[01:43] need help with application texlive. I want to check whether it is in repository or not? please check bug 712521 [01:44] Launchpad bug 712521 in texlive-base (Ubuntu) "[Needs packaging] TeXLive 2010" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712521 [02:25] to build i386 packages do I need a chroot? if so is it better to use something like virtual box? [02:26] chroots are typically fine to build stuff. === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [02:42] Quintasan: see git://git.debian.org/pkg-kde/kde-extras/bangarang.git [02:43] Quintasan: It was quicker for me just to redo it than to rebase/merge the two very much diverged branches. [03:36] in the build-depends I have added qt4-qmake but findQ4.cmake fails to find it in my pbuilder chroot, what could be wrong? [03:37] it even downloaded qt4-qmake... [04:31] ScottK: testing atm [04:56] ScottK: all seems to work, wlan not tested, but broadband tested instead [04:57] ScottK: and as usual, installer not tested other than "it runs" [06:18] [docmessages] yurchor * 1218741 * trunk/l10n-kde4/uk/ (14 files in 9 dirs) SVN_SILENT Ukrainian translation update === hunger_ is now known as hunger [10:30] [docmessages] zepires * 1218763 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt/ (12 files in 8 dirs) Finished HEAD for now [10:33] [messages] pelcak * 1218765 * trunk/l10n-kde4/cs/messages/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Update from Summit [11:40] Which is basic KDE Package For Ubuntu (GNOME)? [11:49] hi [11:50] c2tarun: hi :) [11:51] hi droidslayer :) [11:51] Riddell: booked your tickets yet? :P ... [11:51] c2tarun: ssup? [11:51] droidslayer: you booked your tickets? [11:52] Yep [11:52] Just got a mail from indigo [11:52] droidslayer: grt :) [11:53] :) [11:58] droidslayer: look at bug 681582 ;) [11:58] Launchpad bug 681582 in bzr-builder "fails to build with "bzr: out of memory"" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681582 [11:59] Yayyyy [11:59] Now all we need is jelmer to release it into LP [12:00] droidslayer: he did that a few hours ago :P [12:00] Ahhh [12:00] Kewl [12:00] and works :D [12:00] Thats the best part [12:00] :) [12:01] I'll start on something in 90 mins [13:12] Tm_T: Thanks. [13:29] Tm_T: Released the image based on your testing. Thanks again. [13:38] does anyone has a good link to how do I create simple upstart scripts? my googling is not being helpfull (at least I can't start my job yet :P ) [14:01] dantti: there are enough examples in /etc/init/ - and there's http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [14:02] yofel: yep, I didn't know that there were stored at /etc/init/ :P , now I'm strugling on how to make cmake install it :P === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:09] dantti, If you're packaging an app, use dh_installinit [14:12] persia: I'm going to but shouldn't I first install it in the right location with cmake? [14:13] If you do that, you have to pass --onlyscripts to dh_installinit, which may complicate your packaging. [14:59] so i'll need someone to sponsor a upload of kdegames to natty soonish [15:01] hi folks i just noticed there is still no ubuntu-one kde interface [15:01] is this planned? cause in this bug report it doesnt seem so [15:01] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/375145 [15:01] Ubuntu bug 375145 in Ubuntu One Client "Ubuntu One should have a KDE client" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [15:05] well .... [15:05] i'll let apachelogger answer that one [15:05] ghostcube: basically u1 api keeps getting broken and there is no way we can keep up with that [15:06] ah ok :) cause in the ubuntu mailing list there has been a question about ubuntu-one in kde and thats not working somehow [15:06] kshadeslayer: thx for the answer so far :) === kshadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer [15:13] gnaa, will the lp bug watch spam ever stop?! [15:14] debfx: just unsubscribe from kubuntu-bugs [15:14] i'll subscribe back in 4-5 days when everything returns to normal [15:14] shadeslayer: I'm not subscribed to that list, just individual bug reports [15:14] ah [15:15] i'm not subscribed