[00:03] <Sysi> natty will have nice new xfce
[00:36] <aRiEz> how to bypass sudo password?
[00:36] <aRiEz> Ex: x@x-comp:~$ sudo apt-get install bsdgames
[00:36] <aRiEz> Ex: [sudo] Password for x:
[00:37] <charlie-tca> ask the person with it for the password
[09:42] <knome> any ideas for a non-working trackpad. running 10.10 with acer aspire 3100.
[10:00] <Sysi> not at all? check from lspci what model
[10:04] <knome> not at all. errr, what should i look for in lspci?
[10:04] <knome> the touchpad is detected (i see it from xinput)
[10:09] <Sysi> is it synaptics?
[10:09] <knome> yes
[10:09] <knome> "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
[10:10] <Sysi> rebooted, installed updates?
[10:10] <knome> gpointing-device-settings shows it, and allows me to change the settings, but nothing happens when i try to move the cursor with the touchpad
[10:10] <knome> did that a few times, but i could try it again
[10:10] <knome> just weird that it doesn't work since it's detected apparently correctly..
[10:11] <Sysi> i wonder how it behaves if it's taken out of use in bios
[10:11] <knome> i checked bios, but there was nothing about it
[10:12] <knome> could recheck that as well
[10:12] <knome> but there was very very little stuff in bios altogether...
[10:14] <quantumbit> does your trackpad work?
[10:14] <quantumbit> does it work with another OS?
[10:14] <knome> yup.
[10:14] <quantumbit> ok
[10:15] <quantumbit> then BIOS should be fine
[10:15] <knome> yes, i figured that out, but since i'm out of ideas...
[10:16] <quantumbit> have you tried googling your laptop model+trackpad+ubuntu
[10:16] <knome> yes.
[10:16] <knome> no help there..
[10:16] <Sysi> you could try to switch driver
[10:16] <Sysi> synaptics/evdev
[10:16] <knome> just some guy having problems with tapping not working - but nothing is working for me
[10:16] <knome> Sysi, that would mean touching Xorg.conf, right? :P
[10:17] <Sysi> yup
[10:17] <knome> there's nothing about touchpad in bios
[10:17] <knome> or trackpad, or whatever you like to call it
[10:18] <quantumbit> don't trackpad usually appear just like a ps/2 pointer or something?
[10:19] <knome> no idea :)
[10:19] <quantumbit> did it work through the installation process?
[10:19] <Sysi> it maybe could be something going wrong with udev/hal
[10:19] <Sysi> but idk how to check that
[10:20] <knome> quantumbit, i had to install with alternative, so there was no mouse
[10:21] <quantumbit> ah
[10:21] <quantumbit> that may be related
[10:21] <knome> xev doesn't detect any movement/cliks.
[10:22] <quantumbit> hm.. how about xorgconfig or whatever it's called
[10:23] <knome> errrrm
[10:23] <knome> fn+f7
[10:23]  * knome blushes
[10:23] <quantumbit> ?
[10:23] <knome> that enabled the touchpad.
[10:24] <quantumbit> heh
[10:24] <knome> was apparently turned off hw-wise
[10:24] <quantumbit> hah
[10:25] <Sysi> isn't it great when things work actually too well
[10:26] <knome> yup.
[10:26] <knome> have to say the laptop is quite unintuitive
[10:28] <quantumbit> you're lucky those key combos work :P
[10:28] <quantumbit> have an old laptop that i couldnt get these to work on in linux
[10:29] <quantumbit> for sound level, screen brightness etc..
[10:29] <quantumbit> then, I wonder what use can be a key-combo to disable the trackpad :P
[10:30] <knome> heh
[10:30] <knome> i'm lucky that this laptop isn't mine.. :P
[10:31] <quantumbit> is it one of these netbooks?
[10:32] <knome> nope
[10:32] <knome> 15"
[15:05] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: just installed xfce4.8 by ppa:koshi/xfce-4.8 on xubuntu but still its xfce 4.6 anybody can help?
