[01:12] <cyberanger> Juzzy: I do, when I can
[01:12] <cyberanger> how many machines
[01:12] <cyberanger> and do you need the hardware, or other means
[01:55] <orangeninja> cyber you here?
[02:55] <cyberanger> orangeninja: yes
[02:56] <cyberanger> if you use my full nick too, I'll get here quicker ;-)
[02:56] <cyberanger> it'd highlight me and buzz me
[02:56] <cyberanger> when I'm on
[02:57] <cyberanger> what's up
[03:07] <orangeninja> Sorry I should have used your full name
[03:07] <orangeninja> how do you do that where you show my name before your entry?
[03:09] <cyberanger> orangeni hit tab
[03:09] <cyberanger> orangeninja:
[03:09] <chris4585> type o and hit tab
[03:09] <cyberanger> and then it completes
[03:09] <chris4585> or type c and hit tab multiple times
[03:10] <cyberanger> chris4585: bad idea for just one letter since we have mutiple nicks
[03:10] <cyberanger> yeah, mutiple times works
[03:10] <chris4585> cyberanger, well I usually type 2 letters but no need to type out half the word itself
[03:11] <chris4585> depends, you I do cy, chibihogoshino I do chi, etc..
[03:11] <cyberanger> true, just a narrow example ;-)
[03:11] <cyberanger> meeting tommorow
[03:11] <cyberanger> btw
[03:11] <chris4585> I may attend!
[03:11] <chibihogoshino> u
[03:11] <chibihogoshino> uh
[03:11] <chibihogoshino> what
[03:11] <chris4585> my life has been boredom since I graduated HS
[03:11] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, we're explaining tab completion
[03:11] <chibihogoshino> oh
[03:13] <orangeninja> cyberanger: thanks
[03:14] <cyberanger> thank chris4585 , he did it even better, quicker
[03:14] <orangeninja> cyberanger: Another thing I was thinking about, what was that command you gave me to clean the old kernal out of grub?
[03:14] <cyberanger> was that what you needed
[03:14] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get autoremove, should have been it
[03:14] <chris4585> cyberanger, also we may be getting cable down our road in about a month :D
[03:15] <orangeninja> yep that's the one I think
[03:15] <cyberanger> chris4585: sweet
[03:15] <chris4585> cyberanger, I'm trying to not get my hopes up though
[03:16] <cyberanger> orangeninja: removes the older kernels, which is more than minimum of what you asked
[03:16] <cyberanger> but it pulls the entries out too
[03:17] <orangeninja> that's all i need to input or sudo apt-get uptate autoremove
[03:18] <chris4585> just autoremove
[03:19] <orangeninja> chris4585: this is all I got after I did it : orangeninja@orange-crush:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:19] <orangeninja> [sudo] password for orangeninja:
[03:19] <orangeninja> Reading package lists... Done
[03:19] <orangeninja> Building dependency tree
[03:19] <orangeninja> Reading state information... Done
[03:19] <orangeninja> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:19] <orangeninja> orangeninja@orange-crush:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:20] <chris4585> you shouldn't have any older kernels then?
[03:20] <chris4585> when you do that command it will remove older kernels
[03:20] <chris4585> if nothing happens then there are no older kernels
[03:20] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:21] <cyberanger> covers it all
[03:21] <cyberanger> upgrades too
[03:21] <orangeninja> ha, ha I guess I'll know next time I restart. I had about 5 or 6 tonight when I started though
 Juzzy: I do, when I can
 how many machines
 and do you need the hardware, or other means
[05:15] <Juzzy> 5-10 or so
[05:15] <Juzzy> Not picky at this point
[05:15] <cyberanger> and you need the hardware, or have it?
[05:16] <Juzzy> need it for our school
[05:18] <cyberanger> understand that, just haven't had any computers in awhile (now that I know to lookout for them, just a matter of how fast)
[05:19] <Juzzy> well we don't have room until next school year
[05:19] <cyberanger> shame BAT is no more, closer to you, and might have been willing to help
[05:19] <Juzzy> ah
[05:19] <cyberanger> so there's time
[05:19] <Juzzy> yea
[05:19] <Juzzy> we're a 501c3, so we can do donation tax writeoff letters
[05:19] <cyberanger> I'll put that on our agenda too
[05:20] <Juzzy> but dont sweat too much I'll prolly find something around here
[05:20] <cyberanger> same as my school I graduated from, that's easy enough to work with
[05:20] <cyberanger> with that timeline, you've barely started this sesmester ;-)
[05:20] <cyberanger> can't sweat yet
[05:21] <Juzzy> yea would be nice to secure something tho
[05:21] <Juzzy> one more thing off my plate
[05:21] <Juzzy> im the chairman of the board
[05:21] <Juzzy> well i'm off to bed
[05:21] <Juzzy> I'll tty tomorrow
[05:22] <Juzzy> or later
[05:22] <Juzzy> :>
[05:23] <cyberanger> Juzzy: what school?
[15:35] <Juzzy> Lewisburg Christian Academy
[16:17] <vychune> hello?
[16:19] <cyberanger> hey vychune
[16:19] <vychune> morning
[16:19] <vychune> whats on tap for the meet?
