[02:14] <micahg> do telepathy releases qualify for the desktop SRU micro exception?
[02:21] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure about that, seb would know. what does the release change?
[02:23] <micahg> er, feature changes :(, nm
[07:57] <didrocks> good morning
[08:01] <pitti> Good morning
[08:03] <didrocks> Guten Morgen pitti
[08:06] <pitti> hey didrocks
[09:02] <dpm> heya pitti, seeing that the 10.04.2 release is on the 17th Feb, we need to generate new Lucid language packs. Here's a proposal:
[09:02] <dpm> As there isn't much time left if we want to have time to regenerate them if there is any problem,
[09:02] <dpm> I think I should request a full export today.
[09:03] <dpm> That would mean the PPA is built on Saturday and on Monday we can upload to -proposed and announce the testing period to translators
[09:03] <dpm> Does that sound ok? If we want to give people ~a week to test them, what would be the latest day we could upload them to -updates?
[09:17] <pitti> hi dpm (sorry, talking to other folks ATM)
[09:17] <pitti> dpm: that sounds good indeed, yes
[09:21] <dpm> pitti, thanks :) So what do you think of the last part, which would be the deadline for the upload to -proposed? Say, if we start testing on the 7th, would the deadline for the upload (and thus the end of testing) sound feasible as the 14th or the 16th?
[09:21] <dpm> err s/-proposed/-updates/
[09:24] <TLE> hey guys
[09:24] <pitti> actually even the 14th sounds a little late
[09:24] <pitti> dpm: can we discuss in #ubuntu-release?
[09:25] <dpm> pitti, sure, coming over
[10:40] <kklimonda> seb128: btw, you ran off yesterday before I've answered your question about glom - it has been updated to 1.16.2, which is the latest stable version.
[10:40] <kklimonda> good mornig
[10:40] <kklimonda> morning even
[10:40] <kklimonda> damn keyboard
[10:41] <ricotz> njpatel, hello :)
[10:42] <ricotz> njpatel, have you looked into this yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/674320
[10:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 674320 in bamf "indicator-applet-appmenu crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_free()" [Medium,New]
[10:51] <njpatel> ricotz, oh, not yet but that doesn't look good :/ WIll assign and milestone
[10:52] <ricotz> njpatel, i added a stracktrace
[10:53] <njpatel> thanks
[10:53] <ricotz> njpatel, can you say if this a bamf problem for sure?
[10:54] <njpatel> ricotz, I'm not 100% sure, will ask DBO to look at it
[10:54] <njpatel> and ted
[10:54] <ricotz> njpatel, or might this be caused by a inproper unref in our application because we are holding bamf.application objects?
[10:55] <njpatel> ricotz, all bamf objects should never be reffed/unrefed
[10:55] <njpatel> ricotz, the allocation/descrution needs to be handled by libbamf and only libbamf, otherwise bamf get's into a weird stat
[10:55] <njpatel> state*
[10:55] <ricotz> njpatel, ok
[10:58] <ricotz> njpatel, on the other hand it seems not to be reproducable on maverick with bamf 0.2.58
[10:58] <ricotz> (in our case)
[10:58] <njpatel> ricotz, bamf has changed a lot, so could just be a valid bug
[10:59] <ricotz> njpatel, alright, thanks
[11:00] <ricotz> njpatel, btw it would be great if the packaging would build *.gir and *.vapi again
[11:05] <didrocks> (would be great if it built again ;))
[11:05] <didrocks> ricotz: I'll try to readd them for next release now that the gir stack is in a better shape
[11:07] <ricotz> didrocks, ok ;), but it might need some annotation fixes in the source first
[11:20] <jibel_> didrocks, Hi, the invisible window in unity is back but this time the geometry is -geometry 551x366+0+0
[11:20] <didrocks> jibel_: not the same bug this time, it's a compiz bug
[11:21] <didrocks> jibel_: it can be whatever window you launch
[11:21] <jibel_> didrocks, okay, I'll file a new report then.
[11:21] <didrocks> jibel_: it is already filed
[11:22] <jibel_> didrocks, bug number ?
