[02:14] do telepathy releases qualify for the desktop SRU micro exception? [02:21] i'm not sure about that, seb would know. what does the release change? [02:23] er, feature changes :(, nm === asac_ is now known as asac [07:57] good morning [08:01] Good morning [08:03] Guten Morgen pitti [08:06] hey didrocks === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [09:02] heya pitti, seeing that the 10.04.2 release is on the 17th Feb, we need to generate new Lucid language packs. Here's a proposal: [09:02] As there isn't much time left if we want to have time to regenerate them if there is any problem, [09:02] I think I should request a full export today. [09:03] That would mean the PPA is built on Saturday and on Monday we can upload to -proposed and announce the testing period to translators [09:03] Does that sound ok? If we want to give people ~a week to test them, what would be the latest day we could upload them to -updates? [09:17] hi dpm (sorry, talking to other folks ATM) [09:17] dpm: that sounds good indeed, yes [09:21] pitti, thanks :) So what do you think of the last part, which would be the deadline for the upload to -proposed? Say, if we start testing on the 7th, would the deadline for the upload (and thus the end of testing) sound feasible as the 14th or the 16th? [09:21] err s/-proposed/-updates/ [09:24] hey guys [09:24] actually even the 14th sounds a little late [09:24] dpm: can we discuss in #ubuntu-release? [09:25] pitti, sure, coming over [10:40] seb128: btw, you ran off yesterday before I've answered your question about glom - it has been updated to 1.16.2, which is the latest stable version. [10:40] good mornig [10:40] morning even [10:40] damn keyboard [10:41] njpatel, hello :) [10:42] njpatel, have you looked into this yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/674320 [10:42] Launchpad bug 674320 in bamf "indicator-applet-appmenu crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_free()" [Medium,New] [10:51] ricotz, oh, not yet but that doesn't look good :/ WIll assign and milestone [10:52] njpatel, i added a stracktrace [10:53] thanks [10:53] njpatel, can you say if this a bamf problem for sure? [10:54] ricotz, I'm not 100% sure, will ask DBO to look at it [10:54] and ted [10:54] njpatel, or might this be caused by a inproper unref in our application because we are holding bamf.application objects? [10:55] ricotz, all bamf objects should never be reffed/unrefed [10:55] ricotz, the allocation/descrution needs to be handled by libbamf and only libbamf, otherwise bamf get's into a weird stat [10:55] state* [10:55] njpatel, ok [10:58] njpatel, on the other hand it seems not to be reproducable on maverick with bamf 0.2.58 [10:58] (in our case) [10:58] ricotz, bamf has changed a lot, so could just be a valid bug [10:59] njpatel, alright, thanks [11:00] njpatel, btw it would be great if the packaging would build *.gir and *.vapi again [11:05] (would be great if it built again ;)) [11:05] ricotz: I'll try to readd them for next release now that the gir stack is in a better shape [11:07] didrocks, ok ;), but it might need some annotation fixes in the source first [11:20] didrocks, Hi, the invisible window in unity is back but this time the geometry is -geometry 551x366+0+0 [11:20] jibel_: not the same bug this time, it's a compiz bug [11:21] jibel_: it can be whatever window you launch [11:21] didrocks, okay, I'll file a new report then. [11:21] jibel_: it is already filed [11:22] didrocks, bug number ? [11:22] (maybe the qa team should have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2011-02-01 btw, I tend to notice there important regression) [11:22] jibel_: bug #709461 [11:22] Launchpad bug 709461 in unity "semi-random invisible window with x geometry on top layer possible, all viewport only (one ws though)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709461 [11:22] didrocks, thanks. [11:22] it's in smspillaz's plate now [11:22] :) [11:23] yw :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:08] pitti - what arch are you running on? [12:09] hi btw :) [12:11] re [12:12] re seb128 [12:12] re didrocks [12:12] kklimonda, ok [12:13] chrisccoulson, he's on amd64 usually [12:14] oh, that's good, thanks [12:15] pitti - i put a new version of globalmenu-extension in http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/globalmenu-extension/ (the PPA version didn't build yet) [12:15] if you feel like testing, to see if it stops your crashes [12:17] chrisccoulson: ooh, I will [12:17] thanks [12:17] chrisccoulson: right now I'm back to GNOME and metacity anyway, as the compiz bugs just drive me up teh wall [12:18] yeah, they are driving me up the wall too ;) [12:18] I'm not sure whether ffox crashes with "internal" menu as well [12:18] pitti - oh, it shouldn't do, if your crash is any of the ones i fixed already [12:18] they should only occur if the menu loads [12:19] I'll switch back once the new plugin arrives then [12:19] thanks! === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:52] * kenvandine waves [13:52] hey seb128, can you promote ubuntu-geoip and geoclue? [13:52] indicator-datetime is in [13:53] kenvandine, hey [13:53] kenvandine, oh right [13:54] * kenvandine does the finally dance [13:54] and yay libindicate is building now :) [13:55] * bcurtiswx_ waves to room [13:58] hey bcurtiswx [13:59] hey seb128, its Friday!! :D === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ [13:59] indeed! [14:01] arg! now that libindicate i386 build is getting past the non-installable python-gtk2-dev, it is failing in gir compiling! [14:01] wtf, the other arches worked fine === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ [14:05] hello everyone, happy friday! [14:05] happy friday to you too nessita! [14:05] thanks :-) [14:06] hey nessita, happy friday! [14:06] hey nessita :-) [14:07] * didrocks takes the train to FOSDEM and waves goodbye [14:07] didrocks: have fun, bye! [14:07] didrocks, enjoy! [14:07] pitti, seb128 : thanks, enjoy your week-end! [14:07] have fun didrocks [14:07] kenvandine, btw what happened to eds calendar integration? [14:07] seb128, it was late [14:07] kenvandine, wasn't that going to land? [14:08] karl has it now [14:08] needs to be merged [14:08] he hit too many bugs [14:08] hum, people are saying that for 2 weeks now [14:08] we need to land it at some point and see the bugs [14:08] yeah... we'll see what ted says when he reviews it this time :) [14:08] speaking of eds bugs [14:09] anyone know how to make evolution show mail when it gets in some hosed state? [14:09] gcc -g -O2 -g -O2 does that mean i'm compiling with GTK2 ? [14:09] send/recieve is fine [14:09] but i keep getting "generating message list" [14:09] in all my accounts and mailboxes [14:09] evolution --force-shutdown? [14:09] ;-) [14:09] bcurtiswx_: how are optimization options related to GTK? [14:09] i even rebooted [14:09] it has been like this since yesterday afternoon [14:09] bcurtiswx_, no [14:09] i get to any mail, besides from my phone :) [14:09] bcurtiswx_, it means you are compiling with the optimization=2 in gcc [14:10] * bcurtiswx_ has his new learned thing today.. its early too :( [14:10] lol [14:10] kenvandine, try #evolution on irc.gnome.org [14:10] s/i get/i can't get/ [14:10] ok [14:10] never got it in this state before [14:10] it's weird [14:12] i imagine the sqlite message cache is hosed [14:15] kenvandine, seb128, pitti: do you know if there's an appropriate irc channel to discuss automake issues, so i can determine if this is a viable bug to fix or if i have to do some insanity to work around? [14:15] dobey: I don't know, sorry [14:15] dobey, you can try asking on #ubuntu-devel [14:15] dobey, dunno [14:16] hmm, ok [14:16] there is people who know about it there [14:16] kenvandine, not sure why libindicate is failed to build but what you do is weird [14:17] thanks [14:18] kenvandine, hum, it's not you, it's cdbs [14:18] seb128, it built on the other arches [14:18] are you looking at the buildlog? [14:18] kenvandine, it's failing in the dh_girepository for the cil [14:18] dpkg-shlibdeps is failing on the typelib [14:18] which is built only on i386 [14:19] no... that isn't what i am seeing [14:19] "dh_girepository -plibindicate0.1-cil-dev [14:19] dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libindicate-gtk.so.2 needed by debian/gir1.2-indicate-gtk-0.5/usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Indicate-Gtk-0.5.typelib.so (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: ''). [14:19] Note: libraries are not searched in other binary packages that do not have any shlibs or symbols file." [14:19] is the build log [14:19] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/63545343/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.libindicate_0.4.92-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:19] it shouldn't call it on the cil to start [14:19] that's cdbs doing it [14:19] oh... why that package? [14:19] it calls it on all the binaries [14:20] ugh [14:20] that's a stupid thing to do [14:20] never been a problem before, maybe cdbs has changed? [14:21] it's a new feature in the current cdbs [14:21] but it's not very new [14:21] ideally it should not fail, not sure what is wrong there [14:21] could be a binary build order [14:21] like the cil build built before the libindicate-gtk binary [14:22] but calling dh_girepository on all binaries is asking for issuers [14:22] issues [14:23] i hate build order problems [14:23] don't tell me [14:26] kenvandine, not sure it's that, I said could be, random guess [14:33] mterry, are you seeing issues with unity-panel-service locking