[05:04] <slangasek> lamont: are you sure gourd has that 30GB of swap enabled?  cross-compiling that same failing qemu object using gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi takes "only" 3.2GB of RAM, and the previous build got well past this point in the compile running on hubbard
[05:05] <slangasek> (I'm currently trying to confirm how much memory used to build on ARM, but as I have much less than 30GB swap hooked up at the moment, it's taking some time to do so)
[08:02] <pitti> skaet: congratulations for alpha-2!
[08:02] <pitti> jdstrand: thnaks for your great help as well; got the hang of untangling the archive now? :-)
[09:27] <pitti> dpm: hello
[09:27] <dpm> pitti, so we were discussing that if we request a full export of Lucid language packs today, they should be available on the PPA on Monday,
[09:27] <dpm> the 7th
[09:27] <pitti> cjwatson, skaet, ara: currently discussing updated langpacks for lucid -- do we still want them?
[09:27] <pitti> or is it too late?
[09:29] <ara> I don't see much trouble on it, but I guess is skaet who should be deciding :)
[09:29] <pitti> either way, we build the CDs from -updates now, so I think we can safely have them in -proposed
[09:29] <pitti> and then see if we can get them into -updates quick enough?
[09:29] <ara> pitti, indeed
[09:30] <pitti> dpm: so, I think you should request the full export anyway, and we'll get it into -proposed ASAP
[09:30] <pitti> it won't happen before Monday anyway
[09:31] <pitti> so we can still discuss that in today's release meeting
[09:33] <dpm> pitti, that sounds good, full langpack request done. When is today's release meeting? I'd like to announce this as early as possible today to translators, so that they still have some time to do any fixes or new translations before the time of the export at 22:00 UTC
[09:34] <pitti> dpm: it's at 1600 UTC
[09:35] <dpm> pitti, ok, thanks. Shall I attend, or will you bring up the subject at the meeting?
[09:35] <pitti> dpm: I'll bring it up
[09:35]  * dpm hugs pitti
[09:35] <pitti> you can still attend if you want to, of course, but I don't think it's required
[09:36]  * pitti hugs you back
[09:36] <dpm> ok, sounds good, I'll be idling here and read the log
[09:59] <apw> pitti, did we release, want to upload a new kernel if we are un-frozed
[10:00] <pitti> apw: sure, go ahead
[10:02] <apw> pitti, thanks, will do when these final tests are done
[10:32] <cjwatson> pitti: updated langpacks seem worth it
[10:34] <pitti> we aren't oversized ATM, so at least we aren't pressed to take them if anything should go wrong
[11:54] <lamont>  cat /proc/swaps
[11:54] <lamont> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority
[11:54] <lamont> /dev/sda2                               partition       30708236        16524  -1
[11:55] <lamont> slangasek: ^^
[13:14] <ScottK> skaet and cjwatson: I've gotten positive test results for the Kubuntu live powerpc image for Alpha 2.  Would it still be possible to release that as well?
[13:18] <cjwatson> don't see why not
[13:18] <cjwatson> pitti: do you have the publish-release command line you used to hand?  I don't know if you had to do anything non-trivial
[13:19] <pitti> cjwatson: actually not, I just took the publish-image-set.py output
[13:19] <pitti> I went through it, and it seemed to be just fine
[13:23] <cjwatson> oh, powerpc wouldn't have been on iso.qa
[13:23] <cjwatson> I'll figure out how to publish the Kubuntu image, then
[13:24] <persia> With luck, that ought be fixed for Alpha 3 (unless priorities change between then and now)
[13:26] <cjwatson> ScottK: published (modulo mirror syncing)
[13:28] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks.
[13:48] <jdstrand> pitti: hehe, thanks! I'm not sure I could untangle just anything, but yeah I feel pretty good about it overall :)
[15:01] <skaet> pitti,  ara,  if we can get the langpacks in that would be good.  :)
[15:02] <pitti> skaet: ok, so we are all in agreement; we'll kick them in ASAP
[15:02] <skaet> :)
[15:08] <skaet> ScottK,  great to hear that the Kubuntu live PowerPC image is looking good.   Thank you cjwatson for making it available :)
[15:18] <ara> skaet, how was LCA? did you have a good time? How was your talk?
[15:19] <skaet> ara, LCA was great.  The quality of the talks there is great, and there are always multiple things I want to see simultaneously.
