[00:11] Is KDE 4.6 coming out for Kubuntu Lucid? [00:11] no [00:12] 4.6 will ship in 11.04 [00:12] Yes, but via the Backports PPA? [00:12] lucid will continue receiving updates to the stable 4.4.x tree [00:12] ahh ppa...not sure who's planning on doing what [00:12] I have enabled the backports ppa and I'm stuck on 4.5 at the moment [00:12] hi guys, how do i install network-manager-gnome, i want to remove current nm first [00:12] guess it depends if someone gets a Round Tuit? [00:12] ok:) [00:13] why do you want to do that? [00:13] me? [00:13] yes [00:13] i like gnm better [00:13] which nm are you currently using? [00:13] kde has two [00:14] 10.04 and 10.10 shipped different ones, and if you upgrade 10.04 -> 10.10 you kept 10.04's [00:14] i am on 10.10 [00:14] it's the default one [00:15] it says kde control module, not sure what it is called [00:15] they both have that [00:15] in your panel, it opens up like a big wide rectangle? [00:15] as opposed to a tall menu-like thing? [00:15] thats plasma-widget-network-manager. the other kde one is knetworkmanager which is tall menu-like like the gnome one [00:16] yeah i guess so [00:16] it's just like the one in slackware [00:17] anyone know if it's possible for the task manager to just display icons instead of program names and icons ? [00:17] anchorschmidt: there is no 4.6 for lucid and it's not planned either [00:17] too much work [00:17] nabukadnezar43: slackware ships wicd [00:18] though....hmm i wonder if those have switchable backends to allow them to use wicd... [00:18] yofel: not enough Round Tuits? [00:18] Mase_wk: no, but you could replace it with plasma-widget-smooth-tasks which can do that I think [00:19] ok will look at that thanks [00:20] maco: that too ^^ [00:23] yofel: smooth-tasks seems to work well [00:23] thanks [00:24] smooth tasks is awesome, I'm using it right now. [00:24] saves a lot of space [00:24] yup does indeed, tis why i wanted it [00:28] I started a Linux website sometime back. It's located at tux-crazy.com . If anyone is interested, I write how to articles and reviews. I'm going to publish a review of KDE 4.6 tomorrow. [00:29] this is wrong.something happened with the recent updates.every time I click a torrent, it askes me what program I wanna use [00:29] how many torrent programs do you have? [00:29] used to just open ktorrent [00:29] just the default? [00:29] is there a "always use this one" checkbox? [00:29] yep [00:29] check it? [00:30] I tried that and it did not work [00:30] hrmph [00:30] are you using Google chrome, by chance? [00:30] yeah-ktorrent is the default, also [00:30] firefox [00:30] it changed both my pc's [00:30] that's strange. [00:31] yeah, your tellin me... [00:31] now I got 3 more clickes to download [00:32] whatta pain [00:32] :( [00:32] this doesn't help my tech-impared wife... [00:36] huh. lookin at my file associations, and .torrent files are designated for ktorrent. [00:36] gee [00:36] something is wrong... [00:37] maco: i can't start nm-applet now, what should i do [00:38] nabukadnezar43: you have to stop the currently running network manager [00:38] before you can start nm-applet [00:38] it only lets one run at a time [00:38] i unistalled plasma network manager [00:40] i added nm-applet to startup programs [00:40] then restarted [00:40] plasma is not showing in the notifications area any more [00:40] but there is no gnome nm either [00:50] westmi49319: what are you trying to achieve ? [00:53] ok i found that if i use gnome icons, nm-applet runs [00:53] so what can i do as a workaround [00:53] gnome icons look really ugly [00:55] here's the error i get when i run nm-applet: "http://pastebin.com/1EU1N4iE" [00:56] i need som help could someone tell me how I can remove the cdrom as the active respository through a terminal command [00:58] edit /etc/apt/sources.list and commend the cd apt line at the top out [00:59] *comment [01:01] thanks i had to remove kapackage it to install a bunch of stuff to get my wireless working what is the terminal command that i can use to re-install [01:04] new to linux how can i install the upadates once the are dloaded [01:09] Merlin__: not sure what you mean...the updates should just install themselves [01:10] you can use apt-get from the command line or kpackagekit to install what you want [01:11] you can remove the cdrom by editing /etc/apt-sources or you can use kpackagekit [01:11] ok i didnt know if kpackage was in there or not, when i installed my wireless driver i had to remove and reinstall a bunch of python packages and it uninstalled kpackage and i want to reinstall kpackage to my machine [01:19] i cant get kontact or any of the the PIM stuff to work after upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. i click it and it and the cursor bounces, but then nothing happens. what should i do? [01:22] Mase_wk take a look at what I already wrote earlier? [01:23] hmmm appears he left [01:23] cato373: Have you tried running it from the command line? [01:24] dsrich: i just did. i get a no such file or directory error. [01:24] cato373, did ya try the right click deal? [01:25] right click and open with.... [01:26] westmi49319: it gives me options for removing from the kicker panel [01:27] ah [01:28] i have everything backed up, so no info is lost, but i would like to use it before class starts. i am hoping it is a simple fix. :) [01:28] anyone know the terminal command using apt-get that i can use to get kpackageit [01:28] cato373: May I suggest trying to install/reinstall it? [01:30] sudo apt-get install kpackageit [01:30] dsrich: yes, that was my next move. i am nervous about doing so. i am at the kontact website looking for what the components are, and what if in any order i should do so. [01:30] password required [01:31] it said that it was unable to locate kpackageit [01:31] althought it is actually kpackagekit [01:31] got it [01:31] thanks [01:32] westmi49319: i will try it [01:33] westmi49319: kpackagekit? [01:34] hmm let me check [01:34] yep [01:35] cato373, that was for Merlin_ [01:35] westmi49319: oops. [01:36] ha my dad's name is Merlin [01:38] kontact won't reinstall because of unmet dependencies [01:40] ok can anyone tell me why i can not get cairo dock when i chose the bottom position it stays in the right hand corner of the main monitor of my dual display setup [01:41] cato373, the first thing that google gave me: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=18591 [01:42] cato373: check did you have instaled libkontactinterface4 and libakonadi-contact4 [01:43] iulian_: kontact : Depends: libkdepim4 (= 4:4.4.6-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.4.8-0ubuntu0.0.1 is to be installed [01:43] what does that mean? [01:44] westmi49319: i am not sure i want to force the install [01:46] sudo apt-get -f install will fix any broken dependicies [01:47] westmi49319: k [01:53] i used the apt-get build-dep command for kontact. it seems to be loading a bunch of stuff. [01:57] cato373: were you planning on building it from source? That is what build-dep is for [01:58] dsrich: no. i dont know enought to do that. i thought was rebuilding the upgrade. [01:59] cato373: What is the output of 'sudo apt-get install kontact'? [02:00] cato373: I am asking what a command-line installation attempt does. [02:01] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) [02:01] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [02:02] cato373: Do you have aptitude or synaptic open? [02:04] now that the packages are done extracting i get: kontact : Depends: libkdepim4 (= 4:4.4.6-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.4.8-0ubuntu0.0.1 is to be installed E: Broken packages [02:04] dsrich: now that the packages are done extracting i get: kontact : Depends: libkdepim4 (= 4:4.4.6-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.4.8-0ubuntu0.0.1 is to be installed E: Broken packages [02:05] dsrich: only quasell, konqueror, and konsole are open [02:06] cato373: Back where we started. [02:08] i can reinstall ku as 10.10 instead of the upgrade [02:09] shouldnt take over an hour. [02:11] cato373: I am not familiar enough with the innards of apt to understand why it is complaining the libkdepim4 version unless it is failing because it requires the later version and that version has not entered the repositorrries yet. [02:11] cato373 s/complaining/complaining about/ [02:15] dsrich: i will try a direct install of 10.10, since i just upgraded from 10.04. [02:15] cato373: Good luck, and good night... [02:17] have a good night all. bbl. [02:19] why did you change ctrl+shift+N to ctrl+shift+T? also, ctrl+shift+T does not change the path to the current, but to $HOME... === mauricio is now known as Guest92604 [03:23] why kuuntu [03:24] why kde 4.6 its slow in netbooks? === gpc is now known as Gulfstream === IdleOne is now known as gpc === gpc is now known as IdleTwo === IdleTwo is now known as gpc [03:47] kde ftw === mauricio_ is now known as Debian12345 === Debian12345 is now known as Debian_ [05:12] so... is this a good place to ask about problems with the KDE Plasma desktop? [05:18] am i in the wrong channel to ask ?'s [05:19] sigh.. [05:56] having trouble install kubuntu on dell inspiron 1501 === greg_ is now known as gnomeboy [06:09] hi [06:10] I have a USB bluetooth adapter that is 2.0+EDR (0e5e:6622 Conwise Technology Co., Ltd. CW6622). I can plug it