up when changing window focus? [14:33] chrisccoulson, no [14:33] it keeps getting stuck in the while loop in active_window_changed in indicator-appmenu here [14:39] chrisccoulson, interesting [14:39] chrisccoulson, that while loop looks like trouble [14:39] mterry, yeah, that's what i thought when i looked at it ;) [14:40] chrisccoulson, so I did change some code that made it more likely we would correctly remove xid entries from that table [14:40] chrisccoulson, you can check the recent bzr commits for it [14:41] chrisccoulson, but that should only have been if the window died. But there can obviously be some race [14:41] mterry, there was no commit since the tarball yesterday [14:41] seb128, yeah should be in the tarball [14:41] or do you mean it could be due to one of your recent changes? [14:41] ok, gotcha [14:42] jdstrand just got the issue too [14:42] oh, nice, the launchpad summary reference the merged vcs-es now [14:42] chrisccoulson, commit 95 [14:43] chrisccoulson, this makes it so that whenever bamf tells us a window died, we remove it from the table. Sounds like we removed such a window then you tried to switch to either that same window or one with the same xid (that we didn't add back to the table somehow) [14:43] hmmm, i'll have a look in a bit [14:44] i'm on patch pilot duties today ;) [14:44] chrisccoulson, where are the uploads? ;-) [14:44] go chrisccoulson go ! [14:45] seb128 -i'm just about to do one, but i rejected one because of some mistakes, and then spent quite a long time trying to help the individual ;) [14:46] chrisccoulson, I see at least 5 you can upload on the list [14:46] so no excuse about not having upload rights today ;-) [14:47] lol [14:47] well if ari stop pinging you about his own bugs before the end of the day ;-) [14:48] yeah feel free to tell him to wait in line ;) [14:50] aww boo, LP's timing out on me [14:51] that's normal isn't it? [14:52] not usually for me... does that mean I'm lucky? [15:10] bcurtiswx_, do you have a running gnome3 stack? [15:11] ricotz, no. [15:11] maaan, python-scipy takes forever to build [15:11] i wish i hadn't picked that off the sponsor list ;) [15:11] bcurtiswx_, ok, i was just curious ;) [15:13] chrisccoulson, there is quite some easy desktop items there [15:13] chrisccoulson, but you can do something while it builds ;-) [15:17] pitti, now that the freeze is over, could you please reenable the Natty langpack uploads, unless you've done it already? Perhaps we can have a look at the po2xpi issues with chrisccoulson next week [15:17] go chrisccoulson go! [15:17] heh :) [15:17] b'ah, i've just had another firefox crash :( [15:18] with all my extension crash fixes in [15:18] it's going to be a long day ;) [15:18] if that's any consolation fiefox didn't crash this cycle here [15:18] hum, "firefox" [15:19] seb128 - are you running my extension? [15:20] no [15:20] I like things when they are stable [15:20] no offense ;-) [15:21] joke aside you didn't clearly say that it was ready for testing [15:22] or if you needed testing [15:22] so I figured I would wait for that rather than running a version known to be buggy when it would annoy me and not bring extra useful info to you [15:22] seb128 - oh, it's ready for testing :) [15:22] what arch are you on? [15:23] k, will try it then ;-) [15:23] i386 [15:23] ah, ok. so, the version currently in my PPA is ok to test. i did upload a new version last night that didn't build (because of a tbird issue) [15:23] but i'll fix that just now [15:23] k [15:24] well, I will let you focus on fixing the bug jdstrand is having before annoying you with firefox ;-) === zyga is now known as zyga-food [15:24] between piloting and that I guess you have enough for today [15:25] ;-) [15:26] i think jdstrand is having the same bug as me, where unity-panel-service spins in a loop [15:27] that basically takes down the whole desktop, as all the applications talking to the panel freeze and crash [15:27] which is pretty bad ;) [15:30] ok, tbird fixed and python-scipy uploaded [15:30] i'll look at this evince patch now [15:30] after restarting, my session is a mess now [15:39] seb128, hey, pgraner is saying that his desktop is pretty trashed today [15:39] is that common? [15:39] sounds like neither compiz nor metacity are working very well, crashing and such [15:39] rickspencer3, not that we know about no [15:40] ok [15:41] he's trying to replicate, I told him to come here to get bugs logged if he's still ahving issues [15:41] thanks seb128 [15:41] you're welcome [15:41] right, better to discuss the issues on the channel [15:41] not easy to say what's going on without extra details [15:42] chrisccoulson has been running into some indicator-appmenu issues today [15:42] but otherwise things are ok [15:45] oh, my firefox crasher was an easy fix [15:45] i missed a bit when i thought i'd fixed it before :/ [15:49] kklimonda, what's up with https://code.