[00:32] meeting in 30 [00:32] I should be back in 5 [00:35] hurry back [00:40] wrst: quick enough [00:41] I forgot I had to check my mail on the way, 7 minutes ;-) [00:46] greetings [00:46] greetings stranger, pull up a stool [00:47] the bar is open ;-) [00:47] *takes a squat* [00:47] we have linux, it's my best brand of free beer [00:48] and once we fill you up with that, and we can tell your drunk, the speech usually follows [00:49] ;-) [00:49] how's it going elijah-mbp [00:57] just tired. [00:57] hey orangeninja [00:57] really things are pretty good, i just have a lot of stuff going on. [00:57] elijah-mbp: Advil PM might help with tired [00:57] cyberanger: you going to chair? [00:58] landfills might help with having too much stuff, doesn't work for me [00:58] humour aside, hope it eases on you elijah-mbp [00:58] pace_t_zulu: I can [00:58] do you have anything for an adgenda? [00:58] thank you much, cybes. sympathy is appreciated :) [00:59] on the subject of ubuntu [00:59] has anyone gotten to the point of turning in their ubuntu member apps yet? [00:59] mine stalled, because i got freakishly busy with stuff. [01:01] cyberanger: please do, i have nothing for the agenda tonight [01:01] hey cyberranger [01:01] ok, give me a second to prep things and then I'll que the bot [01:02] cyberanger: your second is up [01:02] cyberanger: and a note to myself, use the wiki [01:03] wrst: well, how about a minute, see if west tn leadership is gonna show up, since one item is both of them, the other is at least one [01:03] and linuxman410 I guess will just show or not (can't help that) [01:03] or might show and give us 15 seconds to respond cyberanger :) [01:05] howdy locotn [01:05] netritious just showed, gathered my notes [01:05] jfenn2199 is out tonight I guess [01:05] just one more minute, last bit here [01:05] how's everyone? [01:06] * cyberanger is pulling stats from chattacon's mirror server I ran, shame I didn't have a digital copy [01:07] hey netritious [01:08] netritious: enjoying the Chaos [01:08] wait, that's not right [01:08] :-| [01:08] ok, I'm ready if everyone else is [01:08] hey cyberanger, wrst [01:08] ready [01:08] #startmeeting [01:08] Meeting started at 19:08. The chair is cyberanger. [01:08] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [01:08] set [01:08] first! o/ [01:08] damnit wrst [01:08] o/ [01:08] :) [01:09] o/ [01:09] [topic] internet fads, like saying FIRST [01:09] New Topic: internet fads, like saying FIRST [01:09] jking [01:10] [topic] sitrep [01:10] New Topic: sitrep [01:10] * wrst is all business tonight [01:10] * netritious is tired [01:10] i have a pregnant wife so may be spotty for this meeting :\ [01:10] * orangeninja just signed up! [01:10] netritious: how about you kick that off, I know you had one meetup in west tn [01:10] and I have about 20 minutes, 30 max [01:11] i'm cool with this being a short meeting [01:11] cool pace_t_zulu [01:11] netritious: how did your last meeting in memphis go ? [01:11] should be fairly short [01:11] Yes, there was a meeting in Memphis at the Midsouth Makers hackerspace [01:12] two small things [01:12] pace_t_zulu: i'm a fan of short meetings regardless of what they involve [01:12] netritious: turnout, did it work [01:12] *meetup [01:12] I mean, everyone was cool with a loco meetup at a hackerspace [01:12] ? [01:12] Svpernova09, Dan9186, "Rick", and myself [01:13] was the hackerspace also there? [01:13] It seems so [01:14] so, four people, good place [01:14] It seems so :) [01:14] ok, pace_t_zulu anything for middle? [01:15] cyberanger: nothing for middle [01:15] ok [01:15] is anyone aware of any new members from middle tn? [01:15] * orangeninja is middle tn [01:15] well, I'll use the term, more active [01:15] than I recall [01:15] last meetup we had included no regulars from irc [01:15] at least two, orangeninja being one [01:15] orangeninja: good to hear [01:16] on that note, are there any new members in west tn? [01:16] hi orangeninja [01:16] netritious: we've had some more active from west tn [01:16] awesome [01:16] orias If I recall [01:16] east tn, sorta [01:16] orangeninja: where in middle tn are you? [01:16] I've nudged some lately [01:17] see how it goes [01:17] pace_t_zulu: Nashville [01:17] orangeninja: me too [01:17] orangeninja: what part of nashville [01:17] Bellevue area West part of town [01:18] orangeninja: cool, west nashville here too [01:18] launchpad still sending mail to wrong address [01:18] cool. [01:19] orangeninja: feel free to add yourself to the members page on our wiki [01:19] [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/Members [01:19] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam/Members [01:19] in East TN, there was Chattacon's computer gaming, I tested a local mirror, and gonna continue working on it, hopefully it can be turned into a installfest kit [01:19] orangeninja: would the vanderbilt area work for you for meetups? [01:19] pace_t_zulu: ok, I will I am trying to figure this open key thing out as we speak [01:20] pace_t_zulu: yeah, I think it'll be fine. [01:20] it did it's job exceptionally, great turnout, dunno if it got anyone intrested in ubuntu though (hard to guage directly) [01:21] and the domain is up for renewal, sounds like that's covered [01:22] sorry, didn't mean to cut you two off [01:22] pace_t_zulu, orangeninja, anything to add? [01:23] ty cyberanger [01:23] last thing, it's come to my attetion, our blog could use more content [01:24] keep things fresh [01:24] cyberanger: no worries... [01:24] how did this come to your attention? [01:24] so if anyone has any ubuntu related material, feel free to blog about it [01:24] do we have any aspiring writers amongst us? [01:24] netritious: in this channel [01:24] wrst: was that you and I talking about that [01:25] that includes you too cyberanger :D [01:25] yes cyberanger [01:25] let's start a bash archive [01:25] netritious: ? [01:25] netritious: bash scripts? [01:25] netritious: aspiring is a bit strong, but I intend to pitch in [01:26] sure, it's easy to get into bash and might even help our indexing [01:26] those of us that can code and have handy little snippets could post them gpl or "whatever" ubuntu friendly license [01:26] I plan on some howto's for celluar and dial up [01:27] *"whichever" [01:27] that would be a great addition cyberanger [01:27] netritious: there was a recent post, and before that, august [01:27] netritious: magic lines like the following? [01:27] svn info -R | grep 'Last Changed Rev: ' | perl -pe "s/([\w|\s]*:\s)(\d*)/\$2/" | sort -nr | head -1 [01:27] yep :D [01:27] that was the issue, alot of time [01:28] ;) [01:29] oh, can I have the leaders, pace_t_zulu, linuxman410, netritious, jfenn2199 (who's not here) startup the leadership meetings again? [01:29] cyberanger: sure [01:29] when would be good [01:30] I figure 7:30 CST, 8:30 EST (half hour later than the team meeting) since it seems one of us usually is a little behind [01:30] cyberanger: generally i can make myself available... [01:30] myself and jfenn2199 it seems is common [01:30] cyberanger: should we do thursday night? [01:30] is the 3rd wedensday what we did? [01:30] yes [01:31] cyberanger: that's ok with me [01:31] we could do 3rd thursday, if you'd like [01:31] just something we can keep up with again [01:32] either works for me [01:32] (btw: I lied when I said two things, this is three, but I think it's the last) [01:32] linuxman410: ? [01:32] does that work? [01:32] cyberanger: set a regular meeting time and i will do my best to be there [01:33] yes [01:33] sorry i didn't attend the meeting last month... birthday dinner [01:33] linuxman410: you can do thursday? [01:33] np pace_t_zulu we all understood [01:33] yeah [01:33] so 3rd thursday of each month [01:33] (I'm leaning on thursday, due to the bible belt here, seems the easier day, if nobody has an issue) [01:34] sounds like it [01:34] all for it? [01:34] ayew [01:34] aye [01:34] is first one on 17th on this month [01:34] [idea] Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST ? [01:34] IDEA received: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST ? [01:34] in my calendar [01:34] correct? [01:34] correct [01:35] +1 [01:35] [confirmed] [01:35] oh, different bot uses that one [01:35] we know we confirmed that [01:35] [idea] CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST [01:35] IDEA received: CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST [01:35] [agreed] [01:35] that works [01:35] * cyberanger smacks head [01:36] [agreed] [01:36] AGREED received: [01:36] haha [01:36] [agreed] CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST [01:36] AGREED received: CONFIRMED: Hold Leadership meetings on the 3rd Thursday, 8:30 EST, 7:30 CST [01:36] ^_^ [01:36] bueno [01:36] k guys and gals, g2g [01:36] this is what I get for dealing with 3 bots now (soon to be four) [01:36] later netritious have a good one [01:36] netritious: one last bit, keep up the good work [01:36] ;-) [01:36] u2 wrst, cyberanger, pace_t_zulu, orangeninja [01:37] see you later [01:37] and linuxman410 [01:37] brb wrst :P [01:37] later netritious [01:37] see ya [01:37] ha ha see you next week netritious :) [01:37] I think with west tn already