[11:22] <didrocks> (maybe the qa team should have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-02-01 btw, I tend to notice there important regression)
[11:22] <didrocks> jibel_: bug #709461
[11:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709461 in unity "semi-random invisible window with x geometry on top layer possible, all viewport only (one ws though)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709461
[11:22] <jibel_> didrocks, thanks.
[11:22] <didrocks> it's in smspillaz's plate now
[11:22] <jibel_> :)
[11:23] <didrocks> yw :)
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> pitti - what arch are you running on?
[12:09] <chrisccoulson> hi btw :)
[12:11] <seb128> re
[12:12] <didrocks> re seb128
[12:12] <seb128> re didrocks
[12:12] <seb128> kklimonda, ok
[12:13] <seb128> chrisccoulson, he's on amd64 usually
[12:14] <chrisccoulson> oh, that's good, thanks
[12:15] <chrisccoulson> pitti - i put a new version of globalmenu-extension in http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/globalmenu-extension/ (the PPA version didn't build yet)
[12:15] <chrisccoulson> if you feel like testing, to see if it stops your crashes
[12:17] <pitti> chrisccoulson: ooh, I will
[12:17] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[12:17] <pitti> chrisccoulson: right now I'm back to GNOME and metacity anyway, as the compiz bugs just drive me up teh wall
[12:18] <chrisccoulson> yeah, they are driving me up the wall too ;)
[12:18] <pitti> I'm not sure whether ffox crashes with "internal" menu as well
[12:18] <chrisccoulson> pitti - oh, it shouldn't do, if your crash is any of the ones i fixed already
[12:18] <chrisccoulson> they should only occur if the menu loads
[12:19] <pitti> I'll switch back once the new plugin arrives then
[12:19] <pitti> thanks!
[13:52]  * kenvandine waves
[13:52] <kenvandine> hey seb128, can you promote ubuntu-geoip and geoclue?
[13:52] <kenvandine> indicator-datetime is in
[13:53] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[13:53] <seb128> kenvandine, oh right
[13:54]  * kenvandine does the finally dance
[13:54] <kenvandine> and yay libindicate is building now :)
[13:55]  * bcurtiswx_ waves to room
[13:58] <seb128> hey bcurtiswx
[13:59] <bcurtiswx_> hey seb128, its Friday!! :D
[13:59] <seb128> indeed!
[14:01] <kenvandine> arg!  now that libindicate i386 build is getting past the non-installable python-gtk2-dev, it is failing in gir compiling!
[14:01] <kenvandine> wtf, the other arches worked fine
[14:05] <nessita> hello everyone, happy friday!
[14:05] <kenvandine> happy friday to you too nessita!
[14:05] <nessita> thanks :-)
[14:06] <seb128> hey nessita, happy friday!
[14:06] <didrocks> hey nessita :-)
[14:07]  * didrocks takes the train to FOSDEM and waves goodbye
[14:07] <pitti> didrocks: have fun, bye!
[14:07] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy!
[14:07] <didrocks> pitti,  seb128 : thanks, enjoy your week-end!
[14:07] <kenvandine> have fun didrocks
[14:07] <seb128> kenvandine, btw what happened to eds calendar integration?
[14:07] <kenvandine> seb128, it was late
[14:07] <seb128> kenvandine, wasn't that going to land?
[14:08] <kenvandine> karl has it now
[14:08] <kenvandine> needs to be merged
[14:08] <kenvandine> he hit too many bugs
[14:08] <seb128> hum, people are saying that for 2 weeks now
[14:08] <seb128> we need to land it at some point and see the bugs
[14:08] <kenvandine> yeah... we'll see what ted says when he reviews it this time :)
[14:08] <kenvandine> speaking of eds bugs
[14:09] <kenvandine> anyone know how to make evolution show mail when it gets in some hosed state?
[14:09] <bcurtiswx_> gcc -g -O2 -g -O2  does that mean i'm compiling with GTK2 ?
[14:09] <kenvandine> send/recieve is fine
[14:09] <kenvandine> but i keep getting "generating message list"
[14:09] <kenvandine> in all my accounts and mailboxes
[14:09] <seb128> evolution --force-shutdown?
[14:09] <seb128> ;-)
[14:09] <pitti> bcurtiswx_: how are optimization options related to GTK?
