| Pici | charlie-tca: I actually had already gotten the email when I said that earlier. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| charlie-tca | That was what I waited for, too. I find it works better that way | 00:00 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, etfb said: !default is <reply> Does double-clicking a file icon always launch the wrong program? Change the default setting like this: right-click the icon in Nautilus (the file manager). Choose the Properties menu. In the Open With tab, select your preferred program and click OK. | 00:01 |
| rww | !default | 00:01 |
| ubottu | To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. | 00:01 |
| rww | I see that there are more words in the suggestion. I don't see how it's different :< | 00:02 |
| charlie-tca | I like the original better. It is simpler | 00:02 |
| ray24 | buncha of fags | 01:05 |
| ray24 | fuck this | 01:05 |
| maco | watch your language please | 01:05 |
| Pici | Well that sort of attitude isn't going to get you unbanned any faster, | 01:05 |
| ray24 | banning me? | 01:06 |
| ray24 | if i saw you in real life | 01:06 |
| ray24 | your done | 01:06 |
| rww | my done what? | 01:06 |
| ray24 | post your profile | 01:06 |
| maco | is that a threat of violence and or murder? | 01:06 |
| ray24 | lemme see your credentials | 01:06 |
| ray24 | im a man of power | 01:06 |
| maco | are you aware that such threats even when made on the internet are just as illegal as when over the phone or face to face? | 01:06 |
| h00k | clearly. | 01:06 |
| ray24 | let me see who that is behind that computer | 01:06 |
| ray24 | before you exude anymore authority | 01:06 |
| ray24 | upon thee | 01:06 |
| maco | er, that's not how you use second-person familiar | 01:07 |
| ray24 | what makes you think your opinion is any good? | 01:07 |
| h00k | it's true. | 01:07 |
| bazhang | !staff | 01:07 |
| ubottu | hey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :) | 01:07 |
| maco | as in, you just used a second person pronoun to refer to yourself, which since you said it...you should've used a first person pronoun | 01:07 |
| Pici | ahem. | 01:07 |
| Pici | bazhang: ? | 01:07 |
| ray24 | this place is brainwash | 01:07 |
| ray24 | communist | 01:07 |
| bazhang | Pici, death threats? | 01:07 |
| h00k | Also, ray24, your attitude isn't going to get yourself anywhere. Please go away. | 01:07 |
| ray24 | go away? | 01:07 |
| tonyyarusso | Can anyone think of a single reason to allow this to continue? | 01:07 |
| maco | nope | 01:07 |
| ray24 | I'm a ubuntu user | 01:07 |
| marienz | assuming you don't need staff anymore? | 01:08 |
| bazhang | just wanted to make them aware | 01:08 |
| maco | h00k: was "it's true" at my grammar correction? | 01:08 |
| tonyyarusso | marienz: well, unless you have weekly meetings with the FBI :P | 01:08 |
| h00k | maco: yes | 01:09 |
| Pici | Unless marienz disagrees, I think that just a poke to a staffer might be better. I see !staff similarly to !ops, in that we need action take asap. | 01:09 |
| h00k | tonyyarusso: I know people in the US DoD, if that helps. | 01:09 |
| h00k | tonyyarusso: He called me once for Linux help. | 01:10 |
| tonyyarusso | yay, PMs too! | 01:10 |
| * Pici too | 01:10 | |
| h00k | not here, yet. | 01:10 |
| Jordan_U | Never would have expected that. | 01:10 |
| rww | h00k: oh, good. I was feeling left out. | 01:10 |
| * h00k queries rww | 01:10 | |
| Pici | I threw the appeals link at them... good thing I don't have to deal with those anymore. | 01:10 |
| marienz | assuming this is the first time he does something like this I don't think staff should get involved just yet, but I've relayed it | 01:11 |
| rww | h00k: xkcd 853 | 01:11 |
| Pici | marienz: As far as I know, this is the first time we've seen this particular guy. | 01:11 |
| h00k | rww: :3 I love that one. | 01:11 |
| maco | i think if i threw a stick within a mile of where i work, i'd hit a US DoD person, seeing as the suburb where i work was created to house people who work at No Such Agency | 01:12 |
| maco | oh im getting them now too | 01:13 |
| maco | ive been called two names so far | 01:13 |
| Pici | only two? | 01:13 |
| maco | and afaik, they're not ones that can usually both apply to the same person... | 01:13 |
| h00k | Stop Theeself! | 01:14 |
| maco | hmm one of them just repeated, and ive been asked to commit suicide | 01:14 |
| * maco ponders | 01:14 | |
| maco | no thanks | 01:14 |
| maco | i just got a new job. think i'd like to stay alive long enough for my first paycheque at least | 01:14 |
| Pici | I'll add my pm log to the bt comments. | 01:14 |
| maco | oh and a racial term was just used as if it were an insult... | 01:14 |
| Pici | and.. commented. | 01:16 |
| h00k | @login | 01:16 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 01:16 |
| h00k | @btloin | 01:16 |
| h00k | fail. | 01:16 |
| h00k | @btlgin | 01:16 |
| rww | @btloincloth | 01:16 |
| h00k | ... | 01:16 |
| h00k | @btlogin | 01:16 |
| Jordan_U | mmm, btloin | 01:16 |
| Jordan_U | btloin with btgin, even better. | 01:16 |
| rww | I don't get it. He's threatening to do Ubuntu advocacy? | 01:17 |
| Pici | I didn't know being unemployed was an insult either. | 01:18 |
| h00k | Oop, now I'm in the club, too. | 01:18 |
| * rww sulks | 01:18 | |
| persia | Anything can be an insult: "You're so useless, you use a computer!!!", it's all in the delivery. | 01:18 |
| tonyyarusso | "You can't even chat on IRC without a machine to help!" | 01:19 |
| h00k | Okay, in all honesty, what was said to me was pretty weak. | 01:19 |
| h00k | Not advocating anything, but...heh. | 01:19 |
| Jordan_U | persia: In Soviet Russia computer uses YOU! | 01:19 |
| maco | i mostly was just informed my sexuality is unacceptable. with no evidence regarding what my sexuality actually is. but whatever! | 01:20 |
| persia | Jordan_U, Pity those days are gone: there's something better about BCI interfaces when the HID is an output device. | 01:20 |
| Pici | So.. in other words, just another day as an op. | 01:20 |
| h00k | I added my comment to the bantracker as well. | 01:20 |
| h00k | s/comment/comments | 01:20 |
| h00k | there were 2! | 01:20 |
| rww | Pici: they haven't ban-evaded yet, so today is actually a relatively good day | 01:20 |
| h00k | rww: don't give ideas :( | 01:20 |
| maco | ubottu isnt answering when i login | 01:20 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 01:20 |
| maco | @login | 01:20 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 01:21 |
| tonyyarusso | maco: Maybe being capable of having a sexuality is unacceptable? | 01:21 |
| maco | ah have to do it in a channel. how silly | 01:21 |
| maco | @btlogin | 01:21 |
| maco | tonyyarusso: im sorry im not a eunuch? | 01:21 |
| Jordan_U | maco: You shouldn't have to. | 01:21 |
| maco | if only we were all unix.... | 01:21 |
| tonyyarusso | maco: hehe | 01:21 |
| rww | i has a PM | 01:21 |