[15:05] <charlie-tca> I would suggest contacting the individual that created the ppa. It is not an official ppa
[15:06] <thauriswulfa> k
[16:00] <knome> charlie-tca, what about adding a news entry in xubuntu.org telling that the 4.8 ppa's are not official
[16:01] <knome> bbl.
[16:01] <charlie-tca> good idea. I will get something in there
[16:01] <knome> nice.
[16:15] <Darius_Xubuntu> hello guys i need help with resolution after installing xubuntu desktop 4.8.1 now im stuck on 1024.768 how to adjust it more than that like 1280.1024?
[16:16] <Darius_Xubuntu> display manager allows only 1024.768
[16:16] <charlie-tca> So, are you using Natty?
[16:16] <Darius_Xubuntu> yes
[16:17] <Darius_Xubuntu> any ideas?
[16:17] <charlie-tca> It may be a limitation of the video driver for a while. hardware drivers are not yet compatible with Xserver 1.10
[16:18] <charlie-tca> More help with Natty might be available in #ubuntu+1, since they all run it
[16:18] <Darius_Xubuntu> well before on 4.6 it worked very good
[16:18] <Darius_Xubuntu> ok ill try
[16:18] <charlie-tca> and it did not use Xserver 1.10
[16:19] <Darius_Xubuntu> btw howto check wich version i have on my sistem?
[16:19] <Darius_Xubuntu> i mean xserver?
[16:22] <Darius_Xubuntu> charlie-tca im sorry im not using natty :)
[16:25] <Darius_Xubuntu> so any ideas on how fix this?
[16:31] <Darius_Xubuntu> so no ideas on that?
[16:38] <charlie-tca> not if it is not natty. You might have to ask wherever you got 4.8 to put on it
[16:38] <charlie-tca> It is not officially supported, either
[16:42] <Darius_Xubuntu> thank you.
[16:52] <Matty75> hello... i have a question re: broadcom b43xx driver in xubuntu Lucid
[16:53] <Matty75> i am trying to install it on a computer that has no other internet access
[16:54] <Matty75> i am trying to follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:54] <Matty75> these instructions refer to a file on the install media called b43-fwcutter... but it isn't included on the xubuntu install
[16:54] <Matty75> any thoughts?
[16:55] <Matty75> hello?
[16:55] <charlie-tca> !find b43-fwcutter
[16:56] <Matty75> where did u find it?
[16:56] <charlie-tca> !info b43-fwcutter
[16:57] <charlie-tca> +looks like you can install it using sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[16:57] <Matty75> but the machiune has no other inet access
[16:58] <Matty75> so apt cant get the package or depends
[16:58] <charlie-tca> hm, downĺoad to another machine and transfer using either cd or usb
[16:58] <Matty75> any depends?
[17:00] <charlie-tca> nope
[17:00] <Matty75> thanks charlie-tca... i'll give it a try
[17:03] <Matty75> the website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx also refers to a pkg called "patch"... should i try to dl that as well?
[17:09] <charlie-tca> if you can't see it with apt-cache policy patch, yes
[17:11] <Matty75> ok, thanks
[17:11] <charlie-tca> You´re welcome. Good luck...
[17:24] <Dwarf2000> Hello
[17:25] <Dwarf2000> I have a question regarding Xubuntu
[17:25] <mark76> Hmm?
[17:25] <charlie-tca> !question
[17:25] <Dwarf2000> Why is it that version 10.10 is supported untill 2012 and 10.04 till 2013?
[17:26] <mark76> Because 10.04 is an LTS
[17:26] <mark76> Long Term Support release
[17:26] <Dwarf2000> I figured, but it does not make that much sence.
[17:26] <Dwarf2000> What if an newer version is released by that time, wouldn't it be better to use that one instead of 10.04?
[17:27] <charlie-tca> Those who run businesses and servers would prefer not to use the latest thing
[17:27] <mark76> Ask charlie
[17:28] <charlie-tca> Sometimes latest does not mean most stable, fewer bugs, less crashes...