into my kubuntu desktop and it immediately detects it and works, however, when I connect a2dp headphones to it, the audio stutters (on for one second, off for one second, on for a second, etc.) Are there any tweaks i can make to make it work? The headphones work fine on my kubuntu netbook with built-in bluetooth [07:25] hi! I have serious problems with kubuntu and sound [07:25] half of the time my card is recognised the other half is not [07:25] it is like a lottery [07:25] (when you boot kde) [07:26] I do not have this problem when I switch to gdm + gnome [07:26] I am on kubuntu 1004 lts 64 bits [07:26] s/bits/bit [07:27] codec is SigmaTel STAC9205 [07:35] lspci returns 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) === u is now known as Guest74413 [07:37] hello [07:40] Recovery Mode is not working after install kdebase-workspace and removed GDM [07:41] How can fix this problem please? [07:52] HALP everything suddenly went blurry. i xrandr'd to my laptop screen and it was clear, but then back to the external monitor and it was blurry again! [07:57] Hi, I just installed 10.10 and installed all updates, and now I'm getting a Kdesudo popup every time I boot saying No command arguments supplied! How do I figure out where this is coming from? [08:26] good morning [08:33] I have an hardware related install request I would like to install kubuntu on a Thinkstation C20 Xeon X5660 [08:34] should i do the alternate or can i simply install the normal version? [08:34] the system will be running on a 160 BG SSD [08:49] why are you not talking ? [08:52] I have an hardware related install request I would like to install kubuntu on a Thinkstation C20 Xeon X5660 [08:52] should i do the alternate or can i simply install the normal version? [08:52] the system will be running on a 160 BG SSD [08:52] anyone? [08:52] skidzo, a server? [08:52] no it will be my workstation [08:53] skidzo, either should do then [08:53] ok what type of file system? [08:53] skidzo, ext4 is default [08:54] ok I think i will stay with ext4 [08:54] then just the normal 64bit [08:54] sure [08:55] ok thanks [08:55] :-) [08:55] :) [08:56] ah his problem is solved.. Glad! [08:58] well I was wondering if the SSD is chosen as default, and I am curious if the default os can be removed easily [08:58] windows is preinstalled? [08:59] since its early days ;-) [08:59] thats the only reason why people use it or not? [08:59] want to dual boot, or just only kubuntu [08:59] i don't want to dual boot [08:59] then sure, choose 'use entire disk' [09:00] but i would like to stay with an image of the old configuration [09:00] you may want to ask in ##windows how to do that as I have no idea :) [09:01] hehe [09:01] perhaps clonezilla, but really I'm clueless in that respect [09:04] thanks for the hint actually i don't need to clone Win7 preinstalled [09:05] but i would like to clone my system to the other machine which will arrive in a month [09:06] I've seen that there is a clonezilla live dvd [09:08] ok thanks a lot! [09:08] bye! === ahox is now known as incog === jfelipe is now known as jfelipe_afk [10:01] Just registered with openDesktop.org & would like to use KDE's Social Desktop feature. However, it seems it does not work as long as I'm using OpenID because I have to put my username and passwort... Any idea? [10:02] I'm having OpenID Launchpad account, so how to make the Social Desktop use it? [10:57] bazhang, [10:58] Hello? [10:59] Hi GHH [11:00] hi [11:00] rork, thank for reply but i have problem [11:01] rork, Do you have experience customizing Ubuntu? [11:02] !ask | GHH [11:02] GHH: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [11:02] I'm not the only one around, if I don't know the question someone else might [11:02] haha [11:02] OK [11:04] I have little experience customizing ubuntu, but it's a broad term [11:05] I am trying to customize Ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04. But i want to get the basic KDE environment(Not kdm for GUI login interface and need to remove GDM) [11:06] Actually which package do i need to install? [11:09] GHH: kubuntu-desktop for the full package, there's also a minimal KDE install but I can't find the name atm [11:29] moin === dawehner is now known as dereine === ben___ is now known as Guest2231 [12:22] Hi there, this might be a trick question... Why the ctrl+shift shortcuts on Eclipse IDE stop working when running on KDE (4.6) ? [12:22] Really, it's very annoying [12:23] any insights? [12:23] mm [12:23] cheers [12:23] maybe because shortcuts are changed [12:24] vhogemann: try to see if that shortcuts is already taken by other kde application [12:24] Peace-: nah... I checked on Eclipse, and they're