[00:10] rww: Not just for that, but for historical reasons as well. A lot of programs have C: hardcoded. [00:24] I'm running SuSE 9.3 on my secondary system here, temporarily. [00:25] Natty alpha 2 didn't work out so hot so it was a good opportunity. But man, so many duplicate programs over 5 CDs. :) [01:30] nhaines: still an issue with a black screen on install? [01:57] DarkwingDuck: issue with gnome-panel doesn't run in Classic Mode. [02:41] Yay for wifi on public transportation [02:41] HWY17 bus ftw [02:46] Nice! [02:49] Not super fast - it works tho :) [02:49] Any access is way better than no access. [02:49] Unless you're trying to follow the route on google earth or something. :) [02:50] lol [02:50] If you take cal train also- you could have it all the way [02:50] They have wifi now? [02:51] (and they're whining about how they have to raise fares AGAIN?) [02:51] I guess not [02:51] * MarkDude googled it :) [02:55] Still feels like I am from the future [02:56] quite a few people are using the net now, and it is better than most conferences I have been to [04:03] lfitz: Good evening. :) [05:21] Breaking news, Jane Silber is scheduled to give Sunday's keynote at SCaLE, 27 February 2011. [05:24] yeah, we've got Leigh and Jane - Ubuntu Members rule SCaLE! ;) [18:48] hey all [18:48] any coders here want to help with some dev testing next week? [18:49] hi jono [18:49] hey jamiedmattingly [18:49] this testing will be in the bay area [18:49] testing sounds like fun where at? [18:49] jamiedmattingly, where are you based? [18:49] I want to do it in the SF area [18:50] live in vallejo work in sonoma [18:50] jamiedmattingly, having you got development experience? [18:51] still new to it. but learning python now. prolly not enough for what you need huh? [18:51] jamiedmattingly, you are perfect! [18:51] this is aimed at new devs using Python! [18:52] let me check out schedule to see which slot is open [18:52] jamiedmattingly, would you be free on Tues at 2pm? [18:53] aqctually i work mon to fri 7-4 unless it is something i can do online from here [18:53] ahhh, np [18:53] no this is in person [18:53] would anyone else be interested in helping on Tues at 2pm? [18:53] if in person and through week has to be after 4 if that is ok if not sorry jono [18:54] jamiedmattingly, no worries! [18:54] jono: i just got on, what is the event again? [18:54] nUboon2Age, a dev testing session face to face [18:54] I am looking for a volunteer in the bay area [18:55] what is the location jono? [18:55] nUboon2Age, San Francisco area [18:56] so no specific location jono? [18:56] i'm in the SF Bay area jono [18:56] i'd probably be interested jono [18:57] pleia2, did you get to play with your new toy yet? [18:58] jamiedmattingly: yes :) and blogged about it [18:58] planet.ubuntu-california.org [18:58] you saved me from typing my next question :) [18:59] did you really get a hamster in a wheel with it pleia2? [18:59] I wish! [18:59] although, it doesn't get very hot, maybe it IS powered by a very thin hamster [19:00] lol [19:04] ooh, pleia2, nice toy! [19:07] impressive blog pleia2 you can really write [19:07] Ubuntu Hour @ Palo Alto TONIGHT! 7pm Tandoori Oven (2 doors down from Antonio's Nut House). Details and RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/650/detail/ pleia2, aaditya, akk, crashsystems, crashsystems1, jledbetter, jamiedmattingly, jamiedmattingly, jono, pleia2, kdub, jtatum, [19:07] nUboon2Age, are you a coder? [19:08] palo is alittle out of my range plus i have to watch kids tonight nUboon2Age but thanks [19:08] jamiedmattingly: thanks :) [19:08] pleia2, could you recommend a coworking space ? [19:08] jono: yes, what language are you wanting amigo? [19:09] i did find a pretty good sized starbucks here in vallejo for an ubuntu hour just not sure what to do if i schedule one [19:09] nUboon2Age: I'm still getting over that cold ... might not last that long today, will see. [19:09] jedahan: I went to an event at Nextspace a while back, they do day passes (I think you get one free, and you can buy them) so you can check it out: http://nextspace.us/ [19:09] http://nextspace.us/ [19:09] akk: any time at all would be great! [19:10] nUboon2Age, preferably Python, what do you code in [19:10] ? [19:11] * pleia2 liberal with paste button [19:12] hey jono [19:12] hey DarkwingDuck [19:12] hows things, pal? [19:13] jono: still can't find a job but, things are going really well. :) [19:13] jono: been working on python :) [19:13] DarkwingDuck, cool! [19:13] DarkwingDuck, are