[15:20] <ara> great :)
[15:20] <skaet> ara,  was really inspiring how well the team in Brisbane managed to make it happen with so few glitches after having to move it the week before due to the original venu being flooded.
[15:21] <skaet> 700 person conference shifting venues, and having wifi and infrastructure working, as well as room logistics, etc.
[15:22] <skaet> Open Day at the end was fun too.   Got to meet some of the Australian loco team members and help out at the booth.   Good trip, but glad to be home  (and A2 out the door!!!)
[15:23] <seb128> skaet, not going to fosdem today? ;-)
[15:25] <skaet> seb128, with the roads in Austin having ice on them, and snow on the ground - very glad not to have to travel!!  :)
[15:25] <seb128> ;-)
[15:55]  * skaet heading over to #ubuntu-meeting for release team meeting in 5 mintues...
[16:03] <slangasek> lamont: ok, so it's something that's not even reproducible with a cross-compiler :/  I'll keep poking at it then
[16:04] <lamont> I heard rumblings of a gcc-bug accusation rumor.  those generally tend to be people throwing straws though
[16:04] <lamont> how far into the build does it die?
[16:04] <lamont> because if you kick it off, I can go peek at it while it's running
[16:04] <lamont> though I'm about to afk to do the townward transition and grab breakfast
[16:11] <slangasek> lamont: well, the most recent build got 1h17min in; the one before that got much farther
[16:16] <lamont> could be hitting a corner case in the vm subsystem during the swapwars, too
[16:16] <slangasek> do you want me to kick one off now?
[16:16] <lamont> I don't suppose it's somewhere convenient, like a test suite we could disable?
[16:16] <slangasek> or should I wait until after breakfast?
[16:17] <slangasek> no, it's when building the core of the emulator
[16:17] <lamont> kick it in about 30 min?
[16:17] <slangasek> can do
[16:17] <lamont> how... inconvenient.
[16:17] <slangasek> it's using memory at exactly the place it should use memory
[16:17] <slangasek> just not 30GB of memory :)
[16:17] <lamont> right
[16:17] <lamont> poke me when you kick it to remind me, if you would
[16:17] <slangasek> will do, thanks
[16:18] <lamont> forecasted high/low: 46, 25.  current temp: 14
[16:18] <lamont> this is fail
[16:18]  * lamont grabs his coat, afks
[16:19] <charlie-tca> hm, warm there, too
[16:20] <nogo> ram disk is awesome
[16:53] <slangasek> lamont: qemu-linaro retry scheduled; estimated start in 4h
[17:05] <dpm> hi pitti, what was the output on the discussion re: the lucid langpacks in the release meeting? I had to disconnect for a while, and I couldn't follow it
[17:05] <dpm> s/output/outcome/
[17:06] <pitti> dpm: already discussed before with skaet and cjwatson, we all agree
[17:06] <pitti> dpm: so let's get them into -proposed on Monday, and test them fast
[17:07] <dpm> pitti, sounds great. Any suggestions on the day testing should be finished and we upload them to -updates? I'll then inform translators/testers
[17:08] <pitti> dpm: ideally end of next week, as it's getting tight with final image validation
[17:08] <pitti> dpm: Monday the week after (14.) might just barely make it still
[17:08] <pitti> would one week be enough for the ~ 10 langs we ship on the CDs?
[17:09] <pitti> dpm: I guess we could at least install them and check if they boot into a non-crashing desktop and can run update-manager
[17:09] <pitti> dpm: that won't catch "bad looking" strings, but at least "ill-formatted" ones
[17:09] <dpm> pitti, do we really ship that many on the CD?
[17:10] <pitti> dpm: I didn't actually count; but it's different for each architecture and flavour
[17:10] <dpm> but yeah, I think the ones we ship are from active teams
[17:10] <dpm> brb, on a call
[17:19] <skaet> dpm, earlier next week the better for the testing results.  possibly let us know as they come in, rather than batch at the end.
[17:29] <dpm> skaet, I can definitely do that, and tell translators as well that they should provide the feedback as soon as possible, but in addition to that, it works better if they know a deadline, as in e.g.: "you've got until Thursday to test these packages"
[17:30] <skaet> dpm,  sounds good.  Thursday would be a good point to pick.  But feel free to let them know earlier is better ;)
[17:31] <dpm> yeah, I'll do that, thanks skaet!