[01:04] whats a forum that i can goto that has some good deals on used audio equpiment? [01:04] im looking for a mackie onyx 1220i [01:04] grkblood: hmmm [01:04] time to go firewire [01:04] let me think abou that [01:05] BUT i would ask in #opensourcemusicians [01:05] k [01:05] i tend to check craigslist [01:05] craigslist sucks [01:05] grkblood: is it linux supported? [01:05] if you're in US [01:05] i jsut put one of my mixers on there [01:05] yeah, good point [01:05] check the FFADO and alsa pages [01:05] rlameiro, it should be. studio supports firewire [01:05] grkblood: lol [01:05] ubuntustudio? [01:05] ubuntustudio provides the FFADO packages [01:06] yea, it comes packaged with progs that support firewire [01:06] and ffado supports what the can [01:06] FFADO? [01:06] dont assume anything is suppoorted [01:06] FFADO its a driver for Firewiredevices [01:06] http://www.ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list [01:06] http://ffado.org/?q=devicesupport/list [01:06] lol [01:06] amazing team of folks too [01:06] great work [01:07] damn, multimix isnt even supported? [01:07] mackie isnt very friend to linux.... [01:07] or opensource [01:07] yup [01:07] i know its supports on the mac [01:08] i thought multimix 8 was the goto firewire mixer for budget setups [01:08] they provide drivers for apple [01:08] yes [01:08] thats crazy its not supported [01:08] grkblood: ask makie [01:08] mackie* [01:08] is there a difference in being supported and working? [01:08] they really should [01:08] isnt* [01:09] i can say the presonus firepod works well [01:09] rlameiro has a firewire interface?? [01:09] i forget?? [01:09] yes [01:09] FA101 [01:09] the focurite saphire pro40 is pretty sweet [01:09] Edirol [01:09] needs some tweaking [01:11] dinner time.. [01:12] apparently mackie does have support for linux on other devices [01:12] i read that [01:13] one device i think? [01:13] i wouldnt trust it though [01:13] necessarily [01:13] i havent actually talked to a makie/linux user [01:13] a happy one anyways* [01:14] so whats a good firewire mixer for linux? [01:14] maybe usb devices [01:14] not sure what you mean by mixer [01:14] firewire is different stuff [01:15] but, the firepod is great [01:15] they even have problems with windows 7 drivers and stuff [01:15] and the ediro FA101 [01:15] lol [01:15] you dont really need a *mixer [01:15] to mix down to stereo [01:15] and record [01:15] i dont want usb [01:15] usb isnt an option [01:15] grkblood: depends [01:15] i want individual tracks [01:16] OK [01:16] usb only give one main out [01:16] so, you need a multichannel interface [01:16] well, im of the opinion that thats what firewire provides [01:16] depends [01:16] multiple channels over one cable [01:16] firewire is just a cable [01:17] an interface [01:17] IF the interface is a camera [01:17] thats what you get [01:17] in this case, you need a multichannel interface [01:17] so youre saying there are firewire mixers out there that dont support mutlichannel? [01:17] and there are both USB and firewire options [01:18] grkblood: lets talk about the term mixer [01:18] mixer implies that multiple channels are being mixed down [01:18] mixer with firewire interface [01:18] down to stereo for example [01:18] SO [01:18] you could have an external mixer [01:18] mix things down to 2 tracks [01:18] and use your internal sound card [01:18] THAT where a mixer would be used [01:18] and the mixer could be anolog or digital [01:19] and connect to any stereo (2 channel) sound card [01:19] in your scenario [01:19] you need more that 2 in's [01:19] the mulitchannel interface that i have [01:19] the presonus firepod [01:19] has 8 mic pre's in [01:19] 10 channels in and out [01:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUQ63dGdPvQ&feature=related [01:20] and the edirol has that too AFAIK [01:20] in that vid there using firewire to output the mixer to a mac with garageband that recognizes all the mixers channels [01:21] depends on how its set up [01:21] there are a couple ways to acheive that [01:21] BUT [01:21] fa101 is a pretty basic setup [01:21] you dont need a mixer [01:21] is just an interface [01:21] you need tracks [01:21] channels [01:21] it only can mix monitor channels [01:21] no need to mix prior to tracking [01:21] in a studio [01:21] grkblood: how many out channels do you need? [01:22] you mix for optimal sound [01:22] while recording [01:22] 3 [01:22] there are usb devices with 4 out IIRC [01:22] SO a 4 channel USB interface would work great for you [01:23] got a link to a good one or a suggestion? [01:23] check the firepod too [01:23] you can get a used one for a resonable price [01:24] under $300 [01:24] rlameiro: how is the fast-track? [01:24] thats plug and play right? [01:24] with preamp? [01:24] http://www.linuxstudiopro.com [01:24] its not 3 main outs though, i got three things going into my mixer with one mian out [01:24] 2 preamps [01:24] using two auxs [01:24] grkblood: 3 things that you want to go into the computer [01:24] not the mixer [01:24] you dont need a mixer* ;) [01:25] grkblood: how many preamps do you need? [01:25] one [01:25] you just need to record the tracks and then use the mixer inside the computer [01:25] like ardour mixer [01:25] i got a weird setup, its not typical [01:25] its for a radio show [01:25] with a two pc setup [01:26] i finally got down to 1 computer :) [01:26] yea, i cant do that [01:27] well, you *can [01:27] but, you dont have to [01:27] took me a while [01:27] no, i really cant. i need a seperate pc for caller screening [01:27] maybe [01:28] like, i said. its weird [01:28] its not really a studio setup [01:28] right [01:28] its for radio [01:28] kinda [01:28] BUT keep in mind [01:28] radio is where a lot of the pro-studio gear was born [01:28] the mics and pres [01:28] compressors [01:29] not all* [01:29] yea, i dont do any compressing live [01:29] im not on that level [01:29] something to think about though [01:29] when i had an actual studio i compressed on course, but then i moved to internet radio [01:30] ive got a decent preamp that i can use [01:30] to compress on the way in [01:30] if i need [01:31] only one though [01:31] presonus eureka [01:31] a lot of bang for the buck [01:31] nice EQ [01:31] thats what i had [01:31] the eureka? [01:31] yea [01:31] that and an mbox [01:31] where is it? [01:31] i sold it liek a year ago [01:32] thats perfect for voice [01:32] too bad [01:32] well, thats when i had a studio for recording music [01:32] it was necessary then [01:34] alright guys, im out [01:34] later [01:35] laterx grkblood :) [21:42] hi [21:42] I tried to install rakarrack from sources, but it messed up the presets and doesn't show the midi converter [21:43] What should I do to make it return to the version that is on the ubuntustudio repositories? [21:43] p-up-i: have you tried to reinstall it? [21:44] yes [21:44] I wondered if there was a .rakarrack folder, but there isn't [21:44] weird [21:44] there doesn't seem to be a folder for settings, to just wipe them off [21:44] i dont use rakarrak [21:44] you should try it. It has a midi converter [21:45] did you unistalled the version you compiled from source? [21:45] that's the thing I'd like to use [21:45] How do I do that? [21:45] no idea [21:45] it depends on how it was build [21:45] ok [21:45] go to the folder where you compiled and look if there is some script to unistall or somethin [21:46] or on the readme [21:46] dont know [21:47] ok [21:47] then I don't know [21:48] p-up-i: hummm [21:49] maybe you could delete all files related to rakarrack [21:49] I deleted something in the /usr/local stuff [21:49] and it worked [21:49] well:) [21:49] renamed a rakarrack folder and it worked worse [21:49] but it worked [21:49] STILL the midi converter doesn't work [21:49] try to reinstall again [21:49] better, [21:50] do a completely remove [21:50] and then install [21:50] p-up-i: are you using synaptics? [21:50] yes [21:50] i did that already [21:50] thanks rlameiro, but i have to go exactly now [21:50] after deleting the files? [21:50] thanks anyway [21:51] ok [21:51] bye