[14:09] <kenvandine> i even rebooted
[14:09] <kenvandine> it has been like this since yesterday afternoon
[14:09] <seb128> bcurtiswx_, no
[14:09] <kenvandine> i get to any mail, besides from my phone :)
[14:09] <seb128> bcurtiswx_, it means you are compiling with the optimization=2 in gcc
[14:10]  * bcurtiswx_ has his new learned thing today.. its early too :(
[14:10] <bcurtiswx_> lol
[14:10] <seb128> kenvandine, try #evolution on irc.gnome.org
[14:10] <kenvandine> s/i get/i can't get/
[14:10] <kenvandine> ok
[14:10] <kenvandine> never got it in this state before
[14:10] <seb128> it's weird
[14:12] <kenvandine> i imagine the sqlite message cache is hosed
[14:15] <dobey> kenvandine, seb128, pitti: do you know if there's an appropriate irc channel to discuss automake issues, so i can determine if this is a viable bug to fix or if i have to do some insanity to work around?
[14:15] <pitti> dobey: I don't know, sorry
[14:15] <seb128> dobey, you can try asking on #ubuntu-devel
[14:15] <kenvandine> dobey, dunno
[14:16] <dobey> hmm, ok
[14:16] <seb128> there is people who know about it there
[14:16] <seb128> kenvandine, not sure why libindicate is failed to build but what you do is weird
[14:17] <dobey> thanks
[14:18] <seb128> kenvandine, hum, it's not you, it's cdbs
[14:18] <kenvandine> seb128, it built on the other arches
[14:18] <kenvandine> are you looking at the buildlog?
[14:18] <seb128> kenvandine, it's failing in the dh_girepository for the cil
[14:18] <kenvandine> dpkg-shlibdeps is failing on the typelib
[14:18] <seb128> which is built only on i386
[14:19] <kenvandine> no... that isn't what i am seeing
[14:19] <seb128> "dh_girepository -plibindicate0.1-cil-dev
[14:19] <seb128> dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libindicate-gtk.so.2 needed by debian/gir1.2-indicate-gtk-0.5/usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Indicate-Gtk-0.5.typelib.so (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '').
[14:19] <seb128> Note: libraries are not searched in other binary packages that do not have any shlibs or symbols file."
[14:19] <seb128> is the build log
[14:19] <seb128> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/63545343/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.libindicate_0.4.92-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:19] <seb128> it shouldn't call it on the cil to start
[14:19] <seb128> that's cdbs doing it
[14:19] <kenvandine> oh... why that package?
[14:19] <seb128> it calls it on all the binaries
[14:20] <kenvandine> ugh
[14:20] <seb128> that's a stupid thing to do
[14:20] <kenvandine> never been a problem before, maybe cdbs has changed?
[14:21] <seb128> it's a new feature in the current cdbs
[14:21] <seb128> but it's not very new
[14:21] <seb128> ideally it should not fail, not sure what is wrong there
[14:21] <seb128> could be a binary build order
[14:21] <seb128> like the cil build built before the libindicate-gtk binary
[14:22] <seb128> but calling dh_girepository on all binaries is asking for issuers
[14:22] <seb128> issues
[14:23] <kenvandine> i hate build order problems
[14:23] <seb128> don't tell me
[14:26] <seb128> kenvandine, not sure it's that, I said could be, random guess
[14:33] <chrisccoulson> mterry, are you seeing issues with unity-panel-service locking up when changing window focus?
[14:33] <mterry> chrisccoulson, no
[14:33] <chrisccoulson> it keeps getting stuck in the while loop in active_window_changed in indicator-appmenu here
[14:39] <mterry> chrisccoulson, interesting
[14:39] <mterry> chrisccoulson, that while loop looks like trouble
[14:39] <chrisccoulson> mterry, yeah, that's what i thought when i looked at it ;)
[14:40] <mterry> chrisccoulson, so I did change some code that made it more likely we would correctly remove xid entries from that table
[14:40] <mterry> chrisccoulson, you can check the recent bzr commits for it
[14:41] <mterry> chrisccoulson, but that should only have been if the window died.  But there can obviously be some race
[14:41] <seb128> mterry, there was no commit since the tarball yesterday
[14:41] <mterry> seb128, yeah should be in the tarball
[14:41] <seb128> or do you mean it could be due to one of your recent changes?
