[00:22] <rtdos> i'm trying to install lotus symphony but it's only available in the 32bit i386 version and i'm using the 64 bit version of kubuntu. how can i force the installation to go through (i already have it downloaded)?
[00:43] <iulian_> rtdos: sudo dpkg -i - -force-architecture yourpackagename
[01:19] <cpatrick08> nevermind it got done
[01:20] <rubenmera> hello
[01:33] <FloridaGuy> kubuntu is missing something...the gtk-qt-engine...kubuntu has kde-config-gtk....thats a peace of crap...its not allowing gtk apps to use the kde themeing
[01:33] <rtdos> thanks iulian_
[01:40] <FloridaGuy> anyone here
[01:43] <insmod> is there a way to set browser id in rekonq?
[01:43] <insmod> i need it for a web page - last year i used opera but this year it doesn't work with opera
[01:45] <Daskreech> browser iddoes't allow ID changes?
[01:46] <insmod> darkree: how do i do that
[01:47] <Daskreech> insmod: bleah I mean Opera doens't do Browser ID changes
[01:48] <insmod> darkree: it does but this year the page isn't allowing some functions
[01:50] <Daskreech> ah hmm
[01:50] <Daskreech> I dont think that Rekonq allows but konqueror does
[01:51] <insmod> ok
[02:12] <insmod> darkree: doesn't work becouse it doesn't allow to specify https://
[02:55] <YankeesFan> FUCK LINUX
[02:56] <YankeesFan> !ops
[02:59] <insmod> darkree: gotit working thatnks
[02:59] <valorie> good grief
[03:00] <gpc> claydoh: you banned yofel
[03:00] <gpc> I don't think that is what you meant
[03:00] <valorie> indeed
[03:01] <valorie> but that was odd -- do particular words trigger the !ops signal?
[03:01] <gpc> no the troll triggered it himself
[03:01] <gpc> by issuing !ops
[03:01] <valorie> what a strange person
[03:01] <valorie> but pretty much what I would expect from a Yankees fan
[03:01] <valorie> lol
[03:02] <valorie> still, yofel is a good guy, and innocent in this case?
[03:02] <m4v> tab fail i guess
[03:02] <gpc> yeah
[03:02] <valorie> I wonder if he was trying to get a list of ops
[03:03] <valorie> or test the ops' presence
[03:03] <rww> I suspect he discovered from #ubuntu that calling that factoid pings a lot of people, and felt like being annoying.
[03:03] <gpc> he did the same thing a few minutes ago in #ubuntu also
[03:03] <valorie> oh, grand
[03:03] <m4v> nah, the trigger is noisy and that's what trolls like to do
[03:15] <donjr> I am trying to get my wireless working.  I have the broadcom 4311.  ifconfig shows the wireless there, lspci shows it there, iwconfig shows it there.
[03:15] <donjr> When I try to iwconfig wlan0 essid "homeid"   I get an error, set failed on device wlan0; Operation not permitted.
[03:16] <donjr> any other thoughts on how I might get the wireless working?
[03:17]  * james147 thinks you need to be root to do that
[03:17] <donjr> Sudo got the essid to show in iwconfig, but still says "Access Point: Not-Associated"
[03:17]  * james147 also think you will have better luck connecting if you stop network-manager first
[03:27] <Webinator> hey has anyone in here used dumphd and give me some help?
[03:35] <Webinator> so has wnyone used dumphd?
[03:40] <Daskreech> Webinator: What's that?
[03:40] <Webinator> it a bluray decryptor to backup your blurays to your hdd
[03:41] <valorie> a KDE app, or what?
[03:41] <valorie> I've never heard of it
[03:41] <Webinator> linux app
[03:42] <Daskreech> Webinator: try in ##linux?
[03:42] <Webinator> i tried but got no answere
[03:48] <Donjr> Okay, working with the broadcom 4311 on a fresh install of kubuntu 10.10  I can now hit the 'scan' button on the connection list and it will show me my home network, but still no net access.
[03:48] <Donjr> Not sure what to try next
[04:05] <Donjr> Okay, so I create a new connection, I scan and find my home network and click okay, now how do I tell it to connect?  It still says "Last Used: Never"
[04:08] <WoAyumi> hello, friends.
[04:08] <WoAyumi> my kubuntu shows nothing, but black screen after installation
[04:08] <WoAyumi> :(
[04:08] <WoAyumi> i have Dell Inspiron 5010
[04:09] <iulian_> Donjr: remove this just klick on network name
[04:12] <WoAyumi> i have just downloaded stable versions of kubuntu 10.10 DVD and CD. after installation, when I'm booting my notebook Dell Inspiron 5010, after logging-in it just shows black screen.
[04:15] <WoAyumi> help me
[04:16] <WoAyumi> ok, I know the answer ^_^
[04:17] <WoAyumi> you need to choose KDE from dropdown menu
[04:30] <Donjr> how do I manually associate an ap with my wireless card please?
[04:37] <kalg> I tried to update KDE to 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10 with backports
[04:37] <kalg> but it gives lot of conflicts
[04:37] <kalg> dependency unresolved for notification-daemon kind of things
[04:37] <kalg> is that normal.. any ideas guys?
[04:38] <areichman> kalg: that wasn't normal when I did it, but I did it on a basically clean install
[04:38] <areichman> how old is your 10.10 install and do you have any previous versions of 4.6 installed?
[04:38] <kalg> so it is safe to go ahead
[04:38] <kalg> no
[04:39] <kalg> I installed it recently and then use kubuntu ppa to update to 4.5~
[04:39] <kalg> then 4.6 came :) actually I should have wait for 4.6
[04:39] <areichman> 10.10 came with 4.5, didn't it?
[04:40] <kalg> yes. I guess so.. but then 4.5.5 is the current release right?
[04:41] <areichman> something like that, yes, but that shouldn't have impacted 4.6 installing...
[04:41] <kalg> aptititude dist-upgrade is the command I used
[04:42] <kalg> it says I need to remove 7 packages and there is a dependecy unresolved
[04:42] <kalg> :(
[04:42] <areichman> dist-upgrade? When I did it I used kpackagekit
[04:43] <kalg> dist-upgrade seems to be safe earlier.. that's why I used it
[04:43] <areichman> Just enabled the repository with 4.6 and searched for updates. It took care of the rest
[04:43] <areichman> I'm not sure. There should be instructions for getting 4.6 on kubuntu news
[04:44] <areichman> kalg: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6
[04:44] <areichman> those are the instructions I followed
[04:44] <kalg> I think kpackagekit won't show all the dependency problems
[04:45] <kalg> it's like using safe-upgrade and just upgrade
[04:45] <kalg> should google more about the difference first
[04:53] <kalg> ok it's about aptitude safe-upgrade and full-upgrade I guess
[04:53] <kalg> full-upgrade tries to upgrade every package while safe-upgrade tries to do a safe job
[04:53] <kalg> wonder what kpackagekit uses
[04:54] <areichman> I don't know but it worked well for me upgrading to 4.6
[04:55] <kalg> then I should work for me too right.. upgrade my confidence :)
[04:55] <kalg> thanks areichman
[04:56] <areichman> no problem. If I'm around let me know if it works
[04:56] <kalg> ok.. I'm going to read a bit more before I do it
[04:56] <kalg> just to improve my confidence :)
[05:08] <DarkriftX> does anyone know of a kde fxp client?