having something cooking [01:37] see ya netritious [01:37] and january's sucesses [01:38] we're good on planning events for the moment [01:39] if everyone could do two things, work on the blog, if your willing (and I hope some are ;-)) [01:39] and if we can get ideas going on our mailing list [01:40] cyberanger: what's the word on becoming an official loco? [01:40] for future loco events, or something you think the loco can do (leaving that one vauge, brainstorming, get all the ideas we can) [01:40] that'd be apprecaited [01:41] pace_t_zulu: I'm gonna update the wiki after the meeting, with chattacon's results [01:41] put it up [01:42] and give it a go (I couldn't make the last meeting, and the storm prevented me from asking if somebody could, if we didn't show, we wouldn't qualify) [01:42] so this month should be golden, we put alot of work into it last month [01:43] and I'd call it sustained, at this point [01:43] cool [01:43] one thing we do need (and this will be at the leadership plan) is to have a longer term plan, than the monthly bit [01:44] maybe not plan, but vision [01:44] I think that'd help get us approved, and help us stay active [01:44] even though leadership changes [01:45] oh, and the next month or so, I've got some changes in my life, kinda rocks the boat a little [01:46] but I'm pretty much an internet addict, so it shouldn't affect the loco much [01:46] it didn't last time (when I had no ISP here) [01:47] this time I have a plan that'll hold even better than my month out of town in june [01:47] gotta be a little more frugal in my budgetting, killing the current ISP, before they take my other arm and leg [01:48] so, I might not be on as much (which is practically 24/7 now, so I'm talking 12/6 ;-)) [01:49] I'm not concerned, it's enough to metion, not enough for worry [01:49] that's all I got [01:49] should I close? [01:49] motion to adjourn [01:49] ? [01:50] is there anyone else here? [01:50] seconded by MootBot [01:50] haha [01:50] ha [01:50] all in favor, [01:50] aye [01:50] * cyberanger takes the laughter as a yes [01:50] any opposed [01:50] none [01:50] great [01:50] #endmeeting [01:50] Meeting finished at 19:50. [01:50] nice [01:50] i gotta get going [01:51] later y'all [01:51] see you pace_t_zulu [01:51] see you pace_t_zulu [01:52] OH, SNAP [01:52] what? [01:52] the mailing list's daily digest is b0rked [01:52] acts as a monthly digest [01:52] trying to fix that [01:52] meant for that to be in the meeting [01:53] I'll stick it in the mailing list, it was just an announcement anyhow [02:54] im sorrry [02:54] that im late as hell [03:00] and short stay, after the meeting [03:06] ha ha [14:37] morning all [14:40] morning Xpistos [15:01] morning wrst [15:02] you doing ok Xpistos? [15:02] I am alive [15:02] can't complain beyond that [15:06] Anyone have any experience with webhosting company that offers PCI compliant hosting accounts? [15:06] I don't want to colo a machine, I just want an account. [15:23] Svpernova09: what are you wanting it for? [15:25] I assume your referring to PCI DSS [15:26] and not wanting a dedicated machine, having to colo one [15:26] and wanting it secure for cc payments (thus the PCI Compliant bit) [15:27] Yea [15:27] I just need to be able to have security metrics scan it and pass it. [15:27] about to test drive websitesource.com [15:29] I don't trust that for anything less than a VPS [15:29] easy to pass when you hand them cash, they get sloppy, you suffer when it happens [15:30] bueratic quagmire [15:32] meh, I scan monthly so if a site fails I can time to get it fixed or move it. [15:32] PCI DSS says you have to pass once quarterly [15:32] For my class anyway. [15:33] And our websites have to be so nimble, I can't afford to do anything other htan a managed hosting account. I just don't have time to VPS and build everything out and manage it myself. [15:34] there's allways a tradeoff [15:36] Yep. Mainly I don't know centos well enough to build it bulletproof enough for hosting. And it comes to down the fact that I'd much rather pay them to do it and manage it. I always have a local copy of the data so if they roll over, die, or fall into the ocean I can have a site up and running before dns finishes propagating. [16:08] Svpernova09: with your requirements, and my trust in that standard (read: lack of) I can't recommend any [16:08] but there are many that meet your criteria [16:10] you might have to ask the host, not all cite the alphabet soup of certs and such on their site [16:11] Svpernova09: netrious would be worth asking [16:14] Yeah [16:15] also, centos isn't as hard as most