[17:28] <Dwarf2000> I was thinking they would have removed bugs and such before releasing.
[17:28] <charlie-tca> and we would not have any new ones, either?
[17:29] <Dwarf2000> Pardon?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> what about any new bugs introduced by version upgrades?
[17:30] <Dwarf2000> You would think they have some kind of beta testing team or something
[17:30] <charlie-tca> fixing bugs we know about does happen, but that does not mean there will not be completely new issues.
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Testing team will never have all the hardware out there, nor will they know every application you use
[17:31] <Dwarf2000> True
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Then the chances of them catching every bug is much lower, is it not?
[17:31] <Dwarf2000> Indeed
[17:32] <charlie-tca> There are thousands of applictions. There will be bugs.
[17:32] <Dwarf2000> Something can never be perfect.
[17:32] <Dwarf2000> Too bad.
[17:32] <charlie-tca> correct, but those who need stable software are not interested in being the first to report the bugs
[17:33] <Dwarf2000> Indeed
[17:33] <charlie-tca> they will use the LTS versions, and upgrade every two to three years instead of every six months
[17:33] <Dwarf2000> So, what would you advice me? 10.10 or 1.04, I will be using the computer not that often
[17:36] <Dwarf2000> 10.10 download will be finished within 4 minutes
[17:36] <charlie-tca> 10.10 is good
[17:37] <Dwarf2000> I am running 10.10 on my other desktop(updated from 10.04) and I have not run into any problems so far
[17:38] <Dwarf2000> However, this desktop has 512mb ram, therefore I chose xubuntu
[17:42] <Matty75> ok... so... wierd things afoot... now my desktop is gone
[17:42] <Dwarf2000> What version are you using Matty?
[17:42] <Matty75> lucid
[17:43] <Matty75> i just tried a procedure to get my bcom wireless card working and when i rebooted... wierdness
[17:43] <Matty75> the computer boots to xdm or gdm or whatever and i can enter my pw
[17:44] <Matty75> then it goes to a desktop that is just the wallpaper and the program orage is running
[17:44] <mark76> No menu?
[17:44] <Matty75> i can alt-f2 and enter commands, but the environment is gone
[17:44] <Matty75> nope... no panels either
[17:44] <mark76> Weird
[17:44] <Matty75> yup
[17:45] <Matty75> is there a command i can enter in a terminal to start up the desktop?
[17:45] <Matty75> i can get xterm running from alt-f2
[17:47] <mark76> Have you tried xfce4-panel?
[17:48] <Matty75> ok... i got a panel...
[17:48] <mark76> What's on it?
[17:49] <Matty75> mouse menue... running programs (xterm)... sys tray... etc...
[17:49] <mark76> Excellent
[17:49] <Matty75> i also have an icon that looks like a gear that says "a package manager is working" when i hover over it
[17:49] <mark76> Did you start it from the terminal?
[17:49] <Matty75> yes... from xterm
[17:49] <mark76> Close xterm
[17:50] <Matty75> panel is gone
[17:50] <mark76> Can you run commands without xterm?
[17:50] <Matty75> yes... if i alt-f2
[17:50] <mark76> Okay. alt-f2 and then run xfce4-panel directly
[17:50] <Matty75> did that... panel is back
[17:51] <mark76> Is there a shutdown icon on the panel?
[17:51] <Matty75> little green running man?
[17:51] <mark76> Yes
[17:51] <Matty75> yes
[17:51] <mark76> Click on that and tick "remember last session"
[17:52] <Matty75> the only option is... "Exit Xfce Panel?"
[17:52] <Matty75> then cancel or quit
[17:52] <mark76> Ah
[17:52] <mark76> Sounds like xfce4 session isn't running
[17:52] <mark76> Or Xubuntu session
[17:52] <Matty75> i logged in in xfce mode... not xubuntu...
