[00:00] I don't remember ever running the client on linux [00:00] a server, yeh [00:00] brb [00:01] k [00:04] bk [00:14] evening everyone. === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [03:30] hi, I have a problem, if I hit 'hibernate' it will work the first time, but after resuming it won't work again, the screens go blank and the system freezes so i need to reset it. anyone have any idea? [04:04] * ball <- running Xubuntu [04:19] It's time to put the kettle on. [05:40] ball: excellent idea [05:46] MartijnVdS: wow your still up? [05:46] HazRPG: no, I'm already up [05:47] I think I may have lost a day... playing minecraft >_< [05:47] only just looked at the time now >_< [05:47] HazRPG: uninstall! uninstall! [05:47] lol [05:47] vr feb 4 05:47:25 UTC 2011 [05:47] HazRPG: ^ [05:47] IKR! [05:48] I looked at it and went... hang on a sec, didn't I start playing at 5pm!?!? [05:48] >_< [05:48] oh well [05:48] tis fun [05:48] HazRPG: don't blame us if you fail exams/get fired/etc. ;) [05:49] mobs really really frustrate me tho [05:49] heh, how can i blame anyone but myself [05:49] HazRPG: the people here told you to try it ;) [05:49] I've heard about minecraft for a while - just never played it until recently. [05:50] MartijnVdS: true... but I was considering playing it anyways xD [05:50] it was the price that swayed me mainly [05:51] I thought "if I wait... and get it later... I'll regret not having bought it when it was cheap" [05:51] however... I was also thinking... "I still have lots of other games, that I still haven't played" [05:52] in the end, since popey had his own server up... thought why the hell not xD [05:52] oops... oh well... [05:52] I'll just have to make sure I don't double-click it as often... [05:53] or better yet! Setup a task so that the shortcuts only show up after a certain time xD [05:53] and another one, to auto-kill it at a certain time, and also hide shortcuts xD [05:54] plan! [05:54] already have such things in place for games I use to be addicted to [05:55] * HazRPG should maybe lay off the caffeine [05:56] MartijnVdS: I'm off to bed, before I find more things to do in minecraft... [05:56] nn [06:49] morning [06:56] Morning AlanBell :) [07:48] G'morning! [07:49] morning :) [08:01] * BigRedS needs something that breaks more obviously when the connection disappears [08:05] BigRedS: +1 [08:07] It has before got to ~11am before I've noticed that all the timestamps in this dead channel are at about 3am, when for whatever reason I disconnected from he ssh session [08:13] heh I've been braving #ubuntu for a few mins, not going to last long in there.. [08:14] hello all [08:15] morning MooDoo :) [08:23] Morning MooDoo screen-x [08:35] Morning all [08:36] mornign Compacthack :) [08:37] BigRedS: ServerAliveInterval in ~/.ssh/config (see man ssh_config) [08:38] My Superdrive has finally turned up, 10.10 is going into my Macbook Air! [08:38] MartijnVdS: depends where the connection failure is.. [08:38] Compacthack: which MBA have you got? [08:39] screen-x: sure, if it's the connection to the IRC server that's flaking out, you'll need to teach irssi some tricks :) [08:39] screen-x: but it's possible to get a blinking red "CONNECTION LOST" in each window with minimal scripting [08:40] I get a message saying I'm no longer connected, but its usually just before the connection is re-established, so its pretty useless. [08:42] screen-x: 11" with 128GB SSD, 1.6GHz CPU and 4GB RAM [08:42] screen-x: I get it in window 1, where I tend to not look [08:42] screen-x: (because of Freenode spam) [08:43] "Boohoo we're the admins and some server is going down" SO WHAT, I'LL RECONNECT... *ahem* [08:43] * MartijnVdS wanders off to get some calming tea [08:43] MartijnVdS: heh, I never really read the console. [08:44] Compacthack: :) Let us know how 10.10 runs on there.. [08:49] MartijnVdS: I keep meaning to fiddle with that config :) [08:50] BigRedS: I think this needs to be a script, because it has to write something to all relevant windows at once [08:56] screen-x: Will do, been difficult to install, ended up taking the easy option and brought a Superdrive (USB DVD/CDROM) [08:56] Compacthack: it wont install from usb? [08:57] Nope, a Apple thing with the MBA I think [08:58] People have done it by coping usb install to