| maco | Jordan_U: tell that to ubottu | 01:21 |
| tonyyarusso | maco: but we want to be linux, not unix! | 01:21 |
| maco | ok mine's in | 01:22 |
| Pici | related: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47570404@N08/4352322441/ | 01:22 |
| persia | Let's not get into discussions of preferred technology, or somebody will mention joe. | 01:22 |
| rww | the editor? | 01:23 |
| Pici | ed's friend. | 01:23 |
| h00k | I hear he has vi | 01:24 |
| Jordan_U | Obligatory: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html | 01:24 |
| maco | rww: your turn to add a comment? | 01:28 |
| maco | rww: or is he still going? | 01:28 |
| rww | my log is too long and too hilarious to be added. | 01:28 |
| maco | hilarious sounds like reason *to* add... | 01:28 |
| h00k | I think anyone reviewing the log will get the message ;) | 01:28 |
| Pici | Yah | 01:29 |
| Pici | oh,. | 01:31 |
| maco | !hacking | 01:36 |
| ubottu | A hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy | 01:36 |
| maco | !learn2hack | 01:37 |
| maco | can i make an alias for !learn2hack for: If you would like to learn to hack, please follow the HowTo set forth by Eric S Raymond at http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html | 01:37 |
| maco | its about /actual/ /legal/ hacking | 01:38 |
| maco | like...being an excellent programmer | 01:38 |
| bazhang | thats not what he wanted, and prolongs the offtopic follow on commentary | 01:38 |
| maco | but maybe gets them to go away and read for an hour or so | 01:38 |
| maco | do script kiddies know how to read? | 01:38 |
| bazhang | unlikely in the extreme | 01:38 |
| h00k | maco: yeah, this line: /////COPY EVERYTHING BELOW HERE | 01:39 |
| maco | hahaha | 01:39 |
| rww | maco: 0|\|1'/ !|\| 1337 | 01:39 |
| maco | rww: the hell does THAT say? | 01:40 |
| maco | oh i see | 01:40 |
| maco | only in leet | 01:40 |
| * persia always thought hackers delighted in using their intimate understanding of internal workings to fiddle about and change things. | 01:41 | |
| persia | (hacker: one who hacks -> to hack: to perform activities resulting in a hack -> a hack: some way of interpreting or presenting rules to accomplish an unexpectedly elegant result (e.g. implementing /usr/bin/true as "#! /bin/sh\n") | 01:43 |
| bazhang | except in #ubuntu | 01:47 |
| bazhang | look at his last line before exit: "I know it's illegal!" | 01:48 |
| * h00k facepalms | 01:48 | |
| bazhang | the point being, people who know the distinction don't ask about it | 01:49 |
| h00k | rule 1 and 2. | 01:50 |
| h00k | or something | 01:51 |
| tonyyarusso | Whoa. See @joey's identi.ca :( | 01:53 |
| h00k | :o | 01:53 |
| h00k | I really try to have hope for humanity. | 01:54 |
| maco | um who is joey? | 01:54 |
| h00k | some dude | 01:54 |
| maco | O_O | 01:55 |
| maco | i cant say what im thinking in this channel | 01:55 |
| maco | itd violate !language | 01:55 |
| tonyyarusso | maco: Joey Stanford | 01:58 |
| maco | tonyyarusso: figured that out by now, having clicked the link and gotten far enough to O_O | 01:58 |
| maco | erm, typed in the url | 01:59 |
| maco | same diff | 01:59 |
| * tonyyarusso rages | 02:00 | |
| tonyyarusso | maco: 5 & 7 and 12 & 14 have the same difference! | 02:00 |
| * rww giggles at PM window | 02:00 | |
| tonyyarusso | rww: There's *more*! | 02:00 |
| tonyyarusso | ? | 02:00 |
| rww | tonyyarusso: We're having a delightful conversation about my army of bats | 02:01 |
| maco | hahaha | 02:01 |
| tonyyarusso | nice | 02:01 |
| rww | And in case anyone else has been getting PMs with quotes in them, I don't tend to use emoticons awkwardly in the middle of sentences. | 02:02 |
| persia | Aww:(wwww | 02:04 |
| KB1JWQ | rww: I do! | 02:08 |
| maco | oh more | 02:10 |
| h00k | he came back. | 02:11 |
| rww | 02:10:47 <ray24> #ubuntu-ray | 02:11 |
| h00k | er. | 02:11 |
| rww | although it appears they don't know how to chanserv, so *shrug* | 02:12 |
| h00k | I'm getting the /queries from that person again | 02:12 |
| * tonyyarusso dons pie-in-the-sky hat | 02:12 | |
| tonyyarusso | Freenode GMS will prevent creation of such channels! | 02:12 |
| * tonyyarusso returns to reality | 02:12 | |
| h00k | another short round of completely original insults | 02:14 |
| rww | Just remember, every minute they spend being witty and creative in PM is another minute they're not figuring out how to get into #ubuntu. | 02:14 |
| h00k | yeah...I considered replying for an attempt to delay any ban-evading attempts | 02:15 |
| persia | We need better chatbot plugins for clients to have these drawn-out discussions for us. Automation for the win. | 02:16 |
| rww | ooo, that's a good idea actually | 02:19 |
| tonyyarusso | There's a decent supybot one | 02:20 |
| rww | http://scripts.irssi.org/html/eliza.pl.html :D | 02:21 |
| tonyyarusso | eliza is ollllllllld | 02:21 |
| nhandler | Pici: re: The staff factoid, I don't think it is a big deal either way. If you just want to make us aware of something, a simple PM might be more effective, but there is nothing wrong with hilighting us via the factoid. | 02:23 |
| persia | But perhaps exhaustingly patient when responding to insults, especially when seeded occasionally by human input to indicate it's not entirely a bot (although I'm unsure of freenode policy wrt cyborgs) | 02:23 |
| gpc | did you know you could change the topic in channels that are not +t even without @ | 02:25 |
| rww | Yes. Yes I do know. | 02:25 |
| gpc | even though it is trollish. I admit to partaking in the fun once | 02:26 |
| gpc | :) | 02:26 |
| rww | time to take that script and adapt it to respond if $nick PMs me | 02:27 |
| rww | oh. requires Chatbot::Eliza. isn't packaged, way too lazy to install manually. | 02:28 |
| persia | It's in your local hardy mirror, if you want. | 02:30 |
| nhandler | persia: I have a feeling cyborgs would fall under the bot policy. Basically, they are fine if you have permission to have them in the channel. | 02:30 |
| persia | nhandler, makes sense, and probably also falls under some don't-ask-don't-tell model, as it might be hard to determine the level of automation without investigation into the client configuration. | 02:31 |
| rww | I have a feeling that autobleh makes me less than 100% human. | 02:31 |
| persia | Indeed it does. | 02:31 |
| Pici | nhandler: roger that. | 02:32 |
| rww | psh, they deleted chatbot-eliza for being "unpopular, unmaintained, lame" | 02:33 |
| rww | heretics | 02:33 |
| elky | in other words, someone's pride got hurt. | 02:36 |
| nhandler | rww: Yeah, all packages in Debian need a maintainer. If you poke me, I could probably get it re-uploaded through the pkg-perl team ;) | 02:36 |
| persia | unpopular is a poor reason. unmaintained is something you could volunteer to fix, if you liked. lame is subjective. | 02:36 |
| elky | lame is probably the most telling | 02:37 |
| KB1JWQ | I do like that sdate is still there. | 02:42 |