[17:53] <mark76> Try logging in in Xubuntu mode
[17:53] <Matty75> k...
[17:54] <Matty75> same thing... orage preferences is open and orage is running... but nothing else
[17:54] <Matty75> no session manager, i guess
[17:55] <mark76> How did you do that without logging out of irc? :/
[17:55] <Matty75> different computer LOL
[17:55] <mark76> Ah
[17:55] <Dwarf2000> That easy :p
[17:55] <mark76> I have to go eat dinner
[17:55] <mark76> BBL
[17:56] <charlie-tca> Matty75: to run the panels and keep them, use Alt+F2, xfce4-panel &
[17:56] <charlie-tca> the & on the end means keep it running when the terminal run app closes
[18:00] <Matty75> charlie... i think when i rebooted after installing the bcom drivers, i must have checked the "save for future sessions" box and it got confused...
[18:01] <Matty75> i logged out and back in and my panels are here and i have been able to log into my wireless network!!
[18:01] <charlie-tca> good job
[18:02] <Matty75> i am now running update manager and installing 296 updates
[18:02] <charlie-tca> 10.04?
[18:02] <Matty75> now... on to tackling my nvidia geforce card...
[18:02] <Matty75> yes... 10.04
[18:02] <charlie-tca> let those finish first now
[18:02] <Matty75> of course
[18:03] <charlie-tca> We are building a new cd for 10.04.2, so you won't have to do so many updates
[18:03] <charlie-tca> That should be out in about two weeks
[18:04] <Matty75> i had a full install of ubuntu maverick running on that machine but it was soooo slow i decided to try xubuntu instead
[18:04] <charlie-tca> yeah, xubuntu should be about 30% lighter on resources
[18:05] <Matty75> but i read that there was no support for nvidia-173 on old cards in the new versionof xorg in maverick so i went to lucid
[18:06] <charlie-tca> !info nvidia-173
[18:06] <charlie-tca> it's back now, after all the updates get in
[18:07] <Matty75> oh... well i am ok with having the lts release on that machine :)
[18:07] <Matty75> gotta run... my 5 month old is hungry :)
[18:07] <charlie-tca> have fun
[18:07] <Matty75> thanks for ur help
[18:07] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:08] <Dwarf2000> so, charlie
[18:08] <Dwarf2000> you are an xubuntu developer?
[18:09] <charlie-tca> no, I am the Xubuntu Project Lead
[18:09] <Dwarf2000> I feel honored ^^
[18:10] <charlie-tca> There are many of us here, we just try to help out when we can
[18:12] <Dwarf2000> You will never see bill gates give support for windows.
[18:12] <Dwarf2000> That's why I like in linux :)
[18:15] <Dwarf2000> I'm off for diner.
[18:15] <Dwarf2000> Bye
[18:19] <aitiba> hi
[18:19] <aitiba> which are the minimal requeriments to use the last stable version of xubuntu?
[18:21] <charlie-tca> absolute minimum for 10.10?
[18:22] <charlie-tca> 256MB ram, run one app at time, slowly. PII or PIII processor at 400MHz, run slowly
[18:23] <aitiba> charlie-tca, whic a p3 1000Mhz with 256 MB RAM?
[18:24] <aitiba> now is using lubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 correctly
[18:24] <aitiba> I can open 2-e windows at the same time
[18:27] <charlie-tca> 256MB ram will run slow, 10.10 or 10.04
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Lubuntu does use about 30% fewer resources than Xubuntu, so with 256MB, it might be better
[18:29] <aitiba> charlie-tca, so xubuntu needs more requeriments to run?
[18:29] <charlie-tca> yes
[18:30] <charlie-tca> Not much more, but, Lubuntu will will run with less ram that Xubuntu
[18:30] <xGrind> and with 512MB ?