[05:12] <areichman> DarkriftX: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=15343&forumpage=0&PHPSESSID=7dd1ad68138a74c9fda2b435e79cf4c3
[05:12] <areichman> see if that does what you want. It says on the description that it supports fxp
[05:13] <DarkriftX> nice, thanks
[05:13] <DarkriftX> i wasnt finding anything googling "kubuntu fxp" but "kde fxp" seems to have found a few
[05:13] <DarkriftX> guess i was being too specific
[05:14] <areichman> kftpgrabber seems to be a well known program for this sort of thing
[05:15] <DarkriftX> yeah, gonna try it now
[05:15] <areichman> have fun
[05:15] <DarkriftX> thanks
[05:15] <DarkriftX> trying to xfer 2.7g from one hosting plan to another.... would be a long upload if i did it indirectly
[05:23] <Kalidarn> where abouts would i ask for a particular patch to be committed to backports?
[05:23] <Kalidarn> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264076 << namely that one
[05:23] <ecinx> how do i move up a directory
[05:24] <ecinx> and how do I make a new folder?
[05:24] <Kalidarn> i'm sure google can answer those questions
[05:24] <Torch> Kalidarn: just wait for kde 4.6.1
[05:24] <Kalidarn> :( could be ages away Torch
[05:24] <ecinx> Kalidarn:  I'm sure too but that would take  a lot more minutes than  seconds here
[05:25] <Kalidarn> you haven't been specific either ecinx so nobody can help you
[05:25] <Kalidarn> do you mean ind dolphin, nautilus or terminal....
[05:25] <ecinx> term
[05:25] <ecinx> wwhat nautilus?
[05:25] <Kalidarn> then you should stop being lazy
[05:25] <Kalidarn> and google for "make new folder in linux"
[05:25] <Kalidarn> for basic questions like that
[05:26] <ecinx> u can stop being an a-hole
[05:26] <Kalidarn> just because it's easy for someone to answer doesn't mean you shouldn't do ANY research yourself.
[05:26] <ecinx> i have other question that follow , and everything i do in google takes forever
[05:26] <Kalidarn> what's your other question
[05:27] <ecinx> how to write in the root of a drive
[05:27] <ecinx> when i'm in /  is not the drive i want to write too
[05:27] <ecinx> to*
[05:27] <valorie> in general, you can right-click in the gui and choose make new folder
[05:27] <Kalidarn> it needs to be mounted
[05:28] <Kalidarn> so if it's a usb stick
[05:28] <ecinx> valorie: I tried that
[05:28] <valorie> in the console, it's "makedir"
[05:28] <Kalidarn> it will probably be in /media
[05:28] <Kalidarn> it's mkdir
[05:28] <Kalidarn> not makedir
[05:28] <valorie> oops, sorry
[05:28] <ecinx> I can't see  new folder
[05:28] <valorie> I'm lazy and use up-arrow too often
[05:28] <Kalidarn> is it a usb stick?
[05:28] <Kalidarn> what is it your trying to mount
[05:28] <ecinx> in dolphin create new is grayed out
[05:28] <Kalidarn> if your using kde it should automount
[05:29] <Kalidarn> then you do not have privileges
[05:29] <Kalidarn> or directory
[05:30] <ecinx> Kalidarn: not a usb stick, I have a HDD with I don't know how many partitions. but one is for windows, linux, and the biggest one is where I have the /home
[05:30] <Kalidarn> right, well if it's an external disk you want to mount it
[05:30] <ecinx> I want to write in the biggest one
[05:30] <Kalidarn> so make a directory in /mnt
[05:30] <Kalidarn> then use mount /dev/sdXX and then to the mount point
[05:30] <ecinx> it's  just one HDD
[05:30] <Kalidarn> google "how to  mount drive"
[05:31] <Kalidarn> it will explain it a lot easier than anyone in here can
[05:31] <Kalidarn> https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+mount+hard+disk+linux&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
[05:31] <Kalidarn> omg so hard
[05:31] <ecinx> it's mounted
[05:31] <ecinx> it's the sameone /home is on
[05:32] <Kalidarn> then navigate to where it is
[05:32] <Kalidarn> use fdisk -l
[05:32] <Kalidarn> you sure
[05:32] <Kalidarn> rather df -h
[05:32] <Kalidarn> /home is where your users keep their settings and personal data not where disks are mounted unless its mounted elsewhere
[05:33] <Kalidarn> remember each partition needs to be mounted
[05:33] <Kalidarn> one partition doesn't equal the whole disk
[05:33] <ecinx> ok
[05:34] <ecinx> let me go back one step
[05:34] <Kalidarn> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mounting+partitions+linux :)
[05:34] <Kalidarn> im sorry if that sounds rude but you could find a lot more concise information this way
[05:34] <ecinx> on  the left, where it says places it says 63.5 gib
[05:34] <Kalidarn> yer
[05:34] <Kalidarn> that's the complete device block
[05:35] <Kalidarn> not the partition
[05:35] <ecinx> it is a partion
[05:35] <Kalidarn> ah k
[05:35] <ecinx> i only have one HDD  in this laptop
[05:35] <Kalidarn> so it's auto mounted it
[05:35] <Kalidarn> oh okay
[05:35] <ecinx> yes
[05:35] <Kalidarn> so just click on it.
[05:36] <ecinx> i do, and i see two folders: ecinx and .directory
[05:36] <Kalidarn> if everything is greyed out you do not have privs to write there for that user
[05:36] <Kalidarn> yeah so it looks like a /home/ mountpoint with one user
[05:36] <devon> hey guys - i have a question.  don't know protocol - do i just ask away?
[05:36] <Kalidarn> sure just ask
[05:37] <Kalidarn> but if you could google it and find the first 100 pages dedicated to your answer then i'd try that first ;)
[05:37] <ecinx> Kalidarn: what does that mean in laymans
[05:37] <Kalidarn> it means thats where home is
[05:37] <Kalidarn> if you had other users
[05:37] <Kalidarn> they would appear in there
[05:38] <devon> i just installed 10.10 and dont really know what im doing.  I installed in a VM and got the guest add-on packages, but the resolution is only 1024.  I am reading to try "sudo dexconf" to edit the display settings, but when I do that nothing pops up.  No error message - just a return to the prompt in the terminal
[05:38] <ecinx> yeah, i purposely partitioned it that way to separate data with programs
[05:38] <ecinx> when i instaled kubuntu
[05:38] <Kalidarn> devon: using vmware?
[05:38] <devon> VirtualBox
[05:38] <Kalidarn> if you've installed the guest package then you should be able to resize the screen and the resolution should automatically change
[05:38] <Kalidarn> oh, i don't use virtualbox :)
[05:39] <devon> know anything about why dexconf wouldnt come up?
[05:39] <Kalidarn> ecinx: that makes little sense as programs are installed in /usr/share and /usr/local anyway
[05:39] <Kalidarn> that partition will just contain documents, and configuration files
[05:39] <Kalidarn> specific to your user
[05:40] <ecinx> I don't remember what was my real plans.. but I know my docs in windows tends to be really big
[05:40] <ecinx> especially with music and itunes university files
[05:40] <Kalidarn> so its on a seperate partition
[05:41] <Kalidarn> well either way what's the problem with that.
