| BUGabundo | o/ uh uh | 01:07 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | so the network applet is broken :\ | 01:08 |
| Daekdroom | BUGabundo, it's working alright in here | 01:09 |
| coz_ | is anyone having issues with usb? external drives in particular | 01:23 |
| coz_ | I am finding ,, only recently that files on externals are being corrupted | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | coz_: not really | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | altough one of my external disks is diying | 01:24 |
| coz_ | mm I know its not the drive,, if I hook it up via IDE all is well | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | making backups of most important data now | 01:24 |
| coz_ | only via usb are files being corrupted | 01:24 |
| BUGabundo | no corruption here | 01:24 |
| coz_ | mmm | 01:26 |
| coz_ | BUGabundo, I will have to check hardware I guess... | 01:27 |
| === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq | ||
| blixten | anyone here know how to run x86 32bit bins on a ppc64 ubuntu 64 system? | 01:48 |
| coz_ | blixten, I dont ,, I was under the impression that ppc64 could only run the 64 bit version | 01:57 |
| rww | ppc64 can't run i686 or x86_64 binaries without emulation, as far as I know. | 01:58 |
| rww | and I don't know if there's a viable emulator. | 01:58 |
| blixten | :( | 02:00 |
| sagaci | when do the daily development images get generated, at what time each day? | 03:45 |
| rww | the cdimage server says "Last modified" for them was 13:37 (someone totally did that deliberately). That's probably UTC. | 04:01 |
| coz_ | hey guys,,, is anything being done about t hat "grab" handle? it is showing up permanently in screenlets...real irritating | 04:10 |
| coz_ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/impulse-trinagle.png | 04:10 |
| endless | good morning everyone | 04:51 |
| coz_ | hey guy | 04:51 |
| endless | hey coz_, see you again | 04:52 |
| coz_ | endless, leaving already? | 04:55 |
| coz_ | well that was a P*&ser" | 04:59 |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| gunndawg | so how is Natty shaping up? | 09:10 |
| sudo_zoel | hello everyone | 10:15 |
| sagaci | hi | 10:18 |
| sudo_zoel | what's new from 11.04? | 10:38 |
| sagaci | heaps | 10:39 |
| gunndawg | how is natty shaping up? | 10:47 |
| gunndawg | Im stickin with 10.10 for now | 10:47 |
| sagaci | kernel panics on the daily's and alpha 2 | 10:49 |
| yofel | I'm not getting those, but regular GPU lockups with nouveau on my notebook | 10:50 |
| gunndawg | Think I'll just hang on to 10.10 until 11.04 is released, even then I might give it a bit of time to grow | 11:08 |
| gunndawg | unless I hear good enough things about it on launch | 11:09 |
| sagaci | final releases are pretty good, a week later and most of the pressing issues are resolved | 11:12 |
| gunndawg | I hope I can get my mic jack to work in Natty so I can use skype audio | 11:21 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| coz_ | good day | 12:29 |
| penguin42 | is it? Haven't made up my mind yet | 12:30 |
| Q-FUNK | has anybody else encountered a situation where gdm stalls after selecting the user from the face browser and then never launches the gnome session? | 12:36 |
| coz_ | Q-FUNK, not that exactly but withouty fail... it takes sometimes 3 or 4 resets of the system to actually boot to gdm h ere.. not sure if it is related to scsi drives yet | 12:37 |
| Q-FUNK | coz_: ok. different issue, then. here, booting works flawlessly, but gdm stalls. | 12:38 |
| coz_ | Q-FUNK, yeah understood... but aparenlty there are boot issues :) | 12:39 |
| coz_ | Q-FUNK, out of curiosity,,, does this happen on each boot? doest it solve itself if you keep rebooting? | 12:41 |
| coz_ | resolve rather | 12:41 |
| Q-FUNK | coz_: it has happened ever since I upgraded from maverick. it never resolved itself. I ended up having to install lxdm from console just to be able to login. | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | Q-FUNK: I'd go and try digging in some logs to see if there is anything showing up; if you select one of the failsafe sessions does it let you login? | 12:45 |
| coz_ | what is the status of fixing that "grab" handle? here on some applications, it is a permanently visible bug http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/grabhandle.png | 13:12 |
| yofel | iirc the bug is still open, I see them too here | 13:22 |
| valkyrie | hello, does natty have a live dvd? | 13:27 |
| Hew | I've been trying to upgrade to natty for over a week now, but I keep getting the following message: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | 13:38 |
| Hew | I can't see what the problem could be, anyone else heard of this issue? | 13:38 |
| penguin42 | how have you been trying to do the upgrade? | 14:09 |
| sidnei | Hew, check the log file it has more info | 14:11 |
| sidnei | Hew, i cant remember the filename, but i its in /var/log/ | 14:12 |
| Hew | penguin42, update-manager -d | 14:12 |
| penguin42 | Hew: OK, and is that the whole error you get or is there any more? Do you have any PPAs installed? | 14:13 |
| Hew | sidnei, I have looked through /var/log/dist-upgrade but can't find anything useful, like an error on a package or something. I thought before alpha 2 maybe it was xorg breakage, but that can't be the case anymore. | 14:14 |
| Hew | penguin42, sure I have local packages, I have tried the upgrade with all third party repos turned off. If it said what package was causing the problem I would be able to do something about it. | 14:15 |
| Hew | I already went and undid my xorg-edgers packages, but that didn't help | 14:15 |
| penguin42 | Hew: did you use ppa-purge to do that? | 14:15 |
| Hew | no, I have not heard of that | 14:15 |
| penguin42 | Hew: It's a program (that I think xorg-edgers installs?) that can be used for removing ppa's - it does a good job cleaning up | 14:16 |
| penguin42 | it's in the ppa-purge package | 14:17 |
| penguin42 | Hew: The other thing you could try is do-release-update -d from the command line, I wonder if it will give you more debug | 14:17 |
| Hew | thanks penguin42 I'll try that now | 14:18 |
| Hew | penguin42, just the same messages | 14:30 |
| Hew | Calculating the changes | 14:30 |
| Hew | Calculating the changes | 14:30 |
| Hew | Could not calculate the upgrade | 14:30 |
| penguin42 | hmph | 14:32 |
| penguin42 | Hew: OK, in that case I'd try removing any other ppa stuff you have, especially any library or core stuff; don't just remove the ppas from the sources.list; you need to downgrade the packages to the standard ones | 14:33 |
| Hew | penguin42, I am removing all local packages now.. sucks | 14:34 |
| andreas | I crippled my system with trying to update to python2.7 today. I seem to hit Bug 689615 but I have no idea how to fix it. | 14:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 689615 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "pycompile fixes needed for maverick" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689615 | 14:38 |
| andreas | I now forced dpkg to remove all 2.6 python packages, but the configure for python2.7-minimal still doesn't work | 14:39 |
| andreas | It complains: "python or pycompile not found in public_modules.rtinstall hook." | 14:40 |
| andreas | Does anyone know a way to fix this mess? | 14:40 |
| penguin42 | Hew: It's probably just one package with a weird dependency | 14:40 |
| Hew | penguin42, I'd think if it was one package it would be clear from the error displayed, or at least from the logs, what the problem was | 14:44 |
| penguin42 | Hew: Yeh I'm susrprised you're not seeing more logs | 14:45 |
| Hew | all the logs show is the upgrade logic solving all the issues, then it ends and doesn't seem to have worked | 14:45 |
| penguin42 | Hew: Can you put one of those logs in a pastebin? | 14:46 |
| Hew | I've removed all local packages now so I'm attempting to upgrade again, will post when this one fails.. | 14:47 |
| Hew | penguin42, whoa it looks like it's working! | 14:49 |
| penguin42 | wahey! | 14:49 |
| Hew | maybe it was medibuntu upgraded packages.. | 14:49 |
| Hew | penguin42, thanks for your help! | 14:49 |
| penguin42 | no problem | 14:49 |
| andreas | Is there a way to securely remove python2.6* packages from the system - seems like I missed some | 14:53 |
| penguin42 | andreas: dpkg -l \*2.6\*|grep python|grep -v ^un lists the ones I have left installed | 15:09 |
| andreas | penguin42: Thanks - I purged that one, too - but it still complains | 15:11 |
| andreas | I even found the point in pycompile were it fails - but I don't know how to fix it | 15:12 |
| bullgard4 | !gnome3 | 15:13 |
| penguin42 | sorry, I don't know anything about the innards of python | 15:14 |
| andreas | penguin42: me neither :( | 15:15 |
| avis | can anyone recommend a ppa to run unity under maverick ? | 15:56 |
| === andreas is now known as LCID_Fire | ||
| valkyrie | i have tried, none can pass the certification | 16:02 |
| valkyrie | so, i have no guts to install them | 16:03 |
| valkyrie | lol, my toolbars disappeared randomly | 16:15 |
| valkyrie | what a buggy natty! | 16:15 |
| valkyrie | i have to kill the gdm and restart again | 16:15 |
| Daekdroom | Unity is crashing randomly for pretty much anyone. | 16:16 |
| Daekdroom | Use classic gnome. | 16:16 |
| penguin42 | compiz on classic is being a bit crashy as well | 16:17 |
| Daekdroom | That is why I use (No effect) | 16:17 |
| coz_ | unless you compile 0.9 from git... but there are still bugs there | 16:18 |
| valkyrie | unity is a not-bad eye-candy | 16:18 |
| valkyrie | i am exciting to use 11.04 | 16:19 |
| valkyrie | hehehe | 16:19 |
| * valkyrie kicks fedora out of the door | 16:20 | |
| === marcos_ is now known as Daekdroom | ||
| Omega | valkyrie: Remember the CoC. | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | seems like alpha software still has bugs in it, huh? | 16:39 |
| valkyrie | coc? | 16:40 |
| Daekdroom | Code of Conduct | 16:40 |
| Daekdroom | !CoC | 16:40 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct . | 16:40 |
| valkyrie | i have no email, so i don't think i can sign on something | 16:41 |
| charlie-tca | You still agreed to follow it when you come into any #ubuntu++++ channel | 16:42 |
| Daekdroom | Actually, we agreed to follow the TermsOfService | 16:42 |
| Daekdroom | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService | 16:43 |
| Daekdroom | Which implies following the CoC ;) | 16:43 |
| bazhang | valkyrie, it has zero to do with email, you need to follow it in ubuntu channels whether you choose to sign it or not | 16:52 |
| coz_ | hey guys ,, out of curiosity... generally when do sites like this get updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsAsus#USB | 17:20 |
| coz_ | sorry t his one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | coz_: I think it's just a wiki, so it depends on the person who wrote it | 17:21 |
| coz_ | penguin42, ah ok... that I understand.. its unfortunate it is a bit outdated in terms of which ubuntu version ;( | 17:21 |
| penguin42 | coz_: Feel free to update it I think | 17:21 |
| coz_ | penguin42, :) if I had the info I would definitly do that... | 17:22 |
| coz_ | I may have to use a wireless usb so I checked there but no biggie | 17:22 |
| daniel__ | hi @all | 19:54 |
| daniel__ | How can I enable ALT+F2 dialouge in Unity 2D? | 19:54 |
| Daekdroom | I'm now forced to use Windows :( | 20:28 |
| rork | why? | 20:31 |
| Daekdroom | Some odd regression. | 20:32 |
| Daekdroom | 11.04 has trouble communicating with my router. | 20:32 |
| Daekdroom | It works, but the quality is awful. | 20:32 |
| yofel | you really should have a fallback installation on a flash drive at least when using natty.. | 20:32 |
| yofel | hm, ralink? | 20:32 |
| yofel | I did notice my eeePC being unstable | 20:33 |
| Daekdroom | MCP61 ethernet chip and a DSLink 260E router | 20:33 |
| alex_mayorga | Can I get some pairs of eyes on bug 713781 please? | 20:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 713781 in xorg (Ubuntu) "[natty] Video corruption on kernel 2.6.38-1-generic and nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 230M] (rev a2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713781 | 20:33 |
| yofel | oh, *that* | 20:34 |
| yofel | alex_mayorga: yeah, I see that too, but that's *before* X comes up | 20:34 |
| yofel | so that's the KMS framebuffer I would say | 20:35 |
| coz_ | hey guys | 20:35 |
| yofel | hi coz_ | 20:35 |
| coz_ | yofel, hey guy :) | 20:35 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: but you do get X, right? | 20:35 |
| yofel | I do here | 20:35 |
| alex_mayorga | in my case is all garbled, I think I uploaded the picture of it | 20:35 |
| yofel | you can add me to the ranks of GPU lockup cards with nouveau though :( | 20:35 |
| yofel | yeah, I see that too here, but X starts after that with nouveau | 20:36 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: nVidia? | 20:36 |
| yofel | alex_mayorga: yep | 20:36 |
| yofel | I'll probably ping bryce later for some debugging instructions | 20:36 |
| alex_mayorga | mine does start as I can hear the bongo if I type my password, but gdm is all garbled | 20:37 |
| yofel | nouveau works perfectly fine on my desktop, but my notebook is a mess | 20:37 |
| alex_mayorga | 2.6.37-12 would have to do for now | 20:37 |
| yofel | I think I actually managed to get a dozen freezes in one hour once | 20:37 |
| alex_mayorga | maybe I should go try edgers, do you now how? | 20:38 |
| alex_mayorga | s/now/know | 20:38 |
| alex_mayorga | or maybe try squeeze :) | 20:38 |
| yofel | add ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-edgers, probably the wrong URL though | 20:38 |
| Daekdroom | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa | 20:38 |
| Daekdroom | x-swat is for stable updates. | 20:38 |
| yofel | ah, that one ;) | 20:38 |
| yofel | ah | 20:38 |
| Daekdroom | Altho you must read the PPA page in launchpad before adding, really. | 20:39 |
| alex_mayorga | Daekdroom: OK, I will thanks! | 20:39 |
| alex_mayorga | at #nouveau they tell me to disable vesafb, can anyone tell me how? | 20:46 |
| Daekdroom | Has anyone seen anything like bug #713443 before? | 20:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 713443 in Ubuntu "DSL Router modem doesn't work correctly with MCP61 ethernet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713443 | 20:48 |
| yofel | alex_mayorga: not really, I think we use vesafb by default now since the last grub changes | 20:50 |
| yofel | to get plymouth graphical mode to work with non-kms drivers | 20:50 |
| bjsnider | well, plymouth is very crucial | 20:51 |
| bjsnider | extremely crucial, even | 20:52 |
| yofel | yeah, but nouveau doesn't seem to like those changes | 20:52 |
| yofel | first I get graphical plymouth with 640x480 res, then pixel garbage, then X | 20:52 |
| yofel | plymouth is only fine on shutdown | 20:52 |
| yofel | nouveau framebuffer rather | 20:53 |
| daniel__ | Where's this channel logged? | 20:54 |
| guntbert | !logs | daniel__ | 20:55 |
| ubottu | daniel__: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 20:55 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: so no way to disable it then? | 20:58 |
| daniel__ | thank you | 20:58 |
| yofel | alex_mayorga: I don't know how | 20:58 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: I see, thanks anyway | 20:59 |
| yofel | hm... | 20:59 |
| yofel | setting GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text in /etc/default/grub might help | 20:59 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: is that to me? | 21:00 |
| yofel | alex_mayorga: yep | 21:01 |
| alex_mayorga | so I just add "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text" anywhere? | 21:02 |
| yofel | yes | 21:04 |
| yofel | that should disable the graphical kernel mode that sets vesafb up IIRC | 21:05 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: let me try that one | 21:05 |
| alex_mayorga | BRB, hopefully :) | 21:05 |
| Daekdroom | Looks like I fixed network-manager. | 21:15 |
| Daekdroom | Aw.. It's still not working alright :( | 21:16 |
| alex_mayorga | yofel: nothing except this time the text from the boot stayed in there :) | 21:21 |
| yofel | :S | 21:21 |
| alex_mayorga | any other tips? | 21:22 |
| ethana2 | howdy-- nVidia user here.. I | 21:41 |
| ethana2 | whoops, hit enter.. I've tried every driver I can think of on 11.04, and haven't been able to get 3d working yet | 21:41 |
| ethana2 | Is this likely to be fixed soon or is it fixed already? ..or is it going to be a week or two or something? | 21:41 |
| paradigmflow | I've just done an upgrade using the terminal method and it still says 10.10? | 21:42 |
| penguin42 | says where? | 21:42 |
| paradigmflow | on the loading screen | 21:43 |
| paradigmflow | and monitor window | 21:43 |
| paradigmflow | system monitor | 21:43 |
| penguin42 | hmm - can you do a uname -a and tell me what it says? | 21:44 |
| ethana2 | ah, the magic or release notes | 21:44 |
| paradigmflow | 2.6.35-25-generic | 21:45 |
| penguin42 | sounds like it hasn't upgraded | 21:45 |
| paradigmflow | :( | 21:45 |
| penguin42 | ok, so how did you upgrade? | 21:45 |
| paradigmflow | from the dos window | 21:46 |
| penguin42 | how? | 21:46 |
| penguin42 | (It's not a dos window, it's a shell) | 21:46 |
| paradigmflow | :$ | 21:46 |
| penguin42 | yeh, so what did you do to upgrade | 21:46 |
| paradigmflow | I typed "update-manager -d" | 21:47 |
| paradigmflow | it said a new distro is available | 21:48 |
| penguin42 | ok, then what? | 21:48 |
| paradigmflow | 11.04 | 21:48 |
| paradigmflow | then I followed the prompts | 21:48 |
| paradigmflow | intructions | 21:48 |
| penguin42 | any errors? | 21:49 |
| paradigmflow | it asked me whether I wanted to keep maverick or install newer version | 21:49 |
| paradigmflow | nope | 21:49 |
| paradigmflow | got to the restart at the end of the script/install | 21:49 |
| penguin42 | how long did it take? | 21:49 |
| paradigmflow | about 45 mins | 21:49 |
| paradigmflow | it downloaded the distro about a 1gig I think and then started the install | 21:50 |
| paradigmflow | all looked well | 21:50 |
| paradigmflow | until I rebooted | 21:51 |
| paradigmflow | :( | 21:51 |
| penguin42 | odd, sounds reasonable - did you tick the thing about trying stuff in aufs ? | 21:52 |
| paradigmflow | yes | 21:53 |
| penguin42 | hmm, I've never done that and don't know how it works, it's supposed to let you revert to the old-unupgraded version, and it sounds like you've done that somehow | 21:53 |
| paradigmflow | I'm running it again | 21:54 |
| paradigmflow | got this: WARNING: Failed to read mirror file | 21:54 |
| paradigmflow | now it's calculating the changes | 21:55 |
| paradigmflow | some hd grinding going on :$ | 21:55 |
| paradigmflow | hmm...E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 21:57 |
| penguin42 | any more errors before that ? | 21:59 |
| paradigmflow | A deprecation warning | 22:00 |
| penguin42 | can you paste the full set of errors to a pastebin? | 22:00 |
| paradigmflow | not used it yet :( | 22:01 |
| paradigmflow | Checking for a new ubuntu release | 22:02 |
| paradigmflow | /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/progress/old.py:134: DeprecationWarning: apt.progress.FetchProgress is deprecated. | 22:02 |
| paradigmflow | theres 9 of those | 22:02 |
| paradigmflow | relating to different packages | 22:03 |
| paradigmflow | extracting 'natty.tar.gz' | 22:04 |
| paradigmflow | authenticate 'natty.tar.gz' against 'natty.tar.gz.gpg' | 22:04 |
| paradigmflow | then the error I just posted | 22:04 |
| penguin42 | be much better if you could paste to a pastebin, but still, that all looks OK | 22:05 |
| alex_mayorga | how do I get back the calendar applet? | 22:25 |
| alex_mayorga | using ubuntu classic desktop | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | hey guys can anyone recommend me a easy to setup SIP server ? | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | with TLS support | 22:55 |
| genii-around | asterisk? | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | too complex for a simple test genii-around | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | is it safe to remove 5) xserver-xorg-video-nv ? | 23:06 |
| yofel | should be, it's not used anyway these days | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | I got an upgrade pending on that | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: anyidea why gwibber is showing *old* notifications bubbles? | 23:08 |
| yofel | nope, I don't use it | 23:09 |
| genii-around | !info ser | 23:16 |
| ubottu | ser (source: ser): high-performance SIP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-4ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1424 kB, installed size 3740 kB | 23:16 |
| genii-around | hm | 23:16 |
| johnjohn101 | i can't wait to try unity on the live cd | 23:16 |
| genii-around | BUGabundo: I'm not sure how easy or not it is to set up, but probably less work than asterisk | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | will try sipwitch | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | will keep an eye on that ser, genii-around | 23:18 |
| LLStarks | proposal: rename ubuntu classic desktop to "natty light" | 23:27 |
| BUGabundo | ahaha | 23:28 |
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