expect, different from ubuntu, but reletavely small, centos being a common work distro due to cpanel, so despite my debian leanings, I am current on it [16:16] and if you can lock down one distro, you can lock them all [16:16] same tools mostly [16:19] if everything goes right, all work [16:22] wrst: you there? [16:23] hey pace_t_zulu i'm presente! [16:23] how'd the natty install go? [16:23] anything goes wrong [16:27] wrst: how'd the natty alpha 2 install go? [16:27] man my connection cut out there [16:28] pace_t_zulu: without any issue [16:28] it finally picked my 10.10 install back up with grub 2 [16:28] wrst: how is the themeing? [16:28] wrst: the default gnome theme is what i am seeing in my vbox install [16:28] good they have added the new look to the applications and the search somewhat works [16:29] and the vbox guest additions won't build because it says it can't find the correct kernel headers (even though the linux-headers package is installed [16:29] probably nothing out there for the -8 kernel yet? i think its just now a RC isn't it? [16:36] i hope it gets sorted out soon [16:36] wrst: which brand graphics do you reckon is better.... nvidia or ati? [16:37] pace_t_zulu: i've always had better luck with nvidia, but ati has the best opensource drivers [16:37] yea, my current mac pro has nvidia... the new one has ati [16:37] and I suppose intel is the most open source friendly but they are not exactly performance grade [16:38] pace_t_zulu: i've always heard that ati did not keep up with their proprietary drivers, but before my card got deprecated i had no real issues, but i must say i like nvidia's linux config gui a lot better [16:39] yea... intel is probably the best support wise... not performance wise [16:39] i'm glad i have intel in my macbook [16:44] my nvidia card on my desktop is nice i have really liked them [16:57] broad statement, intel wins, , after that it's firing a gun, with 1 in 5 being a dud [16:59] cyberanger: that being said i have two intel graphic machines at work with horrible problems when i try to run any linux distro on them :) [18:22] wrst: what chip? [18:22] oh, and I did start to look into your wifi chip [18:24] intel 845 somethign cyberanger its not a particularly good windows chip actually [18:25] cyberanger: they still don't have it working in alpha 2 [18:25] the broadcom that is [18:25] wrst: since it's a natty issue, hard to spot, mutiple bug reps. [18:25] I'll keep a look [18:26] cyberanger: i have been too, i can tell its a known issue so i'm not going to make any more noise on it until a solution is available then i will test that [18:26] as for the intel, that's a poor chip, might help with 3d effects on a boat anchor [18:29] ha ha even when not trying 3d which is disabled in later ubuntu [18:29] s [18:29] its not very good [18:30] wrst: well, to clarify, it's the issues to fix I'm looking at (for broadcom) [18:30] for intel, what's the specs [18:31] oh intel 845/g [18:31] it doesn't work well with anything :) [18:32] for the whole system [18:32] trying to gather it's era [18:33] sounds old, not new [18:33] just trying to date it [18:41] 6 years or so cyberanger [18:52] about the same for my workhorse [18:52] what processer type? [18:53] did it predate vista, or around then? [18:53] predate, by a little [18:57] so, Xp design dating 2004 at best [18:58] based on the chip and timing 2003-04 intel 2d chip [18:58] possibly a little newer, but not by much to predate vista designs [18:59] yes, 3d did work with 8.04/8.10 i beleieve [18:59] not well [18:59] but worked sorta [18:59] well, design focus was 2d [19:00] in that era [19:01] yes , but that doesn't work very well :) [19:02] they can do more, but it'd be lime moving a house with a ford pinto [19:02] brb [19:03] ha ha yes i would just like for them to do what a pinto is suposed to do [19:03] but they are just crappy cards so that's pretty much that [19:18] wrst: explode on impact? [19:18] yes [19:19] well, as much I like having a blast, that would be a waste [22:22] TGIF [22:30] anyone know what "-30-" means on twitter? [22:47] I have no idea pace_t_zulu [22:47] no one seems to [22:47] netritious: ^ [22:47] in what context do you see it? just like that by itself? [22:49] google just gives me "30SECONDSTOMARS" results [23:03] netritious: a friend of mine was asking [23:03] netritious: http://largelandmammal.tumblr.com/post/3110301111/and-with-a-single-tweet-i-get-to-add-three-more [23:06] netritious: seems to be an explanation here http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=4408 [23:41] netritious: 7pm republic coffee DO IT