[05:41] <ecinx> don't know
[05:41] <Kalidarn> if you can't write to it from another user it's because you do not have privileges
[05:41] <Kalidarn> thats what it would mean if new folder or whatever is greyed out in dolphin
[05:41] <Kalidarn> if you type pwd in that directory
[05:42] <Kalidarn> i assume it tells you /home/ecinx
[05:42] <ecinx> yes
[05:42] <ecinx> in the term
[05:42] <Kalidarn> and i assume if you do "env |grep HOME="
[05:43] <Kalidarn> it will tell  you /home/ecinx
[05:43] <Kalidarn> or are you logged in as another user
[05:44] <ecinx> HOME=/home/ecinx    خبهبی
[05:45] <ecinx> don't know how that happened , the next line is profilehome= in caps.. my capslock is turning to a differnt langauge
[05:45] <Kalidarn> hmm
[05:45] <Kalidarn> do locale
[05:46] <Kalidarn> "locale"
[05:46] <Kalidarn> should say your languages
[05:46] <Kalidarn> anyway that means your privileges of your home directory look like they've changed
[05:46] <Kalidarn> im surprised it lets you even login properly
[05:46] <Kalidarn> sudo chmod -R u=+r+w+X,g=Xr,o=X ~/
[05:46] <Kalidarn> should correct that.
[05:46] <Kalidarn> as it's the default
[05:47] <Kalidarn> actually should be
[05:48] <Kalidarn> sudo chmod -R u=+r+w+X,go=Xr ~/
[05:48] <Kalidarn> ie read write execute for opening directories for user
[05:48] <Kalidarn> and only read and open directories for group and other
[05:48] <ecinx> Permission denied
[05:48] <Kalidarn> put sudo infront of it
[05:48] <Kalidarn> it will then do it as super user
[05:49] <ecinx> sudo isn't superuser?
[05:49] <Kalidarn> it is
[05:49] <Kalidarn> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sudo
[05:51] <ecinx> don't know why it didnt' work
[05:51] <ecinx> first time that happened
[05:51] <ecinx> ill try a different terminal
[05:51] <Kalidarn> that shouldn't make any difference
[05:51] <Kalidarn> can you now write to ~/
[05:52] <Kalidarn> ie /home/ecinx
[05:52] <Kalidarn> is the same as ~/
[05:52] <Kalidarn> its an abbreviation
[05:52] <ecinx> i was always able to write to that folder in term
[05:52] <Kalidarn> refresh dolphin
[05:53] <ecinx> and any other application
[05:53] <ecinx> but in dolphin it wasn't letting me make a folder
[05:53] <Kalidarn> does it now?
[05:54] <ecinx> i can make  a new folder from home in dolphin
[05:54] <Kalidarn> you should be able to make directories in ~/ with dolphin
[05:54] <Kalidarn> yeah
[05:54] <ecinx> but not in the root of 63.5 gb partition
[05:55] <Kalidarn> did you check the mountpoint allows for that.
[05:55] <Kalidarn> you may need to unmount home
[05:55] <Kalidarn> and make that mount point have user access
[05:55] <Kalidarn> then mount it
[05:55] <Kalidarn> cos it probably says root:root and only write for root
[05:56] <ecinx> yep, it's only root
[05:56] <Kalidarn> change that with chrgrp or chown
[05:56] <ecinx> i was able to do sudo
[05:56] <Kalidarn> yes because that elevates to superuser
[05:56] <Kalidarn> not as user ecinx
[05:56] <Kalidarn> sudo mkdir would work too
[05:56] <Kalidarn> but if you do unmount /home
[05:57] <ecinx> ^^ that's what i did
[05:57] <Kalidarn> i'd sugguest shutting down kde first
[05:57] <Kalidarn> ie by logging out
[05:57] <Kalidarn> then doing control alt F1
[05:57] <Kalidarn> and doing /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:57] <ecinx> ill just stay with the folder i created
[05:57] <Kalidarn> before trying to change the privs of your home dir where .kde will reside
[05:57] <Kalidarn> while kde is running it might cause a problem
[05:58] <Kalidarn> because unmounting /home is going to not allow kde to write anything
[05:58] <ecinx> chmod -R u=+r+w+X,go=Xr ~/
[05:58] <ecinx> do that?
[05:58] <Kalidarn> if you can do it as a user in terminal
[05:58] <ecinx> in the new fonder?
[05:58] <Kalidarn> yeah
[05:58] <Kalidarn> well in the new folder it will be ~/New Folder
[05:58] <Kalidarn> or something like that
[05:59] <Kalidarn> well in the new folder it will be ~/New\ Folder
[06:01] <ecinx> home/sixtyfive$ sudo chmod -R u=+r+w+X,go=Xr /home/sixtyfive
[06:01] <Kalidarn> sixtyfive is in the wrong place if that's supposed to be used by ecinx
[06:02] <Kalidarn> it should be /home/ecinx/sixtyfive
[06:02] <Kalidarn> otherwise i think sixtyfive is another user
[06:02] <Kalidarn> you cannot write to /home/ as a user
[06:02] <ecinx> okay
[06:02] <Kalidarn> you can only write to /home/ecinx if your logged in as ecinx
[06:02] <Kalidarn> unless you've modified the privs
[06:03] <ecinx> I guesss that partition is mounted as /home/
[06:03] <ecinx> and that's why it behaves that wway
[06:06] <kalg> areichman : I did update to 4.6 using apt-get dist-upgrade and it seems to work pretty well. Thanks..
[06:06] <ecinx> I'm planning on getting an SSD drive soon,  Is there any specific way i should configure windows and kubuntu? and is there a particular format in which the drive, partitions should be formatted in?
[06:06] <Kalidarn> thats because /home allows for other users
[06:06] <Kalidarn> yes
[06:06] <Kalidarn> there is
[06:07] <Kalidarn> quite a few specific things you must do
[06:07] <areichman> kalg: I'm glad to hear it. Enjoy the upgrade. There are a lot of nice features in 4.6
[06:07] <Kalidarn> assuming it is a MLC drive
[06:07] <Kalidarn> i run two ssds in my system
[06:07] <Kalidarn> ecinx: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/01/paragon-alignment-tool-increases-disk-performance-and-ssd-longevity/
[06:08] <kalg> areichman: thanks for the support. should take a look at 4.6 feature now :)
[06:08] <Kalidarn> http://www.johnlewis.ie/a-note-about-ssds-and-partition-alignment/
[06:08] <ecinx> this is a laptop
[06:08] <Kalidarn> im not sure if TRIM works across partitions i doubt it would
[06:08] <Kalidarn> so thats why i don't really recommend dual booting with ssd with one ssd
[06:09] <Kalidarn> http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/157
[06:09] <Kalidarn> windows automatically aligns partitions
[06:09] <Kalidarn> when you create them
[06:09] <Kalidarn> well windows 7 does
[06:09] <FloodBotK3> Kalidarn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:09] <Kalidarn> ubuntu doesn't but its fairly easy to make sure they're aligned
[06:09] <ecinx> i have win 7 Pro
[06:10] <Kalidarn> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?54379-Linux-Tips-tweaks-and-alignment&p=472998&viewfull=1#post472998
[06:10] <ecinx> I can run kubuntu on virtualization if need be, but it will have  docked ram and i don't know what other consequences
[06:10] <Kalidarn> also i'd get a disk by either intel or ocz
[06:10] <Kalidarn> there's a tonne of shitty ones out there
[06:11] <Kalidarn> that have crappy garbage collection algorithms
[06:11] <ecinx> ^^ i was going to get kingston but  then i was like nah
[06:11] <Kalidarn> yer kingston are crappy
[06:11] <Kalidarn> least they were in this atomic mpc review i read
[06:11] <ecinx> im waiting for c400 to come out like everyone says in slickdeals
[06:12] <Kalidarn> the sandforce ocz one i have atm is good
[06:12] <Kalidarn> the intel ones have always been pretty good though expensive
[06:12] <Kalidarn> i think cruical might be good too
[06:12] <ecinx> yeah
[06:12] <ecinx> those three.. intel being the most reliable
[06:13] <Kalidarn> i know they specifically ragged on kingston though
[06:13] <Kalidarn> they make good ram
[06:13] <Kalidarn> but they suck ass at making ssds
[06:13] <Kalidarn> http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/827391-Crucial-C400-SSD
[06:14] <Kalidarn> ive found roughly to align partitions
[06:14] <Kalidarn> you need to allow 1MB in between each partition as unpartitioned space
[06:15] <ecinx> I know little about SSDs but read that the longetivity can be an issude
[06:15] <ecinx> so the algorithms can be very important
[06:15] <Kalidarn> http://pastebin.com/sH99FnhZ
[06:15] <Kalidarn> like that
[06:15] <Kalidarn> course if your using shitty windows
[06:16] <Kalidarn> you can't have GPT
[06:16] <Kalidarn> unless your motherboard has EFI
[06:16] <Kalidarn> otherwise windows wont boot
[06:16] <FloodBotK3> Kalidarn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:16] <ecinx> GPT EFI?