a partition then booting into that, but bug with the installer, tries to unmount the install partition when setting up the other partitions [09:00] ahh :( [09:05] MartijnVdS: Ah, I include scripting in config. But It's thankfully quite rare that I find myself on such a flaky connection [09:11] morning kazade [09:11] morning MooDoo [09:12] MooDoo, #ubuntu-uk-minecraft ;) [09:17] kazade: [09:19] 23 [09:20] 153 ;) [09:24] time to pack! [09:27] Morning [09:27] \o daubers [09:27] where are you off to directhex? [09:28] brussels! [09:32] directhex: as an official delegation? [09:34] screen-x, i'm giving a talk, if that counts [09:34] cool, what on? [09:34] FOSDEM [09:37] directhex: found you :) http://fosdem.org/2011/schedule/event/mono_debian [09:41] ooh I'd like to listen to Lennart Poettering on systemd, hope that gets recorded [09:43] hm. i can't find my passport [09:44] this is now a priority [09:44] directhex: best get off here and find it then :) [09:45] Good morning, Angels! Happy Friday! [09:45] JamesTait: you win the award for most inventive good morning line :) [09:46] Why, thank you. :) [09:54] hey people...... just had a friday cob ... and feel great... hows people ... [09:55] hmmmm friday cob :) [09:55] its a reward to my self for getting through another crap week ... he he [09:55] lol [09:56] lucky bugger, although i've got a starbucks coffee :) [09:56] !!! [09:56] directhex: found it? [09:56] umm coffee [09:57] no :x [09:57] gonna have a shower, clear my mind [09:57] directhex: wont be in there [10:01] Good FRIDAY! morning peeps :) [10:09] Hello everyone :] [10:11] Morning sven__ [10:12] DJones, can i ask you something :) [10:12] mey* [10:12] Sure, give it a go [10:14] anyone in here from BT ? [10:16] Who would admit to that? [10:17] aloha [10:17] morning czajkowski how was canonical? [10:17] grand [10:17] you missed the hug [10:17] hus [10:17] czajkowski: nice picture ;) [10:17] hugs [10:17] czajkowski: i'll get one when i see you in london for the rugby ;) [10:18] morning czajkowski.. I was looking for directhex on fosdem.org, and spotted that you are also speaking :) [10:18] AHA! Realised why there is money in the joint account. No council tax this month [10:18] screen-x: aye [10:19] popey: sladen got hugged [10:19] bigcalm: are you "visiting" ;-) [10:19] czajkowski, were you doing anything fun in millbank? [10:20] screen-x: I think that you pay 10 months out of 12. Rather like the tv licence. I have no idea why though [10:20] bigcalm: oddness, shows how closely I monitor my accounts (!) [10:21] sometimes evolution says that i have x unread messages when i clearly have none, annoying [10:21] screen-x: Where I used to live on my own and got the 25% off was nearly as much as normal council tax here [10:21] Where I used to live was lovely, but darn expensive [10:22] wow loads of speakers at fosdem [10:22] gord: poking people :) [10:22] czajkowski, a hard job, but someone has to do it [10:23] gord: didn't you see the pic of czajkowski on facebook? smiling while she was doing it ;) [10:23] * popey pokes bigcalm with #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :) [10:23] i don't really use facebook, i have facebook chat hooked up to my IM's but thats about it, too lazy to go to a website [10:23] gord: don't blame you to be honest lol [10:25] Hello. [10:25] s-fox: good morning [10:25] \o/ no facebook account [10:26] Hello MooDoo . How are you? [10:26] s-fox: i'm very well thanks, going to see peter kay in notts tonight :D [10:28] :'( [10:30] That sounds fun MooDoo [10:32] * czajkowski pokes AlanBell and TheOpenSourcerer [10:32] bah [10:32] boarding [10:32] toodles [10:32] * TheOpenSourcerer waves at czajkowski [10:32] * AlanBell hugs czajkowski [10:32] s-fox: yes i'm looking forward to it [10:32] have a nice flight [10:32] hello ye two messers [10:32] enjoy the train. [10:32] AlanBell: TRAIN... do you remember last nights chats my dear [10:32] It's fun. [10:32] oh yeah [10:32] TheOpenSourcerer: even you remembered [10:33] I'm like an elephant me ;-) [10:33] AlanBell: yer getting old :p [10:33] czajkowski: never listen to a thing you say, should know that by now [10:33] clearly [10:33] bye [10:33] czajkowski: bye x [10:33] choo choo o/ [10:34] Bye czajkowski :) [10:36] hmmm tapas or wagammamas