| grkblood | whats a forum that i can goto that has some good deals on used audio equpiment? | 01:04 |
|---|---|---|
| grkblood | im looking for a mackie onyx 1220i | 01:04 |
| holstein | grkblood: hmmm | 01:04 |
| grkblood | time to go firewire | 01:04 |
| holstein | let me think abou that | 01:04 |
| holstein | BUT i would ask in #opensourcemusicians | 01:05 |
| grkblood | k | 01:05 |
| holstein | i tend to check craigslist | 01:05 |
| grkblood | craigslist sucks | 01:05 |
| rlameiro | grkblood: is it linux supported? | 01:05 |
| holstein | if you're in US | 01:05 |
| grkblood | i jsut put one of my mixers on there | 01:05 |
| holstein | yeah, good point | 01:05 |
| holstein | check the FFADO and alsa pages | 01:05 |
| grkblood | rlameiro, it should be. studio supports firewire | 01:05 |
| holstein | grkblood: lol | 01:05 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio? | 01:05 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio provides the FFADO packages | 01:05 |
| grkblood | yea, it comes packaged with progs that support firewire | 01:06 |
| holstein | and ffado supports what the can | 01:06 |
| grkblood | FFADO? | 01:06 |
| holstein | dont assume anything is suppoorted | 01:06 |
| rlameiro | FFADO its a driver for Firewiredevices | 01:06 |
| holstein | http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list | 01:06 |
| rlameiro | http://ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list | 01:06 |
| rlameiro | lol | 01:06 |
| holstein | amazing team of folks too | 01:06 |
| holstein | great work | 01:06 |
| grkblood | damn, multimix isnt even supported? | 01:07 |
| rlameiro | mackie isnt very friend to linux.... | 01:07 |
| rlameiro | or opensource | 01:07 |
| holstein | yup | 01:07 |
| grkblood | i know its supports on the mac | 01:07 |
| grkblood | i thought multimix 8 was the goto firewire mixer for budget setups | 01:08 |
| holstein | they provide drivers for apple | 01:08 |
| holstein | yes | 01:08 |
| grkblood | thats crazy its not supported | 01:08 |
| holstein | grkblood: ask makie | 01:08 |
| holstein | mackie* | 01:08 |
| grkblood | is there a difference in being supported and working? | 01:08 |
| holstein | they really should | 01:08 |
| grkblood | isnt* | 01:08 |
| holstein | i can say the presonus firepod works well | 01:09 |
| holstein | rlameiro has a firewire interface?? | 01:09 |
| holstein | i forget?? | 01:09 |
| rlameiro | yes | 01:09 |
| rlameiro | FA101 | 01:09 |
| holstein | the focurite saphire pro40 is pretty sweet | 01:09 |
| rlameiro | Edirol | 01:09 |
| holstein | needs some tweaking | 01:09 |
| holstein | dinner time.. | 01:11 |
| grkblood | apparently mackie does have support for linux on other devices | 01:12 |
| holstein | i read that | 01:12 |
| holstein | one device i think? | 01:13 |
| holstein | i wouldnt trust it though | 01:13 |
| holstein | necessarily | 01:13 |
| holstein | i havent actually talked to a makie/linux user | 01:13 |
| holstein | a happy one anyways* | 01:13 |
| grkblood | so whats a good firewire mixer for linux? | 01:14 |
| rlameiro | maybe usb devices | 01:14 |
| holstein | not sure what you mean by mixer | 01:14 |
| rlameiro | firewire is different stuff | 01:14 |
| holstein | but, the firepod is great | 01:15 |
| rlameiro | they even have problems with windows 7 drivers and stuff | 01:15 |
| holstein | and the ediro FA101 | 01:15 |
| rlameiro | lol | 01:15 |
| holstein | you dont really need a *mixer | 01:15 |
| holstein | to mix down to stereo | 01:15 |
| holstein | and record | 01:15 |
| grkblood | i dont want usb | 01:15 |
| grkblood | usb isnt an option | 01:15 |
| holstein | grkblood: depends | 01:15 |
| grkblood | i want individual tracks | 01:15 |
| holstein | OK | 01:16 |
| grkblood | usb only give one main out | 01:16 |
| holstein | so, you need a multichannel interface | 01:16 |