[14:41] <seb128> ok, gotcha
[14:42] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand just got the issue too
[14:42] <seb128> oh, nice, the launchpad summary reference the merged vcs-es now
[14:42] <mterry> chrisccoulson, commit 95
[14:43] <mterry> chrisccoulson, this makes it so that whenever bamf tells us a window died, we remove it from the table.  Sounds like we removed such a window then you tried to switch to either that same window or one with the same xid (that we didn't add back to the table somehow)
[14:43] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i'll have a look in a bit
[14:44] <chrisccoulson> i'm on patch pilot duties today ;)
[14:44] <seb128> chrisccoulson, where are the uploads? ;-)
[14:44] <seb128> go chrisccoulson go !
[14:45] <chrisccoulson> seb128 -i'm just about to do one, but i rejected one because of some mistakes, and then spent quite a long time trying to help the individual ;)
[14:46] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I see at least 5 you can upload on the list
[14:46] <seb128> so no excuse about not having upload rights today ;-)
[14:47] <chrisccoulson> lol
[14:47] <seb128> well if ari stop pinging you about his own bugs before the end of the day ;-)
[14:48] <Laney> yeah feel free to tell him to wait in line ;)
[14:50] <bcurtiswx_> aww boo, LP's timing out on me
[14:51] <chrisccoulson> that's normal isn't it?
[14:52] <bcurtiswx_> not usually for me... does that mean I'm lucky?
[15:10] <ricotz> bcurtiswx_, do you have a running gnome3 stack?
[15:11] <bcurtiswx_> ricotz, no.
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> maaan, python-scipy takes forever to build
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> i wish i hadn't picked that off the sponsor list ;)
[15:11] <ricotz> bcurtiswx_, ok, i was just curious ;)
[15:13] <seb128> chrisccoulson, there is quite some easy desktop items there
[15:13] <seb128> chrisccoulson, but you can do something while it builds ;-)
[15:17] <dpm> pitti, now that the freeze is over, could you please reenable the Natty langpack uploads, unless you've done it already? Perhaps we can have a look at the po2xpi issues with chrisccoulson next week
[15:17] <seb128> go chrisccoulson go!
[15:17] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[15:17] <chrisccoulson> b'ah, i've just had another firefox crash :(
[15:18] <chrisccoulson> with all my extension crash fixes in
[15:18] <chrisccoulson> it's going to be a long day ;)
[15:18] <seb128> if that's any consolation fiefox didn't crash this cycle here
[15:18] <seb128> hum, "firefox"
[15:19] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - are you running my extension?
[15:20] <seb128> no
[15:20] <seb128> I like things when they are stable
[15:20] <seb128> no offense ;-)
[15:21] <seb128> joke aside you didn't clearly say that it was ready for testing
[15:22] <seb128> or if you needed testing
[15:22] <seb128> so I figured I would wait for that rather than running a version known to be buggy when it would annoy me and not bring extra useful info to you
[15:22] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - oh, it's ready for testing :)
[15:22] <chrisccoulson> what arch are you on?
[15:23] <seb128> k, will try it then ;-)
[15:23] <seb128> i386
[15:23] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok. so, the version currently in my PPA is ok to test. i did upload a new version last night that didn't build (because of a tbird issue)
[15:23] <chrisccoulson> but i'll fix that just now
[15:23] <seb128> k
[15:24] <seb128> well, I will let you focus on fixing the bug jdstrand is having before annoying you with firefox ;-)
[15:24] <seb128> between piloting and that I guess you have enough for today
[15:25] <seb128> ;-)
[15:26] <chrisccoulson> i think jdstrand is having the same bug as me, where unity-panel-service spins in a loop
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> that basically takes down the whole desktop, as all the applications talking to the panel freeze and crash
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> which is pretty bad ;)
[15:30] <chrisccoulson> ok, tbird fixed and python-scipy uploaded
[15:30] <chrisccoulson> i'll look at this evince patch now
[15:30] <chrisccoulson> after restarting, my session is a mess now
[15:39] <rickspencer3> seb128, hey, pgraner is saying that his desktop is pretty trashed today
[15:39] <rickspencer3> is that common?