[06:16] <Kalidarn> windows can't boot from GPT if it's not an EFI system (so it's okay in a macbook)
[06:16] <Kalidarn> Extensible Firmware Interface, basically the newer better replacement to BIOS
[06:16] <Kalidarn> all macs have it
[06:16] <Kalidarn> and a lot of server boards do
[06:17] <Kalidarn> some consumer boards are coming out with UEFI soon
[06:17] <ecinx> I don't think i have that
[06:17] <Kalidarn> likely you do  not
[06:17] <Kalidarn> anyway with disks over 2TB
[06:17] <Kalidarn> you cannot use MBR you need to use GPT
[06:18] <Kalidarn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[06:18] <Kalidarn> all macs use that now too
[06:18] <ecinx> I have a bios that has more options than a typical notebook but  not EFI
[06:18] <Kalidarn> instead of their old apple partition map
[06:18] <Kalidarn> i expect microsoft will change over to it eventually there must be some problem with windows
[06:18] <Kalidarn> not allowing them to do it for systems that they want to boot off
[06:18] <Kalidarn> that don't have EFI
[06:19] <Kalidarn> because for grub or anything else like freebsd it doesn't have issues with a fully GPT system
[06:19] <Kalidarn> The GPT as of 2010 forms a subset of the UEFI specification.
[06:19] <Kalidarn> microsoft will eventually change
[06:19] <ecinx> i can't wait till windows 8
[06:19] <Kalidarn> they're probably hoping that everyone will be using UEFI then they wont bother having to make windows work with GPT
[06:20] <Kalidarn> with BIOS
[06:20] <Kalidarn> there must be some problem with BIOS and GPT working together on windows
[06:20] <ecinx> more touch screen support
[06:20] <Kalidarn> ive been using windows 7 but i still think kde 4.6 looks better :P
[06:20] <Kalidarn> and is a lot better in terms of productive features
[06:20] <Kalidarn> infact it beats both osx and windows on that
[06:21] <Kalidarn> osx however i think is a lot more stable
[06:21] <ecinx> im in different on how they look
[06:21] <Kalidarn> i mean things like snapping and that
[06:21] <ecinx> i'm on 4.6rc2 oxygen
[06:21] <Kalidarn> are handy
[06:21] <Kalidarn> windos by far is the least productive
[06:21] <Kalidarn> *windows
[06:21] <Kalidarn> it lacks things like expose and multiple desktop support out of the box
[06:21] <Kalidarn> which both kde, gnome and osx have
[06:22] <ecinx> don't know what  expose is
[06:22] <Kalidarn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expos%C3%A9_(Mac_OS_X)
[06:22] <Kalidarn> basically came out with leopard in 2007
[06:22] <Kalidarn> windows 7 just came out with a crummy ring switching alt tab
[06:22] <ecinx> but windows has better touch supoort than the kubuntu i'm using and better tablet support
[06:22] <Kalidarn> which is absolutely useless
[06:22] <Kalidarn> oh for sure that doesn't surprise me
[06:23] <sriramoman> how do i configure kmail to hide email headers so that EMail looks neater
[06:23] <Kalidarn> err it doesn't by default?
[06:23] <Kalidarn> it just shows to, from subject
[06:23] <ecinx> OH, yeah i like expose. I do it by accident .. don't know how to trigger it so i use alt tab
[06:24] <Kalidarn> yer
[06:24] <Kalidarn> and it sucks windows doesn't have it
[06:24] <Kalidarn> as it's actually useful
[06:24] <Kalidarn> and installing things like topdesk isn't the answer cos you don't have it when you move to a computer that doesn't have it installed that and it's not very nice on resources
[06:24] <ecinx> they have windows tab
[06:25] <Kalidarn> yer the ring switcher that's crap
[06:25] <Kalidarn> cos its cascaded
[06:25] <Kalidarn> i just use alt-tab in windows :P
[06:25] <ecinx> i don't like windows shell enhancements by third party, they are resource hogs
[06:25] <Kalidarn> yer and often buggy
[06:25] <ecinx> how do you use xpose in kubuntu?
[06:26] <Kalidarn> yeah its one of the desktop effects
[06:26] <Kalidarn> its called Present Windows
[06:26] <Kalidarn> i rebound my key so im not ure what the default is
[06:27] <Kalidarn> i think its Ctrl+F8
[06:27] <ecinx> oh..  yeah
[06:27] <ecinx> i was talking about something else
[06:28] <ecinx> which puts the windows all over the screen with bigg letters on top of them
[06:28] <Kalidarn> not sure what you mean by that
[06:29] <ecinx> kind of like kpose but instead of all of them horizontally
[06:29] <ecinx> they are all over the screen
[06:29] <Kalidarn> so not alt tab?
[06:30] <ecinx> no
[06:30] <Kalidarn> anyway i must go now
[06:30] <ecinx> okay thank you very much
[07:21] <kmao> goood morning
[07:22] <kmao> any up in eru:)
[07:22] <kmao> i need some help..
[07:24] <kmao> the kdm login screen is not working in kubu 10.10 and the kde 4,6 = i on acer spire one d250 1dw
[08:08] <jemand> Hi all,
[08:08] <jemand> since I upgraded to KDE 4.6 parts of the screen are not updatet. When Iscroll back and forth the screen is updatet in parts.
[08:08] <jemand> any clue?
[08:24] <gr8m8> jemand:  what graphics card do you have?
[08:36] <jemand> gr8m8 : Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:36] <jemand> it's a Thinkpad T61
[08:38] <jemand> I switched off the desktop effects. Now it's fine. OK
[08:38] <jemand> :-(
[10:04] <gr8m8> jemand:  wasn't there an issue with some intel gm cards reporting that they did things that they didn't? I'm sure I saw that somewhere along the line
[10:39] <jemand> ok. THX
[10:39] <jemand> if you find more specific let me know.
