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nhainesrww: Not just for that, but for historical reasons as well.  A lot of programs have C: hardcoded.00:10
nhainesI'm running SuSE 9.3 on my secondary system here, temporarily.00:24
nhainesNatty alpha 2 didn't work out so hot so it was a good opportunity.  But man, so many duplicate programs over 5 CDs.  :)00:25
DarkwingDucknhaines: still an issue with a black screen on install?01:30
nhainesDarkwingDuck: issue with gnome-panel doesn't run in Classic Mode.01:57
MarkDudeYay for wifi on public transportation02:41
MarkDudeHWY17 bus ftw02:41
akkNice!02:46
MarkDudeNot super fast - it works tho :)02:49
akkAny access is way better than no access.02:49
akkUnless you're trying to follow the route on google earth or something. :)02:49
MarkDudelol02:50
MarkDudeIf you take cal train also- you could have it all the way02:50
akkThey have wifi now?02:50
akk(and they're whining about how they have to raise fares AGAIN?)02:51
MarkDudeI guess not02:51
* MarkDude googled it :)02:51
MarkDudeStill feels like I am from the future02:55
MarkDudequite a few people are using the net now, and it is better than most conferences I have been to02:56
nhaineslfitz: Good evening.  :)04:03
nhainesBreaking news, Jane Silber is scheduled to give Sunday's keynote at SCaLE, 27 February 2011.05:21
pleia2yeah, we've got Leigh and Jane - Ubuntu Members rule SCaLE! ;)05:24
jonohey all18:48
jonoany coders here want to help with some dev testing next week?18:48
jamiedmattinglyhi jono18:49
jonohey jamiedmattingly18:49
jonothis testing will be in the bay area18:49
jamiedmattinglytesting sounds like fun where at?18:49
jonojamiedmattingly, where are you based?18:49
jonoI want to do it in the SF area18:49
jamiedmattinglylive in vallejo work in sonoma18:50
jonojamiedmattingly, having you got development experience?18:50
jamiedmattinglystill new to it. but learning python now. prolly not enough for what you need huh?18:51
jonojamiedmattingly, you are perfect!18:51
jonothis is aimed at new devs using Python!18:51
jonolet me check out schedule to see which slot is open18:52
jonojamiedmattingly, would you be free on Tues at 2pm?18:52
jamiedmattinglyaqctually i work mon to fri 7-4 unless it is something i can do online from here18:53
jonoahhh, np18:53
jonono this is in person18:53
jonowould anyone else be interested in helping on Tues at 2pm?18:53
jamiedmattinglyif in person and through week has to be after 4 if that is ok if not sorry jono18:53
jonojamiedmattingly, no worries!18:54
nUboon2Agejono: i just got on, what is the event again?18:54
jononUboon2Age, a dev testing session face to face18:54
jonoI am looking for a volunteer in the bay area18:54
nUboon2Agewhat is the location jono?18:55
jononUboon2Age, San Francisco area18:55
nUboon2Ageso no specific location jono?18:56
nUboon2Agei'm in the SF Bay area jono18:56
nUboon2Agei'd probably be interested jono18:56
jamiedmattinglypleia2,  did you get to play with your new toy yet?18:57
pleia2jamiedmattingly: yes :) and blogged about it18:58
pleia2planet.ubuntu-california.org18:58
jamiedmattinglyyou saved me from typing my next question :)18:58
jamiedmattinglydid you really get a hamster in a wheel with it pleia2?18:59
pleia2I wish!18:59
pleia2although, it doesn't get very hot, maybe it IS powered by a very thin hamster18:59
jamiedmattinglylol19:00
akkooh, pleia2, nice toy!19:04
jamiedmattinglyimpressive blog pleia2 you can really write19:07
nUboon2AgeUbuntu Hour @ Palo Alto TONIGHT!  7pm Tandoori Oven (2 doors down from Antonio's Nut House).  Details and RSVP:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/650/detail/  pleia2, aaditya, akk, crashsystems, crashsystems1, jledbetter, jamiedmattingly, jamiedmattingly, jono, pleia2, kdub, jtatum,19:07
