[00:08] <mhall119> glad to see loco-directory meetings already being used
[00:16] <head_victim> mhall119: is there a dummy account we can play with the meeting function at all?
[00:26] <mhall119> not really
[00:27] <mhall119> head_victim: you can play with it at http://family.ubuntu-fl.org:8000/meetings/
[00:28] <head_victim> mhall119: thanks, I just want to see how easy it will be for people to add agenda items and stuff but don't want to try it on a live team in case people get upset
[00:28] <head_victim> Oh that's a real team is it?
[00:32] <head_victim> mhall119: how does it handle when a meeting is spread across multiple time zones? We can have up to 5 different ones here in summer :/
[00:39] <mhall119> what's a real team?
[00:39] <mhall119> ubuntu-fl?
[00:40] <head_victim> Yeah, or is that a playaround db
[00:40] <mhall119> head_victim: right now all meeting times are UTC
[00:40] <head_victim> Ah ok makes sense.
[00:40] <mhall119> ubuntu-fl is a real team, I'm just using that server to run a test instance of loco-directory
[00:45] <head_victim> mhall119: looks really good. Is there going to be a limit on how long the meetings are held for the the "previous meeting" section or will it stay there indefinitely? (Sorry for all the questions but just asking the questions I know others will want answers for in the team)
[00:45] <mhall119> indefinitely for now
[00:46] <head_victim> Ok cool. We'd started added meetings as "events" in the last couple of months so I guess we should switch to making them meetings now.
[00:46] <head_victim> Thanks for your help
[00:47] <mhall119> yeah, several teams were doing that, which is what spurred us to add the feature
[00:47] <mhall119> that and to assist in generating monthly team reports
[00:48] <head_victim> The only thing I think that would be useful that may or may not already exist is a way to sync that with the drupal team website.
[00:48] <mhall119> there is both an ical feed of team events, as well as a JSON API
[00:48] <head_victim> Yeah we've started team reports recently as well, don't you still have to manually enter the team meeting details (well a link to the loco.u.c site?)
[00:49] <mhall119> we will eventually generate reports from LD
[00:49] <head_victim> Ah sounds good, will definitely have to start using it properly then will make the reporting a lot easier.
[04:40] <nigelb> Good morning
[08:01] <dpm> good morning all
[08:03] <kim0> dpm: Morning
[08:04] <dpm> heya kim0!
[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[08:22] <dpm> hey dholbach!
[08:23] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:26] <dpm> :)
[08:50] <jono> night all
[08:50] <jono> bed for me
[08:50] <dholbach> good night jono
[08:51] <dholbach> jono, when you get up again can we have a quick chat/call?
[08:51] <jono> dholbach, sounds good
[08:52] <dholbach> super
[08:52] <jono> :-)
[12:21] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:21] <duanedesign> woke up to a broken water main in my front yard :\
[12:51] <popey> duanedesign: time to ski!?
[12:54] <duanedesign> haha
[12:55] <duanedesign> popey: I woke up and heard a bunch of running water. I thought its -10c 0.O
[12:56] <duanedesign> they are out there now marking all the buried utilities.
[12:57] <mhall119> good morning
[13:03] <duanedesign> hello mhall119
[13:34] <duanedesign> mr dholbach i am looking for something... I think you might be able to help me find it
[13:34] <dholbach> what is it?
[13:35] <duanedesign> dholbach: I came across it the other day. It was an intrtoduction to Ubuntu Development, I think. It was in bzr
[13:36] <duanedesign> does that sound familiar? sorry for the vague description
[13:36] <dholbach> "bzr branch lp:ubuntu-packaging-guide"?
[13:36]  * duanedesign looking
[13:37] <JanC> dholbach: am I right developer.ubuntu.com should be ready in April ?
[13:37] <dholbach> JanC, I don't know - I'm not working on it
[13:38] <duanedesign> dholbach: excellent! thank you
[13:40] <dholbach> no worries
[13:40] <dholbach>  /away /me takes the dog for a walk
[14:01] <JanC> dholbach__: who would know about the developer portal?  jcastro?
[14:01] <JanC> I guess he won't be online before I leave for FOSDEM...  :-/
[14:01] <jcastro> not me!
[14:01] <jcastro> dev portal is jono
[14:06] <jcastro> dholbach__: do you have time for a quick call today? I need to run some stuff by you
[14:06] <jcastro> closer to your EOD perhaps?
[14:31]  * AlanBell waves bug 713125 at jcastro 
[14:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 713125 in ubuntu-website "broken/wrong SSL certificate on uds.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713125
[14:38]  * jcastro confirms, ta
[14:41] <AlanBell> it is linking to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/ still, but -o isn't that interesting yet I guess
[14:41] <jcastro> yeah that's done at some other level I can't control
[14:41] <jcastro> I think Daviey can though ^^^^
[14:46] <dholbach> jcastro, sure
[17:29] <dholbach> have a great weekend everyone - see you on monday!