[10:39] <jemand> I try to find it in this chat-history...
[10:41] <valorie>  jemand, I have the same issue
[10:41] <valorie> and I have an ATI card
[10:42] <jemand> Now someone up withe this issue on NVidia?
[10:43] <jemand> I think, there is a prob with the graphic refresh...
[10:43] <jemand> and it's KDE 4.6 wide
[10:43] <valorie> yes
[10:43] <jemand> as long as we can handle it by switching off gimmecks of KDE it's just an annoyance...
[10:44] <valorie> one thing that helped in some kde apps was using graphicsraster something or other
[10:44] <valorie> I can look that up if it will help you
[10:44] <valorie> I put it into the menu startup stuff
[10:44] <jemand> but when I look back the last 3 years:
[10:44] <jemand> everything that was running fine runs into probs.
[10:45] <valorie> well, since I added it to conversation, I have no more probs with its redrawing
[10:45] <jemand> - sound
[10:45] <jemand> - fax
[10:45] <jemand> - printing
[10:45] <jemand> - burning
[10:45] <jemand> - ....
[10:45] <FloodBotK3> jemand: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:45] <valorie> same with patience
[10:46] <jemand> jep. "patience" is obviously the most needed attribute...
[10:46] <valorie> lol
[10:48] <javier> Hi to everybody. Is there finally something to do to make longer batery life in Kubuntu? I have a new laptop and batery last 3.5h in windows and only 2h in kubuntu... Someone knows how to make it a bit better in kubuntu?
[10:49] <valorie> interesting
[10:49] <valorie> you might try powertop
[10:51] <javier> powertop?
[10:51] <javier> valorie: is it another problem to control energy?
[10:52] <javier> valorie: something courious is that I've tried "backtrack 4" livecd distro and then batery life is as long as in windows...
[10:55] <javier> valorie: i've installed powertop. If I copy-paste you results, could you try to help me? Not sure I can get a lot of information from there...
[10:57] <javier> valorie: I've got something like "wakeups-from-idle per second: 300"
[10:59] <valorie> sorry, I haven't used it myself
[10:59] <valorie> but I know many who have, with good results
[10:59] <valorie> I'm plugged in, usually
[10:59] <valorie> so I don't really care
[10:59] <valorie> google a bit -- it's widely used
[11:00] <javier> ok, thanks!
[11:00] <javier> maybe someone else there can help me while I google it...
[11:03] <valorie> not usually many people awake at this time
[11:04] <javier> powertop says all the time that many programs are recording its data in a file in /dev/s
[11:04] <javier> ah, jeje
[11:04] <javier> right
[11:04] <javier> I'm in spain, didn't thought about what time can be far from here
[11:04] <javier> hehehe
[11:04] <javier> thanks valorie!
[11:07] <yofel> javier: the wakeups are the reasons per minute why your CPU isn't in deep sleep (highest C value)
[11:08] <javier> I see.
[11:08] <javier> ..
[11:08] <yofel> the list you see below are the processes causing the most wakeups
[11:08] <javier> yofel: almost 100% if time is working C3  (C1-C3 supported
[11:09] <javier> but i don't get such list
[11:09] <yofel> sec
[11:10] <javier> just, under title "top causes for wakeups" I have simple message that changes every 10 seconds, and that message is always telling that some program is recording data in a file located in /dev/sda7 and this prevents the disk to go to save energy state
[11:12] <javier> I mean programs like <<'plama-desktop>>
[11:12] <javier> >>'akonadi_control>>
[11:12] <yofel> hm, here's how it looks like here: http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/pt.png
 and like that, it's changing every time
[11:12] <yofel> note: run powertop as root
[11:13] <yofel> since it needs some system access
[11:14] <javier> yes, i started with "sudo powertop"
[11:18] <javier> dont know why i don't get the "top causes for wakeups list of applications..."
[11:23] <javier> I'm working in C3 almost all the time, so there my computer is doing well. The problem may be in "wakeups", that is over 250 all the time" Reasons for those wakeups are said location where some important programs are writting, because those files are located in /dev/sda7, which prevents the disk to go on safe energy mode
[11:26] <yofel> sry, back, had to reconnect
[11:27] <yofel> javier: the easiest way to measure power usage is to work on battery, powertop will then display the power consumption and batter time remaining
[11:28] <Anubis1> hi there
[11:29] <Anubis1> i have a problem with my 1004LTS kubuntu installation
[11:29] <Anubis1> i just upgraded some packages and now i can see only some colored boxes on my screen
[11:30] <Anubis1> and i cant access any console
[11:30] <Anubis1> what can i do ?
[11:31] <javier> yofel: yes, i'm seeing that. Well, powertop tells me batery will be for 3 hours, but it's not true, it's getting empty as fast as always
[11:31] <yofel> well, it takes that value from acpi, you can get the same time by installing acpi and running 'acpi -V'
[11:35] <javier> yofel: ah, ok, that was useful. But, still think i have to do something to improve energy use with those wakeups
[11:35] <javier> yofel: I smell something is not working fine
[11:39] <yofel> well, I don't get those below 100 myself here, usually making sure that bluetooth and/or wireless aren't on if I don't need them helps a lot
[11:39] <yofel> by turning them off using rfkill
[11:40] <javier> mhm
[11:40] <bluebirdjar> Hi everyone, what is the package to display battery information on laptop?
[11:41] <mknightofwest> Hi =)
[11:42] <valorie> acpi, I believe
[11:43] <yofel> yeah, acpi from the command line, and the battery applet is part of the default system
[11:49] <bluebirdjar> got it thank you
[11:51] <Anubis1> so, can anyone help me ?
[11:54] <Peace-> Anubis1: ?
[11:54] <Peace-> Anubis1: what did you do ?
[11:54] <Peace-> upgrade from unsupported repository
[11:54] <Peace-> which video card have you ?
[11:55] <Anubis1> upgraded some packages (eg.openoffice, xorg). nvidia
[11:56] <Anubis1> and i tried to start virtual box
[11:57] <Anubis1> i guess it's something related to virtualbox
[11:57] <Peace-> Anubis1: mmm welll i suggest to downgrade your nvidia driver
[11:57] <Peace-> i guess
[11:58] <Anubis1> but i can't access any tty
[11:58] <Peace-> Anubis1: well the only stuff you can do is a reboot
[11:58] <Peace-> Anubis1: if you can do anythin
[11:58] <Peace-> ...
[11:59] <Anubis1> i rebooted, but i'm not able to switch to any tty
[11:59] <Peace-> Anubis1: ok read this
[11:59] <Peace-> Anubis1: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/
[11:59] <Peace-> Anubis1: remember old packages are on
[12:00] <Peace->  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:00] <Peace-> so the older packages of your nvidia should be there
[12:00] <Peace-> should be
[12:01] <Anubis1> peace: i will try. thank you.
[12:01] <Peace-> xserver-xorg-video-nvidia+blablablablablablablabal
[12:01] <Peace-> choose not the latest
[12:02] <Peace-> Anubis1: romanian?
