[00:00] <_marx_> we have a blank agenda
[00:00] <_marx_> date
[00:00] <_marx_> #startmeeting
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[00:01] <_marx_> [action]for mark, eliminate one of the mootbots
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[00:01] <_marx_> who is here for the meeting?
[00:01] <holstein> lets do it
[00:02] <_marx_> is there a log from last time?
[00:02] <_marx_> i was away i think w/a family oblication
[00:04] <_marx_> local advocacy
[00:06] <_marx_> whatchew been up to holstein
[00:06] <holstein> there should be
[00:07] <holstein> lemme look for it
[00:07] <_marx_> it's blank
[00:07] <holstein> lol
[00:07] <holstein> we did a lot though
[00:07] <holstein> pretty much just internalkernel, akgraner and myself
[00:07] <_marx_> i can report that there are no ads on craigslist for Ubuntu or Linux events
[00:07] <holstein> someone else popped in for a sec
[00:08] <_marx_> well we need to get some spark going
[00:08] <holstein> OH
[00:08] <holstein> we straitened out the FB
[00:08] <holstein> but you know about that
[00:08] <holstein> you're admin on it
[00:08] <_marx_> indeed
[00:08] <_marx_> you too
[00:08] <holstein> OR i tried to make that happen
[00:09] <_marx_> well for now we need to double post
[00:09] <holstein> i cant join the other one
[00:09] <holstein> otherwise
[00:09] <holstein> i would just sent an invite to all of them
[00:09] <_marx_> 80 something on the first FB page
[00:10] <holstein> to the new one
[00:10] <holstein> and let it go
[00:10] <holstein> for all intents and purposes, its dead
[00:10] <_marx_> need to post meetings there too
[00:10] <holstein> IF there is no admin
[00:10] <holstein> _marx_: can you message the other group?
[00:12] <_marx_> i believe i can
[00:13] <holstein> _marx_: you want to try that?
[00:13] <holstein> just so all of those folk are formally invited to the new page
[00:13] <holstein> i think that would be a good use of this meeting
[00:13] <holstein> if we dont get anything else done
[00:13] <holstein> i mean
[00:14] <holstein> we can still double post for a while
[00:14] <holstein> but, something formal would be nice
[00:15]  * _marx_ trying now...
[00:17] <_marx_> a wall post gets sent to all members?
[00:17] <holstein> not sure
[00:18] <holstein> i think it depends on how they are setup
[00:18] <holstein> IF they get a notice or not
[00:19] <holstein> not sure who would know the answer to that...
[00:20] <_marx_> okay FB won't let me paste in the addy of the new group
[00:20] <_marx_> maybe just the name
[00:20] <holstein> _marx_: can you add a link?
[00:20] <holstein> to the message?
[00:20] <_marx_> y
[00:21] <holstein> maybe just drop it there
[00:21] <holstein> use the name in the body
[00:25] <_marx_> done
[00:25] <holstein> COOL
[00:26] <_marx_> that's the second time too so we'll see
[00:26] <holstein> well
[00:26] <holstein> some of those people could be just not active anymore
[00:26] <holstein> most* even
[00:26] <_marx_> true
[00:26] <holstein> OR maybe they do FB once a year like i do
[00:26] <holstein> and when they finally log in, they'll deal with it
[00:27] <holstein> _marx_: i say, if you want to action yourself
[00:27] <holstein> and make it offical
[00:27] <_marx_> so are your uhours going well in a'ville
[00:27] <holstein> that you did that
[00:27] <holstein> _marx_: i only do the LUG
[00:27] <holstein> the WNClug
[00:27] <holstein> i'll probably make a LUG meeing an ubuntu hour
[00:28] <_marx_> k
[00:28] <holstein> again
[00:28] <holstein> at some point
[00:28] <holstein> to try and kick it off
[00:28] <holstein> im not going ot be able to host one
[00:28] <holstein> BUT i would like for someone else in the LUG to take that on
[00:28] <holstein> we'll see
[00:28] <holstein> its coming up on a year since the last one that i did
[00:29] <holstein> SO, i could do another one
[00:29] <_marx_> well a UH can be completely social
[00:29] <holstein> yup
[00:29] <holstein> it would be nice
[00:29] <_marx_> doesn't have to be technical at all
[00:29] <holstein> and there are a handful of ubuntu folk
[00:29] <holstein> that would just hang out i think
[00:29] <_marx_> i think that was the original intent
[00:29] <holstein> but, its still too much for me
[00:30] <holstein> to organize
[00:30] <_marx_> gotcha
[00:30] <holstein> well, maybe
[00:30] <holstein> i guess i could just set up something ongoing
[00:30] <_marx_> coffee joint be there or be square
[00:30] <holstein> something that requires no email blurbs
[00:31] <holstein> i'll think about it
[00:31]  * _marx_ waiting for that one to come back
[00:31] <holstein> eitherway
[00:31] <holstein> i'll do one at the firestorm soon
[00:31] <holstein> next couple months or so
[00:31] <holstein> to try and spur it on
[00:32]  * holstein got a new computer
[00:32] <holstein> new to me that is
[00:32] <_marx_> i don't make the g'boro lug meetings because of budget constraints
[00:32] <holstein> i was giving props to the kernel team
[00:32] <holstein> i installed 10.04
[00:32] <holstein> no wifi
[00:32] <holstein> no hot-keys
[00:32] <holstein> i plugged it in to LAN
[00:32] <holstein> got the latest kernel
[00:32] <holstein> and everything is working
[00:33] <holstein> _marx_: you still host the UH's though right?