[18:31] <xGrind> ;]
[18:31] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu needs 512MB ram to give good performance
[18:31] <aitiba> charlie-tca, so i'm goind to try with puppy linux
[18:31] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:31] <xGrind> my hardware
[18:32] <xGrind> athlon xp 2200+ , 512MB + 128MB
[18:32] <charlie-tca> That should work very well
[18:32] <xGrind> motherboard pc chips m810dlu
[18:33] <aitiba> my problem is the ram
[18:33] <charlie-tca> aitiba: yes, agreed. It will work, but will be slow
[18:33] <charlie-tca> heh, faster than my 400MHz with 256MB ram, though
[18:33] <xGrind> aitiba; replace xfwm4 to openbox
[18:34] <aitiba> i need a normal experience
[18:34] <aitiba> why have a pc that goes slow?
[18:34] <charlie-tca> because it happens to be what you have?
[18:35] <aitiba> but why go slow if I can use the pc with lubntu that use openbox
[18:36] <Dwarf2000> Let's see if I can install Xubuntu :D
[18:36] <xGrind> xubuntu \o/
[18:37] <xGrind> charlie-tca; xubuntu 11.04 is more ligth?
[18:37] <charlie-tca> not yet
[18:38] <charlie-tca> it is the development version, first we get it to work, then we worry about trying to lighten up
[18:38] <xGrind> ;]
[18:39] <Dwarf2000> There is an 11.04? :o
[18:39] <Dwarf2000> Talking about bleeding edge.
[18:39] <charlie-tca> Not yet. The next release will be 11.04, but it is known as Natty Narwhal right now
[18:40] <charlie-tca> It does have Xfce 4.8 in it, though
[18:41] <Dwarf2000> It looks to me.
[18:41] <Dwarf2000> That the names are made with an online nickname generator ^^
[18:41] <Dwarf2000> Like, random thing + animal
[18:41] <charlie-tca> nope
[18:42] <xGrind> kk
[18:42] <Dwarf2000> You have lots of fantasy then ^^
[18:42] <charlie-tca> The names are personally selected by Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of Ubuntu and it's parent company, Canonical
[18:43] <charlie-tca> You are correct, though. They really are "adjective" +  animal
[18:43] <Dwarf2000> :) My dad just said that Canonical sounds like the Chronicals of Narnia
[18:44] <charlie-tca> heh
[18:44] <xGrind> ;]
[18:46] <Dwarf2000> Xubuntu has an awesome logo.
[18:46] <Dwarf2000> What animal is that?
[18:50] <charlie-tca> mouse
[18:53] <aitiba> charlie-tca, thanks
[18:53] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:36] <Dwarf2000> Guys
[19:36] <Dwarf2000> I would just like to say
[19:36] <Dwarf2000> That I might like xubuntu over the normal ubuntu ._.
[19:41] <brot> Dwarf2000: i do too :)
[19:41] <Dwarf2000> It looks way better :)
[19:59] <Dwarf2000> Ohdear.
[20:00] <Dwarf2000> There we go.
[20:00] <Dwarf2000> I selected an theme, from the control center'ish program
[20:00] <Dwarf2000> Now it logged me out
[20:00] <Dwarf2000> Whenever I try to log in it goes to black screen with blinking _
[20:00] <Dwarf2000> then goes to login screeen
[20:00] <Dwarf2000> What to do?
[20:00] <charlie-tca> Ctrl+Alt+F2
[20:00] <charlie-tca> login
[20:01] <charlie-tca> cd .cache
[20:01] <charlie-tca> delete it with rm -r ~/.cache/*
[20:01] <Dwarf2000> happens more often?
[20:02] <charlie-tca> then go cd ~/.config
[20:03] <Dwarf2000> Yes
[20:03] <charlie-tca> delete the session settings using    rm -r ~/.config/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[20:04] <charlie-tca> then never select wildbrush or wild* themes again
[20:05] <Dwarf2000> no such file or directory...
[20:05] <charlie-tca> it's fixed in 4.8, by the way. It took the developers a long time to figure out what went wrong
[20:06] <charlie-tca> which one ?
[20:06] <Dwarf2000> rm -r ~/.config/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[20:07] <charlie-tca> that's because something.