to many individual bug reports ;) [15:15] lucky you ;) [15:36] apachelogger: master ... i've read the Ubuntu Design guidelines ... ;) [15:37] shadeslayer: nah not master :) old man lulz [15:37] *hide and run* [15:37] haha :P [15:38] ghostcube: he claims he is 19 [15:38] born in 19xx [15:38] :D [15:38] lol [16:38] so can someone sponsor a upload of kdegames from https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra when it lands there [16:39] I need some sponsoring too :) [16:42] hm maybe I should apply for kubuntu-dev ... [16:43] ah, you did the kajongg stuff [16:43] yep [16:43] yofel: oh do we close bugs with this package? [16:45] doesn't look like it [17:04] hi [17:04] hi [17:04] tazz: do you know any tutorial that explains how to look at the diff file? [17:04] tazz: I mean diff output [17:05] c2tarun, http://www.linuxtutorialblog.com/post/introduction-using-diff-and-patch-tutorial [17:06] tazz: thanks a lot :) [17:07] Riddell: hi, I backported bluedevil to maverick yesterday. take a look at bug 712678 [17:07] Launchpad bug 712678 in maverick-backports "Request for backport of newer version of bluedevil" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712678 [17:07] Riddell: I mean not backported :P requested :) === ximion1 is now known as ximion [17:21] shadeslayer: nope, I never filed one on lp [17:21] ok [17:21] yofel: i fixed it for you ... go test :P [17:22] jussi wanted it, I just debugged it until I got stuck at cmake and had the kde folks fix it [17:23] ah [17:23] can anyone please explain me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562650/ [17:23] jussi: its fixed ... just needs to be uploaded to natty ;) [17:23] c2tarun: Hunk #1 FAILED at 21. [17:23] fix the patch [17:24] shadeslayer: how to fix the patch? can you please explain a bit. [17:24] c2tarun: so patches are based ontop of existing code [17:24] if the base code changes, your patch needs to be updated [17:25] we need to update the patch? not apply the patch> [17:25] the patch? * [17:25] well, your patch fails to apply [17:26] since the code has changed [17:26] so you either need to update or remove it depending on the upstream changes [17:26] spcifically debian/patches/02-string_h.patch [17:27] yofel: i removed it first, I thought it is already applied in upstream. but see the comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bibshelf/+bug/713023 [17:27] Ubuntu bug 713023 in bibshelf (Ubuntu) "Newer Version Available" [Undecided,Incomplete] [17:27] c2tarun: maybe you dropped the wrong patch? [17:28] from the name of the failed one there seems to be more than one patch [17:29] yofel: I usually dont get that how the patches work? Any suggestions where can i read about them? [17:30] patches are changes to the source [17:30] yofel: who create patches? [17:30] so if you find a bug in the upstream code, and need to fix it immediately you would add a patch to the package [17:30] depends [17:30] you can use a patch from upstream, or you can create your own one [17:30] depending on the situation [17:31] upstream patches would usually come from the version control system where upstream has fixed a bug, and you take the diff from that fix [17:31] yofel: why upstream introduce patches? can't they change the source code directly? [17:32] upstream doesn't usually introduce patches, they sometimes do if a fix has to be shipped immediately, but they can't release a new upstream version, or that would take too much time [17:33] usually you would look at the upstream fix, and then create a patch yourself [17:33] another case for patches are when the upstream code doesn't work on your system without changes (for whatever reason) [17:33] or when you want to include a modification in the upstream program that upstream isn't interested in [17:34] yofel: so what is meaning of a patch fails? [17:35] when you create a patch, the diff contains part of the code so when the patch is applied, the program knows *where* to apply those changes [17:35] and if the file where the patch has to be applied changes [17:35] kaboom ... ;) [17:35] if the code changes, those parts of the code that the patch remembers aren't there anymore, so