jononUboon2Age, are you a coder?19:07
jamiedmattinglypalo is alittle out of my range plus i have to watch kids tonight nUboon2Age but thanks19:08
pleia2jamiedmattingly: thanks :)19:08
jedahanpleia2, could you recommend a coworking space ?19:08
nUboon2Agejono: yes, what language are you wanting amigo?19:08
jamiedmattinglyi did find a pretty good sized starbucks here in vallejo for an ubuntu hour just not sure what to do if i schedule one19:09
akknUboon2Age: I'm still getting over that cold ... might not last that long today, will see.19:09
pleia2jedahan: I went to an event at Nextspace a while back, they do day passes (I think you get one free, and you can buy them) so you can check it out: http://nextspace.us/19:09
pleia2http://nextspace.us/19:09
nUboon2Ageakk: any time at all would be great!19:09
jononUboon2Age, preferably Python, what do you code in19:10
jono?19:10
* pleia2 liberal with paste button19:11
DarkwingDuckhey jono19:12
jonohey DarkwingDuck19:12
jonohows things, pal?19:12
DarkwingDuckjono: still can't find a job but, things are going really well. :)19:13
DarkwingDuckjono: been working on python :)19:13
jonoDarkwingDuck, cool!19:13
jonoDarkwingDuck, are you in the bay area?19:13
DarkwingDuckjono: I'm in San Diego but, if the job is right I'll move :)19:13
jonoahhh19:14
jonothis isnt a job19:14
jonoit is developer testing :-)19:14
DarkwingDuckahhh that. I wish I could when I heard about it.19:14
DarkwingDuckjono: you going to be at scale?19:14
nUboon2Agei'm a beginner in python jono,  Java used to be my primary, i'm a JCP and used to work for Sun in TCK stuff but i took a loooooong break and am rusty right now.  Also a LOT of C coding back when, Perl, Turbo Pascal w/ Objects, C++, Basic, DOS batch scripting, assembly, etc., etc., etc.,19:14
jonoDarkwingDuck, not sure yet, I might be in the studio19:15
nUboon2AgeSoftware Enginneer who took a looooooong break. :-)19:15
DarkwingDuckjono: awesome! I've started playing bass again19:15
DarkwingDuckjono: have you played with SL4A yet?19:15
jonoDarkwingDuck, nice!19:15
jonoDarkwingDuck, SL4A?19:16
nUboon2Ageoh, and i play guitar, bass, keyboard, sing and a bit of drums jono. :-)19:16
akkscripting languages for Android19:16
DarkwingDuckScripting Language for Android19:16
jononUboon2Age, and would you be free on Tues at 2pm?19:16
jedahanpleia2, ahh nextspace is right near me cool19:16
nUboon2Ageyes jono19:16
akkDarkwingDuck: Have you? I keep wanting to but haven't had time yet.19:16
pleia2jedahan: huh, which one? the SF one is about 2 blocks from me19:16
jononUboon2Age, do you think you could get into San Francisco for that time?19:16
nUboon2Ageyes jono19:17
jononUboon2Age, woo!19:17
jonoawesome19:17
DarkwingDuckakk: I was poking at it yesterday. There is a big writeup in Linux Journal about it.19:17
jedahanpleia2, I am staying at a hostel in the TenderLoin. Well closet to tenderknob but yeah, thats in the financial district right?19:17
jononUboon2Age, I am just going to confirm a location and I will get back to you :-)19:17
jedahanits like a 5 minute bike ride19:17
nUboon2Agety jedahan19:17
nUboon2Agety jono19:17
pleia2jedahan: yep, nextspace is in the financial district :)19:17
jamiedmattinglyanyone else here in or near north bay that wouldnt mind coordinating for an ubuntu hour here?19:17
akkDarkwingDuck: Yeah, saw that, need to work through it! Though I gather people can't run your scripts unless they also have SL4A and python?19:17
nUboon2Agehopefully Caltrain accessible jono19:17
nUboon2Ageor not too far from.19:17
jononUboon2Age, no worries19:18