tonight? [10:36] * screen-x votes wagammamas [10:37] tapas [10:37] wagamammas [10:37] there's a tapas restaurant called iberico near the galleries of justice that is really good [10:37] i recommend that [10:38] * popey votes tapas [10:38] thanks Laney :) [10:38] * bigcalm isn't that excited by tapas [10:38] MooDoo: What's your location? === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller [10:38] bigcalm: i'm in nottingham [10:39] May I recomend sushi? :) [10:39] bigcalm: don't eat fish, cooked or raw [10:39] :D [10:39] actually i take that statement back [10:39] That does limit the choices then :) [10:39] Sushi++ [10:39] as sushi isn't necassarilyfish if i'm not mistaken :) [10:40] Canas y Tapas is not so far from here and is really good for tapas [10:40] MooDoo: you could try f&c ;) [10:40] s-fox: anything near the concert hall to be honest :D [10:41] MooDoo: why don't you eat fish? [10:41] daubers doesnt either iirc [10:41] popey: had a bad reaction when i was younger and never tried it since. [10:42] i don't particularly like fish, if that counts [10:42] I don't eat fish either. [10:42] ^5 dutchie [10:42] i don't mind sea food but not fish, although my wife says i should try monk fish as it's meatier [10:43] * MooDoo must remember to time how fast my ubuntu works now i'm running ssd [10:43] s/works/boots [10:44] where haven't i looked? [10:44] popey: I've been converted recently [10:44] Though still won't go near sushi [10:44] * jpds thinks food is a weapon, and eats everything. [10:44] I found the trick was to learn to cook it properly..... [10:45] directhex: bedroom draws, on your bookshelf with all your post, in your sock draw, in a secret place only you know about and have forgotten :) [10:45] directhex: filing cabinet?, shelves.. bags, coat pockets [10:45] directhex: In your car? [10:45] MooDoo: did you time it with disk, then copy your install to SSD? would be interesting to see the difference SSD makes, when its the only variable thats changed. [10:46] screen-x: no i didn't but it's no hardship to put the normal disk back in for testing [10:46] although it is quite good :D [10:46] daubers: where other halves passport is located [10:47] er directhex [10:47] MooDoo: noticeably snappier in normal usage with sshd? [10:47] screen-x: yup :) [10:47] popey, yes [10:47] popey, nope [10:48] popey, got hers, no trouble [10:48] woohoo, lectures [10:48] MooDoo: do you have plenty of RAM? [10:48] screen-x 4gb [10:49] popey, MooDoo: http://j.mp/i0JlVL [10:49] lol [10:49] haha [10:50] memegenerator++ :) [10:50] MartijnVdS: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/239/461325122_6dbcf37c81.jpg [10:50] heh [10:50] Bah, why isn't there a library to deal with magnetic tapes in python [10:51] daubers: because magnetic tapes are just special device files, and there are plenty of libraries that deal with those :P [10:51] mt! [10:51] tar! [10:51] (guess what the "t" stands for..) [10:52] Yes yes yes, I can just call mt, but it would be nice to do it without resorting to calling a CLI program [10:52] MartijnVdS: python-tar doesn't rewind the tape and whatnot [10:52] daubers: ah, you want to do ioctls then :) [10:54] MartijnVdS: Got a convenient link for that? [10:55] Oooh... man st might be useful [10:58] \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ [10:58] directhex: w00t :) [10:59] phone wife, find within 60 seconds [10:59] wife++ [10:59] directhex: lol where was it :) [10:59] MooDoo, inside pocket of my suit jacket [11:00] * screen-x was pretty close at 10:45 then :) [11:00] directhex: typical :D [11:02] we need more schengen [11:03] Laney: more what? [11:03] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Schengen_Agreement [11:03] directhex: My girlfriend always complains that im unobservant and never notice anything [11:03] Laney: No. [11:04] seeker: i can look for something for ages and it's always right in front of my face as my wife points out [11:04] right... packing... don't have a suitable bag \o/ [11:04] Meh, my missus complains that I occasionally refer to her as my calender [11:04] So when i lose stuff she finds it quickly [11:04] However, when it comes to the Internet, the situation is reversed [11:05] daubers: heh, I've pursuaded mrs screen-x to use google calendar :) [11:05] directhex: phone the wife, she'll have one :p [11:05] She spent 45 mins last night looking for stuff [11:05] I found it in about 45 seconds [11:05] screen-x: I tried that, but I always forget to put stuff on it. Easier to mention it to the missus and she'll remind me [11:06] <- not *totally* useless [11:06] daubers: yeah, only works if you both have phones that sync well. [11:06] i'll steal her bag. remove stockings first though... roommate will look at me funny if i pull those out [11:07] directhex: funny or with a slight wink ;) [11:07] morning all [11:07] MooDoo: [11:07] davmor2: morning sir [11:08] Latest version of iTunes has removed the GET button from the Podcasts view. This is odd [11:09] bigcalm: that's cause apple hates you :D [11:09] davmor2: the feeling is mutual :) [11:09] iTunes is the only thing of theirs that I use out of choice [11:09] And that's just for the podcasts [11:09] davmor2: good day yesterday? [11:10] bigcalm: iTunes is one of the only things of theirs that I hate with a passion. (the other is timecapsule) [11:10] MooDoo: busy, nearly missed czajkowski all together :) [11:10] :) === redd is now known as Guest40634 [11:16] When are the people at ubuntu gonna fix the PPTP VPN problems... argh!!! its very anoyning .... [11:17] Neoti|work: Have you filed a bug report about it? [11:18] Neoti|work: which specific issue? VPNs raise a number of issues [11:20] ok ignore that ... it just started working .... its not been working for past week on my computer and now it is ... maybe that update i just did fixed it ... either way ... yey === Webicus is now known as N1ckR [11:20] every time i tried to connect with the correct user ane password it just failed... yet the same vpn on widnows always worked.... strange. [11:21] * directhex realises saying "X is for girls, manly men use Y" isn't funny, it's just sexist [11:22] directhex: found it yet? [11:22] directhex: X-chromosomes are for girls, manly men have Y-chromosomes. [11:22] [10:58] \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ [11:22] heh [11:22] MartijnVdS, the manliest men have 2! [11:22] directhex: exactly! [11:23] I'm lost [11:23] directhex: wifey accuses me of "man looking" [11:23] when I can't find stuff [11:23] "Oh, you've been man looking again?" [11:23] popey: I get that too! [11:23] bigcalm: you're in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. [11:23] It's almost always because she's been "woman tidying" stuff away [11:23] NW [11:23] bigcalm: You have been eaten by a grue. [11:23] popey: why do I read that with a "deep south" American accent? [11:23] Restart (Y/N) [11:24] N [11:24] C:\> [11:24] format c: /Y [11:24] rm -rf * / [11:24] Did that once by mistake on my dad's machine === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [11:24] Sorry, my dad's work machine [11:25] Cannot load COMMAND, system halted [11:25] :(){:|..... [11:25] Good, time for a cuppa tea then :) [11:25] bigcalm: when i was younger and on YTS i was told to go run that command on a machine, they mistakenly thought i knew what it meant ;) [11:25] bigcalm: I accidentally threw a 20MB hard disk off a desk once [11:25] bigcalm: (PC was disassembled for upgrades) [11:26] MartijnVdS: 5" drive? [11:27] screen-x: ST-225 [11:27] ok im guessing the vpn problems have been fixed in this update i just did ... YEY !!!!! \0/ [11:28] Neoti|work: yay o/ [11:28] screen-x: http://www.redhill.net.au/d/d-a.html [11:29] MooDoo : indeed! 0/ [11:29] okay. i will play some minecraft now [11:29] :) [11:29] * popey invites directhex to #ubuntu-uk-minecraft [11:31] MartijnVdS: I keep meaning to disassemble a big old disk, the large platters should make good coasters.. [11:31] aka popey-world :) [11:31] screen-x: my dad has a full-height 5.25" hard disk bookend :) [11:32] I've got one of those from an old sun scsi housing :) [11:49] morning everyone. [11:49] \o brobostigon [11:49] brobostigon: morning [11:49] morning MartijnVdS :) [11:49] morning MooDoo :) [11:50] * screen-x is having ADSL issues. [11:50] brobostigon: how are you this fine day? [11:50] MooDoo: not bad, my hip hurts, but more optimistic certainly. and how about you? [11:51] brobostigon: i'm not bad, going to see peter kay tonight so that's good. [11:51] MooDoo: cool, have loads of fun, :) [11:52] brobostigon: i will :) and then