the progam doesn't know what to do -> FAIL [17:36] c2tarun: as for your case... [17:37] c2tarun: new debian packages automatically apply patches when you unpack them, so if you want to see if a fix was included upstream, you need to look at the plain upstream source [17:37] so it seems that you somehow packaged it, the patch got applied, you checked if the fix was applied upstream after that and decided to drop the patch [17:37] so the patch still appeared in the packaging diff.gz [17:38] (that's what Chris tries to tell you on the bug) [17:40] yofel: how can i check whether a patch is applied to upstream? [17:40] yofel: and you said patches get automaticall applied while unpacking, if so then they should give error while unpacking only? [17:40] check what the patch does, and see if the upstream code already contains those changes [17:41] no, the unpacking process went fine, it seems you copied the debian/ folder in such a situation or something similiar and then tried to build that [17:42] yofel: ya i copied it. [17:42] and dpkg source format 3 will then create a debian/patches/debian-changes-1.6.0-0ubuntu1 [17:42] you shouldn't have such a file unless you edited the source manually without patches [17:42] (necessary sometimes, but rarely) [17:43] yofel: can you please explain again how can i check whether a patch is applied or not? [17:45] yofel: ping [17:45] easy way? unpack the upstream source and try to apply the patch. If it fails like it did now you'll know you need to update [17:45] c2tarun: and please give me some time to type... [17:45] yofel: hehe ... jelmer is on #launchpad right now [17:45] good time to thank him :P [17:45] yofel: sure :) sorry i poked [17:46] yofel: is there anyother way to apply the patch without running debuild [17:46] c2tarun: ... update the patch, or remove it, for latter you'll have to read the files and check if the changes are the same [17:46] c2tarun: sure, 'patch -p < patchfile', read the manpage on what level means [17:47] usually the level is 1 [17:48] c2tarun: also, since your package uses source format 3.0 (quilt) - you should read http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 at least once, it has some links on how to use quilt too [17:49] (quilt is a patch management system) [17:49] yofel: sure [17:49] takes a bit getting used to, but it's much easier to manage than what we had before.. [17:55] I asked this mornig but I guess ppl were sleeping :P , when I run debuild-pbuilder to build a package the compilations fails saying qt qmake was not found (tho I use cmake and qmake is installed), any tips? [17:56] dantti: got the actual error? [17:57] yofel: CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:1148 (MESSAGE): Qt qmake not found! [17:57] isn't that? [17:57] so i finally found out why apachelogger wants unicorns [17:57] http://mingle2.com/dating/unicorn [17:58] lol [17:59] dantti: odd, should be fine as long as you have qmake-qt4... [17:59] yofel: very... [18:00] yofel: tbh I have just tried running cmake on the regular user and still the same issue, maybe kde4.6 related? lol :P [18:01] dantti: what are you trying to build? [18:01] (since this is FindQt4, do you have libqt4-dev installed?) [18:02] yes I do, actually I can build my qt4-app on my old build dir... [18:02] odd === ximion is now known as ximion1 [18:03] Is it ok if I apply each patch to newer version one by one and then remove them all. and then pack? [18:04] c2tarun: uh ... what? [18:04] you need to check which patch is failing and fix that particular patch [18:05] how can I fix a patch, I don't know anything about the source code? :( [18:05] c2tarun: if you apply all patches before packaging it would defy the point of them being there... [18:05] Is there any way to check whether a patch is failing or not? without applying them? [18:06] I only know testapply and read the source, shadeslayer? [18:06] same thing [18:06] quilt too [18:06] c2tarun: apply the patches using quilt, and check which one fails [18:07] then go through the patch and then the source code and see what has changed [18:08] shadeslayer: why should I see what has changed? I mean what is use of