DarkwingDuckakk: but, if you build those dependancies into the apk it *should* work.19:18
nUboon2Agei broke my arm recently so i have to get everywhere by mass transit and walking19:18
nUboon2Agei can't ride my bike even. :-/19:18
akkDarkwingDuck: Oh, cool -- that definitely makes it more attractive.19:18
DarkwingDuckakk: Although, it would bloat the size of the APK19:19
akkDarkwingDuck: I wonder how much the apk would compare to a java one, though? Any idea?19:19
DarkwingDuckI don't know...19:20
DarkwingDuckakk: I think what I'll do is take a RSS reader and port it to python and compare the two19:20
akkI'm also surprised you (apparently) can't make a web app into an apk ... apps made of html and javascript.19:20
jamiedmattinglyam i seriously the only one here from northbay19:20
jamiedmattingly??19:20
pleia2jamiedmattingly: might also want to try the mailing list, there are 200+ folks on that :)19:21
akkDarkwingDuck: Oh, good idea, I should try porting my feedreader to python (except I'm not sure they have enough APIs in AL4A python).19:21
akkDarkwingDuck: I'd love to hear what you think after you try it.19:21
DarkwingDuckakk: I'm going to play with it this month pretty deeply19:22
DarkwingDuckakk: we can compare notes at Scale :)19:22
jdeslipakk: You can basically make an web-app into an apk - just use one webview19:22
akkDarkwingDuck: Great! Looking forward to it.19:22
jamiedmattinglyhow do i do mailing list/19:22
jamiedmattingly?19:23
akkjdeslip: I know how to make a java app with a webview plus pages, but that requires java and eclipse.19:23
akk(well, not eclipse, but some compilation environment, anyway)19:23
jdeslipakk: Well ... not much java ;) If you do all the heaving lifting in javascript.  Just need java to create the webview.19:24
akkSure, I know, just would be nice to avoid all that extra mechanism when a web viewer is already built in to android.19:24
akkIt means anyone else who works on the project also has to have java and the SDKs set up on their machines.19:25
akkjamiedmattingly: There are a couple of concord/antioch people on http://shallowsky.com/maps/geeknic/ (when you said north bay earlier I thought you meant Marin).19:28
jamiedmattinglythanks akk. northbay is anything past vallejo like fairfield vacaville and such concord and antioch are east bay which is still easier than palo for me19:30
akkjamiedmattingly: I was just thinking they looked close enough that they might come to a vallejo meeting.19:32
jamiedmattinglyi agree19:32
jamiedmattinglyi sent an email to mailing list so hopefully if i did it right we will read about it tommorow19:33
pleia2jamiedmattingly: you did it right :)19:34
akkYou did it right -- I got it already.19:34
jamiedmattinglywow i did something right lol first time for everything :)19:35
nUboon2AgeUbuntu Hour @ Palo Alto TONIGHT!  7pm Tandoori Oven (2 doors down from Antonio's Nut House).  Details and RSVP:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/650/detail/  pleia2, aaditya, akk, crashsystems, crashsystems1, jledbetter, jamiedmattingly, jamiedmattingly, jono, pleia2, kdub, jtatum,19:35
pleia2can't make it, have company flying in this evening so I'll be doing lots of last minute tidying around the condo19:36
jamiedmattinglyi didnt get an email is it because i sent it?19:36
pleia2jamiedmattingly: yes, gmail eats them19:36
iheartubuntuhow is your cr48 liz? are you using it now?19:36
pleia2(very annoying)19:36
pleia2iheartubuntu: it's fun :) not using it now because I'm (supposed to be) working and it's not flexible enough for that19:37
iheartubuntuso how would you do irc on it?19:37
pleia2iheartubuntu: if you switch it into dev mode you can get to a terminal, which you can ssh from19:38