[15:39] <rickspencer3> sounds like neither compiz nor metacity are working very well, crashing and such
[15:39] <seb128> rickspencer3, not that we know about no
[15:40] <rickspencer3> ok
[15:41] <rickspencer3> he's trying to replicate, I told him to come here to get bugs logged if he's still ahving issues
[15:41] <rickspencer3> thanks seb128
[15:41] <seb128> you're welcome
[15:41] <seb128> right, better to discuss the issues on the channel
[15:41] <seb128> not easy to say what's going on without extra details
[15:42] <seb128> chrisccoulson has been running into some indicator-appmenu issues today
[15:42] <seb128> but otherwise things are ok
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> oh, my firefox crasher was an easy fix
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> i missed a bit when i thought i'd fixed it before :/
[15:49] <seb128> kklimonda, what's up with https://code.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/glibmm2.4/packaging/+merge/48582?
[15:51] <dpm> hey ronoc, quick question: what's the best way to restart the sound indicator?. It just died on me
[15:51] <ronoc> dpm, hmm what happened ?
[15:52] <ronoc> curious cause I haven't got any new bugs since the last release
[15:52] <ronoc> killall unity-panel-service
[15:52] <ronoc> should restart all the indicators
[15:52] <seb128> well indicators should auto restart no?
[15:52] <ronoc> seb128, true yes they should
[15:53] <seb128> I sometimes got issues where I need to stop the service
[15:53] <seb128> it seems to get in a buggy state
[15:53] <seb128> yesterday the sound indicator was displayed as muted until I restarted the service
[15:53] <dpm> ronoc, I don't know, it just died when entering the session this morning. I didn't bother much about it, but now I need to do a call and I do need sound :)
[15:54] <ronoc> seb128, weird, I haven't seen any of these
[15:54] <ronoc> dpm, is pulse running
[15:54] <ronoc> seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/709371
[15:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 709371 in indicator-sound "refactor pulse manager" [Medium,In progress]
[15:54] <ronoc> will land this afternoon
[15:55] <ronoc> dpm, can you run gonem-volume-control from command line
[15:55] <ronoc> without the pop up "waiting for sound server"
[15:55] <dpm> ronoc, no, I get exactly that popup
[15:55] <ronoc> dpm, ah well then pulse has died on you (the indicator is just reflecting the broken state of the audio)
[15:56] <ronoc> okay so
[15:56] <ronoc> we need some logs
[15:56]  * ronoc finds wiki page
[15:58] <ronoc> dpm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log
[15:58] <dpm> ronoc, I need the sound in some minutes, so I think I'll just log out and back in. Sorry... I promise that next time I'll provide the logs :)
[15:58] <ronoc> dpm, no worries
[16:13] <seb128> kenvandine, tedg: oh, libindicate
[16:13] <seb128> "dh_girepository: dpkg-shlibdeps -pgir -Tdebian/gir1.2-indicate-gtk-0.5.substvars -xlibc6 -xlibc0 debian/gir1.2-indicate-gtk-0.5/usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Indicate-Gtk-0.5.typelib.so returned exit code 2"
[16:13] <seb128> " dpkg-shlibdeps -pgir" seems wrong
[16:14] <seb128> kenvandine, could it be the rules "binary-predeb/gir%::"?
[16:14] <kenvandine> no
[16:14] <tedg> seb128, kenvandine was saying that he thinks that's an issue with the order of the builds?
[16:14] <seb128> kenvandine, try dropping the rules snippet
[16:14] <kenvandine> i already removed that
[16:14] <seb128> how does it fail then?
[16:14] <kenvandine> still failing
[16:14] <kenvandine> same error
[16:14] <kenvandine> well
[16:14] <seb128> kenvandine, can you join #debian-gnome or oftc?