| rww | I like that ddate is installed by default. | 02:43 |
| rww | (Today is Setting Orange, the 35th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3177) | 02:43 |
| elky | heh | 02:44 |
| jrib | wth is ddate | 02:44 |
| rww | it outputs the current Discordian date | 02:45 |
| jrib | ah | 02:45 |
| rww | ( http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/41.php ) | 02:45 |
| * rww giggles at #freenode | 02:47 | |
| rww | which of you is still PMing him? I stopped 25 minutes ago :\ | 02:48 |
| maco | im not | 02:48 |
| h00k | I'm not | 02:49 |
| h00k | I haven't respondd at all | 02:49 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, witeshark said: !! there it is again! | 03:14 |
| KB1JWQ | I also like the sl package. | 03:18 |
| maco | ditto | 03:18 |
| === gpc is now known as Gulfstream | ||
| rww | pwnt | 03:30 |
| h00k | yes | 03:31 |
| === IdleOne is now known as gpc | ||
| KB1JWQ | I've been shockingly helpful today in #ubuntu. The downside to that is there are entirely too many people who don't know how to properly ask a question. | 03:41 |
| gpc | welcome to irc | 03:43 |
| persia | If only the phenomenon described was limited to IRC :( | 03:44 |
| === gpc is now known as IdleTwo | ||
| === IdleTwo is now known as gpc | ||
| h00k | persia: what mean you things people real do life think? | 03:45 |
| rww | h00k: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? | 03:45 |
| h00k | rww: That's what it is! Yes. | 03:46 |
| persia | h00k, Conventionally, the activity of the individual, when seeking to achieve some goal, especially one dearly required, especially important ones, please? | 03:46 |
| h00k | persia: still no verb! | 03:47 |
| persia | "please" is a verb: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/please | 03:48 |
| persia | I think you mean "No independent clause!!" | 03:48 |
| highvoltage | please please me | 03:48 |
| persia | That's definitely the model of the very best of pleas | 03:49 |
| h00k | Not used there, it wasn't, one could argue! Anyway, yes, no independent clause. | 03:49 |
| highvoltage | it's from The Beatles | 03:49 |
| KB1JWQ | cobra42_ is likely to become a problem, FYI. | 03:55 |
| * h00k hops over | 03:57 | |
| bazhang | cobra2_ ? | 03:57 |
| KB1JWQ | Er, yes. | 03:57 |
| KB1JWQ | And there he is giving sudo rm -rf advice. | 04:20 |
| ubottu | xangua called the ops in #ubuntu (cobra2_) | 04:20 |
| KB1JWQ | gpc: Depressing that I called it. | 04:21 |
| bazhang | got him in PM | 04:21 |
| KB1JWQ | bazhang: Anything of substance? | 04:26 |
| h00k | ubuntu.com is down | 04:27 |
| bazhang | KB1JWQ, trying to get him to read the code of conduct and guidelines currently | 04:27 |
| KB1JWQ | 20:27:34 [freenode] [~cobra2_(~someone@174.124.232.204 )] unmute me in ##ubuntu | 04:28 |
| KB1JWQ | 20:27:46 [freenode] [~cobra2_(~someone@174.124.232.204 )] be4 spam | 04:28 |
| KB1JWQ | In my PM. | 04:28 |
| ubottu | kklimonda called the ops in #ubuntu+1 () | 04:31 |
| elky | It's moments like that which I really really want a RT instance for the irc team | 04:32 |
| elky | It'd also make it easier for people to ask for cloaks, etc. | 04:33 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: So we to can deal with problems 2 years after they occur? | 04:33 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, well as it is, we're not dealing with non-urgent issues that nobody reads 12hrs of scrollback to find. | 04:33 |
| tonyyarusso | It's true | 04:33 |
| rww | I read every line in -ops. | 04:33 |
| rww | Have done for months. | 04:33 |
| * tonyyarusso is trying to set up Trac at work, failing at the authentication stuff :( | 04:33 | |
| rww | My head is /so full of useless crap/ now. | 04:34 |
| elky | That is, factoid suggestions/edits, cloaks, non-urgent channel maintenance. | 04:34 |
| elky | It'd be *awesome* to be able to mark stuff done off. | 04:34 |
| tonyyarusso | Why use something other than Launchpad though? | 04:34 |
| persia | Any reason not to use an LP project for that? | 04:34 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, like rt, which the sysadmins use? | 04:34 |
| tonyyarusso | persia: Too slow! | 04:34 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: right | 04:35 |
| rww | too user unfriendly | 04:35 |
| h00k | synical appears to be a bot in #ubuntu, responded to !uptime,not sure who it belongs to | 04:35 |
| tonyyarusso | RT is kinda clunky, and Yet Another Account | 04:35 |
| KB1JWQ | I've gotten trac working for jquery.com, let me know if you need a hand, tonyyarusso. | 04:35 |
| bazhang | he's been asked to turn off that script before h00k | 04:35 |
| elky | rww, it's too user-unfriendly to email rt@whereverwesetitup.com? | 04:35 |
| persia | RT is mostly interesting if you want queue management, which I doubt there is a need to handle for the volume of requests. | 04:35 |
| rww | elky: i meant LP | 04:35 |
| h00k | bazhang: do you know who it belongs to? | 04:35 |
| elky | rww, ohgodsyes | 04:35 |
| persia | elky, RT admin is a bit more overhead. | 04:36 |
| tonyyarusso | KB1JWQ: Will do. My hangup has been getting the form-based database auth and user registration going, as opposed to the default Apache auth and manual user definitions. | 04:36 |
| KB1JWQ | Rather than RT I'd probably suggest JIRA. Free for open source projects even. :-p | 04:36 |
| h00k | bazhang: or is it synical's client | 04:36 |
| elky | persia, so if we had a lp project for "irc request queue" or whatever, what would we tell people to email to to start a ticket? | 04:36 |
| bazhang | h00k, a script I think, check his host | 04:36 |
| h00k | yeah... | 04:37 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: If people e-mail to start a ticket, they'll expect someone to e-mail them back :( | 04:37 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, the closing off of the ticket would send the email automatically | 04:37 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: but not *right away* | 04:37 |
| persia | elky, new@bugs.launchpad.net, but it's not lovely: see https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface | 04:37 |
| h00k | bazhang: isn't responding to queries | 04:37 |
| tonyyarusso | If we wait four days to deal with their cloak they'll be all "HELLO? DOES ANYBODY READ THIS MAILBOX?" | 04:37 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, you can configure automatically reply with "it's in our queue we won't lose it here like we will in irc." | 04:38 |
| elky | or whatevs | 04:38 |
| KB1JWQ | Yeah, synical is just sitting there with that script going. Irritating to be sure. | 04:38 |
| bazhang | synical, hi | 04:38 |
| rww | We don't lose cloak requests, though. There are awesome people in #ubuntu-irc that throw rocks at IRCC until they appear ;P | 04:39 |
| h00k | synical: I had you forwarded you here because your script is enabled in #ubuntu. | 04:39 |