| grkblood | well, im of the opinion that thats what firewire provides | 01:16 |
| holstein | depends | 01:16 |
| grkblood | multiple channels over one cable | 01:16 |
| holstein | firewire is just a cable | 01:16 |
| holstein | an interface | 01:17 |
| holstein | IF the interface is a camera | 01:17 |
| holstein | thats what you get | 01:17 |
| holstein | in this case, you need a multichannel interface | 01:17 |
| grkblood | so youre saying there are firewire mixers out there that dont support mutlichannel? | 01:17 |
| holstein | and there are both USB and firewire options | 01:17 |
| holstein | grkblood: lets talk about the term mixer | 01:18 |
| holstein | mixer implies that multiple channels are being mixed down | 01:18 |
| grkblood | mixer with firewire interface | 01:18 |
| holstein | down to stereo for example | 01:18 |
| holstein | SO | 01:18 |
| holstein | you could have an external mixer | 01:18 |
| holstein | mix things down to 2 tracks | 01:18 |
| holstein | and use your internal sound card | 01:18 |
| holstein | THAT where a mixer would be used | 01:18 |
| holstein | and the mixer could be anolog or digital | 01:18 |
| holstein | and connect to any stereo (2 channel) sound card | 01:19 |
| holstein | in your scenario | 01:19 |
| holstein | you need more that 2 in's | 01:19 |
| holstein | the mulitchannel interface that i have | 01:19 |
| holstein | the presonus firepod | 01:19 |
| holstein | has 8 mic pre's in | 01:19 |
| holstein | 10 channels in and out | 01:19 |
| grkblood | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUQ63dGdPvQ&feature=related | 01:19 |
| holstein | and the edirol has that too AFAIK | 01:20 |
| grkblood | in that vid there using firewire to output the mixer to a mac with garageband that recognizes all the mixers channels | 01:20 |
| holstein | depends on how its set up | 01:21 |
| holstein | there are a couple ways to acheive that | 01:21 |
| holstein | BUT | 01:21 |
| rlameiro | fa101 is a pretty basic setup | 01:21 |
| holstein | you dont need a mixer | 01:21 |
| rlameiro | is just an interface | 01:21 |
| holstein | you need tracks | 01:21 |
| holstein | channels | 01:21 |
| rlameiro | it only can mix monitor channels | 01:21 |
| holstein | no need to mix prior to tracking | 01:21 |
| holstein | in a studio | 01:21 |
| rlameiro | grkblood: how many out channels do you need? | 01:21 |
| holstein | you mix for optimal sound | 01:22 |
| holstein | while recording | 01:22 |
| grkblood | 3 | 01:22 |
| rlameiro | there are usb devices with 4 out IIRC | 01:22 |
| holstein | SO a 4 channel USB interface would work great for you | 01:22 |
| grkblood | got a link to a good one or a suggestion? | 01:23 |
| holstein | check the firepod too | 01:23 |
| holstein | you can get a used one for a resonable price | 01:23 |
| holstein | under $300 | 01:24 |
| holstein | rlameiro: how is the fast-track? | 01:24 |
| holstein | thats plug and play right? | 01:24 |
| holstein | with preamp? | 01:24 |
| rlameiro | http://www.linuxstudiopro.com | 01:24 |
| grkblood | its not 3 main outs though, i got three things going into my mixer with one mian out | 01:24 |
| holstein | 2 preamps | 01:24 |
| grkblood | using two auxs | 01:24 |
| holstein | grkblood: 3 things that you want to go into the computer | 01:24 |
| holstein | not the mixer | 01:24 |
| holstein | you dont need a mixer* ;) | 01:24 |
| holstein | grkblood: how many preamps do you need? | 01:25 |
| grkblood | one | 01:25 |
| rlameiro | you just need to record the tracks and then use the mixer inside the computer | 01:25 |
| rlameiro | like ardour mixer | 01:25 |
| grkblood | i got a weird setup, its not typical | 01:25 |
| grkblood | its for a radio show | 01:25 |
| grkblood | with a two pc setup | 01:25 |
| holstein | i finally got down to 1 computer :) | 01:26 |
| grkblood | yea, i cant do that | 01:26 |
| holstein | well, you *can | 01:27 |