it? :( [18:09] c2tarun: like yofel said, if there was a critical fix that came out after upstream released the source code, we incorporate it in our packages via a patch system [18:09] well, someone had a reason to add the patch, so before you remove the patch you need to see if that reason still exists [18:09] these patches need to be refreshed/dropped when packaging a new release etc [18:10] if in doubt, talk to the person that added the patch and have them look [18:10] for that you need to look at the changelog ;) [18:13] That is what I am not able to understand :( If a patch applies properly than it is correct because I borrowed that patch from the previous version, if current version contains the old bug fixed by that particular patch we should apply the patch or leave it there. If patch fails then there is no point of using that patch as upstream may have changed the source code and fixed the bug. So in either cases we don't need to look at the source code :( [18:13] c2tarun: and what if they changed the source for a different reason and didn't fix the bug the patch is there for? [18:14] exactly [18:14] so the patch is still needed but doesn't apply anymore and needs to be updated [18:14] ( that's usually not the case tho ;) ) [18:14] yeah, but does happen [18:14] anyway... [18:14] yep [18:15] what happend in your case was a packaging mistake it seems === ximion1 is now known as ximion [18:15] can you start from scratch and see if it still fails? [18:15] yofel: take qtwebkit for example ... there are patches there which qtwebkit can't/won't apply upstream [18:16] yep [18:16] so first we check whether a patch is applying or not. If it fails then we have to fix that patch :( hmm.... [18:16] c2tarun: if it fails, check if the patch is needed or not [18:16] shadeslayer: that seems to be a daunting task :( [18:16] and then if isn't, remove it, if it is, update it [18:17] c2tarun: you'll get used to it ;) [18:17] shadeslayer: one more prob. :( I am not able to understand the format of patch file. Can u help me with that ? [18:17] c2tarun: syre [18:17] *sure [18:17] one sec [18:18] shadeslayer: ok. [18:18] :) [18:18] usually it's the output created by 'diff' 'diff -ruN' usually [18:18] c2tarun: a patch is basically a difference between 2 files, the old one and new one [18:18] yofel: -ruNad [18:18] or you use quilt, then quilt will take care of creating the file containg your differences [18:19] shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562682/ look at this patch file [18:19] ah [18:19] didn't know ad ^^ [18:19] yofel: me neither ... apachelogger told me :P [18:19] heh [18:19] that is one awesome looking patch i must say [18:20] shadeslayer: :/ suppose if this patch fails, can u explain please where to look? [18:20] c2tarun: SigC namespace has been deprecated since libsigc++ 2.0. [18:20] read line 2 ;) [18:20] shadeslayer: do you merging ktorrent? [18:21] ari-tczew: haven't looked at it yet ... im trying to fix some rekonq ssl errors [18:21] shadeslayer: got to go, roomies b'day. i'll be right back. [18:21] cya :) [18:21] i'm here all night :P [18:21] shadeslayer: I'm interested in merge ktorrent. [18:21] ari-tczew: feel free to take up [18:24] ok [18:40] shadeslayer: u there? [18:40] yep [18:40] ssup [18:40] enjoyed the cake :) anyway you looked at that patch file? [18:41] yep [18:41] c2tarun: read line 2 [18:41] the SigC namespace was deprecated [18:42] so basically SigC was renamed to sigc [18:42] ok. then === ximion is now known as ximion1 === ximion1 is now known as ximion [18:49] shadeslayer: actually I want to know that suppose this patch fails what to do then? [18:50] c2tarun: right ... then you look at the sources [18:50] open src/DialogBook.h [18:50] sources as like DialogBook.h? [18:51] right now i'm wondering why they have function declaration in their header files o_O [18:52] c2tarun: go to the extracted folder, and cd to src/DialogBook.h [18:52] and then search for that particular line [18:53] ok wait [18:53] Ya i opened it [18:53] + means lines added and - means removed? right? [18:53] shadeslayer: ^ [18:53] yep [18:54] c2tarun: keep highlighting me ... i tend to loose track