you in the bay area? [19:13] jono: I'm in San Diego but, if the job is right I'll move :) [19:14] ahhh [19:14] this isnt a job [19:14] it is developer testing :-) [19:14] ahhh that. I wish I could when I heard about it. [19:14] jono: you going to be at scale? [19:14] i'm a beginner in python jono, Java used to be my primary, i'm a JCP and used to work for Sun in TCK stuff but i took a loooooong break and am rusty right now. Also a LOT of C coding back when, Perl, Turbo Pascal w/ Objects, C++, Basic, DOS batch scripting, assembly, etc., etc., etc., [19:15] DarkwingDuck, not sure yet, I might be in the studio [19:15] Software Enginneer who took a looooooong break. :-) [19:15] jono: awesome! I've started playing bass again [19:15] jono: have you played with SL4A yet? [19:15] DarkwingDuck, nice! [19:16] DarkwingDuck, SL4A? [19:16] oh, and i play guitar, bass, keyboard, sing and a bit of drums jono. :-) [19:16] scripting languages for Android [19:16] Scripting Language for Android [19:16] nUboon2Age, and would you be free on Tues at 2pm? [19:16] pleia2, ahh nextspace is right near me cool [19:16] yes jono [19:16] DarkwingDuck: Have you? I keep wanting to but haven't had time yet. [19:16] jedahan: huh, which one? the SF one is about 2 blocks from me [19:16] nUboon2Age, do you think you could get into San Francisco for that time? [19:17] yes jono [19:17] nUboon2Age, woo! [19:17] awesome [19:17] akk: I was poking at it yesterday. There is a big writeup in Linux Journal about it. [19:17] pleia2, I am staying at a hostel in the TenderLoin. Well closet to tenderknob but yeah, thats in the financial district right? [19:17] nUboon2Age, I am just going to confirm a location and I will get back to you :-) [19:17] its like a 5 minute bike ride [19:17] ty jedahan [19:17] ty jono [19:17] jedahan: yep, nextspace is in the financial district :) [19:17] anyone else here in or near north bay that wouldnt mind coordinating for an ubuntu hour here? [19:17] DarkwingDuck: Yeah, saw that, need to work through it! Though I gather people can't run your scripts unless they also have SL4A and python? [19:17] hopefully Caltrain accessible jono [19:17] or not too far from. [19:18] nUboon2Age, no worries [19:18] akk: but, if you build those dependancies into the apk it *should* work. [19:18] i broke my arm recently so i have to get everywhere by mass transit and walking [19:18] i can't ride my bike even. :-/ [19:18] DarkwingDuck: Oh, cool -- that definitely makes it more attractive. [19:19] akk: Although, it would bloat the size of the APK [19:19] DarkwingDuck: I wonder how much the apk would compare to a java one, though? Any idea? [19:20] I don't know... [19:20] akk: I think what I'll do is take a RSS reader and port it to python and compare the two [19:20] I'm also surprised you (apparently) can't make a web app into an apk ... apps made of html and javascript. [19:20] am i seriously the only one here from northbay [19:20] ?? [19:21] jamiedmattingly: might also want to try the mailing list, there are 200+ folks on that :) [19:21] DarkwingDuck: Oh, good idea, I should try porting my feedreader to python (except I'm not sure they have enough APIs in AL4A python). [19:21] DarkwingDuck: I'd love to hear what you think after you try it. [19:22] akk: I'm going to play with it this month pretty deeply [19:22] akk: we can compare notes at Scale :) [19:22] akk: You can basically make an web-app into an apk - just use one webview [19:22] DarkwingDuck: Great! Looking forward to it. [19:22] how do i do mailing list/ [19:23] ? [19:23] jdeslip: I know how to make a java app with a webview plus pages, but that requires java and eclipse. [19:23] (well, not eclipse, but some compilation environment, anyway) [19:24] akk: Well ... not much java ;) If you do all the heaving lifting in javascript. Just need java to create the webview. [19:24] Sure, I know, just would be nice to avoid all that extra mechanism when a web viewer is already built in to android. [19:25] It means anyone else who works on the project also has to have java and the SDKs set up on their machines. [19:28] jamiedmattingly: There are a couple of concord/antioch people on http://shallowsky.com/maps/geeknic/ (when you said north bay earlier I thought you meant Marin). [19:30] thanks akk. northbay is anything past vallejo like fairfield vacaville and such concord and antioch are east bay which is still easier than palo for me [19:32] jamiedmattingly: I was just thinking they looked close enough that they might come to a vallejo meeting. [19:32] i agree [19:33] i sent an email to mailing list so hopefully if i did it right we will read about it tommorow [19:34] jamiedmattingly: you did it right :) [19:34] You did it right -- I got it already. [19:35] wow i did something right lol first time for everything :) [19:35] Ubuntu Hour @ Palo Alto TONIGHT! 