[00:05] is any one familiar with backtrack? [00:14] welshmen, people in backtrack support: #backtrack-linux [01:41] when using GParted do i use it at boot or load an OS and run it from there? [01:46] welshmen; ??? [01:47] live-cd [01:47] welshmen, you are on backtrack? [01:47] yeah DL'd it and burned it to a disc but won't boot when the Computer starts [01:48] no but that's what i'm tring to install along with ubuntu and windows 7 [01:48] welshmen, and its not supported here; try #backtrack-linux as I suggested [01:49] and they told me for Gparted partitioning that you guys would know more about it [01:49] i don't want to upset anyone it just won't load [01:50] welshmen, who is they? if this is backtrack we are talking about then you need to seek their support [01:51] i want to create a partition using Gparted [01:51] then boot from the gparted livecd and do so [01:52] it won't boot thats what i'm asking do i need to load an OS or does it boot with the pc [01:53] gparted live cd wont load? [01:53] if ino goes right to a bootmgr [01:53] bypasses the cd [01:54] i've made two on two different pc's [03:29] Hello ! greetings from Argentina [03:29] i need help @_@ [03:31] with what kuatoAR [03:33] Is Xubuntu smaller (in terms of disk requirement) than Gnome Ubuntu? [03:34] it is an small problem, but I'm new on Xubuntu. Iv'e installed Xubuntu 10.10 and one of my drives is not listed in "places" [03:34] do i need to edit fstab ? [03:34] kuatoAR: what kind of drive is it and what filesystems does it contain? [03:35] kuatoAR, that would be a good idea yes [03:35] It is a fat32 hard drive with XP [03:36] fdisk -l shows me that it is recognized as /dev/sda os /dev/sd1 [03:38] but i can't access to the drive [03:39] I can see the drive using Gigolo, but not access to it [03:40] well it seems that now i can ! hahah [03:40] But how do i add the launcher to places ? [03:40] edit the places menu? [03:41] I'll be back later. [03:44] can't get VMware to install any ideas, post comes up and says not been able to detect the character encoding??? [03:45] welshmen, why not use vbox? [03:45] is it easier to get installed? [03:46] yes [03:46] vbox [03:46] correct [05:37] * ball <- downloading Xubuntu 10.10. [06:24] hi [06:25] I installed 'xubuntu-desktop', what command do I use to start gui session now? [06:28] randomus1r: Have you tried "xfce-session" or just "startx" ? [06:28] * ball <- doesn't know [06:29] cmd not dound ; xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory) [06:29] s/d/f/ [06:34] I don't know then. Perhaps it depends on something like Xdm. [06:42] I'm exhausted. [06:42] Goodnight all. [07:17] randomus1r: i think you should have gdm installed as dependency [07:18] if you don't want to reboot, 'sudo service gdm start' [07:54] Sysi, [07:55] i'm vncing to ubuntu hardy server edition [07:55] i have installed xubuntu-desktop there [07:55] i need to know what to run upon the vnc connection to get the gui [07:56] sorry, i've only used vnc with already started session [07:56] so you probably know its config [07:56] how do you even make that connection before logging in? [07:56] ~/.vnc/xstartup [07:56] er [07:57] i run ' vnc4server :2 ' at server [07:57] is that file like ~/.xinitrc? [07:57] then i connect using vncviewer from client side [07:57] i have no ~/.xinitrc [07:57] i'm just wondering if it works the same way [07:58] you could try putting 'startxfce4' there [07:58] # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: [07:58] # unset SESSION_MANAGER [07:58] # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [07:58] i uncommented those [07:59] so you need to create xinitrc [07:59] google propably knows better than me [08:00] oh wait, /etc, there might be something already [08:01] http://dpaste.org/7XE9/ is the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file contents [08:01] /etc is a directory [08:02] i know [08:03] i noticed it's about system-wine, not in your /home [08:05] that Xinitrc looks quite complicated script but i guss it "just works", you could try uncomenting line launching it [12:07] some thing going wrong at update [12:08] Requires installation of untrusted packages [12:09] anyone? [12:10] daniel, you can try another server [12:10] knome ? how [12:11] daniel, in synaptic, see settings -> repositories [12:11] daniel, but you are right, having untrusted packages shouldn't happen [12:12] daniel, you have some PPA in there? please pastebin your sources.list [12:13] I still dont see the synaptic but I will as I find [12:16] bazhang, where is the sources.list found [12:16] /etc/apt/sources.list [12:17] There is nothing in that file [12:19] lil slow here [12:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/561894/ [12:23] daniel, which repo is untrusted? extras.ubuntu.com ? [12:25] bazhang, where will it say that? [12:26] daniel, what is the precise error you get. please pastebin it [12:27] apparmor apparmor-utils apport apport-gtk aptdaemon bsdutils cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dbus dbus-x11 dpkg evince evince-common fuse-utils gnome-system-tools ifupdown libapparmor-perl libapparmor1 libblkid1 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libcups2 libcupscgi1 libcupsdriver1 libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 libdbus-1-3 libevdocument3 libevview3 libfuse2 liblcms1 libparted0debian1 libsmbclient libsql [12:27] ite3-0 libuuid1 libwbclient0 mount parted python-apport python-aptdaemon python-aptdaemon-gtk python-problem-report samba-common samba-common-bin smbclient sudo ubuntu-sso-client util-linux uuid-runtime xserver-common xserver-xorg-core is all it gives [12:28] daniel, pastebin not here [12:28] ugh [12:28] daniel, there's no error there [12:29] those shouldnt be extras [12:29] that was it [12:29] Requires installation of untrusted packages [12:29] The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. [12:33] ppa:s in use? [12:33] daniel, well you can risk it, or verify the gpg [12:33] !gpgerr | daniel [12:33] ubottu, lag === leoquant is now known as Guest69629 [12:33] daniel: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com » [12:33] You have lag, I don't have lag [12:34] what is custom?? [12:35] daniel, just try the standard one [12:35] daniel, 'sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5' in terminal [12:38] knome that is already in the trusted sources [12:41] perhaps in sources.list.d then [12:43] bazhang, that is the file I was saying was empty [12:45] daniel, sounds like you added some repos that are not showing up in regular sources.list thus the need to check sources.list.d [12:45] daniel, cd into the directory and see whats in there [12:47] bazhang, I will do that but this is rather a plain build [12:47] daniel, so no tweaks, or the like. 100% standard repos and packages? [12:48] except nvidia but pretty plain [12:52] cd and nothing is there /etc/apt/sources.list.d$ [13:00] does the same after re adding the key as mentioned [13:03] all this is happening from the update prompt or update manager( pop up [13:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/561917/ [13:14] anyone? [13:36] Hello All [13:37] can anyone help me disableing standby ? [14:02] having problems connecting gprs getting error http://paste.ubuntu.com/561937/ if anybody can help [14:03] Bas: like what? [14:04] vikas: how / to what are you connecting? [14:04] to pc from phone [14:05] where did you dig that errormessage, it should be easy with networkmanager [14:06] plug in phone, right click on icon in the panel, manage connections, mobile, add new [14:09] Sysi: my screen goes blank , i disabled the screensaver and the powermanagement, no result [14:10] but it wakes up after that? [14:10] if i move the mouse [14:10] or press a key [14:11] it puzzeling me [14:11] it=its [14:12] you're sure you don't have other power managers? it may work after reboot [14:15] charlie-tca, that the download link for alpha 2 doesn't work yet means it hasn't been released yet, right? [14:16] yes, vinnl [14:16] OK [14:17] They don't let work until we get everything ready [14:17] OK, any ETA? [14:17] sometime in the next 12 hours is the best I got [14:17] :S [14:18] sorry, normally we try to be there by 18:00 UTC, but testing got held up [14:18] Yeah np, worst case the announcement will be there tomorrow [14:18] yeah [14:46] what's the target date for alpha 2 releasE? [14:46] oh, nevermind [14:46] just read the scrollback [18:29] Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 30 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. [19:00] Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting. Everyone is invited to attend. [19:17] can someone be kind enough to put a link for backtrack [19:23] can any one help with driver installs? [19:27] is anyone on?? [19:27] no [19:28] just us, mice [19:30] blind mice?? [19:30] no, fat mice [19:30] then i'm in the right place [19:30] if you ask any non-rhetorical question someone who knows the answer might say it [19:30] (not that I know what "backtrack" is) [19:30] well i would hope that people in here could help me with to most of them would be a simple answer [19:31] i can't install drivers