[00:33] <holstein> krankies?
[00:33] <_marx_> yes
[00:34] <holstein> how many folk?
[00:34] <_marx_> just be there for a couple of hours
[00:34] <_marx_> 1-3
[00:34] <holstein> nice
[00:34] <_marx_> some mailing list pr would help, maybe FB too
[00:35] <holstein> sure
[00:35] <holstein> then you gotta do it though :/
[00:35] <holstein> maybe we can attomate a reminder somewhere
[00:35] <holstein> automate*
[00:37] <_marx_> i'd really like to start a refurb thing but several problems exist
[00:37] <holstein> refurb?
[00:38] <_marx_> get old boxen, refurb, distribute to needy families
[00:38] <holstein> yeah
[00:38] <holstein> i was thinking about something like that
[00:40] <_marx_> overall though we need some team building; we're not connected across the state as well as we could be
[00:40] <holstein> agreed
[00:41] <_marx_> several names here tonight that i don't recognize
[00:47] <_marx_> well, i'm not a good chearleader
[00:48] <_marx_> i'm more the construction type
[00:48] <_marx_> typically some cussin' and name callin'
[00:49] <_marx_> not the best motivational techniques for this sort of group
[00:49] <_marx_> well...
[00:50] <_marx_> maybe a good cussin' is in order?
[00:51] <_marx_> holstein: closing now
[00:51] <_marx_> anything to add
[00:53] <_marx_> on the meeting record
[00:53] <_marx_> I've been here for some time now.
[00:54] <holstein> _marx_: i say close it
[00:54] <holstein> sorry
[00:54] <holstein> i had a call
[00:54] <_marx_> This teams spark cannot rely on one person.
[00:54] <holstein> _marx_: we did last time discuss..
[00:54] <holstein> trying to get something going on
[00:54] <holstein> across the region
[00:55] <holstein> maybe an event in the middle of the state somewheres
[00:55] <holstein> we can try and drum up more folks for the meetings though
[00:55] <holstein> and get more input on that for later
[00:55] <_marx_> We need to find some more ambers.
[00:55] <holstein> hehe
[00:55] <holstein> yup
[00:56] <_marx_> #endmeeting
[00:56] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 00:56.
[00:56] <holstein> akgraner is quite a personality :)
[00:56] <_marx_> ah 4 minutes early
[00:56] <holstein> nah
[00:56] <holstein> they dont have to be an hour :)
[00:57] <_marx_> well, so i'm anal ;)
[00:57] <holstein> hehe
[00:57] <holstein> i have an annoying hot-corner on my new touchpad
[00:57] <holstein> pastes in some unwanted text
[00:58] <holstein> from time to time
[00:58] <holstein>  asheville  asheville  asheville
[00:58] <holstein> strange
[00:58] <_marx_> had to be at work today at 8:30, got there at 8:29
[00:58] <holstein> i dont even remember putting  asheville  in my clipboard
[00:58] <holstein> _marx_: lol
[00:58] <holstein> me too
[00:58] <holstein> i didnt notice when i got there though
[00:58] <holstein> not really work anyways
[00:59] <holstein> volunteer computer classes
[00:59] <holstein> at my moms church
[00:59] <holstein> volunteer for now
[00:59] <holstein> anyways
[00:59] <_marx_> winders or ...