[20:07] <charlie-tca> delete the session settings using    rm -r ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml
[20:07] <charlie-tca> try that one
[20:08] <charlie-tca> now you restart; ctrl+alt+del works at this screen, without saving anything we don't want
[20:09] <Dwarf2000> Rebooting...
[20:10] <Dwarf2000> worked :D
[20:11] <charlie-tca> and never select that wild* theme again, right?
[20:11] <Dwarf2000> Any way to update to 4.8 from within 10.10?
[20:11] <Dwarf2000> Yessir
[20:11] <charlie-tca> not officially
[20:11] <charlie-tca> If you do, we can't support it
[20:11] <Dwarf2000> Or I'll just not select that theme :)
[20:11] <Dwarf2000> Why is it in there if it does that, anyway?
[20:12] <charlie-tca> It took the developers a very long time to find why it does that. It was a difficult bug for them to reproduce, for some reason.
[20:15] <charlie-tca> oh, and because of the way Xfce is built, it is not trivial to remove from themes
[20:16] <Dwarf2000> Okay
[20:16] <Dwarf2000> How does one edit the menu?
[20:18] <Dwarf2000> Also, do you take suggestions?
[20:19] <Dwarf2000> Because it looks to me that if you select an screensaver that is not installed and press preview, and error is thrown.
[20:19] <charlie-tca> no editor
[20:20] <charlie-tca> yes, we take suggestions
[20:25] <Dwarf2000> Well, the above about the screensaver. Perhaps disable the preview button if the screensaver is not installed.
[20:26] <charlie-tca> That's a good suggestion
[20:26] <Dwarf2000> Because else it'll display an error
[20:26] <Dwarf2000> Let's see if I can get VLC :D
[21:18] <dwarf2000> Well
[21:18] <dwarf2000> Back again, this time on Xubuntu D:
[21:18] <dwarf2000> However, I got no sound.
[21:19] <Sysi> worked on ubuntu?
[21:27] <dwarf2000> I have not tried ubuntu on this system
[21:27] <dwarf2000> I am running xubuntu as I only have 512mb ram
[21:28] <Sysi> check everything unmuted, if you have possibility of two soundcards, install pavucontrol
[21:30] <dwarf2000> As in...
[21:30] <dwarf2000> "select controls" then select all, then check if any muted?
[21:31] <Sysi> yup
[21:31] <dwarf2000> worked :D
[21:31] <Sysi> :)
[21:31] <dwarf2000> Thanks a bunch
[21:32] <dwarf2000> Now to see which is the one I am using :D
[21:34] <dwarf2000> Oh it's an whole bunch of them.
[21:55] <wizardslovak> hello people
[21:55] <wizardslovak> i disabled wireless and now i cant enable it
[21:55] <wizardslovak> nowhere to click
[21:55] <wizardslovak> any command?
[21:56] <Sysi> should be able to do it from same place you took it off
[21:56] <Sysi> enable networking and then wireless
[21:57] <wizardslovak> ya but i dont have icon in taskbar
[21:57] <quantumbit> hm
[21:58] <quantumbit> it's weird :P
[22:02] <Sysi> ..ran? alt+f2 'nm-applet'
[22:14] <wizardslovak> yeap
[22:14] <wizardslovak> its enablerd but i dont see any icon
[22:15] <wizardslovak> s noone
[22:15] <wizardslovak> no command for it?
[22:19] <Sysi> nm-applet
[23:11] <lolcat> how do I open the network settings?
[23:13] <dwarf2000> I believe there is no GUI for that
[23:14] <lolcat> so I can't connect to networks?
[23:14] <dwarf2000> But do not believe what I say, I have been using xubuntu for a couple of hours now.
[23:14] <lolcat> ofcourse there is a gui to connect to networks
[23:14] <dwarf2000> In the upper right corner
[23:14] <dwarf2000> Next to the time
[23:14] <lolcat> ir crashed
[23:15] <lolcat> I need to know its name
[23:15] <dwarf2000> One second.