[16:14] <kenvandine> one sec
[16:14] <kenvandine> sure
[16:32] <seb128> kenvandine, let's go back to there for ubuntu issues
[16:32] <seb128> kenvandine, I diffed the i386 and amd64 logs
[16:32] <seb128> the only different is pygobject and libdbusmenu basically
[16:32] <seb128> neither of those seem like they could be an issue for that build error
[16:34] <kenvandine> seb128, built locally fine
[16:34] <kenvandine> for amd64
[16:34] <fta> tedg, hi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/562622/
[16:34] <seb128> kenvandine, bah
[16:34] <seb128> kenvandine, and amd64 pbuilder?
[16:34] <kenvandine> building now
[16:36] <kenvandine> pitti, gwibber is now crashing the same way pithos is
[16:36] <pitti> hey kenvandine
[16:36] <kenvandine> not much of a traceback... but "Bus error"
[16:36] <kenvandine> doesn't crash with the downgraded pygobject
[16:36] <pitti> kenvandine: probably similar to bug 713115  and bug 713172
[16:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 713115 in pygobject "[natty] virt-manager no longer starts with recent updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713115
[16:36] <ubot2> pitti: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/713172)
[16:36] <pitti> kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/pygtk/+bug/713115/comments/4 FYI
[16:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 713115 in pygobject "[natty] virt-manager no longer starts with recent updates" [High,In progress]
[16:37] <kenvandine> ok
[16:37] <pitti> kenvandine: so I have a workaround, but I want to debug the real bug a bit more before I roll back the mem leak fix
[16:37] <kenvandine> pitti, sure, no worries
[16:37]  * kenvandine has plenty to deal with now with libindicate
[16:38] <kenvandine> man this isn't how i wanted to spend my friday :(
[16:39] <tedg> fta, Can you install the dbusmenu-gtk symbols?
[16:39] <kenvandine> seb128, oh great news...
[16:40] <kenvandine> it is now failing on amd64 in pbuilder!
[16:40]  * kenvandine looks at natty-changes again
[16:40] <seb128> kenvandine, oh, was it working yesterday?
[16:40] <kenvandine> yes
[16:40] <kenvandine> and it built in the archive last night
[16:40] <seb128> kenvandine, you tried in pbuilder?
[16:40] <kenvandine> yes
[16:40] <seb128> hum
[16:41] <kenvandine> roughly 20 hours ago
[16:41] <fta> tedg, sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562624/
[16:41] <seb128> kenvandine,
[16:41] <seb128> -Setting up libsqlite3-0 (3.7.4-2ubuntu2) ...
[16:41] <seb128> +Setting up libsqlite3-0 (3.7.4-2) ...
[16:41] <seb128> +Setting up python2.6 (2.6.6-6ubuntu5) ...
[16:41] <seb128> +Setting up libpython2.6 (2.6.6-6ubuntu5) ...
[16:41] <seb128>  Setting up libpython2.7 (2.7.1-3) ...
[16:41] <seb128> -Setting up python-gobject (2.27.0+git20110131-0ubuntu5) ...
[16:41] <seb128> +Setting up python-gobject (2.27.0+git20110131-0ubuntu2) ...
[16:42] <kenvandine> very useful
[16:42] <seb128> kenvandine, those and libdbusmenu
[16:42] <pitti> latest pygobject drops the libpython2.6 dependency again, in case it gets in the way
[16:42] <seb128> they are the diff between the amd64 and i386 builds from launchpad
[16:42] <pitti> kenvandine: if you need a working pygobject right now, say the word and I'll upload the memory leak again to fix the crashes
[16:43] <kenvandine> pitti, can you just push a branch or something?
[16:43] <kenvandine> i can drop it in my results dir so it gets picked up in my build
[16:43] <kenvandine> but i have 2.27.0+git20110131-0ubuntu5 locally installed and it builds
[16:43] <pitti> kenvandine: I have a patch (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hamster-applet/+bug/713135/+attachment/1829548/+files/pygobject-revert-refleak.patch)
[16:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 713135 in hamster-applet "hamster-applet crashed with OperationalError in execute(): no such module: fts3" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[16:44] <pitti> kenvandine: but how would that or a branch help you?
