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cyberangermeeting in 3000:32
cyberangerI should be back in 500:32
wrsthurry back00:35
cyberangerwrst: quick enough00:40
cyberangerI forgot I had to check my mail on the way, 7 minutes ;-)00:41
elijah-mbpgreetings00:46
cyberangergreetings stranger, pull up a stool00:46
cyberangerthe bar is open ;-)00:47
elijah-mbp*takes a squat*00:47
cyberangerwe have linux, it's my best brand of free beer00:47
cyberangerand once we fill you up with that, and we can tell your drunk, the speech usually follows00:48
cyberanger;-)00:49
cyberangerhow's it going elijah-mbp00:49
elijah-mbpjust tired.00:57
cyberangerhey orangeninja00:57
elijah-mbpreally things are pretty good, i just have a lot of stuff going on.00:57
cyberangerelijah-mbp: Advil PM might help with tired00:57
pace_t_zulucyberanger: you going to chair?00:57
cyberangerlandfills might help with having too much stuff, doesn't work for me00:58
cyberangerhumour aside, hope it eases on you elijah-mbp00:58
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I can00:58
cyberangerdo you have anything for an adgenda?00:58
elijah-mbpthank you much, cybes.  sympathy is appreciated :)00:58
elijah-mbpon the subject of ubuntu00:59
elijah-mbphas anyone gotten to the point of turning in their ubuntu member apps yet?00:59
elijah-mbpmine stalled, because i got freakishly busy with stuff.00:59
pace_t_zulucyberanger: please do, i have nothing for the agenda tonight01:01
orangeninjahey cyberranger01:01
cyberangerok, give me a second to prep things and then I'll que the bot01:01
wrstcyberanger:  your second is up01:02
cyberangercyberanger: and a note to myself, use the wiki01:02
cyberangerwrst: well, how about a minute, see if west tn leadership is gonna show up, since one item is both of them, the other is at least one01:03
cyberangerand linuxman410 I guess will just show or not (can't help that)01:03
wrstor might show and give us 15 seconds to respond cyberanger :)01:03
netritioushowdy locotn01:05
cyberangernetritious just showed, gathered my notes01:05
cyberangerjfenn2199 is out tonight I guess01:05
cyberangerjust one more minute, last bit here01:05
netritioushow's everyone?01:05
* cyberanger is pulling stats from chattacon's mirror server I ran, shame I didn't have a digital copy01:06
wrsthey netritious01:07
cyberangernetritious: enjoying the Chaos01:08
cyberangerwait, that's not right01:08
cyberanger:-|01:08
cyberangerok, I'm ready if everyone else is01:08
netritioushey cyberanger, wrst01:08
pace_t_zuluready01:08
cyberanger#startmeeting01:08
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wrstset01:08
pace_t_zulufirst! o/01:08
pace_t_zuludamnit wrst01:08
netritiouso/01:08
wrst:)01:08
wrsto/01:09
cyberanger[topic] internet fads, like saying FIRST01:09
MootBotNew Topic:  internet fads, like saying FIRST01:09
cyberangerjking01:09
cyberanger[topic] sitrep01:10
MootBotNew Topic:  sitrep01:10
* wrst is all business tonight 01:10
* netritious is tired01:10
wrsti have a pregnant wife so may be spotty for this meeting :\01:10
* orangeninja just signed up!01:10
cyberangernetritious: how about you kick that off, I know you had one meetup in west tn01:10
netritiousand I have about 20 minutes, 30 max01:10
pace_t_zului'm cool with this being a short meeting01:11
netritiouscool pace_t_zulu01:11
cyberangernetritious: how did your last meeting in memphis go ?01:11
cyberangershould be fairly short01:11
netritiousYes, there was a meeting in Memphis at the Midsouth Makers hackerspace01:11
cyberangertwo small things01:12
wrstpace_t_zulu: i'm a fan of short meetings regardless of what they involve01:12
cyberangernetritious: turnout, did it work01:12
netritious*meetup01:12
cyberangerI mean, everyone was cool with a loco meetup at a hackerspace01:12
cyberanger?01:12
netritiousSvpernova09, Dan9186, "Rick", and myself01:12
cyberangerwas the hackerspace also there?01:13
netritiousIt seems so01:13
cyberangerso, four people, good place01:14
netritiousIt seems so :)01:14
cyberangerok, pace_t_zulu anything for middle?01:14
pace_t_zulucyberanger: nothing for middle01:15
cyberangerok01:15
pace_t_zuluis anyone aware of any new members from middle tn?01:15
* orangeninja is middle tn01:15