mapped as they used to be [12:24] no.. [12:24] systemsettings [12:24] shortcuts [12:24] search for that shortcuts [12:24] coudl be assigned to a kde application [12:25] Peace-: ok... Iĺl try that, but taking ctrl+shift+w on a system wide level? [12:25] This is just abusive, or mean [12:25] vhogemann: i don't use ecclipse i don't know [12:25] about that stuff [12:25] Heh [12:26] well, thanks for the tip... I'll try to look on system settings [12:32] i have a strange mildly irritating issue, parts of the screen don't refresh when I scroll, particularly noticible in websites (rekonq) but also happens in kontact and okular, any ideas where to look for the source? [12:34] Decorian, pehaps your video driver... and desktop effects. [12:34] Decorian, try to disable Desktop Effects and see if the problem persists [12:34] ok thanks, i'll have a go === mren|off is now known as mren [13:47] I'm trying to install 10.04 and missing the printer for sending a fax. Where can I find it? === root is now known as miaoLUCE === miaoLUCE is now known as faLUCE [13:51] hy! [13:51] just installed kubuntu and was wondering , is it safe to update packages ? [13:54] terror: Why wouldn't it be? [13:56] because of the xorg updates - i think there is a chance for the system to break (hope I'm wrong because they are already installing :) )? [13:56] or are they tested prior to adding them in the default repositories ? [13:56] aka considered stable [13:58] Hey folks [14:04] terror: wich version ? [14:04] which [14:04] 10.04? [14:04] 10.10? [14:04] 10.10 [14:05] terror: standard repository? [14:05] yes [14:05] didn't change anything related to software sources [14:05] terror: why do you want upgrade your system doesn't it work well now? [14:05] upgrade system = the best way to mess a working computer [14:05] stable computer = no upgrade [14:06] it feels kinda sluggish (x3100 intel card) , hoping it will be better after the updates [14:06] if you have an issue you have the right to try to solve it with an upgrading === oz_ is now known as oz_716 [14:06] terror: mm ok you can do this... [14:06] well , updates are installed , gonna restart and keep fingers crossed [14:07] terror: go on /var/cache/apt/archives/ [14:07] terror: in that folder therea re all packages [14:07] and if you have not clean your system your old packages [14:07] use the filter bar of dolhin [14:07] and see xserver-xorg-video-intel [14:07] it shoudl be one or more packages [14:08] that are old packages and new pacakges [14:08] if you got a bad upgrade you can downgrade it [14:08] by sudo dpkg -i pathtooldpackagedeb [14:08] terror@Aspire-5720Z:/var/cache/apt/archives$ ls | grep intel [14:08] libdrm-intel1_2.4.21-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb [14:08] xserver-xorg-video-intel_2%3a2.12.0-1ubuntu5.1_i386.deb [14:08] so these 2 ?in case of a fail ? [14:09] mm [14:09] should be [14:09] ok Peace , thank you very much , I appreciate your help [14:09] xserver-xorg-video-intel-blablaNUMBER [14:09] xserver-xorg-video-intel-blablaNUMBER+1 [14:10] you shoudl pick the older one if you get problems [14:10] but if you have only one.. [14:10] i guess you have clean your system [14:10] anwyway you can download the old packages [14:10] from live cd [14:10] ok , cool [14:10] thanks , brb (hope it goes well) [14:14] well , seems like the upgrade went well , but kwin still feels slow [14:14] is that common on intel video cards ? [14:22] Hey guys, iv been using MS Office on Wine, now my document is kinda corrupt, how do i fix this? [14:27] !VB mandla [14:27] !VB | mandla [14:27] !virtual [14:27] BluesKaj: Sir? I dnt understand. [14:27] There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications [14:28] BluesKaj: What i need to do is to repair my document coz it is showing boxes. [14:28] MSOffice shouldn't be run in wine , you're better off using Open Office or libreoffice [14:28] hi guys, I have a quick command line interpretation question... after some updates, I'm getting the following feedback: [14:29] mandla,have you tried open office ..it supports most ms office docs [14:30] cdybeijing, ? [14:31] UserWarning: Module anki was already imported from /location/anki/_init_.py, but /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/anki-1.0.1-py2.6.egg is being added to sys.path [14:31] after that, I am getting a runtime warning [14:31] BluesKaj: yah i tried it but its as well displaying boxes. [14:31] I really don't know what happened, only updates I made were system prompted [14:33] there is really a lot of feedback in the command line after I try to run the program, what I typed is only a little [14:34] Hi, after some natty upgrade during the last days, desktop effects no longer can be enabled. when i log in with a new (empty) account, desktop effects are enabled though. i tried removing all kwin config files from my home folder, but it still doesn't allow me to enable desktop effects. does anyone know how i can reset all kwin related stuff? [14:34] cdybeijing, maybe you're missing some repositories or have conflicting package updates from repositories [14:34] Hello [14:34] since the program was working two days ago, I guess I must have a conflict [14:34] Please help me with KMix problem after KDE update 4.4.3->4.5 [14:34] is there a way to check for conflicts? [14:35] weld, ask in ubuntu+1 [14:36] cdybeijing, I use synaptic to repair broken dependencies , it works quite well [14:36] coder2: what's the problem with kmix? [14:36] weld, #ubuntu+1 [14:37] coder2, open alsamixer and check your settings there [14:37] weld: Sound begins when mixer volume reaches 23%. Below 23% it is muted. And 23% sounds loudy [14:39] coder2: oh, i had another problem then:) i could solve mine by deleting the kmix config files [14:39] weld: Where to find those fies? [14:40] 'find -name kmix*' should find them [14:40] BluesKaj: alsamixer works like charm [14:41] BlueKaj: but sound volume icon in the desktop corner belongs KMix. [14:41] weld: thank you. I'll try [14:45] weld: Deleting kmix config files did not help [14:45] cdybeijing, also sudo apt-get check , then if you have a prob , then sudo apt-get check -f [14:46] weld: I think it is connected with pulseaudio somehow [14:46] coder2: have you got a problem with audio card? [14:47] I have got problems with kmix volume control after update KDE from 4.4.3 to 4.5 [14:47] coder2, kmix is just a kde link to alsamixer , if you havbe any M s in the vol ctrls then you have mute tuend on in alsamixer [14:47] coder2: check if you hav pulseaudio installed please [14:47] Peace-: It is installed [14:47] coder2: alsamixer -V all [14:48] coder2: on the konsole please [14:48] what do you see? [14:48] i guess the pulse stuff [14:48] coder2: anyway read this , it's my blog http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/audio-problem-with-kubuntu-10-10/ [14:48] BluesKaj: KMix now references to pulseaudio devices only [14:49] Peace-: I see alsamixer which smothly controls audio levels. [14:49] coder2: or you install some stuff of pulse [14:49] coder2: or you remove pulse [14:50] coder2: read that page you could fix [14:51] Could someone advise how to rollback KDE to 4.4.3 on lucid. I have too much problems with KDE 4.5 [14:51] coder2: first [14:51] coder2: remove the ppa [14:51] coder2: second remove all kde packages [14:52] coder2: then reinstall all kde packages [14:52] are you wonder how ? [14:52] ing [14:52] xD [14:52] coder2: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/ [14:52] Peace-: thank you [14:53] i got no sound in firefox and no sound for flash [14:53] any idea? [14:53] using 4.6 [14:53] florian_: mmm libasound ? [14:53] libasound2 [14:53] guess [14:53] *not sure* [14:54] Peace-: already installed , newest version [14:54] florian_: running firefox on the konsole what did it say? [14:54] does [14:54] :D [14:55] florian_: sound where on flash ? [14:56] Peace-: *** NSPlugin Viewer *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 () in NPN_GetValue() [14:56] on sound for html5 videos either [14:56] no* [14:56] so generally no sound in browsers [14:56] Peace: The page http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/ contains shell command examples, but the examples exceed the page widt [14:58] coder2: :S on chromium is workin fine [14:58] here [14:58] Peace-: well i think its some pulseaudio issue [14:58] Peace-: Firebug works also. :-P [14:59] Peace-: it worked fine yesterday but today i got a new soundcard installed and had to switch output to that device [14:59] florian_: mm alsamixer -V all [14:59] florian_: F6: Select sound card [14:59] html5 video works in reqkonq [15:00] Peace-: yeah, that works fine [15:00] but i got no sound in firefox [15:00] nor flash [15:00] i think its a pulseaudio issue [15:01] somehow pulseaudio sound doesnt get routed to phonon [15:01] florian_: mm go on system settings [15:01] florian_: on multimedia [15:01] florian_: backend ? [15:01] have you what? [15:01] the first thing i do after installing kubuntu is get rid of pulseaudio :p [15:02] moldy: mee too.. [15:02] ok, i changed backend to gstreamer [15:02] florian_: you need pulse? [15:02] only audio output is pulseaudio [15:02] florian_: do you need pulse for some strange stuff like guitar? [15:02] jack jackd? [15:03] if not condiser to remove it.. [15:03] xD [15:03] i suppose not [15:03] florian_: you too read this [15:03]