[16:44] <seb128> kenvandine, well it might just be using the system libindicate-gtk2
[16:44] <kenvandine> true
[16:44] <kenvandine> let me grab that
[16:44] <kenvandine> pitti, i can just build the fix locally and let pbuilder use that version
[16:45] <kenvandine> i have a hook to use a local repo
[16:45] <pitti> kenvandine: ah
[16:45] <pitti> kenvandine: just adding that to debian/patches and series should work; I created it against upstream git head, which doesn't have .c changes compared to our snapshot
[16:46] <kenvandine> ok
[16:47] <seb128> mterry, pitti: is bug #689821 fixed now?
[16:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 689821 in gobject-introspection "Nested types should be allowed in aliases" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689821
[16:48] <seb128> the upstream bug has a comment indicating it could the same issue than another one which has been closed
[16:49] <kenvandine> pitti,   libpython2.6: Depends: python2.6 (= 2.6.6-6ubuntu4) but 2.6.6-6ubuntu5 is to be installed.
[16:49] <kenvandine>   python2.6-dev: Depends: python2.6 (= 2.6.6-6ubuntu4) but 2.6.6-6ubuntu5 is to be installed.
[16:49] <mterry> seb128, I haven't tried that code in a while, not sure
[16:49] <kenvandine> i assume just bump that?
[16:49] <kenvandine> or actuallyu drop it right?
[16:50] <pitti> kenvandine: meh? why do you have non-matching python binaries/libraries?
[16:50] <kenvandine> that is from pbuilder
[16:50] <pitti> kenvandine: current python-gobject in the archive doesn't link against libpython2.6 any more at all
[16:50] <pitti> ah, but you would have python-all-dev
[16:51] <pitti> but still this looks unrelated
[16:52] <seb128> kenvandine, the dh_ utility are in perl, still it seems weird that one of those updates would break things
[16:55] <bcurtiswx_> when someone gets a sec, can you tell me if the sound preferences work for you
[16:56] <rickspencer3> bcurtiswx they work for me
[16:56] <bcurtiswx_> rickspencer3, thx
[16:59] <seb128> pitti, you should upload the commit revert for now imho
[17:00] <seb128> no point to break users systems over the we
[17:00] <pitti> ok
[17:00] <seb128> especially if you have a way to test locally to work on fixing gtk
[17:00] <pitti> I can still replicate it against upstream git head then
[17:00] <pitti> seb128: yes, I do
[17:01] <seb128> well it seems you don't win much from keeping the breaking version then
[17:01] <seb128> out of having a strong reminder that users get hit by the issue ;-)
[17:03] <pitti> and figuring out what breaks
[17:04] <pitti> but I guess we have enough on the "to fix" plate for now
[17:04] <pitti> building and testing now
[17:04] <seb128> pitti, right, I mean once you fix the obvious breakages put it back
[17:05] <pitti> *nod*
[17:07] <tedg> fta, this should fix that: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/dbusmenu/take-unref/+merge/48629
[17:11] <kenvandine> tedg, should i distro patch that?
[17:11] <tedg> kenvandine, Uhm probably wouldn't hurt if you're up for it.
[17:11] <kenvandine> not worth doing  a release for but seems like something we need
[17:11] <kenvandine> sure
[17:11] <seb128> is that a bug or an issue which will show out of warnings?
[17:12] <seb128> what we need is a fix for chrisccoulson's issue
[17:12] <kenvandine> seb128, that fixes a crash fta was getting
[17:13] <seb128> fta, didn't see to be a crash
[17:13] <seb128> it just made it break on warning to get a stacktrace
[17:13] <kenvandine> oh
[17:13] <seb128> but yeah, doesn't hurt to backport it
[17:14] <fta> kenvandine, confirmed it doesn't crash. but please take it as those warnings are polluting the terminal, bad for developers
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> tedg / kenvandine - if seb128 didn't mention already, i'm getting a frequent hang in unity-panel-service
[17:16] <kenvandine> fta, i will
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> it's spinning in the while loop in active_window_changed in indicator-appmenu, when i change window focus
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> i haven't had time to properly look at it yet
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> but it crashes other apps too :(
[17:16] <seb128> tedg, ^
[17:20] <tedg> chrisccoulson, Are you looking at it properly now?  (wait, is is the weekend there?)