[23:16] <charlie-tca> nm-applet
[23:16] <lolcat> doh, it wont start
[23:16] <dwarf2000> sudo nm-applet?
[23:18] <charlie-tca> looking
[23:18] <dwarf2000> If you run it in an terminal, does it give an error?
[23:19] <lolcat> debug old state indicates that this was not a disonnect 0
[23:21] <charlie-tca> should be network-manager-applet
[23:21] <charlie-tca> Alt+F2, network-manager-applet
[23:23] <lolcat> dont have it
[23:24] <charlie-tca> !info network-manager-applet
[23:24] <dwarf2000> Auch.
[23:24] <charlie-tca> !find network-manager-applet
[23:24] <charlie-tca> heh
[23:24] <charlie-tca> remove and reinstall network-manager
[23:25] <lolcat> without internet?
[23:25] <lolcat> yeah, that'll work
[23:25] <charlie-tca> well, that makes it harder, huh?
[23:25] <dwarf2000> xD
[23:25] <lolcat> yep, if I remove it it is gone
[23:25] <lolcat> all i need is to connect eth0
[23:25] <dwarf2000> Wait
[23:26] <dwarf2000> You cannot connect to eth0?
[23:26] <dwarf2000> How is that even possible :/
[23:26] <charlie-tca> lolcat: do you have the network applet in the top panel?
[23:26] <lolcat> Nope, but i rebooted internet now
[23:26] <lolcat> err
[23:26] <lolcat> the compuer
[23:27] <lolcat> now I have internet but no applet
[23:27] <dwarf2000> Thus, sudo apt-get install network-manager
[23:27] <charlie-tca> why do you need the applet if you have a connection? It is only needed with wireless
[23:28] <lolcat> Encrypted wired network
[23:29] <lolcat> but I guess I could do without
[23:30] <charlie-tca> try re-installing network-manager, maybe. I personally stay away from the applet, so I don't really know.
[23:30] <lolcat> guess I will try without, this is just my backup pc
[23:38] <Freeway92> nabend
[23:45] <dwarf2000> Nabend
[23:46] <Freeway92> mag mir jemand bei einem Problem helfen?
[23:46] <charlie-tca> english, please
[23:46] <Freeway92> ups sry
[23:46] <dwarf2000> Mein deutsch sind nicht so gut ^^
[23:46] <charlie-tca> !de
[23:47] <charlie-tca> they can help with xubuntu also, in #ubuntu-de
[23:47] <Freeway92> i have a lenovo b560, and since a few days the driver is load but not in use
[23:47] <charlie-tca> video driver?
[23:47] <Freeway92> *wlan
[23:48] <charlie-tca> I don't know wireless enough. Maybe if no one else can help, try #ubuntu-beginners
[23:52] <TchnQ> hi guys
[23:53] <charlie-tca> !hi | TchnQ
[23:54] <TchnQ> can't find the answer in internet...installed 2day xubuntu 10.10, it updated, and then my splashscreen died...
[23:55] <charlie-tca> so, you don't get the pretty screen when booting, or you can not log in , or ??
[23:55] <TchnQ> don't get the pretty screen xD
[23:55] <charlie-tca> Did you install an nvidia driver?
[23:55] <TchnQ> i fixed timeout of it....downloaded another splashscreen....nothing.....installed plymouth manager - nothing.....just a sign when loading "UBUNTU 10.10" and four dots )
[23:55] <TchnQ> yep
[23:56] <charlie-tca> Can't have both
[23:56] <charlie-tca> either get a pretty splash screen or use nvidia hardware driver
[23:56] <charlie-tca> They are not compatible with each other
[23:57] <TchnQ> ohhh...
[23:57] <TchnQ> I thought about that....but not so "pro" in linux....
[23:57] <TchnQ> thanks man)
[23:57] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[23:59] <TchnQ> what about v86 package?
[23:59] <TchnQ> v86d *