| holstein | but, you dont have to | 01:27 |
| holstein | took me a while | 01:27 |
| grkblood | no, i really cant. i need a seperate pc for caller screening | 01:27 |
| holstein | maybe | 01:27 |
| grkblood | like, i said. its weird | 01:28 |
| grkblood | its not really a studio setup | 01:28 |
| holstein | right | 01:28 |
| holstein | its for radio | 01:28 |
| holstein | kinda | 01:28 |
| holstein | BUT keep in mind | 01:28 |
| holstein | radio is where a lot of the pro-studio gear was born | 01:28 |
| holstein | the mics and pres | 01:28 |
| holstein | compressors | 01:28 |
| holstein | not all* | 01:29 |
| grkblood | yea, i dont do any compressing live | 01:29 |
| grkblood | im not on that level | 01:29 |
| holstein | something to think about though | 01:29 |
| grkblood | when i had an actual studio i compressed on course, but then i moved to internet radio | 01:29 |
| holstein | ive got a decent preamp that i can use | 01:30 |
| holstein | to compress on the way in | 01:30 |
| holstein | if i need | 01:30 |
| holstein | only one though | 01:31 |
| holstein | presonus eureka | 01:31 |
| holstein | a lot of bang for the buck | 01:31 |
| holstein | nice EQ | 01:31 |
| grkblood | thats what i had | 01:31 |
| holstein | the eureka? | 01:31 |
| grkblood | yea | 01:31 |
| grkblood | that and an mbox | 01:31 |
| holstein | where is it? | 01:31 |
| grkblood | i sold it liek a year ago | 01:31 |
| holstein | thats perfect for voice | 01:32 |
| holstein | too bad | 01:32 |
| grkblood | well, thats when i had a studio for recording music | 01:32 |
| grkblood | it was necessary then | 01:32 |
| grkblood | alright guys, im out | 01:34 |
| grkblood | later | 01:34 |
| holstein | laterx grkblood :) | 01:35 |
| p-up-i | hi | 21:42 |
| p-up-i | I tried to install rakarrack from sources, but it messed up the presets and doesn't show the midi converter | 21:42 |
| p-up-i | What should I do to make it return to the version that is on the ubuntustudio repositories? | 21:43 |
| rlameiro | p-up-i: have you tried to reinstall it? | 21:43 |
| p-up-i | yes | 21:44 |
| p-up-i | I wondered if there was a .rakarrack folder, but there isn't | 21:44 |
| rlameiro | weird | 21:44 |
| p-up-i | there doesn't seem to be a folder for settings, to just wipe them off | 21:44 |
| rlameiro | i dont use rakarrak | 21:44 |
| p-up-i | you should try it. It has a midi converter | 21:44 |
| rlameiro | did you unistalled the version you compiled from source? | 21:45 |
| p-up-i | that's the thing I'd like to use | 21:45 |
| p-up-i | How do I do that? | 21:45 |
| rlameiro | no idea | 21:45 |
| rlameiro | it depends on how it was build | 21:45 |
| p-up-i | ok | 21:45 |
| rlameiro | go to the folder where you compiled and look if there is some script to unistall or somethin | 21:45 |
| rlameiro | or on the readme | 21:46 |
| rlameiro | dont know | 21:46 |
| p-up-i | ok | 21:47 |
| p-up-i | then I don't know | 21:47 |
| rlameiro | p-up-i: hummm | 21:48 |
| rlameiro | maybe you could delete all files related to rakarrack | 21:49 |
| p-up-i | I deleted something in the /usr/local stuff | 21:49 |
| p-up-i | and it worked | 21:49 |
| rlameiro | well:) | 21:49 |
| p-up-i | renamed a rakarrack folder and it worked worse | 21:49 |
| p-up-i | but it worked | 21:49 |
| p-up-i | STILL the midi converter doesn't work | 21:49 |
| rlameiro | try to reinstall again | 21:49 |
| rlameiro | better, | 21:49 |
| rlameiro | do a completely remove | 21:50 |
| rlameiro | and then install | 21:50 |
| rlameiro | p-up-i: are you using synaptics? | 21:50 |
| p-up-i | yes | 21:50 |
| p-up-i | i did that already | 21:50 |
| p-up-i | thanks rlameiro, but i have to go exactly now | 21:50 |
| rlameiro | after deleting the files? | 21:50 |
| p-up-i | thanks anyway | 21:50 |
| rlameiro | ok | 21:51 |
| p-up-i | bye | 21:51 |
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