cyberangerwell, I'll use the term, more active01:15
cyberangerthan I recall01:15
pace_t_zululast meetup we had included no regulars from irc01:15
cyberangerat least two, orangeninja being one01:15
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: good to hear01:15
netritiouson that note, are there any new members in west tn?01:16
netritioushi orangeninja01:16
cyberangernetritious: we've had some more active from west tn01:16
netritiousawesome01:16
cyberangerorias If I recall01:16
cyberangereast tn, sorta01:16
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: where in middle tn are you?01:16
cyberangerI've nudged some lately01:16
cyberangersee how it goes01:17
orangeninjapace_t_zulu: Nashville01:17
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: me too01:17
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: what part of nashville01:17
orangeninjaBellevue area West part of town01:17
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: cool, west nashville here too01:18
linuxman410launchpad still sending mail to wrong address01:18
orangeninjacool.01:18
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: feel free to add yourself to the members page on our wiki01:19
pace_t_zulu[link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/Members01:19
MootBotLINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/Members01:19
cyberangerin East TN, there was Chattacon's computer gaming, I tested a local mirror, and gonna continue working on it, hopefully it can be turned into a installfest kit01:19
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: would the vanderbilt area work for you for meetups?01:19
orangeninjapace_t_zulu: ok, I will I am trying to figure this open key thing out as we speak01:19
orangeninjapace_t_zulu: yeah, I think it'll be fine.01:20
cyberangerit did it's job exceptionally, great turnout, dunno if it got anyone intrested in ubuntu though (hard to guage directly)01:20
cyberangerand the domain is up for renewal, sounds like that's covered01:21
cyberangersorry, didn't mean to cut you two off01:22
cyberangerpace_t_zulu, orangeninja, anything to add?01:22
netritiousty cyberanger01:23
cyberangerlast thing, it's come to my attetion, our blog could use more content01:23
cyberangerkeep things fresh01:24
pace_t_zulucyberanger: no worries...01:24
netritioushow did this come to your attention?01:24
cyberangerso if anyone has any ubuntu related material, feel free to blog about it01:24
pace_t_zuludo we have any aspiring writers amongst us?01:24
cyberangernetritious: in this channel01:24
cyberangerwrst: was that you and I talking about that01:24
netritiousthat includes you too cyberanger :D01:25
wrstyes cyberanger01:25
netritiouslet's start a bash archive01:25
pace_t_zulunetritious: ?01:25
pace_t_zulunetritious: bash scripts?01:25
cyberangernetritious: aspiring is a bit strong, but I intend to pitch in01:25
netritioussure, it's easy to get into bash and might even help our indexing01:26
netritiousthose of us that can code and have handy little snippets could post them gpl or "whatever" ubuntu friendly license01:26
cyberangerI plan on some howto's for celluar and dial up01:26
netritious*"whichever"01:27
netritiousthat would be a great addition cyberanger01:27
cyberangernetritious: there was a recent post, and before that, august01:27
pace_t_zulunetritious: magic lines like the following?01:27
pace_t_zulusvn info -R | grep 'Last Changed Rev: ' | perl -pe "s/([\w|\s]*:\s)(\d*)/\$2/" | sort -nr | head -101:27
netritiousyep :D01:27
cyberangerthat was the issue, alot of time01:27
elijah-mbp;)01:28
cyberangeroh, can I have the leaders, pace_t_zulu, linuxman410, netritious, jfenn2199 (who's not here) startup the leadership meetings again?01:29
pace_t_zulucyberanger: sure01:29
cyberangerwhen would be good01:29
cyberangerI figure 7:30 CST, 8:30 EST (half hour later than the team meeting) since it seems one of us usually is a little behind01:30
pace_t_zulucyberanger: generally i can make myself available...01:30
cyberangermyself and jfenn2199 it seems is common01:30
pace_t_zulucyberanger: should we do thursday night?01:30
cyberangeris the 3rd wedensday what we did?01:30
netritiousyes01:30
pace_t_zulucyberanger: that's ok with me01:31