[12:02] <Peace-> xD
[12:06] <Peace-> Anubis1: to instal a package from terminal
[12:06] <Peace-> Anubis1: sudo dpkg -i   /var/cache/apt/archives/NAMEPACKAGES
[12:07] <Anubis1> ok
[12:13] <Anubis1> great link
[12:13] <Anubis1> thank you
[12:14] <Anubis1> it seems that was a problem related to dpkg
[12:15] <Anubis1> and it upgraded my kernel also
[12:26] <vanguard> how can I tell the network manager (nm) that It should connect to a specific connection at startup and not use autoeth0?
[12:37] <Peace-> vanguard: mm guess you can edit some configuration file like
[12:37] <Peace-> mm
[12:37] <Peace-> interfaces
[12:38] <Peace-> vanguard: guess /etc/network/interfaces
[12:38] <Peace-> you could even remove  nm if you are able to se well that file..
[12:38] <Peace-> xD
[12:39] <Peace-> vanguard: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[12:49] <vanguard> Peace-: I'll check it out, thx
[12:50] <vanguard> Peace-: the nm config is not in there, I guess 8.04 is not relevant at this any more ...
[12:50] <Peace-> mm
[12:50] <Peace-> vanguard: i guess there should be
[12:50] <Peace-> vanguard: i am on natty now
[12:50] <Peace-> vanguard: and i have..
[12:50] <Peace-> xD
[12:51] <vanguard> well, the config is there, but it is not filled too much with any data that I entered into nm
[12:51] <Peace-> of couse is empty
[12:51] <Peace-> a@natty:~/src/ffmpeg$ locate interfaces | grep etc
[12:51] <Peace-> /etc/network/interfaces
[12:51] <Peace-> /etc/network/interfaces.bak-0
[12:52] <Peace-> vanguard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221102
[12:53] <Peace-> sorruy wrong link
[12:53] <Peace-> vanguard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[12:56] <vanguard> oh, I use a wired connection, so most of that does not apply to me
[12:58] <Peace-> vanguard: well should be easier
[12:58] <Peace-> vanguard: i have not link under my hand right now
[12:59] <Peace-> vanguard: if you search
[12:59] <Peace-> vanguard: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
[12:59] <Peace-> vanguard: Manual Network Configuration without the need for Network Manager ethernet
[13:03] <vanguard> okay, I will have to check whether my new setup will work
[13:03] <vanguard> Peace-: Do I have to disable nm now?
[13:03] <Peace-> vanguard: you have to test
[13:03] <vanguard> Peace-: k
[13:03] <Peace-> vanguard: i will kill the network manager
[13:03] <Peace-> and test the connection
[13:04] <Peace-> then if it works...
[13:04] <Peace-> i will remove it
[13:04] <Peace-> but only if you know how to install it again
[13:04] <Peace-> it's not something for noob...
[13:04] <Peace-> but for pro users ..
[13:06] <vanguard> well, I'll have to see. Thanks for you help!
[13:07] <Peace-> vanguard: :=)
[13:32] <markit> hi, kde 4.6, in dolphin the "filter" panel has all options grayed out (not active), is it normal? how can I enable it so I can search for date or other options?
[13:35] <jemand> markit : It only works with nepomuk & strigi   :-(
[13:35] <markit> jemand: urgh, how can I find files like I'm used with kde4.5?
[13:36] <markit> I've disabled nepomuk and stigi, dont want to waste time and space indexing my 2TB hd
[13:36] <jemand> I did the same.
[13:37] <markit> no solution?
[13:37] <markit> damn, so I have to downgrade to 4.5... is quite impossible without break something, I'm shocked
[13:37] <jemand> markit : CTRL F
[13:38] <markit> let me boot my laptop and try (here I'm still in 4.5, since I do need search )
[13:39] <markit> wondering why simply dolphin can't detect if stigi is workign and revert back to "non indexed" search automatically
[13:39] <Peace-> markit: guess you have to enable nepomuck
[13:40] <Peace-> markit: there is a filter barr..
[13:40] <markit> jemand: ^F does not enable the filter panel
[13:40] <Peace-> markit: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/filterbar.jpeg
[13:40] <markit> Peace-: I'm very disappointed... I do hate all these "automatic indexing" that plague M$crap world
[13:41] <Peace-> markit: 4.6 is not optimezed on 10.10
[13:41] <Peace-> i am on natty ...
[13:41] <Peace-> alpha2
[13:42] <markit> Peace-: mmm "show filter bar" shows something in the bottom... then? how can I set a date interval for instance?
[13:43] <markit> Peace-: on natty does not require nepomuck? is a kubuntu "requirement" and not a standard kde one?
[13:46] <Peace-> have to go
[13:46] <Peace-> you have to learn how to show sutff
[13:46] <Peace-> on dolophin
[13:46] <Peace-> and organize them
[13:46] <Peace-> locate stuff
[13:47] <markit> don't understand you
[13:47] <markit> in 4.5 there is Tools -> find file
[13:48] <markit> and you can specify many search criteria
[13:48] <markit> like "modified since.." etc
[13:48] <markit> in 4.6 you don't have, since the filter bar is disabled
[13:48] <Peace-> markit: settins configure dolophin
[13:48] <markit> (exept if you use nepomuck, but is a bad bad idea)
[13:48] <Peace-> shortcuts
[13:48] <Peace-> and whatever you want
[13:49] <markit> Peace-: don't understand the relation with shortcuts
[13:49] <markit> if the filter functionality has been removed
[13:49] <markit> or am I missing something?
[13:49] <Peace-> omg
[13:50] <Peace-> sorry no time right now
[13:50] <markit> Peace-: ok, thanks anyway
[13:50] <markit> anyone else with my problem and a way to solve?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:03] <Hourglasss> I need help with some microphone issues as a new user can anybody help?
[15:04] <Hourglasss> anybody here
[15:06] <Hourglasss> ....
[15:06] <rork> !ask | Hourglasss
[15:07] <Hourglasss> my microphone will not pick up audio, i followed the help things on the ubuntu docs but they did not help either
[15:16] <barraponto> how do i take a widget from an activity to another?
[15:18] <james147> barraponto: not sure thats possible through the gui... though copying the widget in the config files to the right location might work... it probally easier to reconfigure a new widget
[15:19] <james147> barraponto: you can also create a new activity by cloning another one should you want severil widgets coped,
[15:20] <barraponto> james147: i thought i had seen it on a video.
[15:20] <barraponto> james147: hmm, maybe that was it. is there cloning from the gui?
[15:20] <james147> barraponto: what kde version are you on?
[15:21] <barraponto> james147: found it, thanks. 4.6 latest packages on kubuntu ppa
[16:12] <lenzy> what do i have to do to make amarok 2.4 play cds ?
[16:54] <bluesceada> hey i just want to simply report a bug, where can i find the respective bugzilla? I can just find the launchpad bugs, but dont see any way to report bugs there
[16:54] <bluesceada> it's a kde or kubuntu-wide bug, so i wanted to report it in kubuntus bug tracking...
[16:55] <bluesceada> (when setting up automounting of partitions and choosing the wallpaper from that partition, the wallpaper can't be set on login, because it seems automounting is just done AFTER setting the wallpaper)
[16:56] <Tecumseh> i just installed a fresh copy of kubuntu 10.10, also installed kde 4.6 from the backports ppa. Apparantly not all packages got updated, maybe because I first did an aptitude safe-upgrade and later a dist-upgrade. Now some packages are still at version 4.5.1, how can I get a list of those packages and upgrade them to 4.6 safely?