| * rww still thinks a ticket system would be nice, though | 04:39 | |
| tonyyarusso | elky: People should be used to submitting things on Launchpad for Ubuntu anyway - I don't see why and e-mail interface is important or useful for this. | 04:40 |
| tonyyarusso | rww: agreed on that much | 04:40 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, because people disconnect from irc occasionally. | 04:40 |
| elky | normal people. not people like you. | 04:40 |
| h00k | they do?? | 04:40 |
| rww | h00k: yeah. Linode goes down sometimes. | 04:40 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: Huh? What does that have to do with anything? | 04:40 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, lots. I don't have to have a list by my computer of people who i have to look out for to tell something I did last week | 04:41 |
| h00k | I have a feeling synical is afk and is going to sit here for a while. | 04:41 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: ... | 04:41 |
| rww | elky: tonyyarusso's suggesting using LP as a ticketing system, not not using a ticketing system or just using IRC. | 04:41 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: We're discussing web interface vs. e-mail interface. We agree on the usefulness of a ticketing system. See above. | 04:41 |
| bazhang | h00k, he's never been responsive to PM over the past few weeks | 04:41 |
| h00k | fantastic. | 04:42 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, ah got confused. either way, launchpad *is* confusing. unless you want "i want a cloak" raised as a bug against "ubuntu" | 04:42 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: bug against "ubuntu-irc-stuffs", or something similar. | 04:42 |
| elky | an email to rt@ubottu.com or something would be less losable | 04:42 |
| h00k | do...um..we want to remove synical from here for the time bein, the? | 04:42 |
| h00k | then, rather. | 04:43 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, launchpad then gets to try talk them out of raising a bug, and asking things they don't need | 04:43 |
| gpc | Why can't some one on each RMB be given auth to request a cloak be applied? | 04:43 |
| elky | gpc, because we can't have that many GCs and still have the ircc with any? | 04:44 |
| tonyyarusso | elky: if you must you could easily implement a mail handler that would take their e-mail, shift things around and add fields to fit the launchpad new bugs e-mail format, and forward it along. | 04:44 |
| elky | tonyyarusso, thanks for volunteering. | 04:44 |
| tonyyarusso | :P | 04:44 |
| * tonyyarusso probably could, hrm | 04:44 | |
| tonyyarusso | Although a simplified web form would be even easier. | 04:44 |
| elky | i'm sure the sysadmin team would love their sysadmin rt's moved to launchpad too. | 04:45 |
| persia | gpc, There's several other non-RMB groups that can grant membership. | 04:45 |
| persia | elky, I know of a request to do that, but it's blocked on LP not supporting multiple queues in any sane way. | 04:45 |
| gpc | ok so, what is the problem with adding a few other people to do it. | 04:45 |
| gpc | 1- membership approved 2- add to proper team in launchpad 3- ask staff to apply cloak. | 04:46 |
| rww | there's no reason to. cloak processing is not bottlenecked by there not being enough GCs. | 04:46 |
| rww | not significantly, anyway | 04:46 |
| h00k | Can someone remove synical until they're ready to come back and discuss their bot in #ubuntu? | 04:46 |
| h00k | woo! | 04:47 |
| h00k | thanks. | 04:47 |
| elky | erm. that should probably have had a message. you might want to pm him to that regard. | 04:47 |
| h00k | will do | 04:48 |
| bazhang | * You have been invited to #KB1JWQtheLier by unmute_me` | 04:48 |
| KB1JWQ | bazhang: It gets better. | 04:48 |
| bazhang | should I join? | 04:48 |
| KB1JWQ | Apparently the last time I talked to him I "offered to make him freenode staff." | 04:48 |
| KB1JWQ | I didn't. | 04:49 |
| h00k | oh, nice. | 04:49 |
| h00k | CAN I HAZ STAFF | 04:49 |
| KB1JWQ | I forsee no problems with making him staff, does anyone else? :-p | 04:49 |
| bazhang | thats cobra2_ I'd guess | 04:49 |
| KB1JWQ | Indeed. | 04:49 |
| bazhang | hehe ...no! | 04:49 |
| KB1JWQ | "You there! You're a colossal pain in major channels, so do you mind if I unilaterally induct you into network staff?" | 04:50 |
| persia | sometimes it works. Responsibility does strange things to people. Mind you, it's only recommended in cases where the other options are equally stark. | 04:51 |
| rww | Responsibility does very strange things to people. Just look at funkyHat. | 04:52 |
| bazhang | absconded | 04:53 |
| elky | http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-02-03/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DilbertDailyStrip+(Dilbert+Daily+Strip) | 04:54 |
| rww | s/\?.*$// ;P | 04:54 |
| rww | also, this explains a lot. | 04:55 |
| bazhang | * You have been invited to #fffk by cobra2_ still no response via PM after the initial abrasive commentary | 05:29 |
| gpc | ExplodingPiglets needs a cool down period | 05:33 |
| bazhang | I've alerted freenode staff, he's doing in several channels on the network | 05:34 |
| ubottu | gpc called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 05:42 |
| gpc | hate doing that in there but sometimes it's the only way | 05:43 |
| Flannel | rww: Hour? or what? | 05:47 |
| rww | until he gets bored and goes to bed | 05:47 |
| ubottu | ExplodingPiglets called the ops in #ubuntu () | 05:51 |
| Flannel | gpc: Taking care of it | 06:53 |
| bazhang | * [culb] (freebsd@mindboggle.us): culb is a bot? | 06:53 |
| gpc | responds to google | 06:53 |
| gpc | err !google | 06:53 |
| * Flannel sighs. | 06:53 | |
| gpc | quieted for now | 06:53 |
| gpc | will msg and ask to turn it off | 06:54 |
| bazhang | * [Guest74074] (~nexus@host86-154-125-176.range86-154.btcentralplus.com): nexus ban forward? | 06:59 |
| gpc | no response from culb, told them to either come here or send me a PM when they have disabled the script. | 06:59 |
| gpc | bazhang: yes, I would. | 06:59 |
| gpc | as for culb I'm going to leave the +q for now. | 07:00 |
| Flannel | gpc: Suggest a ban instead of a quiet (banforward even). Quiets aren't apparent. If he misses your query, he'll never know he's quieted. | 07:00 |
| gpc | Flannel: ok will set a forward | 07:00 |
| gpc | keep an eye open for r007 | 07:04 |
| bazhang | was that guest r007 ? | 07:05 |
| gpc | don't think so | 07:05 |
| Flannel | Looks like it. | 07:07 |
| gpc | but he was giving suspect advice yesterday | 07:07 |
| Flannel | 22:57 -!- Guest74074 [~nexus@host86-154-125-176.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 07:07 |
| Flannel | 23:01 -!- r007 [~r007@host86-154-125-176.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu | 07:07 |
| bazhang | okay. searching in bt under 86-154 brings them both up | 07:07 |
| gpc | I didn't really look | 07:07 |