in this ver. of linux and as i follow tut.s i get errors [19:31] and can't find anything useful about the erroes [19:31] why didn't you just use the system->additional drivers dialog? [19:32] it's not finding what you need? [19:33] no i saw it once and now it's gine [19:34] but it wasn't working it didn't show up in Wcid [19:34] Wcid? [19:34] i saw it in the wicd* [19:35] no thats wrong [19:36] It showed up in a hardware lookup thruogh the terminal [19:36] ok, anyways, maybe you could just describe what you are trying to do exactly [19:36] and we can try and point you to the best way to achieve that [19:36] ok sounds good [19:38] i'm trying to get my wireless card to be seen and activated, now i got a driver and followed to tut but i get errors. it comes down to i don't know how to install driverss [19:38] i'm new to this linux stuff and want to learn just having some problems [19:39] what card is it? [19:39] broadcom? [19:39] yes [19:39] ideapad u350 by any chance? [19:39] i've searched and found that this hybrid driver will work [19:39] no HP touchsmart [19:40] the hybrid driver from broadcom's website never worked for me [19:40] damn [19:40] the driver that is installed by ubuntu automatically works good though [19:40] didn't for me [19:41] could i use a netgear USB device3? [19:41] \would that auto install it's own driver [19:41] ? [19:42] I had some problems with a broadcom card on ideapad recently, the system saw it, but it could never see any network and the power management said it's set to 0db of signal [19:42] resetting bios to factory settings fixed that [19:43] ok [19:43] do you even have the "wireless networks" section in network manager? [19:44] but just help me with one step..... how would you install a driver in general? [19:44] on xubuntu -- with jockey [19:44] no nothing shows up the wireless card doesn't appear [19:45] I would avoid any 3rd party drivers [19:45] but i found a command that show hardware and it was there [19:45] but not working [19:45] welshmen: what happens when you run jockey-gtk? [19:45] welshmen: does it find the right driver? [20:52] Anyone know why I can not send files in pidgin on xubuntu? I could in gnome but, xfce the send file option is grey out [20:54] this is for gtalk or jabber network [21:19] I'm trying to vnc into my xubuntu box from a lubuntu box. I'm running it on a differnet port though (5950) and am wonering how to connect. vncviewer 192.168.2.171:5950 gives me "CConn: connected to host 192.168.2.171 port 5950, main: End of stream [21:19] " [22:31] Natty Alpha2 officially released - Please see the notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview [22:49] whats the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? [22:49] is one more of a beginner OS than the other [22:50] hm, Ubuntu uses Gnome desktop environment, Kubuntu uses KDE [22:50] Ubuntu is normally recommended for beginners, it is very easy to configure and use [23:21] i know this is just primarily a ubuntu chat, but i git a crappy problem. i got a laptop and wanted to put ubuntu on, but the drive had problems with win 7 ( i think it git a virus) and i formatted it with a PS3. Now it gets an error back in the laptop, so i took it out and boot got the same error ,than put the drive back in and now it just blinks like it reading the drive [23:26] Actually, stating you know that is not appropriate, then saying it, does not make it appropriate for this channel. [23:26] This channel is for support of Xubuntu [23:28] so regardless if I had had ubuntu on the computer and had a system failure it still wouldn't be considered support for ubuntu?? [23:29] right. Ubuntu support is in #ubuntu. We try to help when we have time, but we do not know as much about Ubuntu as we do about Xubuntu [23:44] Anyone here? [23:46] !anyone [23:46] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [23:51] is xfce 4.8 distributed with the xubuntu 10.10 live cd? [23:51] pylix: no, it is only on the natty cd's [23:52] Natty is the latest development version [23:52] so it's like in beta [23:53] yes, actually alpha at this time [23:53] We don't even get to beta until the end of March [23:54] can i have a link please [23:55] is it the 11.04 alpha 1? [23:55] no, alpha2. We just released alpha2 today [23:55] Please see the notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview [23:56] alpha1 has more updates now then the whole image size, I would guess. [23:57] where would i report encountered bugs? [23:57] launchpad [23:57] !bugs [23:57] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [23:58] kay.