i;ll be doing some boot speed tests tomorrow with ubuntu and my ssd [11:53] MartijnVdS: i just found out,bytemark give native ipv6 for their vps's, :) [11:53] MooDoo: :) , ah, interesting. [11:54] Ooo, I didn't realise that I had an ipv6 address with my bytemark host [11:54] Any way of testing it? [11:54] virgin not doing them yet as far as i can tell [11:54] bigcalm: mtr -6 gb.archive.ubuntu.com [11:55] Haha [11:55] It wants to install 37 packages before mtr will get installed [11:55] bigcalm: traceroute6 -n gb.archive.ubuntu.com [11:57] Network in unreachable [11:57] Grumble [11:58] bigcalm: http://www.bytemark.co.uk/support/technical_documents/ipv6 [11:59] brobostigon: ta [11:59] bigcalm: you're welcome, [12:00] * bigcalm hunts down the welcome emails [12:05] How odd [12:06] ipv6 address stated in ifconfig is completely different from the welcome email [12:09] * bigcalm gets ready to break his vm [12:10] Broke it :D [12:10] Well done, good sir. [12:10] bigcalm: well done :D [12:15] # ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 [12:15] FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.32.23-kvm-i386-20100923/modules.dep: No such file or directory [12:15] * bigcalm shakes his fist at Bytemark [12:16] bigcalm: impressive that you had enough connectivity to receive that error.. [12:16] screen-x: I'm logged into the admin console [12:16] ahh, makes sesnse [12:22] Maybe I'll leave this to out of office hours [12:25] howdy guys [12:26] afternoonings andylockran [12:28] Good evening === denny- is now known as denny [12:39] Lots of brown outs! [12:39] So glad I have UPSs [12:41] hi all [13:08] raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa power cuts [13:09] * MooDoo has made a schoolboy error [13:09] stupid computers [13:09] :( [13:09] MooDoo: getting a lot of brown outs here [13:10] bigcalm: yeah where i am too.....but my server rebooted fine, however as it's a vmware server i forgot to make the vm's restart too :S doh!!!! [13:10] Doh [13:10] You need a UPS :) [13:10] tell me about it.... [13:11] bigcalm: yes i know [13:11] :P [13:11] darn vps's lol [13:29] whenever I hear "brown outs" I think of playing Civilisation [13:30] popey: Not 5 minute chocolate cup-cakes? [13:31] \o/ mug cakes [13:34] My kids think popey is some kind of deity after we made those cakes. [13:34] hi all [13:36] MooDoo: Spot on about Virgin not doing IPv6. They have "plenty of free IPv4 addresses" apparently. [13:37] JamesTait: yeah that's what i read in forums last night :) [13:38] * JamesTait hands Virgin Media a pair of glasses. Talk about myopic. [13:39] In the meantime, I got set up with a tunnel from SixXS. [13:39] I guess I should setup a tunnel, not that I really know what I'd do with it, i.e. when I'd need it. [13:40] dwatkins: freenode over ipv6, ipv6.chat.freenode.net :), ipv6.google.com www.v6.facebook.com [13:40] haha JamesTait [13:40] popey: Of course, we've all known that for years.... ;) [13:40] Not that ipv6.chat.freenode.net is necessary if one's client prefers v6. [13:41] Darael: good point, easy to set in irssi. [13:41] * JamesTait wonders if his does. [13:41] And ditto Google if using Hurricane Electric DNS. [13:41] brobostigon: Precisely. [13:41] Or any other DNS that Google provide quad-A records to, actually. [13:42] * popey cuddles JamesTait [13:42] * JamesTait purrs. [13:43] sorry about that [13:43] v6 \o/ [13:43] :) [13:43] * MartijnVdS isn't a pro irssi wranger, apparently [13:43] Judging by my netstat output, me too. :) [13:44] the real reason for not setting reverse ipv6 dns: because there is no point having ipv6 unless people on irc can see it [13:44] 14:43 [FreeNode] -!- Irssi: Connecting to ipv6.chat.freenode.net [2001:19f0:feee::dead:beef:cafe] port 6667 [13:44] i should probably consider ipv6 on my bitfolk vps at some point [13:44] "dead beef cafe", rly? [13:44] Thankfully most of the Ubuntu mirrors have had v6 for a while. [13:44] jpds: yes, :) [13:44] jpds: Facebook has a v6 page, Google is available over v6 [13:45] Oh that's what that address is! I was seeing it in my UFW logs and wondering! [13:45] When reddit and imgur add v6 support, I can disable v4 ;) [13:45] haha [13:45] dutchie: google includes youtube.. :) [13:46] giwdt akk [13:47] andylockran: Welsh? [13:47] or a hangover [13:47]