=== k1l_ is now known as k1l === gpc is now known as Gulfstream [03:31] IdleOne is back [03:32] not really === IdleOne is now known as gpc [03:32] IdleOne is front [03:33] buuh === gpc is now known as IdleTwo === IdleTwo is now known as gpc === k1l_ is now known as k1l [17:36] can some ops help me moderate #ubuntu-meeting? [17:38] jono: I'm semi-available [17:38] what needs to be done? [17:38] set +m? [17:38] tm_T can we have #ubuntu-meeting locked so that only pgraner and I can speak and people can ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat [17:38] ye [17:39] thanks [17:39] oh, I apparently don't have rights there.. [17:39] I thought I had [17:39] bazhang, can you do that for me? [17:40] popey: available? [17:40] jono: nope, you can see the list who can by doing "/msg chanserv access #ubuntu-meeting list" [17:41] dholbach popey mdke freenode staff and pricechild [17:41] or ircc members [17:41] jono, I wish I could :) === evilvish is now known as vish [19:28] can we set a re-direct for -meeting all the "*@gateway/web/freenode/*" to -classroom-chat or whereever it is that folks need to be heading? === bcurtiswx_ is now known as _bcurtiswx === _bcurtiswx is now known as bcurtiswx_ === Into_the_Pit is now known as Frickelpit [22:04] <_marx_> policy question: is there an official policy on bots for loco team channels? my team has lubotu1 and ubuntulog2 (w/o warning). are these required or recommended for loco team channels? [22:04] <_marx_> by w/o warning i mean in the channel's topic [22:04] we request that loco teams log their main channel [22:04] what channel? [22:05] it should have an entry message about logging though [22:05] or topic [22:05] <_marx_> ubuntu-us-nc [22:05] <_marx_> yes i know now [22:08] <_marx_> ok so i just need to add an appropriate notice in the topic [22:18] hmm [22:19] i just joined a bunch of loco channels and they all showed me the 'you're logged' message [22:19] however, most posted it in english [22:19] this seems sub-optimal [22:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/562775/ [22:19] it really should be localized [22:20] <_marx_> thx for the super fast help yall! [22:20] and those locobots are supposed to be replaced by ubuntulogs [22:22] tsimpson: lubotu isn't the old loco log bot, it is the ubottu clone [22:22] the locobot_# bots are still online. I dunno if they're actually in channels, though. [22:23] nhandler: not lubot, locobot [22:23] ... oh. I suspect it would help if nhandler and I actually read pastes. [22:24] * nhandler thought he was commenting on the orginal comment by _marx_ (who said lubotu1) [22:25] I'm mailing ubuntu-irc so we can figure out how to resolve this [22:26] I just checked. All the channels in popey's paste also have ubuntulog. So we just need to get the loco log bot removed [22:27] I'm less bothered about logging, more bothered by the fact that I'm not told in french, or italian that the channel is logged [22:27] anyway, mail sent so we get it known that its an issue [22:28] would probably be better to email the loco contacts than the -irc ML [22:29] popey: Those were notices from locobot, not chanserv entrymsg's (which need to get set and should be localized) [22:29] I'm not asking -irc to do anything, my mail asks who should be tasks with fixing it [22:30] and loco-contacts is probably not as useful as you think [22:30] the vast majority of loco teams dont read it [22:30] (which is a separate issue itself) [22:31] indeed, then there's people like me who reads, but forgets it all ): [22:31] Rather than changing locobot, 1) channel founders need to be poked about setting chanserv entrymsg / topic / etc., 2) locobot_* should be actually be removed for good (unless some channels prefer it? I don't know what its status is). [22:31] since ubuntulog doesn't handle entry messages like locobot did (which is fine, that's what entrymsg is for) [22:32] rww: locobot was meant to be removed once ubuntulog showed up. We'll need to get a hold of the admin to ask about that [22:34] <_marx_> daanngg; i started out following up on a team meeting action item and feel like i stepped in a yellow jacket nest [22:35] haha [22:35] that'll tech you [22:35] teach* [22:35] <_marx_> well tech me too ;) [22:35] _marx_: nah. It's just been a rather messy transition. [22:35] its great _marx_, I'm glad you brought it up [22:36] indeed [22:36] hopefully it will ultimately result in a better experience for new users [22:36] so thats a win [22:36] I take it that -us-nc wasn't originally logged by locobot_*? [22:36] <_marx_> i'm wondering how much info to split between entrymsg and topic now [22:37] <_marx_> rww: i believe it was at one time [22:38] ah, okay. I inferred from your original message that the channel used to be unlogged. That would have explained why a lot of channels don't have entrymsg, topic, etc. set up for it. [22:43] <_marx_> part of the explanation of that is that i'm a long time irc user but haven't op'd much [22:44] <_marx_> our team has two other ops, i caught this one [23:06] we have a mixed language entrymsg due to the Terms Of Service being in english. [23:14] popey: El canal se archiva públicamente (Nota legal: This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com. Use of this channel implies acceptance of the terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService ) [23:14] note that we say it first in spanish. and then we link the terms of service [23:15] erUSUL: he meant the locobot's entry msg though [23:16] which was always in english as I remember [23:16] loco teams should be encouraged to translate the ToS page into their language and link to that [23:28] we have a ton of documentation that need translation.