cyberangerwe could do 3rd thursday, if you'd like01:31
cyberangerjust something we can keep up with again01:31
pace_t_zulueither works for me01:32
cyberanger(btw: I lied when I said two things, this is three, but I think it's the last)01:32
cyberangerlinuxman410: ?01:32
cyberangerdoes that work?01:32
pace_t_zulucyberanger: set a regular meeting time and i will do my best to be there01:32
linuxman410yes01:33
pace_t_zulusorry i didn't attend the meeting last month... birthday dinner01:33
cyberangerlinuxman410: you can do thursday?01:33
netritiousnp pace_t_zulu we all understood01:33
linuxman410yeah01:33
pace_t_zuluso 3rd thursday of each month01:33
cyberanger(I'm leaning on thursday, due to the bible belt here, seems the easier day, if nobody has an issue)01:33
cyberangersounds like it01:34
netritiousall for it?01:34
pace_t_zuluayew01:34
pace_t_zuluaye01:34
linuxman410is first one on 17th on this month01:34
cyberanger[idea] Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST ?01:34
MootBotIDEA received:  Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST ?01:34
pace_t_zuluin my calendar01:34
cyberangercorrect?01:34
pace_t_zulucorrect01:34
netritious+101:35
cyberanger[confirmed]01:35
cyberangeroh, different bot uses that one01:35
cyberangerwe know we confirmed that01:35
cyberanger[idea] CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST01:35
MootBotIDEA received:  CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST01:35
pace_t_zulu[agreed]01:35
cyberangerthat works01:35
* cyberanger smacks head01:35
cyberanger[agreed]01:36
MootBotAGREED received:01:36
pace_t_zuluhaha01:36
cyberanger[agreed] CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST01:36
MootBotAGREED received:  CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST01:36
netritious^_^01:36
pace_t_zulubueno01:36
netritiousk guys and gals, g2g01:36
cyberangerthis is what I get for dealing with 3 bots now (soon to be four)01:36
wrstlater netritious have a good one01:36
cyberangernetritious: one last bit, keep up the good work01:36
cyberanger;-)01:36
netritiousu2 wrst, cyberanger, pace_t_zulu, orangeninja01:36
cyberangersee you later01:37
netritiousand linuxman41001:37
netritiousbrb wrst :P01:37
pace_t_zululater netritious01:37
linuxman410see ya01:37
wrstha ha see you next week netritious :)01:37
cyberangerI think with west tn already having something cooking01:37
orangeninjasee ya netritious01:37
cyberangerand january's sucesses01:37
cyberangerwe're good on planning events for the moment01:38
cyberangerif everyone could do two things, work on the blog, if your willing (and I hope some are ;-))01:39
cyberangerand if we can get ideas going on our mailing list01:39
pace_t_zulucyberanger: what's the word on becoming an official loco?01:40
cyberangerfor future loco events, or something you think the loco can do (leaving that one vauge, brainstorming, get all the ideas we can)01:40
cyberangerthat'd be apprecaited01:40
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I'm gonna update the wiki after the meeting, with chattacon's results01:41
cyberangerput it up01:41
cyberangerand give it a go (I couldn't make the last meeting, and the storm prevented me from asking if somebody could, if we didn't show, we wouldn't qualify)01:42
cyberangerso this month should be golden, we put alot of work into it last month01:42
cyberangerand I'd call it sustained, at this point01:43
pace_t_zulucool01:43
cyberangerone thing we do need (and this will be at the leadership plan) is to have a longer term plan, than the monthly bit01:43
cyberangermaybe not plan, but vision01:44
cyberangerI think that'd help get us approved, and help us stay active01:44
cyberangereven though leadership changes01:44
cyberangeroh, and the next month or so, I've got some changes in my life, kinda rocks the boat a little01:45
cyberangerbut I'm pretty much an internet addict, so it shouldn't affect the loco much01:46
cyberangerit didn't last time (when I had no ISP here)01:46
cyberangerthis time I have a plan that'll hold even better than my month out of town in june01:47
cyberangergotta be a little more frugal in my budgetting, killing the current ISP, before they take my other arm and leg01:47