iheartubuntui mean how would a common user do irc :)19:38
iheartubuntugo to a website?19:38
pleia2probably would have to use webchat19:38
pleia2yeah19:38
nUboon2Ageokay pleia2, we'll miss you. :-(  we love you. :-)19:39
pleia2nUboon2Age: oh! updating identica/twitter now19:39
nUboon2Ageubuntu love.  group hug pleia219:39
iheartubuntuupdated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x19:39
* iheartubuntu hugs pleia219:40
* pleia2 hugs all around19:40
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited19:48
jedahanjust so happens nextspace is free today. and has a 4pm happy hour21:34
jedahanthanks pleia221:34
pleia2sweet21:34
pleia2you're welcome :)21:34
jedahansoooo easy living in SF with no plans21:34
jedahanand keeping busy21:34
jamiedmattinglyjust out of curiosity what is next space for?21:40
pleia2it's an "office" that work from home types, entrepreneurs, etc can use so they don't get lonely had sort of have "co-workers"21:41
pleia2s/had/and21:41
pleia2they also have conference rooms you can rent (nice for virtual companies who need to have real life meetings)21:42
DarkwingDuckOkay... Gingerbread on my Droid is smooth22:05
jamiedmattinglywhich droid do you have DarkwingDuck?22:06
DarkwingDuckDroid 122:07
DarkwingDuckI had a droid 2 but, I ended up giving to a buddy of mine who needed a phone.22:07
jamiedmattinglyi have droid incredible how did you get gingerbread on your droid?22:08
DarkwingDuckIt's rooted. I know most of the underground dev/hackers that do the custom ROMs.22:08
DarkwingDuckThere are two good Gingerbread ROMs out there for the D122:09
DarkwingDuckLiquidGingerbread and CyanogenMod 722:09
DarkwingDuckActually, I just realized that the Droid 1 has the same OMAP board as the n900 so, I should be able to get Kubuntu-Mobile installed on teh Droid 122:10
jamiedmattinglyhow can you update your android phone fromm 2.2 to 2.3? do you know DarkwingDuck?22:12
DarkwingDuckjamiedmattingly: Is it rooted?22:13
jamiedmattinglyi dont think so22:13
DarkwingDuckThat would be the first step. I'm not sure if there is a DInc ROM for 2.3 yet.22:13
DarkwingDuckjamiedmattingly: http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/21/droid-incredible-owners-receive-one-of-the-first-really-polished-gingerbread-roms/22:15
DarkwingDuckYou can get it on your DInc but, GPS and Video recording have issues still22:16
kdub_DarkwingDuck: you put kubuntu mobile on the n900?22:21
DarkwingDuckkdub_: One of the Devs for Kubuntu-Mobile did22:22
DarkwingDuckI'm going to work on getting it on the Droid 1... It shouldn't have any hardware issues except maybe CDMA22:22
DarkwingDuckBecause Verizon uses CDMA and the rest of the world uses GMS22:22
DarkwingDuck*GSM22:22
DarkwingDuckSo, I'll have to see22:23
* kdub_ has an n900, that would be cool22:23
kdub_but maemo is already a debian system, i might just leave it at "eh, close enough" ;-)22:24
iheartubuntuso you wouldnt be able to make calls?22:30
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DarkwingDuckkdub_: gemme a sec22:33
DarkwingDuckkdub_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ARM/n900/22:34
kdub_DarkwingDuck: dang, pretty cool22:55
DarkwingDuckkdub_: oh yeah.22:58
* kdub_ has always been one to take linux on his phone over a phone that can actually call people :)22:59
DarkwingDuckhehehe23:00
* akk has a phone that can call people, and a separate device running linux23:02
akkthough I admit it would be neat to have both in the same box23:02
kdub_the n900 does, right out of the box23:08
kdub_i hope meego turns out more or less the same way23:08
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