[17:20] <chrisccoulson> it's not the weekend yet? ;)
[17:20] <chrisccoulson> nearly though :-)
[17:20] <kenvandine> all the more reason to get it fixed asap :)
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> i'm going to sponsor one more patch, and then i'll be back on to normal duties :)
[17:25] <kenvandine> seb128, pitti: the pygobject patch doesn't fix the libindicate build
[17:27]  * kenvandine tries dbusmenu
[17:30] <seb128> kenvandine, did you get a dh_verbose=1 log as pochu asked before?
[17:30] <seb128> still seems weird that one of those updates broke it
[17:30] <kenvandine> no, i will
[17:30]  * kenvandine goes to eat first... starved today!
[17:30] <kenvandine> bbiab
[17:47] <pitti> good night everyone! have a nice weekend
[17:47] <seb128> pitti, thanks, you as well!
[18:17] <desrt> mterry: hey
[18:17] <desrt> mterry: did your tests finish?
[18:17] <mterry> desrt, yeah, commented on the bug.  Ran suite twice, didn't hit it
[18:17] <mterry> desrt, hit it about once per run before
[18:18] <desrt> so that's good news, i guess
[18:18] <desrt> i'll have a release ready to go for monday
[18:18] <desrt> then i can start breaking new stuff with my rewrite of the service :)
[18:20] <mterry> desrt, heh
[18:35] <seb128> re
[18:35] <seb128> micahg, you don't need that diff on pidgin-facebookchat
[18:36] <seb128> we can make pidgin conflicts on older version
[18:36] <seb128> though it will maybe not resolve all partial upgrade cases
[18:37] <micahg> seb128: older version of what?
[18:38] <seb128> we can make pidgin-data conflicts on pidgin-facebookchat version older than the fixed one
[18:38] <micahg> seb128: yes, but that won't help if people backport pidgin-facebookchat
[18:38] <seb128> but that would not solve the case where people upgrade pidgin-fbc without pidgin
[18:38] <seb128> right
[18:38] <seb128> ignore what I said then ;-)
[18:38] <seb128> kklimonda, there?
[18:39] <micahg> seb128: can you sync the "official" pidgin fix from Debian or should I propose a merge over the weekend?
[18:40] <seb128> micahg, "sync" like in "merge on debian"?
[18:40] <seb128> can do but I will not today
[18:40] <seb128> let's wait for next week rather
[18:40] <micahg> seb128: yeah, I thought we don't have a diff except the epoch
[18:40] <seb128> we have quite some diff
[18:40] <seb128> lpi for example
[18:40] <micahg> orly?
[18:40] <seb128> or tweaked depends to not pull things from universe
[18:41] <micahg> seb128: I'd be happy to propose a merge
[18:41] <seb128> micahg, ok, feel free to do that
[18:41] <xman> hi !!!
[18:41] <seb128> micahg, thanks
[18:41] <seb128> xman, hi
[18:41] <micahg> thanks seb128
[18:42] <xman> do you know a way to change desktop icon size?
[18:45] <seb128> xman, try #ubuntu for user questions
[18:45] <xman> ok thanks
[21:09] <kklimonda> seb128: hmm.. here :)
[21:09] <seb128> kklimonda, hey
[21:09] <seb128> kklimonda, why did you open a merge request for glibmm today?
[21:10] <seb128> kklimonda, shouldn't you rather set the vcs in the control to the gnomemm team and commit there?
[21:10] <seb128> not sure why those have not been moved to the new team yet...
[21:12] <kklimonda> seb128: good point - I think we have missed the last part of the process - i.e. sponsorshipt. If I upload branch to gnomemm, I don't have to merge it, so how do I ask for sponsorship so it can be uploaded?
[21:13] <seb128> kklimonda, open a bug tagged desktop-upgrade
[21:13] <kklimonda> (or I may have missed this part somehow)
[21:13] <seb128> so it shows on the version summary
[21:13] <kklimonda> ah, here we go :)
[21:13] <seb128> or use the "open a bug" url on the version lit directly
[21:13] <seb128> you can subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug as well
[21:14] <kklimonda> *nods*
[23:01] <bcurtiswx_> vish, are you still around?