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/glibmm2.4/packaging/+merge/48582? [15:51] hey ronoc, quick question: what's the best way to restart the sound indicator?. It just died on me [15:51] dpm, hmm what happened ? [15:52] curious cause I haven't got any new bugs since the last release [15:52] killall unity-panel-service [15:52] should restart all the indicators [15:52] well indicators should auto restart no? [15:52] seb128, true yes they should [15:53] I sometimes got issues where I need to stop the service [15:53] it seems to get in a buggy state [15:53] yesterday the sound indicator was displayed as muted until I restarted the service [15:53] ronoc, I don't know, it just died when entering the session this morning. I didn't bother much about it, but now I need to do a call and I do need sound :) [15:54] seb128, weird, I haven't seen any of these [15:54] dpm, is pulse running [15:54] seb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/709371 [15:54] Launchpad bug 709371 in indicator-sound "refactor pulse manager" [Medium,In progress] [15:54] will land this afternoon [15:55] dpm, can you run gonem-volume-control from command line [15:55] without the pop up "waiting for sound server" [15:55] ronoc, no, I get exactly that popup [15:55] dpm, ah well then pulse has died on you (the indicator is just reflecting the broken state of the audio) [15:56] okay so [15:56] we need some logs [15:56] * ronoc finds wiki page [15:58] dpm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log [15:58] ronoc, I need the sound in some minutes, so I think I'll just log out and back in. Sorry... I promise that next time I'll provide the logs :) [15:58] dpm, no worries === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [16:13] kenvandine, tedg: oh, libindicate [16:13] "dh_girepository: dpkg-shlibdeps -pgir -Tdebian/gir1.2-indicate-gtk-0.5.substvars -xlibc6 -xlibc0 debian/gir1.2-indicate-gtk-0.5/usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Indicate-Gtk-0.5.typelib.so returned exit code 2" [16:13] " dpkg-shlibdeps -pgir" seems wrong [16:14] kenvandine, could it be the rules "binary-predeb/gir%::"? [16:14] no [16:14] seb128, kenvandine was saying that he thinks that's an issue with the order of the builds? [16:14] kenvandine, try dropping the rules snippet [16:14] i already removed that [16:14] how does it fail then? [16:14] still failing [16:14] same error [16:14] well [16:14] kenvandine, can you join #debian-gnome or oftc? [16:14] one sec [16:14] sure [16:32] kenvandine, let's go back to there for ubuntu issues [16:32] kenvandine, I diffed the i386 and amd64 logs [16:32] the only different is pygobject and libdbusmenu basically [16:32] neither of those seem like they could be an issue for that build error [16:34] seb128, built locally fine [16:34] for amd64 [16:34] tedg, hi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/562622/ [16:34] kenvandine, bah [16:34] kenvandine, and amd64 pbuilder? [16:34] building now [16:36] pitti, gwibber is now crashing the same way pithos is [16:36] hey kenvandine [16:36] not much of a traceback... but "Bus error" [16:36] doesn't crash with the downgraded pygobject [16:36] kenvandine: probably similar to bug 713115 and bug 713172 [16:36] Launchpad bug 713115 in pygobject "[natty] virt-manager no longer starts with recent updates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713115 [16:36] pitti: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: list index out of range (https://launchpad.net/bugs/713172) [16:36] kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/pygtk/+bug/713115/comments/4 FYI [16:36] Launchpad bug 713115 in pygobject "[natty] virt-manager no longer starts with recent updates" [High,In progress] [16:37] ok [16:37] kenvandine: so I have a workaround, but I want to debug the real bug a bit more before I roll back the mem leak fix [16:37] pitti, sure, no worries [16:37] * kenvandine has plenty to deal with now with libindicate [16:38] man this isn't how i wanted to spend my friday :( [16:39] fta, Can you install the dbusmenu-gtk symbols? [16:39] seb128, oh great news... [16:40] it is now failing on amd64 in pbuilder! [16:40] * kenvandine looks at natty-changes again [16:40] kenvandine, oh, was it working yesterday? [16:40] yes === lamalex_ is now known as lamalex [16:40] and it built in the archive last night [16:40] kenvandine, you tried in pbuilder? [16:40] yes [16:40] hum [16:41] roughly 20 hours ago [16:41] tedg, sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562624/ [16:41] kenvandine, [16:41] -Setting up libsqlite3-0 (3.7.4-2ubuntu2) ... [16:41] +Setting up libsqlite3-0 (3.7.4-2) ... [16:41] +Setting up python2.6 (2.6.6-6ubuntu5) ... [16:41] +Setting