[16:19] <cyberanger> renewing our domain name
[16:20] <cyberanger> memphis should be sharing with us how their meeting went
[16:20] <cyberanger> hopefully more
[16:20] <cyberanger> but that's what I'm sure of now
[16:20] <wrst> cyberanger: i may or may not be there tonight, but if you need some financial help on the domain name let me know
[16:21] <cyberanger> wrst: sure will
[16:22] <vychune> what about using ubuntutn?
[16:26] <cyberanger> vychune: what do you mean?
[16:26] <vychune> how about using ubuntutn.com or .org?
[16:26] <cyberanger> we already have www.ubuntu-tennessee.org which is consistant with how other teams named theirs
[16:27] <cyberanger> this is just a renewal
[16:27] <vychune> oh ok
[16:29] <cyberanger> as far as what our loco will maintain, figure holding what we have it the best atm
[16:33] <vychune> cool
[17:15] <vychune> wb
[17:43] <nairanvac> Hey, guys.  I'm having an issue with installing from a flash drive
[17:51] <wrst> well crud i could have helped nairanvac... come back :)
[18:19] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: awesome facebook photobar thing
[18:44] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: some progress today on swissknife-router
[18:45] <cyberanger> gotta run, but I'll fill you in on it later
[19:54] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: it might be a breakthrough on the mesh issue too
[19:54] <cyberanger> which is annoyingly a key requirement
[19:55] <cyberanger> it's worth getting it, just the non technical issues
[20:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: natty alpha 2 is out today
[20:11] <wrst> cool pace_t_zulu i will upgrade when i get home... or actually might just reinstall
[20:11] <pace_t_zulu> i'm going to do a fresh install for sure
[20:11] <wrst> actually probably will reinstall i have some wireless issues and see if that is solved
[20:12] <cyberanger> wrst: I'd try both
[20:13] <cyberanger> first the upgrade
[20:13] <cyberanger> for curousity sake
[20:13] <wrst> cyberanger: i've been keeping the system upgraded but that's never fixed the wireless issue
[20:13] <wrst> but last upgraded, day before yesterday
[20:13] <cyberanger> what is the issue, exactly?
[20:14]  * cyberanger needs to update his install from a month ago
[20:14] <wrst> cyberanger:  when i pull in the wireless driver using jockey, the broadcom sta driver it doesn't work, says available but not activated
[20:14] <wrst> so thought i would go the firmware cutter method, but that didn't work completely i have to load the module every time
[20:14] <cyberanger> wrst: hrm, do you know what your card is
[20:15] <wrst> i shoul have just put it in the well werever the modules are loaded but just didn't do that
[20:15] <cyberanger> and the broadcom chip it uses
[20:15] <wrst> broadcom 4312
[20:15] <wrst> cyberanger: i think some configs got messed up i just hadn't worried much about it since i knew a reinstall would be the ultimate on this anyway
[20:15] <cyberanger> I'll look into it in a bit
[20:16] <cyberanger> yes, aside from any other detail
[20:16] <wrst> and some of the auto configs of the firmware cutter packages was not working either so just alpha being alpha
[20:16] <cyberanger> such as the drive jockey's pulling being DOA
[20:16] <wrst> cyberanger: where/what does ubuntu use for the modules at start up?
[20:17] <cyberanger> dang, battery here
[20:17] <cyberanger> I'll answer that in a bit
[20:17] <cyberanger> need to hold back some juice so this works as a phone still, not a brick
[20:18] <wrst> ha ha ok cyberanger on know in arch its /etc/rc.conf
[20:39] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: installing in a VM now
[20:41] <wrst> cool pace_t_zulu i have it downloading on my server at home
[21:11] <pace_t_zulu> wow ... alpha 2 is not so good in a VM
[21:12] <pace_t_zulu> and by not so good i mean really poor
[21:14] <pace_t_zulu> i thought my alpha 1 install had just deteriorated with all the changes that have been going on... but a fresh alpha 2 install is just as bad
[21:35] <wrst> that's not good pace_t_zulu
[21:35] <wrst> i will see on bare metal, its been good for me there
[21:52] <cyberanger> wrst: what was the question?
[21:53] <wrst> i had a question? cyberanger? :)
[21:54] <cyberanger> yes, now you have three, and I answered two ;-)
[21:54]  * wrst is now more confused than ever
[21:54] <cyberanger> kernel modules related
[21:54] <cyberanger> If I recall
[21:54] <wrst> oh where is the config file in ubuntu for the startup modules
[21:55] <wrst> in arch its /etc/rc.conf  i use that all the time there, but thankfully in ubuntu i have never needed it :)
[21:56]  * wrst should have just googled it but asking cyberanger was easier today since he brought it up
[22:01] <cyberanger> wrst: I brought it up
[22:01] <cyberanger> and in ubuntu if I recall, same place
[22:01] <wrst> i thought so because i was just going to reinstall natty and not worry with my wireless module not loading :)
[22:02] <cyberanger> depends if they adjusted from debian, don't think they did
[22:03] <wrst> yeah i will just reinstall :D
[22:12] <cyberanger> if reinstall = suceess; then echo woohoo
[22:12] <cyberanger> else echo whoowhoo > /dev/null
[22:12] <cyberanger> fi
[23:44]  * wrst goes off to install alpha 2!