7pm Tandoori Oven (2 doors down from Antonio's Nut House). Details and RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/650/detail/ pleia2, aaditya, akk, crashsystems, crashsystems1, jledbetter, jamiedmattingly, jamiedmattingly, jono, pleia2, kdub, jtatum, [19:36] can't make it, have company flying in this evening so I'll be doing lots of last minute tidying around the condo [19:36] i didnt get an email is it because i sent it? [19:36] jamiedmattingly: yes, gmail eats them [19:36] how is your cr48 liz? are you using it now? [19:36] (very annoying) [19:37] iheartubuntu: it's fun :) not using it now because I'm (supposed to be) working and it's not flexible enough for that [19:37] so how would you do irc on it? [19:38] iheartubuntu: if you switch it into dev mode you can get to a terminal, which you can ssh from [19:38] i mean how would a common user do irc :) [19:38] go to a website? [19:38] probably would have to use webchat [19:38] yeah [19:39] okay pleia2, we'll miss you. :-( we love you. :-) [19:39] nUboon2Age: oh! updating identica/twitter now [19:39] ubuntu love. group hug pleia2 [19:39] updated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x [19:40] * iheartubuntu hugs pleia2 [19:40] * pleia2 hugs all around [19:48] wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited [21:34] just so happens nextspace is free today. and has a 4pm happy hour [21:34] thanks pleia2 [21:34] sweet [21:34] you're welcome :) [21:34] soooo easy living in SF with no plans [21:34] and keeping busy [21:40] just out of curiosity what is next space for? [21:41] it's an "office" that work from home types, entrepreneurs, etc can use so they don't get lonely had sort of have "co-workers" [21:41] s/had/and [21:42] they also have conference rooms you can rent (nice for virtual companies who need to have real life meetings) [22:05] Okay... Gingerbread on my Droid is smooth [22:06] which droid do you have DarkwingDuck? [22:07] Droid 1 [22:07] I had a droid 2 but, I ended up giving to a buddy of mine who needed a phone. [22:08] i have droid incredible how did you get gingerbread on your droid? [22:08] It's rooted. I know most of the underground dev/hackers that do the custom ROMs. [22:09] There are two good Gingerbread ROMs out there for the D1 [22:09] LiquidGingerbread and CyanogenMod 7 [22:10] Actually, I just realized that the Droid 1 has the same OMAP board as the n900 so, I should be able to get Kubuntu-Mobile installed on teh Droid 1 [22:12] how can you update your android phone fromm 2.2 to 2.3? do you know DarkwingDuck? [22:13] jamiedmattingly: Is it rooted? [22:13] i dont think so [22:13] That would be the first step. I'm not sure if there is a DInc ROM for 2.3 yet. [22:15] jamiedmattingly: http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/21/droid-incredible-owners-receive-one-of-the-first-really-polished-gingerbread-roms/ [22:16] You can get it on your DInc but, GPS and Video recording have issues still [22:21] DarkwingDuck: you put kubuntu mobile on the n900? [22:22] kdub_: One of the Devs for Kubuntu-Mobile did [22:22] I'm going to work on getting it on the Droid 1... It shouldn't have any hardware issues except maybe CDMA [22:22] Because Verizon uses CDMA and the rest of the world uses GMS [22:22] *GSM [22:23] So, I'll have to see [22:23] * kdub_ has an n900, that would be cool [22:24] but maemo is already a debian system, i might just leave it at "eh, close enough" ;-) [22:30] so you wouldnt be able to make calls? === jono_ is now known as jono === jono is now known as Guest37019 [22:33] kdub_: gemme a sec [22:34] kdub_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ARM/n900/ [22:55] DarkwingDuck: dang, pretty cool [22:58] kdub_: oh yeah. [22:59] * kdub_ has always been one to take linux on his phone over a phone that can actually call people :) [23:00] hehehe [23:02] * akk has a phone that can call people, and a separate device running linux [23:02] though I admit it would be neat to have both in the same box [23:08] the n900 does, right out of the box [23:08] i hope meego turns out more or less the same way === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond