| BiosElement | I find it awesome how a dude who's already stalked two of my 'underage' female friends is off after another yet again. >.< | 05:04 |
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| gilbert | paultag: ping | 17:10 |
| gilbert | paultag: so, read ur latest blog post. the one downfall to 32-bit that you're missing is insufficient randomness in address space randomization. 2^32 possibilities are currently brute-forceable, but 2^64 possibilities are not (currently) | 17:12 |
| gilbert | ;) so, thats why i don't run any 32-bit systems any more | 17:13 |
| paultag | gilbert: humm, iteresting | 17:15 |
| gilbert | paultag: oh yeah, i became a DM about a month ago too :) whoo! | 17:16 |
| paultag | gilbert: COMGRATS!!!!!!!! | 17:16 |
| paultag | well done! | 17:16 |
| gilbert | thx :) | 17:17 |
| gilbert | and squeeze appears to be releasing today! | 17:17 |
| paultag | gilbert: I saw! (and no rc bugs!) | 17:17 |
| gilbert | well, there are about 25 unfixed, but those are mostly security issues that will be fixed with a DSA soon | 17:18 |
| gilbert | they're tagged squeeze-ignore | 17:18 |
| gilbert | so they don't show up in normal lists | 17:18 |
| paultag | ahh | 17:18 |
| gilbert | so, what have u been up to lately? | 17:18 |
| paultag | gilbert: just the usual. working away on school, it's been a crazy semester | 17:19 |
| paultag | gilbert: looking to start moving up to debian, so doing that soon. I'm going to adopt a few packages | 17:19 |
| gilbert | i'm going to apply to DD pretty soon here. i have a bunch of new packages to get sponsored as soon as wheezy is open for uploads | 17:20 |
| paultag | nice! :) | 17:20 |
| paultag | i need to bug more DDs more often | 17:21 |
| gilbert | heh, soon u can bug me ;) | 17:21 |
| paultag | :) | 17:21 |
| gilbert | how's loco council stuff? | 17:23 |
| paultag | gilbert: busy as all hell. Our big issue is that loco members don't need to sign the CoC, so they can "act out" without violating anything | 17:23 |
| paultag | gilbert: so we get tons of kickback with tons of personal assults | 17:24 |
| paultag | gilbert: kinda sucks, but it's OK. we're doing good work | 17:24 |
| gilbert | paultag: ah, so would it be too much of barrier if coc signing were a req to join a loco? | 17:24 |
| paultag | gilbert: we tried to insist on it, at least for the contact -- but then people bitched either because the CoC is not translated, or the contact is the not the administrator | 17:25 |
| gilbert | paultag: most of ohio's members seem to be very well-behaved regardless of the coc | 17:25 |
| paultag | gilbert: +10000 | 17:25 |
| paultag | gilbert: we have an amazing loco | 17:26 |
| gilbert | paultag: for ohio the council ml is the contact now, so its not a real person | 17:26 |
| paultag | gilbert: aye, that's fine. We just consider it a meta-person | 17:26 |
| paultag | just like other places where they give contact@ubuntu-xx.org to the contact | 17:27 |
| gilbert | the council arrangement seems to be working out pretty well so far | 17:28 |
| paultag | gilbert: totally. y'all rule | 17:28 |
| gilbert | nice to have ppl to back you up | 17:28 |
| paultag | gilbert: for sure, for sure. Ya'll are doing a fantastic job | 17:28 |
| gilbert | so, wouldn't the solution be to translate the coc? | 17:29 |
| gilbert | if thats what ppl r complaining about | 17:29 |
| paultag | gilbert: yes, and we're working on it, but we have to get very good translators to translate it in a way that carrys the same meaning | 17:30 |
| paultag | e.g. klingon has no word for love, so translating a document about how you should love someone has no meaning in klingon | 17:30 |
| paultag | k'plah | 17:31 |
| gilbert | haha | 17:32 |
| paultag | :) | 17:32 |
| paultag | but yeah | 17:32 |
| gilbert | didn't know there was a loco in the klingon federation | 17:32 |
| paultag | gilbert: ubuntu-kl | 17:33 |
