[00:19] <cjohnston> howdt
[00:19] <cjohnston> howdy
[00:41] <mhall119> hiya
[00:41] <mhall119> how was class?
[00:42] <cjohnston> alot better than i expected
[00:42] <cjohnston> day two tomorrow
[00:42] <cjohnston> still a very long day though
[00:42] <mhall119> what's it for?
[00:42] <cjohnston> its a leadership class
[00:42] <cjohnston> for the FD
[00:42] <mhall119> going for a promotion?
[00:43] <cjohnston> yes.. its not required..
[00:43] <cjohnston> but its free.. and hopefully ill pick up a couple things
[00:43] <mhall119> can't beat that
[00:43] <cjohnston> its a decent bit about psychology type stuff
[00:43] <cjohnston> how to talk to different types of people 
[00:43] <cjohnston> how to understand different types of people
[00:44] <cjohnston> how to convey messages to where they are responded to better
[00:44] <mhall119> hmm, I could use that
[00:44] <cjohnston> im sure that the class exists outside the fire department world
[02:19]  * mhall119 is playing with dynamic models in Django
[02:19] <mhall119> it feels like I'm playing with explosives
[02:20] <mhall119> or Perl
[02:37] <nhandler> mhall119: Hey! Don't ever insult the power of Perl (although, I still think shebang sounds like an explosive)
[02:38] <mhall119> I'd never insult Perl
[02:38] <mhall119> I meant it has the same feel
[02:38] <mhall119> that there's more than one way to do it, but that doesn't mean you should, but it does mean want to anyway
[02:39]  * nhandler thinks that last sentence was more confusing than any of his Perl scripts
[02:40] <mhall119> oh come on, I could parse that with a regular expression
[02:41] <nhandler> mhall119: Parsing is not the same as understanding
[02:41] <mhall119> tell that to Perl
[02:43] <mhall119> nhandler: http://webscripts.softpedia.com/script/Database-Tools/Sequel-Explorer-42207.html
[02:45] <mhall119> http://sourceforge.net/projects/sqladministrato/ is a better link
[02:45] <mhall119> me and Perl have a history
[02:58] <JanC> *pfff* Unity is rendering most of our locoteam's demo hardware "useless"  :-/
[03:04] <mhall119> JanC: using Alpha 2?
[03:05] <JanC> installing alpha 2 on soem hardware to show at FOSDEM  ;)
[03:05] <JanC> they are old Thinkpads
[03:06] <JanC> RR51
[03:06] <JanC> -R
[03:07] <JanC> apparently they have a 855 IGP, which isn't supported well anymore by Intel, so no 3D, and no (real) Unity...  :-(
[03:07] <mhall119> have you tried Unity 2D?
[03:08] <JanC> yeah, running that on one now
[03:09] <JanC> are Places broken in "normal" Unity too?
[03:09] <JanC> or is this just Unity 2D ?
[03:11] <JanC> I think most/all of the hardware ubuntu-be owns for demo purposes can't run the 3D Unity  :-/
[03:12] <mhall119> I don't know, I haven't tried Unity since 10.10
[03:12] <mhall119> but I've heard people say the 2D/QT version is quite fast now
[03:13] <JanC> it's fast, just that Places doesn't work, so I need a terminal to launch applications   ;)
[03:14] <JanC> well, or navigate to /usr/bin/ every time
[03:14] <JanC> it's an alpha of course  ;)
[03:18] <JanC> I hope unity-2d will keep (almost) feature-parity with unity for some years...
[03:22] <JanC> mhall119: is there a reason why the loco-directory uses only UTC?  :-/
[03:30] <mhall119> JanC: for meetings we use UTC
[03:31] <mhall119> only because we haven't decided on a good way to implement 'local time' for IRC meetings
[03:31] <mhall119> LD uses local time for Events if they have a venue
[03:31] <JanC> for most LoCoTeams there isn't more than 1 local time
[03:31] <mhall119> I think we have a plan for adding local times to meetings and elsewhere in LD though
[03:32] <mhall119> JanC: lots of them have multiple though, and we need to make is useable to them too
[03:32] <JanC> I guess the other solution is to let people set their timezone in their profile...
[03:32] <mhall119> JanC: see the comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/711754
[03:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711754 in loco-directory "meeting start/end time uses UTC, not local time (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[03:33] <mhall119> JanC: that's also in the works, we have a UserProfile that can store timezone, and I think we're getting it from Launchpad
[03:33] <JanC> ah
[03:34] <JanC> would also be nice to associate a list of timezones to a locoteam then
[03:36] <JanC> when entering a date/time the user's timezone could be used, when displaying all the team's timezones, that would be great indeed
[03:37] <mhall119> that's the plan
[03:43] <JanC> so, time to get some sleep
[04:40] <nigelb> Morning *yawn*
[05:07] <mhall119> good morning nigelb 
[05:10] <nigelb> hola mhall119 
[05:14] <mhall119> good night nigelb 
[06:35] <YoBoY> good morning
[06:36] <nigelb> hey YoBoY 
[06:40] <YoBoY> how are you nigelb ?
[06:40] <nigelb> Good good.  Glad about weekend today :)
[08:19] <dholbach> good morning
[09:00] <toros> hi
[09:21] <YoBoY> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrenchTeam/TeamReports/11/January << French Team report done
[09:29] <head_victim> YoBoY: thanks for the reminder *goes off to finish his
[14:47] <locodir-user> join # ubuntu
[14:47] <locodir-user> good evening very body
[14:48] <locodir-user> is there any one online
[20:58] <loyrsf> exit
[20:58] <loyrsf> or so
[21:00] <cjohnston>  /45
[21:14] <mhall119>  /46
[21:14] <mhall119> I win
[21:14] <cjohnston> :-P
[21:15] <mhall119> I lied, I only have 36