of stuff :P [18:54] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/4141/ << O_O [18:55] need to fix the flipping style issues [18:59] shadeslayer: sorry i got disconnected. you there? === Guest79423 is now known as c2tarun [18:59] c2tarun: yep [19:00] so + means lines added and - means lines removed? [19:00] yep [19:00] c2tarun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff [19:00] read that [19:00] shouldn't take alot of time [19:00] sure :) [19:05] shadeslayer: I got to go :( very sorry. I'll read your document. Can you please tell me any book on Qt programming? [19:06] c2tarun: ever programmed in C++? [19:06] http://qt.nokia.com/developer/books/ >> [19:06] shadeslayer: yup, C,C++ and JAVA but in all to basic level. I mean no networking or anything like that [19:06] c2tarun: and i'm not talking about Turbo C++ :P [19:07] ok .. shouldn't be much of a issue, im learning stuff myself ... so i'd say read tutorials from http://doc.qt.nokia.com/ [19:08] jjesse: hi [19:09] shadeslayer: ya sure. I haven't used windows since last six months :) [19:09] alright :D [19:09] c2tarun: you'll be fine :) [19:09] read up on widgets and layouts [19:09] signal's and slots too [19:10] shadeslayer: signals? [19:11] c2tarun: ping [19:11] apachelogger: ping [19:12] hi Quintasan :) [19:12] Quintasan: apachelogger doesn't have interwebz ... he is in Egypt [19:12] like [19:12] what? [19:12] Why on earth is he in Egypt? [19:12] Quintasan: jk [19:13] lol [19:13] you're not on fb are you [19:13] I do own a fb account but I rarely use it [19:13] my wifi is seriously cursed [19:13] Quintasan: lrn2socialize? :P [19:13] ryanakca: I will check the bangarang and upload it, apachelogger [19:13] hi Quintasan [19:13] yofel: only when you use it though right :) [19:14] indeed [19:14] shadeslayer: lrn2togoingout instead of facebook :P [19:14] Quintasan: what are you going to do on bangarang? [19:14] heh [19:14] Quintasan: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/02/04/plasma-desktopJk1818.jpg [19:15] c2tarun: review the debian stuff that ryanakca commited and upload it to Ubuntu since we won't be getting it so fast in debian [19:15] ryanakca: What was blocking it again, KDE 4.6? [19:15] OH [19:15] Quintasan: plz upload kdegames [19:16] Quintasan: fancy debs from https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra [19:16] only when I'm done with bangarang [19:16] * Quintasan introduced policy of not doing more than one package at once [19:17] also ... don't package after 12 AM ... you can only code after 12 AM [19:18] bug 710582 [19:18] O_O [19:18] Launchpad bug 710582 in webkit (Ubuntu Natty) "webkit crashes on amd64 architecture with SIGSEGV in WTF::OSAllocator::reserveAndCommit() was: webkit does not implement "assert" sanely" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582 [19:18] wtf calls a namespace wtf o.O [19:18] yofel: apple [19:19] and yeah .. KDE has this namespace called WTF :P [19:20] yofel: any ideas on how to test http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261337 [19:20] KDE bug 261337 in general "rekonq doesn't save accepted SSL certificate" [Normal,New] [19:21] like some very shody site that has a untrusted certificate etc [19:21] hm, I did hit one a while ago, lemme find it [19:21] bwahaha .... i dont have krunner [19:22] notes.kde.org used to be untrusted [19:22] then it was fixed [19:22] you're supposed to praise kde, not break it... [19:24] yofel: known bug ... i reported it [19:24] stupid spell check plugin [19:24] hahaha [19:27] shadeslayer: this gives me an untrusted warning https://www.wzdftpd.net/blog/index.php?post/2008/02/05/3-quilt-a-patch-management-system-how-to-survive-with-many-patches [19:27] *click* [19:27] yofel: rekonq? [19:27] nope, ffx [19:28] wait, rekonq has the built in spell check? [19:28] hmm same on rekonq [19:28] :P:P [19:28] DarkwingDuck: you wish [19:28] it's coming [19:28] shadeslayer: didn't you say that at UDS? :P:P [19:28] I know for a fact that the part that draws the squiggly lines is working [19:28] DarkwingDuck: i also said it has to be done in webkit [19:29] but yep, it's being actively developed [19:29] shadeslayer: oh