[16:56] <bluesceada> another bug is in network-manager not being able to remember a custom ethernet lan setting (it will always default to "auto eth0" on login
[16:57] <yofel> bluesceada: I would say report that on bugs.kde.org, you'll need an account for either bug tracker
[16:58] <bluesceada> yofel: okay, already have one there ... but is the automount bug really kde related? i dont have it in the kde on debian (or maybe that's because ubuntu has a more recent kde version)
[16:58] <yofel> as for the NM bug, not sure what's at fault here, but I do know that behavriour :/
[16:58] <yofel> bluesceada: hm, which release are you running? squeeze has 4.4. IIRC
[16:59] <bluesceada> squeeze, yeah
[16:59] <bluesceada> 4.4.. yep
[16:59] <yofel> kubuntu maverick has 4.5.1 by default, with 4.5.5 and 4.6.0 in PPAs
[16:59] <bluesceada> hm ok, maybe it's added to kde by then
[17:00] <bluesceada> but some things were always a bit different in kde in ubuntu (probably some ubuntu-patches.. )
[17:00] <bluesceada> for example kbluetooth added etc.
[17:01] <bluesceada> but ok, i will report these "bugs" on kde's bugtracking later
[17:02] <bluesceada> somehow more usability than bugs, told by someone who just recently tried kubuntu
[17:03] <bluesceada> and both bugs are partial showstoppers for "normal" people who just want to use the computer for mostly internet and media stuff
[17:03] <bluesceada> anyway, -> afk
[17:09] <MikeAndPotatoes> you are a bunch of frauds. 1 application is all it takes to prove you as just as wicked as i have been saying. you have no concern. there is no way this software is on the center without someone having approved it to be listed.
[17:09] <MikeAndPotatoes> PornView?
[17:10] <MikeAndPotatoes> that is not family friendly
[17:10] <MikeAndPotatoes> it shows just how stupid you are with your absolute take on technical issues
[17:10] <MikeAndPotatoes> i have show you as misrepresenting everything you standfor
[17:10] <MikeAndPotatoes> and you will go even further and further if it means possibly getting away with the first wrong doing
[17:11] <MikeAndPotatoes> people of many ages use Ubuntu. yet how do you provide support for PornView
[17:11] <Tecumseh> sorry, to whom are you addressing this?
[17:11] <MikeAndPotatoes> you don't. you lie your ass off and say that you don't talk about it
[17:11] <MikeAndPotatoes> TEcumseh
[17:12] <rork> !info pornview
[17:12] <MikeAndPotatoes> Freenode has Staff which sympathise for ubuntu because of the money canonical donates and the reputation ubuntu has. however they sympathize too much.
[17:12] <rork> sounds like a badly chosen name to me
[17:12] <MikeAndPotatoes> yes
[17:13] <MikeAndPotatoes> if i was a curious kid and i saw a pretty face. i would search the web for a pornview. and we all know that won't turn up an innocent photo manager
[17:14] <MikeAndPotatoes> you have been way too harsh on me, and way too arrogant. even this 1 program is enough for me to feel it is time for you all to drop the conspiracy
[17:14] <Tecumseh> lol
[17:14] <Tecumseh> anyway, I'm off to diner
[17:14] <Tm_T> MikeAndPotatoes: this is wrong place for this, and you know it
[17:14] <MikeAndPotatoes> i am banned from all channels. the ones i can enter just refer to their email.
[17:15] <MikeAndPotatoes> fuck you tm_t. your freenode staff are ubuntu ops, some are ubuntu councilmen. there is more combinations of freenode and you working together than you can possibly expect me to believe you won't lie
[17:15] <MikeAndPotatoes> you are telling me i am ban evading, yet i was able to enter those channels
[17:16] <Tm_T> oh well...
[17:16] <Daskreech> Tm_T: You own freenode staff?
[17:17] <gpc> only 80% of them
[17:17] <gpc> :P
[17:17] <Tm_T> yes I do, you didn't know it? (;
[17:17] <Daskreech> I love how he has a direct comparison between number of staff and belief in lies
[17:18] <Daskreech> assuming that MikAndPotatoes is a he
[17:19] <ryrych> hello
[17:19] <Daskreech> hi
[17:20] <ryrych> having formated my kingston pendrive to ext4, I can mount it as a user but don’t have permission to write — the root is owner. Why?
[17:21] <Daskreech> ryrych: add a umask for the mount script if you would like multiple users to be able to write to it or if it's only you on the computer then you can just make yourself the user
[17:24] <ryrych> Daskreech: I always mount my external drives with KDE’s widget, not with cli. It worked before I’d formated it to ext4 (was fat32)
[17:25] <Daskreech> ryrych: Fat32 doesn't have a concept of ownership ext4 does
[17:26] <Daskreech> !fstab > ryrych
[17:26] <Daskreech> Read that and set it up as you would like. I'd suggest for an option umask=0022
[17:28] <BluesKaj> anybody here have exprience with Aver media on Linux?
[17:28] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hey hey
[17:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have solved ;D
[17:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: microphone problem :P
[17:29] <ryrych> Daskreech: I see. I want to use this pendrive as additional backup (snapshots made by rsnapshot). Is it useful to keep it on ext* or fat will be sufficient?
[17:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: was not the volume of mic
[17:29] <BluesKaj> hi Peace- , good , what was the fix ?
[17:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: my intel audio card has sampling rate of 48000
[17:29] <Peace-> BluesKaj: if i record with 44100
[17:30] <Peace-> it get a lots of noise :P
[17:30] <BluesKaj> yeah, dither and conversion noise
[17:30] <Peace-> :)
[17:31] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have used this
[17:31] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 2 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,0   -s 1024x768 -f x11grab -r 30  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast  -threads 2 output.mkv
[17:31] <Peace-> works fine :D
[17:31] <BluesKaj> Peace-, that's a video command string
[17:31] <Daskreech> ryrych: Either works. It's just storage
[17:32] <Daskreech> ryrych: rsnapshot will work better with ext4 though
[17:32] <BluesKaj> Peace-, well partly video anyway
[17:32] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :) yea it's an ultra fast screencast command line
[17:33] <Peace-> BluesKaj: and uses alsa :)
[17:33] <Peace-> it
[17:33] <BluesKaj> -s 1024x768 -f x11grab -r 30  -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec libx264
[17:33] <Peace-> that took the video of your screen :)
[17:33] <Peace-> takes
[17:33] <BluesKaj> yeah as does mplayer and mencoder , Peace-
[17:33] <Peace-> xD
[17:34] <Peace-> in the future mencoder will not be upgraded
[17:34] <Peace-> ffmpeg i guess has won
[17:34] <ryrych> Daskreech: ok, thanks :)
[17:35] <BluesKaj> well, I'm thinking buying this fo my media-server pc , but I'm not buy til i find out if there are linux drivers :http://www.buy.com/prod/avermedia-avertv-hd-dvr-video-capture-card/q/sellerid/11408470/loc/111/212576898.html
[17:35] <BluesKaj> err not buying
[17:37] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I don't think mencoder/mplayer and ffmpeg are competing, for example ffmpeg doesn't have a GUI
[17:37] <Peace-> BluesKaj: on then mail list , mencoder, says it's better use ffmpeg
[17:37] <Peace-> to convert
[17:37] <Peace-> infact if you see mencoder is nasty with some videos
[17:38] <Peace-> and with audio it's not comfortable
[17:38] <Daskreech> ryrych: Sure
[17:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, well I had to use it to capture video thru a usb capture card ,ffmpeg didn't see the card as a source
[17:39] <Peace-> wth
[17:39] <Peace-> bash stuff
[17:39] <Peace-> bad
[17:39] <BluesKaj> v4l2
[17:39] <Peace-> mm
[17:40] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i did this interface xD http://wstaw.org/m/2011/02/06/plasma-desktopPm5066.jpg
[17:40] <Peace-> BluesKaj: time ago...