[00:59] <holstein> well, they have win7
[00:59] <holstein> but, i have a server running in vitualbox
[00:59] <_marx_> ah, 2 bad
[01:00] <holstein> on my EEE
[01:00] <holstein> and they use putty to get into a screen session
[01:00] <holstein> whenever possible
[01:00] <holstein> im working on rolling up some custom live iso's for the machines
[01:01] <holstein> tricky wifi, and audio hardware
[01:01] <_marx_> broadcom wifi?
[01:01] <holstein> i think so
[01:01] <holstein> not too tricky
[01:01] <holstein> i have the lspci output somewhere
[01:02] <_marx_> so you think this is a bad meeting time?
[01:02] <_marx_> or just no interest
[01:02] <holstein> good question
[01:02] <_marx_> bugjam or something
[01:02] <holstein> but im afraid its the latter
[01:03] <_marx_> raleigh is heavy w/redhat
[01:03] <_marx_> me too
[01:03] <holstein> seemed like we had momentum there for a minute
[01:03] <holstein> before the official blessing
[01:03] <holstein> i think a few of us were really carrying the weight
[01:03] <_marx_> well back to core members in each area
[01:04] <holstein> and got busy with other stuff
[01:04] <holstein> and rightly so
[01:04] <holstein> i shouldnt say 'us'
[01:04] <holstein> really you and akgraner
[01:04] <_marx_> no you and internalkernel bugeyed too on uh
[01:05] <_marx_> there have been sooo many here on irc
[01:07] <holstein> sure
[01:07] <holstein> but i think you and akgraner really made the approval happen
[01:08] <_marx_> who's next on the chair list? not sure that's working at all
[01:08]  * _marx_ goes for a nic fix
[01:10] <holstein> i quit
[01:10] <holstein> at the end of nov :)
[01:11] <holstein> dinner time..
[01:19] <_marx_> corn bread, pinto beans, some fried ham, and some fried cabbage
[01:24] <_marx_> ah booths at seasonal events across the state!
[01:24] <_marx_> lexington bbq fest booth
[01:24] <_marx_> mt. airy stuff, booth
[01:24] <_marx_> cost of booth
[01:27] <_marx_> ah man
[15:08] <holstein> _marx_: i just had a thought
[15:08] <holstein> i drive my grandmother around twice a week
[15:08] <holstein> on thursdays
[15:09] <holstein> i drop her off at 9ish
[15:09] <holstein> and i come to the local earth-fare for breaky
[15:10] <holstein> i could totally try and promote an ubuntu hour then
[15:10] <holstein> not very 'buisness professional' friendly
[15:10] <holstein> as far as the time
[15:10] <holstein> but, its something i can just add into my routine
[15:10] <holstein> theres a guy from the LUG here now, so we are kind of having one anyways
[16:05] <Daniel0108> hi :)
[16:06] <Daniel0108> holstein, are you here?
[16:40] <holstein> hey Daniel0108
[16:40] <Daniel0108> hi holstein
[16:40] <Daniel0108> :P
[16:40] <holstein> im around
[16:40] <Daniel0108> where is your friend?
[16:40] <holstein> for a bit
[16:40] <holstein> here and there
[16:41] <holstein> internalkernel is who i was thinking of
[16:41] <Daniel0108> I still need help with DNS ;)
[16:41] <holstein> IF he's around
[16:41] <internalkernel> huh?
[16:41] <holstein> we were going to point a domain for our LUG
[16:41] <internalkernel> :D
[16:41] <holstein> and he was the go-to guy :)
[16:41] <holstein> internalkernel: hey
[16:41] <holstein> im getting you in trouble :)
[16:41] <internalkernel> lol... Im used to it...
[16:42] <holstein> Daniel0108: , meet daniel
[16:42] <Daniel0108> hi internalkernel ;)
[16:42] <internalkernel> hiya...
[16:42] <internalkernel> hey holstein, going to miss Sat I've gotta go to SF...
[16:43] <Daniel0108> http://pastebin.com/iEaa6Npt
[16:43] <holstein> internalkernel: not worries
[16:43] <Daniel0108> there is my problem :P
[16:43] <internalkernel> AND iwas thinking future LUGs - we should get Jfo to talk about VCS like Bazaar or Git...
[16:43] <Daniel0108> I just copied the irc log ;)
[16:43] <Daniel0108> I hope you can help me :D
[16:43] <internalkernel> he comes to mind since he works with the kernel team...