cyberangerso, I might not be on as much (which is practically 24/7 now, so I'm talking 12/6 ;-))01:48
cyberangerI'm not concerned, it's enough to metion, not enough for worry01:49
cyberangerthat's all I got01:49
cyberangershould I close?01:49
pace_t_zulumotion to adjourn01:49
pace_t_zulu?01:49
pace_t_zuluis there anyone else here?01:50
cyberangerseconded by MootBot01:50
pace_t_zuluhaha01:50
orangeninjaha01:50
cyberangerall in favor,01:50
pace_t_zuluaye01:50
* cyberanger takes the laughter as a yes01:50
cyberangerany opposed01:50
cyberangernone01:50
cyberangergreat01:50
cyberanger#endmeeting01:50
MootBotMeeting finished at 19:50.01:50
pace_t_zulunice01:50
pace_t_zului gotta get going01:50
pace_t_zululater y'all01:51
cyberangersee you pace_t_zulu01:51
orangeninjasee you pace_t_zulu01:51
cyberangerOH, SNAP01:52
orangeninjawhat?01:52
cyberangerthe mailing list's daily digest is b0rked01:52
cyberangeracts as a monthly digest01:52
cyberangertrying to fix that01:52
cyberangermeant for that to be in the meeting01:52
cyberangerI'll stick it in the mailing list, it was just an announcement anyhow01:53
vychuneim sorrry02:54
vychunethat im late as hell02:54
cyberangerand short stay, after the meeting03:00
orangeninjaha ha03:06
Xpistosmorning all14:37
wrstmorning Xpistos14:40
Xpistosmorning wrst15:01
wrstyou doing ok Xpistos?15:02
XpistosI am alive15:02
Xpistoscan't complain beyond that15:02
Svpernova09Anyone have any experience with webhosting company that offers PCI compliant hosting accounts?15:06
Svpernova09I don't want to colo a machine, I just want an account.15:06
cyberangerSvpernova09: what are you wanting it for?15:23
cyberangerI assume your referring to PCI DSS15:25
cyberangerand not wanting a dedicated machine, having to colo one15:26
cyberangerand wanting it secure for cc payments (thus the PCI Compliant bit)15:26
Svpernova09Yea15:27
Svpernova09I just need to be able to have security metrics scan it and pass it.15:27
Svpernova09about to test drive websitesource.com15:27
cyberangerI don't trust that for anything less than a VPS15:29
cyberangereasy to pass when you hand them cash, they get sloppy, you suffer when it happens15:29
cyberangerbueratic quagmire15:30
Svpernova09meh, I scan monthly so if a site fails I can time to get it fixed or move it.15:32
Svpernova09PCI DSS says you have to pass once quarterly15:32
Svpernova09For my class anyway.15:32
Svpernova09And our websites have to be so nimble, I can't afford to do anything other htan a managed hosting account. I just don't have time to VPS and build everything out and manage it myself.15:33
cyberangerthere's allways a tradeoff15:34
Svpernova09Yep. Mainly I don't know centos well enough to build it bulletproof enough for hosting. And it comes to down the fact that I'd much rather pay them to do it and manage it. I always have a local copy of the data so if they roll over, die, or fall into the ocean I can have a site up and running before dns finishes propagating.15:36
cyberangerSvpernova09: with your requirements, and my trust in that standard (read: lack of) I can't recommend any16:08
cyberangerbut there are many that meet your criteria16:08
cyberangeryou might have to ask the host, not all cite the alphabet soup of certs and such on their site16:10
cyberangerSvpernova09: netrious would be worth asking16:11
Svpernova09Yeah16:14
cyberangeralso, centos isn't as hard as most expect, different from ubuntu, but reletavely small, centos being a common work distro due to cpanel, so despite my debian leanings, I am current on it16:15
cyberangerand if you can lock down one distro, you can lock them all16:16
cyberangersame tools mostly16:16
cyberangerif everything goes right, all work16:19
pace_t_zuluwrst: you there?16:22
wrsthey pace_t_zulu i'm presente!16:23
pace_t_zuluhow'd the natty install go?16:23
cyberangeranything goes wrong16:23
pace_t_zuluwrst: how'd the natty alpha 2 install go?16:27
cyberangerman my connection cut out there16:27
wrstpace_t_zulu: without any issue16:28
wrstit finally picked my 10.10 install back up with grub 216:28
pace_t_zuluwrst: how is the themeing?16:28
pace_t_zuluwrst: the default gnome theme is what i am seeing in my vbox install16:28
wrstgood they have added the new look to the applications and the search somewhat works16:28