[17:29] <JFo> see you dholbach :)
[17:30] <dholbach> see you JFo
[17:30] <JFo> have a great weekend
[17:30] <dholbach> bye :)
[17:31]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[17:31]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[17:36] <popey> boggling at why jono etc are using #ubuntu-meeting and not -classroom and -classroom-chat as usual
[17:37] <jono> popey, yeah, we should have done that
[17:37] <jono> that was a mistake
[17:37] <JFo> wondered that myself :)
[17:37] <doctormo> popey: what were they up to?
[17:37] <popey> Q&A
[17:37] <popey> s/were/are/g
[17:38] <doctormo> Interesting
[17:38] <pleia2> popey: you're on the access list for -meeting - can you op jono?
[17:38] <pleia2> (all members probably should be on the access list, like -classroom)
[17:39] <doctormo> This must be an event I didn't pick up on in the news stream.
[17:39] <JFo> this is a massive pile of fail
[17:39] <JFo> I think it safe to assume Pete won't be open to another of these :)
[17:40] <JFo> think it best to +m the channel at this point
[17:40] <doctormo> The questions are interesting, from the bottom pile of misunderstanding.
[17:40] <jono> JFo, I am trying to find someone to do that
[17:40] <JFo> jono, I can understand your pain :)
[17:41] <jono> popey, can you +m #ubuntu-meeting
[17:42] <akgraner> wow maybe classroom and chat would have been better for these sessions
[17:42] <jono> akgraner, yeah we should have done that
[17:42] <jono> popey, ?
[17:43] <doctormo> jono: Can you move to #ubuntu-classroom now and go from there?
[17:43] <jono> doctormo, that won't solve it will it?
[17:44] <doctormo> pleia2: Do you have the keys for classroom?
[17:44] <jono> is there someone who can +m #ubuntu-classroom
[17:44] <pleia2> doctormo: yep
[17:44] <pleia2> doctormo: all ubuntu members do
[17:44] <pleia2> (if you have a member cloak)
[17:44] <jono> so we can lock it down so just pgraner can speak there?
[17:44] <jono> pleia2, can you do that for us?
[17:45] <pleia2> jono: yes, but you both need to join -classroom first :)
[17:45] <jono> ok let me get him to move there
[17:45] <jono> make it so just he and I can speak
[17:46]  * doctormo cheers for solution
[17:46] <jono> pleia2, ok, we are there
[17:50] <doctormo> Now ubuntu-meeting is locked up.
[17:53] <vish> doctormo: whats up with -meeting? o.0
[17:54] <vish> are we having some classroom session today? why are folks asking Qs in meeting ?
[17:54] <doctormo> vish: there was some confusion
[17:54] <doctormo> it's being fixed
[17:54] <vish> cool! :)
[17:54] <paultag> hello, world! :)
[17:54] <vish> paultag: gettings program! ;)
[17:54] <doctormo> paultag: World not found, perhaps I can offer a substitute?
[17:55] <paultag> vish: hoe goes?
[17:55] <paultag> doctormo: :)
[17:55] <paultag> how *
[17:55] <paultag> my keyboiard has whisky on it
[17:55] <vish> trying out kernel .38 and wondering what weird things it would throw at me..  already found cube acting weird :D
[17:55] <paultag> so it's not playing nice today
[17:55] <paultag> vish: woo :)
[17:56] <JFo> paultag, uh huh, blame it on your keyboard ;)
[17:56] <paultag> JFo: :P
[17:56] <doctormo> I was expecting someone to post a question: "My puppy isn't feeling well after eating an ubuntu cd, what should I do?"
[17:56] <paultag> I just wrote a really angry post on my blog
[17:56] <paultag> and also disabled comments, since they were getting quite mean
[17:56] <paultag> people suck
[17:56] <JFo> paultag, works for me :)
[17:57] <paultag> JFo: how's life for you, man?
[17:57] <JFo> not too bad
[17:57] <doctormo> paultag: people are jerks, also people are awesome.
[17:57] <JFo> paultag, there is plenty of work, that is for sure :)
[17:58] <paultag> doctormo: I have a bloody eye today because of that fact, dude
[17:58] <paultag> JFo: damn skippy
[17:58] <AlanBell> where was the Q&A thing advertised?
[17:59] <doctormo> paultag: your blog post isn't that angry.
[17:59] <paultag> doctormo: http://i.imgur.com/Ef0Ql.jpg  <-- got jacked in the eye
[18:00] <paultag> doctormo: for me it is. I hate rants
[18:00] <doctormo> paultag: Aw, ranting is the only thing I do well on my blog. ;-P
[18:00] <paultag> doctormo: :P
[18:00] <doctormo> Who got you in the eye?
[18:01] <paultag> doctormo: this kid who was getting his ass kicked by my amazing soccer skills
[18:01] <akgraner> AlanBell, on the Fridge, Jono's Blog and You In Ubuntu
[18:01] <doctormo> paultag: I know not this thing you call soccer. Perhaps you mean ice hockey?
[18:01] <JFo> and my tweets and facebook :)
[18:02] <JFo> doctormo, lol
[18:02] <paultag> doctormo: I'd call it football, but I'm american and people would think I'd mean real football
[18:02] <JFo> paultag, he meant to punch you or it was an accident?
[18:02] <paultag> doctormo: because a bloody eye in football ain't anything new
[18:02] <doctormo> paultag: What's real about a bunch of men dancing around on a super small green stage to pre-directed plays?
[18:02] <paultag> JFo: "accident", but he threw a 'bow my way to snag a goal
[18:02] <JFo> ah
[18:03] <paultag> JFo: I had his ass, too
[18:03] <doctormo> cool, good kick up the backside with a boot.
[18:03] <AlanBell> thanks akgraner, it seems to have effectively reached a lot of people who are not that familiar with the topic, which is really interesting
[18:04] <paultag> OK, BRB. I need to clean up my room
[18:04] <doctormo> AlanBell: I found that interesting too, because I didn't hear about it, but plenty of people did.
[18:05] <JFo> I'm actually kind of glad it reached people lacking of clue... I just wish there were some good way to engage them and provide them the way to understanding.
[18:06] <JFo> but in some cases we seem to be separated by language
[18:06] <JFo> in many cases common language :)
[18:06] <JFo> I think we take many terms as granted, but we need to find some way to mitigate that
[18:07] <AlanBell> yes, reaching people without a clue is great, just a kernel Q&A might not be the most gentle intro
[18:07] <Pendulum> maybe start each one out with a quick intro so it's not just "ask me questions"?
[18:08] <jono> thanks doctormo, pleia2 for the help
[18:09] <doctormo> np
[18:09] <JFo> yeah, you guys rock :)
[18:10] <pleia2> you're welcome
[18:15] <doctormo> Looks like most people came from facebook
[18:18] <akgraner> FB from the Ubuntu Feed or Facebook from Ubuntu User Feed or someother source on there
[18:18] <akgraner> (just curious)
[18:19] <doctormo> jono: I've updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WeeklyQandA for you with the new details and a link to the webchat
[18:19] <jono> thanks doctormo!
[18:20] <pleia2> I'll add the future session info to the classroom calendar and blog later too (now -> work)
[18:20]  * Pendulum updates the bit that doctormo didn't notice
[18:21] <jono> thanks pleia2!
[18:26] <AlanBell> so who posts to the ubuntulinux facebook page?
[18:26] <Pendulum> AlanBell: I think jono
[18:26] <AlanBell> looks like anyone posts junk on it's wall, but when the page updates it pops up in people's news feed
[18:28] <doctormo> AlanBell: worth remembering, I wonder how many people have keys to facebook.
[18:29] <AlanBell> yeah, I have been meaning to get a better understanding of what facebook tells me is newsworthy
[19:03] <jono> dinda, can you send me the most recent version of the developer manual?
[19:03] <jono> I want to put it on d.u.c ready for our usability testing on Mon/Tues
[19:06] <jcastro> caffeine refill, bbi 15....
[20:04] <jcastro> mhall119: ok, the sample place has been updated
[20:04] <jcastro> but the docs have not
[20:04] <jcastro> so we're almost sort of starting to get on the way there. :)
[20:04]  * mhall119 will almost sort of start working on it
[20:05] <mhall119> I have to build Qimo 3 alpha 2 this weekend before I do anything else
[20:06] <daker> mhall119, you said that you will write a python api for unity, what this api will do ?
[20:07] <mhall119> daker: I don't know yet
[20:07] <mhall119> probably just copy the Vala API calls
[20:08]  * jcastro nods
[20:08] <mhall119> but something that'll give a higher-level above DBus
[20:08] <jcastro> the place doesn't look that big
[20:08] <daker> or in other way what the actual Vala API do?
[20:10] <mhall119> daker: I'm not entirely sure on that yet either ;)
[20:10] <mhall119> once the Places docs are updated, I might be able to find out
[20:11] <daker> ok
[20:16] <popey> jono / pleia2 sorry, I was on my commute home when you asked.
[22:01] <doctormo> http://icantthinkofaname-09.deviantart.com/art/Natty-Narwhal-196158182