up libpython2.6 (2.6.6-6ubuntu5) ... [16:41] Setting up libpython2.7 (2.7.1-3) ... [16:41] -Setting up python-gobject (2.27.0+git20110131-0ubuntu5) ... [16:41] +Setting up python-gobject (2.27.0+git20110131-0ubuntu2) ... [16:42] very useful [16:42] kenvandine, those and libdbusmenu [16:42] latest pygobject drops the libpython2.6 dependency again, in case it gets in the way [16:42] they are the diff between the amd64 and i386 builds from launchpad [16:42] kenvandine: if you need a working pygobject right now, say the word and I'll upload the memory leak again to fix the crashes [16:43] pitti, can you just push a branch or something? [16:43] i can drop it in my results dir so it gets picked up in my build [16:43] but i have 2.27.0+git20110131-0ubuntu5 locally installed and it builds [16:43] kenvandine: I have a patch (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hamster-applet/+bug/713135/+attachment/1829548/+files/pygobject-revert-refleak.patch) [16:43] Launchpad bug 713135 in hamster-applet "hamster-applet crashed with OperationalError in execute(): no such module: fts3" [Undecided,Incomplete] [16:44] kenvandine: but how would that or a branch help you? [16:44] kenvandine, well it might just be using the system libindicate-gtk2 [16:44] true [16:44] let me grab that [16:44] pitti, i can just build the fix locally and let pbuilder use that version [16:45] i have a hook to use a local repo [16:45] kenvandine: ah [16:45] kenvandine: just adding that to debian/patches and series should work; I created it against upstream git head, which doesn't have .c changes compared to our snapshot [16:46] ok [16:47] mterry, pitti: is bug #689821 fixed now? [16:47] Launchpad bug 689821 in gobject-introspection "Nested types should be allowed in aliases" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689821 [16:48] the upstream bug has a comment indicating it could the same issue than another one which has been closed [16:49] pitti, libpython2.6: Depends: python2.6 (= 2.6.6-6ubuntu4) but 2.6.6-6ubuntu5 is to be installed. [16:49] python2.6-dev: Depends: python2.6 (= 2.6.6-6ubuntu4) but 2.6.6-6ubuntu5 is to be installed. [16:49] seb128, I haven't tried that code in a while, not sure [16:49] i assume just bump that? [16:49] or actuallyu drop it right? [16:50] kenvandine: meh? why do you have non-matching python binaries/libraries? [16:50] that is from pbuilder [16:50] kenvandine: current python-gobject in the archive doesn't link against libpython2.6 any more at all [16:50] ah, but you would have python-all-dev [16:51] but still this looks unrelated [16:52] kenvandine, the dh_ utility are in perl, still it seems weird that one of those updates would break things [16:55] when someone gets a sec, can you tell me if the sound preferences work for you [16:56] bcurtiswx they work for me [16:56] rickspencer3, thx [16:59] pitti, you should upload the commit revert for now imho [17:00] no point to break users systems over the we [17:00] ok [17:00] especially if you have a way to test locally to work on fixing gtk [17:00] I can still replicate it against upstream git head then [17:00] seb128: yes, I do [17:01] well it seems you don't win much from keeping the breaking version then [17:01] out of having a strong reminder that users get hit by the issue ;-) [17:03] and figuring out what breaks [17:04] but I guess we have enough on the "to fix" plate for now [17:04] building and testing now [17:04] pitti, right, I mean once you fix the obvious breakages put it back [17:05] *nod* [17:07] fta, this should fix that: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/dbusmenu/take-unref/+merge/48629 [17:11] tedg, should i distro patch that? [17:11] kenvandine, Uhm probably wouldn't hurt if you're up for it. [17:11] not worth doing a release for but seems like something we need [17:11] sure [17:11] is that a bug or an issue which will show out of warnings? [17:12] what we need is a fix for chrisccoulson's issue [17:12] seb128, that fixes a crash fta was getting [17:13] fta, didn't see to be a crash [17:13] it just made it break on warning to get a stacktrace [17:13] oh [17:13] but yeah, doesn't hurt to backport it [17:14] kenvandine, confirmed it doesn't crash. but please take it as those warnings are polluting the terminal, bad for developers [17:15] tedg / kenvandine - if seb128 didn't mention already, i'm getting a frequent hang in unity-panel-service [17:16] fta, i will [17:16] it's spinning in the while loop in active_window_changed in indicator-appmenu, when i change window focus [17:16] i haven't had time to properly look at it yet [17:16] but it crashes other apps too :( [17:16] tedg, ^ [17:20] chrisccoulson, Are you looking at it properly now? (wait, is is the weekend there?) [17:20] it's not the weekend yet? ;) [17:20] nearly though :-) [17:20]