| gilbert | paultag: seriously? | 17:33 |
| paultag | gilbert: nope :) | 17:33 |
| gilbert | oh, haha | 17:33 |
| paultag | haha | 17:33 |
| gilbert | wouldn't suprise me if there was one tho | 17:33 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah, so we're working on getting the CoC and LCoC set up for locos | 17:33 |
| gilbert | paultag: cool | 17:34 |
| paultag | gilbert: we'd really like to see leaders / contacts sign the LCoC, but there's a lot of push back | 17:34 |
| paultag | gilbert: e.g. if you give members roles, such as handling swag, or doing server work, should they sign as well? | 17:34 |
| paultag | and if so, then there is a huge technical cost to contributing | 17:35 |
| paultag | which disincentivizes the whole gig | 17:35 |
| gilbert | why does the lcoc need to differ from the coc? | 17:35 |
| paultag | gilbert: not sure. not my call. | 17:36 |
| paultag | gilbert: the LCoC is for leadership -- just says set a good example and step down with grace etc | 17:36 |
| gilbert | y not, ur "the man" on the council | 17:36 |
| gilbert | paultag: isn't that in the coc? | 17:36 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah, for sure, but the LCoC is mark's call | 17:36 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah, it's really fuzzy. Let me find both texts | 17:36 |
| gilbert | paultag: thats what annoys me about the ubuntu community, its not a meritocracy when one person can say this is it | 17:37 |
| paultag | gilbert: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct | 17:37 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah I know | 17:37 |
| paultag | gilbert: I'm considering a move to debian fulltime. | 17:38 |
| paultag | not like I'd drop Ubuntu | 17:38 |
| paultag | but I'd swap time-investments | 17:38 |
| gilbert | it really seems like they can be merged | 17:39 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah, there was talk of that, but they're these big blobby documents that are locked in | 17:39 |
| gilbert | conflicts of interest would be applicable to anyone | 17:39 |
| paultag | gilbert: if we change the CoC, we need to have everyone re-sign it | 17:39 |
| gilbert | credit would be applicable to everyone as well | 17:39 |
| gilbert | delegating | 17:39 |
| gilbert | all of it pretty much | 17:39 |
| paultag | gilbert: I agree | 17:39 |
| gilbert | paultag: the coc resigning has already been done before, right | 17:41 |
| gilbert | 1.0 to 1.1 or something | 17:41 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah, but we had way fewer ubutnu members | 17:41 |
| paultag | gilbert: there were like 200-300 | 17:41 |
| gilbert | btw coc is probably the worst acronym ever | 17:41 |
| paultag | aye | 17:42 |
| paultag | gilbert: we now have 662 ubuntu members | 17:42 |
| gilbert | doesn't seem that bad when a dictor can say this needs to be done | 17:43 |
| gilbert | dictator | 17:43 |
| paultag | gilbert: truth | 17:43 |
| paultag | gilbert: file a bug against ubuntu-community, I'll get it handled | 17:43 |
| gilbert | oh how i loath launchpad | 17:44 |
| paultag | gilbert: yeah yeah. | 17:45 |
| paultag | ;) | 17:45 |
| Unit193 | Any Doctor Who fans? http://artoftrolling.memebase.com/2011/02/01/drag-troll-who-would-fall-for-this/ | 21:36 |
| canthus13 | Unit193: nice... :) | 21:38 |
| Cheri703 | I hate it when there's a web page I saw a few weeks ago and now I can't find it, either in my history or google -_- | 23:05 |
| canthus13 | Cheri703: How's teh job scene going? | 23:53 |
| Cheri703 | eh | 23:54 |
| Cheri703 | I've been dealing with sick dog stuff | 23:55 |
| Cheri703 | I'm in ny at my parents' house and my 12 yr old dog that lived with them had to get put down yesterday morning and I had to put down my 3.5 yr old dog that had cancer today...my dad buried them | 23:56 |
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