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welshmenis any one familiar with backtrack?00:05
bazhangwelshmen, people in backtrack support: #backtrack-linux00:14
welshmenwhen using GParted do i use it at boot or load an OS and run it from there?01:41
xGrindwelshmen; ???01:46
xGrindlive-cd01:47
bazhangwelshmen, you are on backtrack?01:47
welshmenyeah DL'd it and burned it to a disc but won't boot when the Computer starts01:47
welshmenno but that's what i'm tring to install  along with ubuntu and windows 701:48
bazhangwelshmen, and its not supported here; try #backtrack-linux as I suggested01:48
welshmenand they told me for Gparted partitioning that you guys would know more about it01:49
welshmeni don't want to upset anyone   it just won't load01:49
bazhangwelshmen, who is they? if this is backtrack we are talking about then you need to seek their support01:50
welshmeni want to create a partition using Gparted01:51
bazhangthen boot from the gparted livecd and do so01:51
welshmenit won't boot thats what i'm asking      do i need to load an OS or does it boot with the pc01:52
bazhanggparted live cd wont load?01:53
welshmenif ino goes right to a bootmgr01:53
welshmenbypasses the cd01:53
welshmeni've made two  on two different pc's01:54
kuatoARHello ! greetings from Argentina03:29
kuatoARi need help @_@03:29
bazhangwith what kuatoAR03:31
ballIs Xubuntu smaller (in terms of disk requirement) than Gnome Ubuntu?03:33
kuatoARit is an small problem, but I'm new on Xubuntu. Iv'e installed Xubuntu 10.10 and one of my drives is not listed in "places"03:34
kuatoARdo i need to edit fstab ?03:34
ballkuatoAR: what kind of drive is it and what filesystems does it contain?03:34
bazhangkuatoAR, that would be a good idea yes03:35
kuatoARIt is a fat32 hard drive with XP03:35
kuatoARfdisk -l  shows me that it is recognized as /dev/sda os /dev/sd103:36
kuatoARbut i can't access to the drive03:38
kuatoARI can see the drive using Gigolo, but not access to it03:39
kuatoARwell it seems that now i can ! hahah03:40
kuatoARBut how do i add the launcher to places ?03:40
bazhangedit the places menu?03:40
ballI'll be back later.03:41
welshmencan't get VMware to install any ideas, post comes up and says not been able to detect the character encoding???03:44
bazhangwelshmen, why not use vbox?03:45
welshmenis it easier to get installed?03:45
bazhangyes03:46
welshmenvbox03:46
bazhangcorrect03:46
* ball <- downloading Xubuntu 10.10.05:37
randomus1rhi06:24
randomus1rI installed 'xubuntu-desktop', what command do I use to start gui session now?06:25
ballrandomus1r: Have you tried "xfce-session" or just "startx" ?06:28
* ball <- doesn't know06:28
randomus1rcmd not dound ; xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)06:29
randomus1rs/d/f/06:29
ballI don't know then.  Perhaps it depends on something like Xdm.06:34
ballI'm exhausted.06:42
ballGoodnight all.06:42
Sysirandomus1r: i think you should have gdm installed as dependency07:17
Sysiif you don't want to reboot, 'sudo service gdm start'07:18
randomus1rSysi,07:54
randomus1ri'm vncing to ubuntu hardy server edition07:55
randomus1ri have installed xubuntu-desktop there07:55
randomus1ri need to know what to run upon the vnc connection to get the gui07:55
Sysisorry, i've only used vnc with already started session07:56
randomus1rso you probably know its config07:56
Sysihow do you even make that connection before logging in?07:56
randomus1r~/.vnc/xstartup07:56
randomus1rer07:56
randomus1ri run ' vnc4server :2 ' at server07:57
Sysiis that file like ~/.xinitrc?07:57
randomus1rthen i connect using vncviewer from client side07:57
randomus1ri have no ~/.xinitrc07:57
Sysii'm just wondering if it works the same way07:57
Sysiyou could try putting 'startxfce4' there07:58
randomus1r# Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:07:58
randomus1r# unset SESSION_MANAGER07:58
randomus1r# exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc07:58
randomus1ri uncommented those07:58
Sysiso you need to create xinitrc07:59
Sysigoogle propably knows better than me07:59
Sysioh wait, /etc, there might be something already08:00
randomus1rhttp://dpaste.org/7XE9/ is the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file contents08:01
randomus1r/etc is a directory08:01
Sysii know08:02
Sysii noticed it's about system-wine, not in your /home08:03
Sysithat Xinitrc looks quite complicated script but i guss it "just works", you could try uncomenting line launching it08:05
danielsome thing going wrong at update12:07
danielRequires installation of untrusted packages12:08
danielanyone?12:09
knomedaniel, you can try another server12:10
danielknome ? how12:10
knomedaniel, in synaptic, see settings -> repositories12:11
knomedaniel, but you are right, having untrusted packages shouldn't happen12:11
bazhangdaniel, you have some PPA in there? please pastebin your sources.list12:12
danielI still dont see the synaptic but I will as I find12:13
danielbazhang, where is the sources.list found12:16