[16:43] <internalkernel> Yes... what's the issue Daniel0108
[16:44] <Daniel0108> internalkernel: http://pastebin.com/iEaa6Npt
[16:44] <Daniel0108> here is the issue :P
[16:45] <internalkernel> so.. you want any requests to domain.at to forward to domain.com
[16:46] <internalkernel> so. for instance like if you go to ubuntunc.com right now... it should just immediately forward you to ubuntu.com
[16:46] <internalkernel> or rather our team wiki page I believe...
[16:46] <internalkernel> I forgot which... lol...
[16:47] <internalkernel> Create a virtual host file for the domain.at - all you'll need is the ServerName and this line:
[16:48] <internalkernel> Redirect permanent / http://www.domain.com/
[16:48] <internalkernel> then: apache2ctr restart
[16:48] <internalkernel> and all requests to domain.at will end up at domain.com
[16:56] <Daniel0108> internalkernel: I have a DomainOnly host
[16:56] <Daniel0108> I can't create files or restart apache
[16:56] <holstein> Daniel0108: they give you access to something though
[16:56] <holstein> they have to
[16:56] <Daniel0108> yes
[16:56] <internalkernel> ahhh, what kind of access do they give you to setup a redirect?
[16:56] <Daniel0108> I can only setup DNS
[16:56] <holstein> OR you should take it to another host
[16:56] <Daniel0108> but I can do what I want with DNS :P
[16:57] <Daniel0108> yes, but the problem is that I've already paid for it, lol
[16:57] <internalkernel> Do you have a Plesk panel or some other type of domain control?
[16:57] <Daniel0108> only DNS control, lol
[16:57] <Daniel0108> :PP
[16:57] <Daniel0108> I can just add/edit/remove dns records
[16:57] <holstein> maybe you should call them
[16:58] <holstein> and ask them just how they propose the domain to be administered
[16:58] <internalkernel> What you want to setup is a Redirect, I don't think theres a way to do that through the DNS records though - it's something Apache or the web server will have to handle...
[16:58] <Daniel0108> holstein, I have to pay for forwarding... and I don't want to pay again
[16:58] <internalkernel> since that machine probably has hundreds of domain names pointed to an IP - the web server makes the distinction between which requests go where
[16:59] <Daniel0108> there is no way to point to a domain instead of a ip?
[16:59] <Daniel0108> for ips I have MX record
[16:59] <Daniel0108> *A record
[16:59] <internalkernel> Maybe through the CNAME function
[16:59] <internalkernel> A records require IPs
[17:00] <Daniel0108> okay
[17:00] <Daniel0108> I'll try CNAME
[17:00] <internalkernel> CNAME record - Canonical Name might let you map the Domain name to an IP - but when the request hits the webserver it's still going to be domain.at
[17:00] <internalkernel> and the webserver is going to go... Not here...
[17:01] <internalkernel> I dont think there's not a way to trick the web server into thinking that a result for domain.at means domain.com
[17:01] <Daniel0108> ahh... that's unfair....
[17:01] <internalkernel> but hey if you find one, let me know...
[17:01] <internalkernel> because that would be useful... the only way I know of is redirect through apache
[17:02] <Daniel0108> I have to pay like $80 for redirecting -.-
[17:02] <Daniel0108> but the domain was cheap -.-
[17:02] <holstein> per year?
[17:02] <internalkernel> holy crap...
[17:02] <Daniel0108> yes
[17:02] <Daniel0108> per year
[17:02] <internalkernel> who are you using?
[17:02] <holstein> probably should read the fine print though
[17:02] <Daniel0108> it's a good provider, but not for domain only :P
[17:02] <holstein> 'restrictions apply' ;)
[17:02] <Daniel0108> ah, doesn't matter :P
[17:03] <Daniel0108> I'll just cancel the domain :P
[17:03] <holstein> i dont know, forwarding is a feature that i would expect in a domain registrar
[17:03] <Daniel0108> the .com works perfect
[17:03] <Daniel0108> and it's cheap
[17:03] <holstein> included
[17:03] <holstein> in whatever cost
[17:03] <internalkernel> or even a nominal fee for redirecting...
[17:03] <holstein> yeah
[17:03] <Daniel0108> high-speed webspace + domain for like 25$ per year ;)
[17:03] <holstein> thats a 'bait-n-switch' almost
[17:03] <Daniel0108> 10GB, no traffic
[17:04] <Daniel0108> holstein, yeah...
[17:06] <Daniel0108> okay, I'll leave this channel now :P bye
[23:03] <_marx_> holstein: i think your UH idea fits the description; time is early but what the...
[23:03] <_marx_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[23:04] <_marx_> pr it a bit and who knows who might show up