yeah... I pretty much pointed at apachelogger when you said that. hehehe [19:29] hahah :D [19:29] hmm [19:30] so i need a kolab server for testing [19:30] now how do i get one of those :S [19:31] why does clicking that link result in the notifier thing in my panel starting to download it, instead of it just opening in firefox like *every other link*??? [19:31] Riddell: ping [19:31] or JontheEchidna [19:31] maco: doesn't it open a web browser? [19:31] shadeslayer: no [19:32] maco: 4.6? [19:32] shadeslayer: nah normal maverick [19:33] quite possibly that KDE 4.5 thinks that the link can be downloaded [19:34] maco: in krunner : keditfiletype text/html [19:34] Does it have anything in Application Preference order? [19:34] ( Also ... i can't remember which KDE version, there was this bug where it would download URL's to /tmp ) [19:35] hrmph can i use a normal shell? krunner's not running [19:35] yep [19:53] Quintasan: At least 4.5 to compile, but apachelogger said that it would be really crummy without 4.6 [19:53] [messages] schlander * 1218816 * trunk/l10n-kde4/da/ (16 files in 8 dirs) translation update [19:54] shadeslayer: it has firefox first [19:54] shadeslayer: but it also says *.htm and *.html .... while that page lacks a file extension [19:55] hmm [19:55] maco: the mimetype of that page is text/html [19:55] so it shouldn't matter [19:55] shadeslayer: maybe 4.5 only uses extensions not mimetype? [19:55] don't think so ... kio could be buggy [19:58] ryanakca: are you going to merge offlineimap from Debian? [20:02] ari-tczew: I had completely forgotten about it. If you want to, feel free to nab it... I don't think I've touched it since maverick, I don't remember why I dropped it... [20:07] Debian-specific changes are no longer stored in a single .diff.gz but in multiple patches in debian/patches/. It is compatible with quilt (hence its name) but does not require its usage as dpkg-source is able to do everything needed by itself. It applies patches at extraction time and update the patch series at build time. [20:07] I am not sure about this? [20:07] when should those patches been removed in ubuntu? [20:09] it's because of bug 706409 [20:09] Launchpad bug 706409 in kid3 (Ubuntu) "kid3 new upstream release 1.5 and move to universe" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706409 [20:09] ok i'm sleeping [20:09] night all [20:11] [docmessages] yurchor * 1218823 * trunk/l10n-kde4/uk/ (14 files in 8 dirs) SVN_SILENT Ukrainian translation update [22:48] http://i.imgur.com/13U8G.png KSpread is the most relevant result for "spreadsheet" :D [23:17] JontheEchidna: still there? [23:17] yup [23:18] JontheEchidna: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/bangarang_2.0-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz [23:18] JontheEchidna: Care to review? I'm not sure if leaving the changelog this way would be alright [23:19] hmm [23:20] I'd remove that unreleased bit since its not relevant [23:20] !info bangarang natty [23:21] bangarang (source: bangarang): Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 319 kB, installed size 1508 kB [23:21] I'm seeing a 2.0-0ubuntu1 in natty already. [23:21] bug 712532 [23:21] what? [23:21] Launchpad bug 712532 in bangarang (Ubuntu) "Please update Bangarang to 2.0" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712532 [23:22] damn apachelogger [23:22] I don't think he had anything to do with that (for once :P) [23:22] JontheEchidna: He was pestering me to do it since he wanted it for FOSDEM or something like this [23:23] oh [23:23] trollface.jpg [23:23] FFFFF [23:24] * Add the missing dependency on gstreamer0.10-x [23:24] I knew I missed something :S [23:25] you know [23:25] somebody could make a rageface emoticon theme for KDE [23:25] would be so boss [23:25] adn trollface [23:26] and* [23:26] [messages] alvarenga * 1218845 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt_BR/messages/ (12 files in 8 dirs) [KDE-pt_BR] [23:26] http://i.imgur.com/vjZ6I.jpg [23:27] JontheEchidna: lol, good one [23:27] and hooray for broken x stack [23:28] I'm sooooo tired, I feel like sleeping all day tomorrow but we should kinda get Neon sorted [23:28]