bazhang /etc/apt/sources.list12:16
danielThere is nothing in that file12:17
daniellil slow here12:19
danielhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/561894/12:21
bazhangdaniel, which repo is untrusted? extras.ubuntu.com ?12:23
danielbazhang, where will it say that?12:25
bazhangdaniel, what is the precise error you get. please pastebin it12:26
danielapparmor apparmor-utils apport apport-gtk aptdaemon bsdutils cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dbus dbus-x11 dpkg evince evince-common fuse-utils gnome-system-tools ifupdown libapparmor-perl libapparmor1 libblkid1 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libdbus-1-3 libevdocument3 libevview3 libfuse2 liblcms1 libparted0debian1 libsmbclient libsql12:27
danielite3-0 libuuid1 libwbclient0 mount parted python-apport python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-problem-report samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient sudo ubuntu-sso-client util-linux uuid-runtime xserver-common xserver-xorg-core is all it gives12:27
bazhangdaniel, pastebin not here12:28
bazhangugh12:28
bazhangdaniel, there's no error there12:28
danielthose shouldnt be extras12:29
danielthat was it12:29
danielRequires installation of untrusted packages12:29
danielThe action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.12:29
Sysippa:s in use?12:33
bazhangdaniel, well you can risk it, or verify the gpg12:33
bazhang!gpgerr | daniel12:33
bazhangubottu, lag12:33
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ubottudaniel: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »12:33
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag12:33
danielwhat is custom??12:34
bazhangdaniel, just try the standard one12:35
knomedaniel, 'sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5' in terminal12:35
danielknome that is already in the trusted sources12:38
bazhangperhaps in sources.list.d then12:41
danielbazhang, that is the file I was saying was empty12:43
bazhangdaniel, sounds like you added some repos that are not showing up in regular sources.list thus the need to check sources.list.d12:45
bazhangdaniel, cd into the directory and see whats in there12:45
danielbazhang, I will do that but this is rather a plain build12:47
bazhangdaniel, so no tweaks, or the like. 100% standard repos and packages?12:47
danielexcept nvidia but pretty plain12:48
danielcd and nothing is there /etc/apt/sources.list.d$12:52
danieldoes the same after re adding the key as mentioned13:00
danielall this is happening from the update prompt or update manager( pop up13:03
danielhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/561917/13:06
danielanyone?13:14
BasHello All13:36
Bascan anyone help me disableing standby ?13:37
vikashaving problems connecting  gprs getting error http://paste.ubuntu.com/561937/ if anybody  can help14:02
SysiBas: like what?14:03
Sysivikas: how / to what are you connecting?14:04
vikasto pc from phone14:04
Sysiwhere did you dig that errormessage, it should be easy with networkmanager14:05
Sysiplug in phone, right click on icon in the panel, manage connections, mobile, add new14:06
BasSysi: my screen goes blank , i disabled the screensaver and the powermanagement, no result14:09
Sysibut it wakes up after that?14:10
Basif i move the mouse14:10
Basor press a key14:10
Basit puzzeling me14:11
Basit=its14:11
Sysiyou're sure you don't have other power managers? it may work after reboot14:12
vinnlcharlie-tca, that the download link for alpha 2 doesn't work yet means it hasn't been released yet, right?14:15
charlie-tcayes, vinnl14:16
vinnlOK14:16
charlie-tcaThey don't let work until we get everything ready14:17
vinnlOK, any ETA?14:17
charlie-tcasometime in the next 12 hours is the best I got14:17
vinnl:S14:17
charlie-tcasorry, normally we try to be there by 18:00 UTC, but testing got held up14:18
vinnlYeah np, worst case the announcement will be there tomorrow14:18
charlie-tcayeah14:18
mhall119what's the target date for alpha 2 releasE?14:46
mhall119oh, nevermind14:46
mhall119just read the scrollback14:46
charlie-tcaXubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 30 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend.18:29
charlie-tcaXubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting. Everyone is invited to attend.19:00
welshmencan someone be kind enough to put a link for backtrack19:17
welshmencan any one help with driver installs?19:23
welshmenis anyone on??19:27
TheSheepno19:27
TheSheepjust us, mice19:28
welshmenblind mice??19:30
TheSheepno, fat mice19:30
welshmenthen i'm in the right place19:30
TheSheepif you ask any non-rhetorical question someone who knows the answer might say it19:30
TheSheep(not that I know what "backtrack" is)19:30
welshmenwell i would hope that people in here could help me with to most of them would be a simple answer19:30
welshmeni can't install drivers in this ver. of linux and as   i follow tut.s  i get errors19:31
welshmenand can't find anything useful about the erroes19:31
TheSheepwhy didn't you just use the system->additional drivers dialog?19:31
TheSheepit's not finding what you need?19:32
welshmenno   i saw it once and now it's gine19:33
welshmenbut it wasn't working it didn't show up in Wcid19:34
TheSheepWcid?19:34
welshmeni saw it in the wicd*19:34
welshmenno thats wrong19:35
welshmenIt showed up in a hardware lookup thruogh the terminal19:36
TheSheepok, anyways, maybe you could just describe what you are trying to do exactly19:36
TheSheepand we can try and point you to the best way to achieve that19:36
welshmenok sounds good19:36
welshmeni'm trying to get my wireless card to be seen and activated, now i got a driver and followed to tut  but i get errors.  it comes down to i don't know how to install driverss19:38
welshmeni'm new to this linux stuff and want to learn just having some problems19:38
TheSheepwhat card is it?19:39
TheSheepbroadcom?19:39
welshmenyes19:39
TheSheepideapad u350 by any chance?19:39
welshmeni've searched and found that this hybrid driver will work19:39
welshmenno HP touchsmart19:39
TheSheepthe hybrid driver from broadcom's website never worked for me19:40
welshmendamn19:40
TheSheepthe driver that is installed by ubuntu automatically works good though19:40
welshmendidn't for me19:40
welshmencould i use a netgear USB device3?19:41
welshmen\would that auto install it's own driver19:41
welshmen?19:41
TheSheepI had some problems with a broadcom card on ideapad recently, the system saw it, but it could never see any network and the power management said it's set to 0db of signal19:42
TheSheepresetting bios to factory settings fixed that19:42
welshmenok19:43
TheSheepdo you even have the "wireless networks" section in network manager?19:43
welshmenbut just help me with one step..... how would you install a driver in general?19:44
TheSheepon xubuntu -- with jockey19:44
welshmenno nothing shows up the wireless card doesn't appear19:44
TheSheepI would avoid any 3rd party drivers19:45
welshmenbut i found a command that show hardware and it was there19:45
welshmenbut not working19:45
TheSheepwelshmen: what happens when you run jockey-gtk?19:45
TheSheepwelshmen: does it find the right driver?19:45
Lord_RahlAnyone know why I can not send files in pidgin on xubuntu? I could in gnome but, xfce the send file option is grey out20:52
Lord_Rahlthis is for gtalk or jabber network20:54
craigbass1976I'm trying to vnc into my xubuntu box from a lubuntu box.  I'm running it on a differnet port though (5950) and am wonering how to connect.  vncviewer 192.168.2.171:5950  gives me "CConn:       connected to host 192.168.2.171 port 5950, main:        End of stream21:19
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charlie-tcaNatty Alpha2 officially released - Please see the notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview22:31
welshmenwhats the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?22:49
welshmenis one more of a beginner OS than the other22:49
charlie-tcahm, Ubuntu uses Gnome desktop environment, Kubuntu uses KDE22:50
charlie-tcaUbuntu is normally recommended for beginners, it is very easy to configure and use22:50
welshmeni know this is just  primarily a ubuntu chat, but i git a crappy problem.  i got a laptop and wanted to put ubuntu on, but the drive had problems with win 7 ( i think it git a virus) and i formatted it with a PS3. Now it gets an error back in the laptop, so i took it out and boot got the same error ,than put the drive back in and now it just blinks like it reading the drive23:21
charlie-tcaActually, stating you know that is not appropriate, then saying it, does not make it appropriate for this channel.23:26
charlie-tcaThis channel is for support of Xubuntu23:26
welshmenso regardless if I had had ubuntu on the computer and had a system failure it still wouldn't be considered support for ubuntu??23:28
charlie-tcaright. Ubuntu support is in #ubuntu. We try to help when we have time, but we do not know as much about Ubuntu as we do about Xubuntu23:29
PlasmastarAnyone here?23:44
charlie-tca!anyone23:46
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?23:46
pylixis xfce 4.8 distributed with the xubuntu 10.10 live cd?23:51
charlie-tcapylix: no, it is only on the natty cd's23:51
charlie-tcaNatty is the latest development version23:52
pylixso it's like in beta23:52
charlie-tcayes, actually alpha at this time23:53
charlie-tcaWe don't even get to beta until the end of March23:53
pylixcan i have a link please23:54
pylixis it the 11.04 alpha 1?23:55
charlie-tcano, alpha2. We just released alpha2 today23:55
charlie-tcaPlease see the notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview23:55
charlie-tcaalpha1 has more updates now then the whole image size, I would guess.23:56
pylixwhere would i report encountered bugs?23:57
charlie-tcalaunchpad23:57
charlie-tca!bugs23:57
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pylixkay.23:58

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