pace_t_zuluand the vbox guest additions won't build because it says it can't find the correct kernel headers (even though the linux-headers package is installed16:29
wrstprobably nothing out there for the -8 kernel yet? i think its just now a RC isn't it?16:29
pace_t_zului hope it gets sorted out soon16:36
pace_t_zuluwrst: which brand graphics do you reckon is better.... nvidia or ati?16:36
wrstpace_t_zulu: i've always had better luck with nvidia, but ati has the best opensource drivers16:37
pace_t_zuluyea, my current mac pro has nvidia... the new one has ati16:37
wrstand I suppose intel is the most open source friendly but they are not exactly performance grade16:37
wrstpace_t_zulu: i've always heard that ati did not keep up with their proprietary drivers, but before my card got deprecated i had no real issues, but i must say i like nvidia's linux config gui a lot better16:38
pace_t_zuluyea... intel is probably the best support wise... not performance wise16:39
pace_t_zului'm glad i have intel in my macbook16:39
wrstmy nvidia card on my desktop is nice i have really liked them16:44
cyberangerbroad statement, intel wins, , after that it's firing a gun, with 1 in 5 being a dud16:57
wrstcyberanger: that being said i have two intel graphic machines at work with horrible problems when i try to run any linux distro on them :)16:59
cyberangerwrst: what chip?18:22
cyberangeroh, and I did start to look into your wifi chip18:22
wrstintel 845 somethign cyberanger its not a particularly good windows chip actually18:24
wrstcyberanger: they still don't have it working in alpha 218:25
wrstthe broadcom that is18:25
cyberangerwrst: since it's a natty issue, hard to spot, mutiple bug reps.18:25
cyberangerI'll keep a look18:25
wrstcyberanger: i have been too, i can tell its a known issue so i'm not going to make any more noise on it until a solution is available then i will test that18:26
cyberangeras for the intel, that's a poor chip, might help with 3d effects on a boat anchor18:26
wrstha ha even when not trying 3d which is disabled in later ubuntu18:29
wrsts18:29
wrstits not very good18:29
cyberangerwrst: well, to clarify, it's the issues to fix I'm looking at (for broadcom)18:30
cyberangerfor intel, what's the specs18:30
wrstoh intel 845/g18:31
wrstit doesn't work well with anything :)18:31
cyberangerfor the whole system18:32
cyberangertrying to gather it's era18:32
cyberangersounds old, not new18:33
cyberangerjust trying to date it18:33
wrst6 years or so cyberanger18:41
cyberangerabout the same for my workhorse18:52
cyberangerwhat processer type?18:52
cyberangerdid it predate vista, or around then?18:53
wrstpredate, by a little18:53
cyberangerso, Xp design dating 2004 at best18:57
cyberangerbased on the chip and timing 2003-04 intel 2d chip18:58
cyberangerpossibly a little newer, but not by much to predate vista designs18:58
wrstyes, 3d did work with 8.04/8.10 i beleieve18:59
wrstnot well18:59
wrstbut worked sorta18:59
cyberangerwell, design focus was 2d18:59
cyberangerin that era19:00
wrstyes , but that doesn't work very well :)19:01
cyberangerthey can do more, but it'd be lime moving a house with a ford pinto19:02
cyberangerbrb19:02
wrstha ha yes i would just like for them to do what a pinto is suposed to do19:03
wrstbut they are just crappy cards so that's pretty much that19:03
cyberangerwrst: explode on impact?19:18
wrstyes19:18
cyberangerwell, as much I like having a blast, that would be a waste19:19
netritiousTGIF22:22
pace_t_zuluanyone know what "-30-" means on twitter?22:30
netritiousI have no idea pace_t_zulu22:47
pace_t_zuluno one seems to22:47
pace_t_zulunetritious: ^22:47
netritiousin what context do you see it? just like that by itself?22:47
netritiousgoogle just gives me "30SECONDSTOMARS" results22:49
pace_t_zulunetritious: a friend of mine was asking23:03
pace_t_zulunetritious: http://largelandmammal.tumblr.com/post/3110301111/and-with-a-single-tweet-i-get-to-add-three-more23:03
pace_t_zulunetritious: seems to be an explanation here http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=440823:06
Svpernova09netritious: 7pm republic coffee DO IT23:41

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