| Flannel | Would explain the chip on his shoulder | 07:07 |
| bazhang | then he immediately joined as r007 thereafter | 07:08 |
| bazhang | whoa, just prior | 07:09 |
| gpc | so if it takes two years to break a password he is not going to worry about it? | 07:37 |
| bazhang | like herding cats today :/ | 08:16 |
| Tm_T | jayne: that annoying guy now in #freenode... he's there only for causing disruption | 09:16 |
| * Tm_T waves to all the log readers out there | 09:16 | |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, yuvateja said: ubottu: where is the volume applet present? | 11:26 |
| AbhijiT | is there anyone handling ubuntu free cd to whome i can talk about a thing? | 11:32 |
| AbhijiT | or email? | 11:32 |
| jpds | AbhijiT: shipit.ubuntu.com? | 11:33 |
| AbhijiT | yeah | 11:33 |
| AbhijiT | but jpds actually thing is i need to talk about how much should i order in bulk? so that it get approved? i am giving seminar in front of frends and teachers | 11:33 |
| AbhijiT | they all are from computer field. | 11:33 |
| jpds | You would have to talk to your local community team. | 11:34 |
| AbhijiT | okay | 11:34 |
| AbhijiT | i wil talk to ubuntu india then. | 11:35 |
| AbhijiT | thanks jpds | 11:35 |
| AbhijiT | bye | 11:35 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, Loller said: ubottu: it is not the 43 | 12:37 |
| Pici | its 42! | 13:03 |
| jpds | Pici: It's* | 13:22 |
| Pici | I always mess that up. | 13:22 |
| ikonia | be thankful gord or rww is not awake to punish grammar | 13:23 |
| Pici | Now that you've pinged them they might be. | 13:24 |
| gord | i would never punish grammar =\ | 13:24 |
| jpds | Pici: You should learn Russian. | 13:26 |
| jpds | Pici: They just say: "It 42" - so awesome. | 13:27 |
| persia | Having a special verb to indicate predicates is for unevolved languages :) | 13:28 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, iuri said: ubottu, and this one is to purge emacs22 | 14:08 |
| Pici | meh | 14:33 |
| * genii-around makes a pot of coffee | 15:05 | |
| bazhang | Bipul`, hi | 15:09 |
| ikonia | hello Jungli | 15:09 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, i am not jungli i am Bipul` | 15:09 |
| Bipul` | i think you have to google this word "jungli" | 15:09 |
| ikonia | interesting, you switched user in #ubuntu-in from Blockcold the other day, while wearing a cloak | 15:09 |
| Bipul` | what ? | 15:10 |
| Bipul` | bazhang, hi | 15:10 |
| Bipul` | i am not Blockcold | 15:10 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: you joined #ubuntu-in the other day as the cloakded user, switched user to bigpul` and then said "hi ikonia" | 15:10 |
| jpds | Hmm. | 15:11 |
| Bipul` | i dont know what you saying but one statment i understand that that i have said you hi | 15:11 |
| Bipul` | yes i do said that | 15:11 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, May i know the valid reasone ? | 15:13 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: the reason I've just said | 15:13 |
| Bipul` | what ? | 15:13 |
| Bipul` | <ikonia> Bipul`: you joined #ubuntu-in the other day as the cloakded user, switched user to bigpul` and then said "hi ikonia"<-- this is the reasone ? guys any one can understand this then please make me understood | 15:13 |
| ikonia | you joined #ubuntu-in using a known nickname for the user "jungli" changed nicknames to bipul` and said "hi ikonia" | 15:13 |
| ikonia | you're ident also is a variation of what the user jungli uses | 15:14 |
| * jpds understands it. | 15:14 | |
| Bipul` | jungli means forest man | 15:14 |
| ikonia | you also knew to join this channel when I banned you from #ubuntu-ops | 15:14 |
| Bipul` | and this language is widely used as a name | 15:14 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, my freind told me to join this channel | 15:15 |
| Bipul` | and ask the reasone behind it | 15:15 |
| ikonia | who told you that ? | 15:15 |
| Bipul` | ubuntu-in users | 15:16 |
| Bipul` | told me when i told about this incident | 15:16 |
| ikonia | where ? | 15:16 |
| ikonia | who | 15:16 |
| ikonia | who ? | 15:17 |
| Bipul` | who means what i just told this incident in ubuntu-in | 15:17 |
| ikonia | who told you | 15:17 |
| ikonia | I'm in #ubuntu-in and no-one told you to join | 15:17 |
| ikonia | so who told you to join | 15:17 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: please come back when you are in a position to answer the questions | 15:18 |
| Bipul` | <shadeslayer> | 15:19 |
| Bipul` | shadelayer told me | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | \o | 15:20 |
| ikonia | shadeslayer, thank you for joining, did you tell Bipul` to join #ubuntu-ops ? | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 15:21 |
| ikonia | ok, apologies for asking you to join to clarify that, I just wanted it logged on record | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | i told him to talk to you :) | 15:21 |
| ikonia | shadeslayer: you're of course welcome to leave and I apologise for taking up your time | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | righto | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | ikonia: sure .. no problem :) | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | cya guys :) | 15:21 |
| ikonia | thanks | 15:21 |
| Bipul` | ? | 15:21 |
| ikonia | shadeslayer did not ask you to join this channel | 15:21 |
| Bipul` | abhijit | 15:22 |
| ikonia | actually, I'm not wasting any more time with this | 15:22 |
| Bipul` | just call this nick here | 15:22 |
| Bipul` | AbhijiT> Bipul`, contact #ubuntu-ops | 15:22 |
| ikonia | I saw you swap nicks from blockcold the other day and say my name, and it was reported to freenode, they know the situation, I'll follow this up with freenode | 15:22 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, listen man when i said i am not the "i am not" | 15:23 |
| ikonia | I don't believe you so I'm going to leave that there. | 15:23 |
| Bipul` | now do what ever you want i don't caer | 15:23 |
| Bipul` | bye | 15:23 |
| bazhang | bushman is not following the forums thread for his issue that has been provided to him by Gnea and I | 15:26 |
| ikonia | I know | 15:26 |
| ikonia | I don't think he's being honest | 15:26 |
| bazhang | there are at least two suggested fixes in that thread | 15:27 |
| ikonia | is it actually known problem with this device ? | 15:27 |
| bazhang | seems that just checking/unchecking the bluetooth support checkbox does it | 15:30 |
| ikonia | it can't be that simple ? | 15:30 |
| bazhang | but he has not run any of that, nor done any of the suggested commands. it's worked since at least hardy | 15:31 |
| ikonia | freenode are checking on bipul` and jungli's multiple cloak stuff as that's not allowed | 15:38 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 15:40 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Abhinav1 appears to be abusive - 4) | 15:53 |
| bazhang | have them both in PM | 16:04 |
| Pici | hm? | 16:04 |
| bazhang | gnea / bushman | 16:04 |
| Pici | ah | 16:04 |
| bazhang | he was targeting ikonia earlier, now gnea | 16:05 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Eysyss appears to be abusive - 4) | 16:06 |
| Pici | thanks idoru | 16:07 |
| mneptok | sex and sex and sex and sex and LOOKIT ME! I BEEN SHATTERED! | 16:07 |
| mneptok | sha-dooby | 16:08 |
| Pici | :D | 16:08 |
| bazhang | well they're both ignoring my advice to stop responding to one another | 16:09 |
| bazhang | * [Compositor] (~timmyt@pool-72-91-149-20.tampfl.fios.verizon.net): Apples Oranges Kiwi seems to be hoober etal | 16:27 |
| Pici | bazhang, maco: thanks | 16:28 |
| bazhang | Pici, it was maco who spotted | 16:28 |
| bazhang | he asking for a cloak recently as well | 16:29 |
| rww | It makes me happy that he appears to only have access to a small number of hostnames. | 16:31 |
| Pici | shhh ;) | 16:32 |
| bazhang | nogo seems to be going ot in +1 | 16:41 |
| bazhang | ie user guest from earlier | 16:41 |
| Pici | ugh, hes in #ubuntu-release too.. /me watches | 16:42 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, can i pm you ? | 16:47 |
| ikonia | 1 moment | 16:48 |
| Bipul` | ok | 16:48 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, ? | 16:52 |
| ikonia | 1 moment please | 16:57 |
| Bipul` | ok | 16:57 |
| ikonia | ok, I'm free now, I was just on the phone | 16:58 |
| Bipul` | well but i am not jungli :| | 17:00 |
| ikonia | ok. I may be wrong, but I disagree. | 17:00 |
| Bipul` | it's just a nick and also i have mine ssh account with name jungli s0 some time i login irc via my ssh account | 17:00 |
| Bipul` | the word jungli means "Forest man" mogli | 17:01 |
| ikonia | ok, but that doesn't change anything | 17:01 |
| Bipul` | it's a popular nick | 17:01 |
| Bipul` | yes but what i did? | 17:01 |
| Bipul` | and i do remember i saw you in ubuntu-in | 17:02 |
| Bipul` | and i said hellow to you | 17:02 |
| ikonia | again, that doesn't change anything | 17:02 |
| Bipul` | no but what i did? | 17:02 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: I believe you are the user "jungli" who is a known problem user in ubuntu, I have put a ban on you in #ubuntu at this time | 17:03 |
| Bipul` | it's really important channel (ubuntu) for me and you have banned me | 17:03 |
| Bipul` | i am making a module for familiar with linux and i get most of help from #ubuntu | 17:04 |
| Bipul` | for mine college | 17:04 |
| ikonia | I'm sorry about that, if any of the others feel I am likley wrong, they can remove the ban and I offer my sincere apologies to you, but based on the information I have I believe you are jungli | 17:04 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, but i am not ! | 17:04 |
| Bipul` | I AM NOT JUNGLI jungli is just a nick | 17:04 |
| ikonia | ok, I disagree on that, | 17:04 |
| bazhang | yeah thats really offensive | 17:05 |
| bazhang | bobmarley | 17:05 |
| ikonia | he's gone | 17:05 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, i have helped many peoples | 17:05 |
| Bipul` | in ubuntu channels | 17:05 |
| ikonia | that doesn't change anything. | 17:05 |
| ikonia | I have asked freenode to also look into this | 17:05 |
| ikonia | if they come back with an opinion that you are not the same user, then again, I offer my sincere apologies, but I have to trust the information I have | 17:06 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, yes most welcome | 17:06 |
| Bipul` | if you have the logs just go through that | 17:06 |
| ikonia | that proves nothing | 17:06 |
| Bipul` | ok fine then you must ask to freenode | 17:06 |
| Bipul` | as this channel #ubuntu is really important for me | 17:06 |
| Bipul` | no i will wait for the freenode report | 17:07 |
| Bipul` | you take you time | 17:07 |
| Tm_T | Bipul`: you have used the nick "Vipul" too, right? | 17:07 |
| Bipul` | yes | 17:07 |
| Bipul` | i use this nick vipul | 17:07 |
| Tm_T | roger, just checking | 17:07 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: ok, I'll take a gamble, I'll remove the ban in #ubuntu | 17:12 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: I have removed the ban in #ubuntu | 17:13 |
| bazhang | <smallfoot> bazhang, where is for complaints? | 17:13 |
| ikonia | direct him in | 17:14 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, no but you 1st clear you doubt | 17:14 |
| ikonia | I have to put faith in your intentions | 17:14 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: I can't, that's the issue, | 17:15 |
| Bipul` | if this nick really harms the ubuntu community then you must ask the report of freenode ops | 17:15 |
| ikonia | I have already done that, but that will take time to resolve, so I can either have faith in you and remove the ban, as I have done, or leave you banned | 17:15 |
| smallfoot | hi im here cuz bazhang has asked me to come here by special invitation | 17:15 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: you asked where to make a complaint ? | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | i have ubuntu 10.10 maverick | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | yes | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | i would like copmlain | 17:16 |
| bazhang | smallfoot, you need not complain in #ubuntu | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | oh | 17:16 |
| ikonia | oh, wait | 17:16 |
| ikonia | is this a complaint about ubuntu ? | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | yes | 17:16 |
| ikonia | or the ubuntu channel | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | the ubuntu | 17:16 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: ok, well there is no complaints channel for the OS, it's a free community project | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | i have 10.10 and im upset that i must have 2.6.35 kernel | 17:16 |
| smallfoot | i want have 2.6.37 | 17:16 |
| bazhang | he's done this before as well though | 17:16 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: you can log bugs or feature requests on launchpad.net | 17:16 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: sorry, launchpad.net is the website you need to log a bug or feature request | 17:17 |
| smallfoot | yeah so if i post on launchpad that i want 2.6.37, someone will give it? | 17:17 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: no, but it becomes an option that someone may chose to work on | 17:17 |
| smallfoot | well then linus puts out 2.6.38 | 17:17 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, thanks alot | 17:17 |
| smallfoot | and what i must do? tell everyone again to put 2.6.38 on my computer | 17:17 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: ok | 17:17 |
| Bipul` | :) | 17:18 |
| smallfoot | this is always same thing!! | 17:18 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: no, you don't update the kernels as they come out | 17:18 |
| smallfoot | always i must wait, wait, wait and have old boring crap technology from leacy old | 17:18 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: either way, this isn't a support channel, | 17:18 |
| smallfoot | i can never ever have new stuff | 17:18 |
| popey | you can | 17:18 |
| smallfoot | why i must have old stuff? give me new stuff! | 17:18 |
| popey | i just told you how in #ubuntu | 17:18 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: launchpad.net is the place to log feature requests | 17:18 |
| ikonia | bazhang: apologies, I missunderstood what was meant by complaint | 17:20 |
| ikonia | Bipul`: if you're ok now, you can leave this channel | 17:21 |
| jpds | smallfoot: why exactly do you want .38? | 17:21 |
| bazhang | ikonia, well he always does this, best to get it done in here | 17:21 |
| Bipul` | ikonia, yes :) | 17:21 |
| Bipul` | bye | 17:21 |
| smallfoot | jpds, cuz it has faster performance!! | 17:22 |
| smallfoot | it has integrated desktop responsive performance | 17:22 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: you've been told how to log a feature request, | 17:22 |
| ikonia | so unless you need something more from the operator time, you're welcome to leave this channel and go back to your irc day | 17:23 |
| smallfoot | ok | 17:24 |
| smallfoot | you only want trick me to make launchpad post | 17:24 |
| smallfoot | then they will ignore it | 17:24 |
| jpds | Potentially. | 17:24 |
| ikonia | then we can't help any more | 17:24 |
| smallfoot | like if anyone will listen to me on launchpad and make 2.6.37 on maverick for me? | 17:24 |
| ikonia | smallfoot: we are not a support channel | 17:24 |
| smallfoot | they will put on NEW then CLOSED | 17:24 |
| ikonia | there isn't much point discussing this more | 17:24 |
| smallfoot | ok | 17:24 |
| Tm_T | smallfoot: they will listen you there more than here | 17:24 |
| smallfoot | okbye | 17:24 |
| jpds | But if you want the latest features and bleeding edge stuff, you have to run the dev release. | 17:24 |
| ikonia | he just wants version numbers | 17:25 |
| bazhang | he's been banned multiple times for that | 17:25 |
| ikonia | oh really, I didn't check BT | 17:25 |
| bazhang | smallfoot- | 17:25 |
| jpds | I like the route he's taking with jrib. | 17:25 |
| ikonia | if he knows what he's doing is wrong, then end it | 17:27 |
| jrib | aww | 17:29 |
| jrib | oh well have to go anyway | 17:29 |
| bazhang | bobmarley promised to stop using the hindi curses / abuse in #ubuntu via PM | 17:30 |
| ikonia | great | 17:30 |
| bazhang | ie I was in PM with him | 17:30 |
| mneptok | lively up yourself. | 17:30 |
| KB1JWQ | My day helping out in #ubuntu yesterday inspired me to pick up my (untouched for 8 months) netbook and upgrade the version of Lucid instsalled on it. | 17:32 |
| KB1JWQ | ..at which point it proceeded to eat itself. | 17:32 |
| jrib | feature | 17:32 |
| KB1JWQ | I figured as much. :-) | 17:33 |
| KB1JWQ | "Keep Linux in the datacenter where it belongs" is the subtext from that discussion. :-p | 17:33 |
| Tm_T | FYI: I might be unavailable due to power outages so don't count on me (; | 17:37 |
| h00k | I'm on hold and the coffee is way over there *points* | 17:37 |
| jono | can someone please +m #ubuntu-meeting | 17:40 |
| pleia2 | additionally, would it be possible to get the ubuntu member cloak added to the access list there? | 17:41 |
| Tm_T | pleia2: +1 (x10) | 17:41 |
| bazhang | popey, has access there | 17:42 |
| jono | is there no op who can fix this now? | 17:43 |
| ikonia | maybe it should fall under the core channels | 17:44 |
| ikonia | not got ops in there any more, I had it at the last but one UDS | 17:44 |
| Tm_T | KB1JWQ: you up? | 17:45 |
| ikonia | mquin: is around | 17:46 |
| ikonia | just pinged | 17:46 |
| Tm_T | rogery | 17:46 |
| KB1JWQ | Howdy. | 17:47 |
| KB1JWQ | What did we need done? | 17:47 |
| h00k | +m in #ubuntu-meeting | 17:48 |
| h00k | KB1JWQ: ^ | 17:48 |
| h00k | Thanks, KB1JWQ | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | we moved to -classroom | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | no need now | 17:49 |
| bazhang | hehe | 17:49 |
| KB1JWQ | Want anyone opped? | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | KB1JWQ: the chat moved to -classroom, -meeting doesn't need to be moderated anymore | 17:50 |
| KB1JWQ | Okay, sorted. :-) | 17:50 |
| pleia2 | it would be nice if we could get the ubutu member cloak added to the access list in -meeting though (I can formally send an email to the IRCC if required) | 17:50 |
| KB1JWQ | What's the chat on? | 17:50 |
| ikonia | no | 17:50 |
| KB1JWQ | pleia2: Probably best to go about it that way. | 17:51 |
| ikonia | the ubuntu/member cloak should not be added to any access list | 17:51 |
| pleia2 | KB1JWQ: thanks, will do | 17:51 |
| ikonia | it's persistantly abused | 17:51 |
| KB1JWQ | (And this is why!) | 17:51 |
| ikonia | hence why it was removed | 17:51 |
| pleia2 | oh :\ | 17:51 |
| pleia2 | it works great in -classroom | 17:51 |
| KB1JWQ | Should probably get some folks added to the ACL so y'all can handle such things going forward. | 17:52 |
| KB1JWQ | I don't mind doing it any, but there are times when we're busy / not around. | 17:52 |
| * pleia2 nods | 17:52 | |
| KB1JWQ | (+m'ing places, specifically) | 17:52 |
| h00k | #ubuntu-meeting appears to be a mess :( | 17:54 |
| KB1JWQ | It does. | 17:56 |
| genii-around | Bleh. Work has me running around and these guys keep recommending to a user in #k to do sudo su | 19:06 |
| bazhang | well hes just being obtuse at this point | 19:11 |
| bazhang | he's trolling at this point | 19:20 |
| bazhang | kde is more compatible with hardware | 19:20 |
| ikonia | no more of this | 19:20 |
| KB1JWQ | Idle curiosity, what's wrong with sudo su? | 19:23 |
| KB1JWQ | It's about on par with sudo bash. | 19:23 |
| bazhang | sudo -i for root shell | 19:23 |
| ikonia | KB1JWQ: messes up the env | 19:23 |
| KB1JWQ | Well sudo su - solves that issue. | 19:23 |
| KB1JWQ | bazhang: Didn't know that one offhand. | 19:23 |
| ikonia | yes, that would populate the env properly | 19:23 |
| ikonia | KB1JWQ: it also writes stuff to /root | 19:24 |
| bazhang | hes still at it | 19:29 |
| ikonia | not for long | 19:32 |
| bazhang | dat <tab> :) | 19:32 |
| bazhang | cakeIRC (~timmyt@unaffiliated/cakeirc) hoober is now cloaked | 19:47 |
| genii-around | I don't think #k-u has had such lively discussion as now for a long time :) | 19:48 |
| KB1JWQ | Ah, he requested the cloak to evade, bazhang? | 19:49 |
| gpc | yes | 19:49 |
| Flannel | Eh, it's easy to ban the cloak | 19:49 |
| bazhang | KB1JWQ, already got a ban in place so no worries | 19:49 |
| KB1JWQ | I can decloak if that's easier. | 19:50 |
| bazhang | perhaps he will be a better citizen with it | 19:50 |
| KB1JWQ | Why was he actually banned in the first place? | 19:55 |
| KB1JWQ | I'm not clear on that. :-) | 19:56 |
| ikonia | do you want th elist | 19:56 |
| ikonia | the list | 19:56 |
| KB1JWQ | Hilights maybe? :-) | 19:56 |
| bazhang | nearly 40 nicks ban evasion on multiples of them | 19:56 |
| ikonia | constant ranting and tolling, abusive, language, attitude | 19:56 |
| gpc | hoober, goober, orangecard, OzoneScaredyMan, LesBooter, peronni, circlecrossdev, tartarfoofas, MorganMuffler, cromblight, IKnowWhoIAm, cromblight_, FeetAndCloth, vimber, DrummerBoy38, OzoneScaredyPant, foober, OzoneScaredyMan_, Roobet, brown_boar, TurmptTarp, Callico10, TuskRattle, bearblack_, Shoasdf, silvercrab, circlecrossdev, DrummerBoy38, foober, cromblight, prosper005, tartarfoofas, cakeIRC | 19:56 |
| gpc | that is all the ones I have | 19:56 |
| bazhang | but hopefully with something to lose he'll reform | 19:56 |
| maco | gpc: Compositor was added to the list today | 20:00 |
| gpc | heh | 20:00 |
| gpc | thank you | 20:00 |
| maco | gpc: you have cromblight twice | 20:00 |
| gpc | yeah I saw that | 20:00 |
| gpc | thought I was going to shorten the list by removing cromblight instead I added two more | 20:01 |
| tonyyarusso | What kind of megafail by staff allowed him to get a cloak? | 20:04 |
| Tm_T | tonyyarusso: errr, they should be following our pet trolls as closely as we do? | 20:05 |
| tonyyarusso | Presumabely he's probably trolling other places to at this rate. | 20:05 |
| bazhang | not really | 20:05 |
| tonyyarusso | huh | 20:05 |
| bazhang | obsessed with ubuntu it seems | 20:05 |
| KB1JWQ | Precisely. I didn't correlate it until just now. | 20:11 |
| Tm_T | tonyyarusso: but really, it's our failing that we don't keep staff informed if anything (: | 20:12 |
| gpc | seems our days are numbered | 20:12 |
| * gpc starts counting | 20:12 | |
| bazhang | he only bothers #freenode apart from #ubuntu channels that I have seen | 20:13 |
| gpc | @mark #ubuntu leftist (~dizzy@adsl-92-132-79.asm.bellsouth.net) leftist> i also wanted to say that there are a couple of punk ass op's in here and your days are numbered you asswhipes. | 20:14 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 20:14 |
| bazhang | jbib1 | 20:15 |
| maco | bazhang: did you also get that what that person said to me was "thanks, i know"? | 20:24 |
| maco | apparently i know just enough russian to recognise insolence? | 20:25 |
| bazhang | maco, yes, they were disrupting | 20:25 |
| rww | ikonia: any examples of *!*@ubuntu/member/* being abused? The only one I've ever heard about is people failing at operating in #ubuntu-release-party. | 21:46 |
| rww | KB1JWQ: assuming I'm reading /whowas and nickserv right, thanks very much for removing cakeIRC's cloak. | 21:51 |
| KB1JWQ | rww: No worries, although it was based upon violations of network policy. :-) | 21:57 |
| popey | rww: I'd be interested in hearing about people abusing their ubuntu cloak | 22:02 |
| gpc | I don't recall ever seeing abuse of that sort | 22:02 |
| rww | It was less abuse and more idiocy, if memory serves. Either way, it's why ubuntu/member lost access in #u-r-p. | 22:03 |
| popey | didnt realise it had | 22:03 |
| Flannel | There was one guy in -r-p a few cycles ago that was just bad at being an operator, abuse of privledge, etc. | 22:03 |
| gpc | failing at opping is not a crime | 22:03 |
| gpc | it happens to the best of us | 22:03 |
| Flannel | gpc: No, it's not. But it's why the cloak hasn't given privledges in -r-p since | 22:03 |
| gpc | instead of removing the privilege from all it should be used as an example of how not to act. | 22:05 |
| tonyyarusso | gpc++ | 22:05 |
| rww | dangit. by the time I found my BT login, I forgot what I wanted to look for in there. | 22:06 |
| Flannel | rww: puppies | 22:07 |
| gpc | I can understand the lapse of judgement in a case where you have never had ops and go a little power happy. | 22:07 |
| gpc | why you looking for your bt login | 22:08 |
| gpc | why not just @btlogin and get a new one | 22:08 |
| rww | because generating new ones when I have valid old ones is silly ;O | 22:08 |
| gpc | ok | 22:08 |
| rww | oh, that's right. I removed the cakeirc cloak ban and was going to comment that it was just because that cloak doesn't exist any more. | 22:09 |
| rww | gpc: there are only about 340282367000000000000000000000000000000 possible session URLs. We have to conserve resources ;) | 22:27 |
| gpc | it all ends in 2012 anyway not to mention the 60 trillion tone asteroid hurling towards earth | 22:28 |
| Tm_T | gpc: no, 2018 when moon nazis come | 22:29 |
| gpc | Don't we have enough to worry about | 22:29 |
| gpc | bazhang: obvious troll with that nick | 22:30 |
| gpc | I just removed them from #u | 22:30 |
| rww | gpc: am I missing something in BT ID 37156? looks like uranus_gas_giant joined #ubuntu right after pauline used bad language, said nothing, and you removed uranus_gas_giant instead of pauline :\ | 22:46 |
| gpc | the nick/ident combo is offensive imo | 22:47 |
| gpc | or atleast not family friendly | 22:48 |
| gpc | I gave pauline !language and they didn't say anything afterwards and chose to part the channel | 22:49 |
| rww | ah. Our definitions of "offensive nick" differ; explains why I was confused. | 22:50 |
| gpc | if I am wrong about the nick/ident please tell me | 22:50 |
| rww | I think you're wrong, but it's a subjective rule, not an objective one. | 22:50 |
| gpc | yeah offensive is probably not the right word but family friendly I still don't think it is | 22:51 |
| rww | either way, if you didn't PM them explaining why you removed them, it might be a good idea. Unless I'm just dense and normal people would have figured it out. | 22:52 |
| rww | although apparently they care more about being silly in -ot anyway. | 22:53 |
| gpc | seems so | 22:53 |
| gpc | no I didn't pm. I did give them !guidelines which iirc mentions something about being family friendly ' | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | rww: similar to u r anus in english? | 22:54 |
| gpc | had the ident not been buttman I probably would not have removed them | 22:54 |
| rww | charlie-tca: I know. | 22:55 |
| maco | its like the first episode of space cases. teacher is doing rolecall. "bova from...uranus?" "i hate being from uranus. im the butt of every joke!" | 23:18 |
| Flannel | gpc: Not everyone receives the contents of part messages, you should never rely on that. | 23:22 |
| Flannel | Also, it would've been nice to query first, asking for a nick change prior to actual action being taken. | 23:22 |
| Flannel | Could be a perfectly reasonable fellow | 23:22 |
| tsimpson | Flannel: ubottu looks for factoids in removals and will /msg them | 23:35 |
| Flannel | tsimpson: I'm glad we have a bot that enables us to be lazy. | 23:36 |
| tsimpson | it's a feature, it's not supposed to be a replacement for people actually talking | 23:37 |
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