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jonocan some ops help me moderate #ubuntu-meeting?17:36
Tm_Tjono: I'm semi-available17:38
Tm_Twhat needs to be done?17:38
bazhangset +m?17:38
jonotm_T can we have #ubuntu-meeting locked so that only pgraner and I can speak and people can ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat17:38
Tm_Tye17:38
jonothanks17:39
Tm_Toh, I apparently don't have rights there..17:39
Tm_TI thought I had17:39
jonobazhang, can you do that for me?17:39
Tm_Tpopey: available?17:40
Tm_Tjono: nope, you can see the list who can by doing "/msg chanserv access #ubuntu-meeting list"17:40
bazhangdholbach popey mdke freenode staff and pricechild17:41
bazhangor ircc members17:41
bazhangjono, I wish I could :)17:41
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vishcan we set a re-direct for -meeting all the "*@gateway/web/freenode/*" to -classroom-chat or whereever it is that folks need to be heading?19:28
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_marx_policy question: is there an official policy on bots for loco team channels? my team has lubotu1 and ubuntulog2 (w/o warning). are these required or recommended for loco team channels?22:04
_marx_by w/o warning i mean in the channel's topic22:04
popeywe request that loco teams log their main channel22:04
tsimpsonwhat channel?22:04
tsimpsonit should have an entry message about logging though22:05
tsimpsonor topic22:05
_marx_ubuntu-us-nc22:05
_marx_yes i know now22:05
_marx_ok so i just need to add an appropriate notice in the topic22:08
popeyhmm22:18
popeyi just joined a bunch of loco channels and they all showed me the 'you're logged' message22:19
popeyhowever, most posted it in english22:19
popeythis seems sub-optimal22:19
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/562775/22:19
tsimpsonit really should be localized22:19
_marx_thx for the super fast help yall!22:20
tsimpsonand those locobots are supposed to be replaced by ubuntulogs22:20
nhandlertsimpson: lubotu isn't the old loco log bot, it is the ubottu clone22:22
rwwthe locobot_# bots are still online. I dunno if they're actually in channels, though.22:22
tsimpsonnhandler: not lubot, locobot22:23
rww... oh. I suspect it would help if nhandler and I actually read pastes.22:23
* nhandler thought he was commenting on the orginal comment by _marx_ (who said lubotu1)22:24
popeyI'm mailing ubuntu-irc so we can figure out how to resolve this22:25
nhandlerI just checked. All the channels in popey's paste also have ubuntulog. So we just need to get the loco log bot removed22:26
popeyI'm less bothered about logging, more bothered by the fact that I'm not told in french, or italian that the channel is logged22:27
popeyanyway, mail sent so we get it known that its an issue22:27
tsimpsonwould probably be better to email the loco contacts than the -irc ML22:28
nhandlerpopey: Those were notices from locobot, not chanserv entrymsg's (which need to get set and should be localized)22:29
popeyI'm not asking -irc to do anything, my mail asks who should be tasks with fixing it22:29
popeyand loco-contacts is probably not as useful as you think22:30
popeythe vast majority of loco teams dont read it22:30
popey(which is a separate issue itself)22:30
Tm_Tindeed, then there's people like me who reads, but forgets it all ):22:31
rwwRather than changing locobot, 1) channel founders need to be poked about setting chanserv entrymsg / topic / etc., 2) locobot_* should be actually be removed for good (unless some channels prefer it? I don't know what its status is).22:31
rwwsince ubuntulog doesn't handle entry messages like locobot did (which is fine, that's what entrymsg is for)22:31
nhandlerrww: locobot was meant to be removed once ubuntulog showed up. We'll need to get a hold of the admin to ask about that22:32
_marx_daanngg; i started out following up on a team meeting action item and feel like i stepped in a yellow jacket nest22:34
gpchaha22:35
gpcthat'll tech you22:35
gpcteach*22:35
_marx_well tech me too ;)22:35
rww_marx_: nah. It's just been a rather messy transition.22:35
popeyits great _marx_, I'm glad you brought it up22:35
rwwindeed22:36
popeyhopefully it will ultimately result in a better experience for new users22:36
popeyso thats a win22:36
rwwI take it that -us-nc wasn't originally logged by locobot_*?22:36
_marx_i'm wondering how much info to split between entrymsg and topic now22:36
_marx_rww: i believe it was at one time22:37
rwwah, okay. I inferred from your original message that the channel used to be unlogged. That would have explained why a lot of channels don't have entrymsg, topic, etc. set up for it.22:38
_marx_part of the explanation of that is that i'm a long time irc user but haven't op'd much22:43
_marx_our team has two other ops, i caught this one22:44
m4vwe have a mixed language entrymsg due to the Terms Of Service being in english.23:06
erUSULpopey: El canal se archiva públicamente (Nota legal: This channel is publicly logged at  irclogs.ubuntu.com. Use of this channel implies acceptance of the terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService )23:14
erUSULnote that we say it first in spanish. and then we link the terms of service23:14
m4verUSUL: he meant the locobot's entry msg though23:15
m4vwhich was always in english as I remember23:16
tsimpsonloco teams should be encouraged to translate the ToS page into their language and link to that23:16
m4vwe have a ton of documentation that need translation.23:28

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