[17:41] <Peace-> but it still works , natty here
[17:55] <sayakb> hi. yesterday in upgraded to 4.6 from backports. now kdm throws me an error "cannot open theme /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ethais". i logged in to a tty and verified that folder is there. i can also see "oxygen" there so i tried that, but same error. any pointers?
[18:08] <ryrych> Daskreech: I've read that umask, fmask, dmask are for specifically for fat. What about ext?
[18:11] <ryrych> Daskreech: I have now entry in fstab, I can mount it as a user but still don’t have write permissions. Changing the mounting point owner to me doesn’t do the trick :(
[18:21] <sriramoman> i have noticed since recent that my KDE graphics looks bit awkward when I close and open my laptop lid, instead of the usual crisp one.. note the heavy visibility of gradients.:  http://img819.imageshack.us/f/kde.png/ I would be glad if someone told me a workaround for this. kubuntu 10.10
[18:30] <bluesceada> sriramoman: sorry but that looks perfectly nice for me
[18:30] <sriramoman> bluesceada: i shall logout and login again, and post and show a 'good' screenshot
[18:36] <vanguard> I got 3D hardware accel in Games, but my desktop effects do not work. What can I do to enable them?
[18:38] <bluesceada> vanguard: maybe try to disable "functionality checks" in the advanced tab of desktop effects
[18:38] <BluesKaj> which graphics card , vanguard?
[18:39] <sriramoman> bluesceada: compare these: http://img97.imageshack.us/f/kden.jpg/ and http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5613/kde.png The first one is taken immediately after closing+opening laptop lid
[18:39] <vanguard> BluesKaj: ATI 2600 Pro Mobile (iMac 20")
[18:39] <vanguard> BluesKaj: Everything is grayed out in that tab because of some technical reasons
[18:39] <bluesceada> sriramoman: oh yeah, i see :S
[18:40] <Tecumseh> i just installed a fresh copy of kubuntu 10.10, also installed kde 4.6 from the backports ppa. Apparantly not all packages got updated, maybe because I first did an aptitude safe-upgrade and later a dist-upgrade. Now some packages are still at version 4.5.1, how can I get a list of those packages and upgrade them to 4.6 safely?
[18:40] <vanguard> bluesceada: Everything is grayed out in that tab because of some technical reasons
[18:40] <bluesceada> sriramoman: maybe your graphics adapter reduces screen bit depth
[18:40] <sriramoman> actually i have ATI mobility radeon 1GB and this problem wasnt there in kubuntu 10.04. moreover even now, it isnt there in the gnome login
[18:41] <bluesceada> ummm, yeah hmm. maybe you just dont see it in gnome?
[18:41] <bluesceada> otherwise i would say it's the ati driver
[18:42] <bluesceada> sadly, ati and nvidia both have not 100% good drivers :/
[18:42] <james147> Tecumseh: make sure "kubuntu-desktop" is still installed (if not install it) then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  (or sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade)
[18:44] <Tecumseh> thx james147, but no succes there. kubuntu-desktop is installed and aptitude update && full-upgrade don't have anything to install
[18:45] <sriramoman> bluesceada: i chkd now, the problem isn't there in gnome. and i tried removing fglrx, which indicates that even the switched intel mobility graphics is creating this same problem
[18:45] <james147> Tecumseh: try "sudo aptitude install -f"
[18:45] <bluesceada> huh, sriramoman you have two graphics in that notebook?
[18:45] <james147> ^^ it should attempt to fix any broken dependencies
[18:45] <bluesceada> that support just recently came to the kernel as far as i know
[18:45] <bluesceada> maybe that is the problem then..
[18:45] <BluesKaj> vanguard, is this the driver you use ? http://en.kioskea.net/download/download-850-driver-ati-radeon-catalyst-linux-x86
[18:46] <bluesceada> if you removed fglrx it doesnt mean your intel card is used
[18:46] <ubuntu__> where did the compled cfile stored......
[18:46] <bluesceada> vesa or radeon or whatever driver might be used
[18:47] <vanguard> BluesKaj: I installed the proprietary one with jockey. I'll look it up
[18:48] <vanguard> BluesKaj: "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX-Driver"
[18:48] <sriramoman> bluesceada: i actually have the graphics given by i5 processor as well as the ATI card... the system tends to use intel card by default if fglrx is absent
[18:48] <bluesceada> ah umm, ok
[18:49] <bluesceada> but that is only supported by a recent kernel afaik
[18:49] <bluesceada> "recent" ... since 2.6.35 that is ...
[18:49] <bluesceada> but means it might be a quite unstable feature
[18:49] <bluesceada> and you are absolutely sure it is using intel if fglrx is absent?
[18:50] <sriramoman> mine is the recent kernel and this overly compressed graphics is seen only in the KDE of ubuntu 10.10, and is fine in gnome or earlier kubuntus
[18:50] <sriramoman> yes i am sure its using intel
[18:50] <sriramoman> thats how it shows in all the display config interfaces
[18:50] <sriramoman> 'intel HD graphics' with the model no
[18:51] <BluesKaj> sriramoman, lspci | grep VGA will tell which card is being used
[18:52] <bluesceada> okay
[18:52] <bluesceada> i would still guess it might have something to do with the switching
[18:52] <bluesceada> maybe it is switched to intel when the lid gets closed
[18:52] <bluesceada> ah wait, you said it's also when you only use intel?
[18:53] <sriramoman> bluesceada: it looks horrible in both intel as well as ati
[18:53] <bluesceada> ok
[18:53] <sriramoman> [sriram@localhost ~]# lspci | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[18:53] <jado> hi, how can i find an offset in a file with Kate?
[18:54] <sriramoman> sriram@slocalhost:~$ lspci | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 68e1
[18:57] <sriramoman> jado: offset means>
[18:58] <jado> character 781 for instance
[18:59] <BluesKaj> sriramoman, so you have 2 cards ... I recommend making a decision on which one to use , probly the ati since it's a pci card . You may need to choose the card you want by entering the BIOS and in system peripherals move choose or make the pci as default
[19:02] <sriramoman> BluesKaj: thats fine, i chose intel only to see if its ati's problem, nothing else. otherwise i am using ATI. this problem doesnt occur in gnome or older versions of KDE.. this problem occurs if i close+open laptop-lid or off+on the LCD
[19:04] <BluesKaj> sriramoman, 2video cards on a laptop, that's unusual , but the BIOS Setting should still be done once you decide
[19:05] <sriramoman> BluesKaj: i set the bios now to use ATI. I just showed that output sometime ago to show that I really have intel, too.. Now my bios is set to use ATI and still I face this problem
[19:05] <praveen_> #c
[19:05] <bluesceada> newer kernels should support the runtime switching, but might have still glitches
[19:05] <sriramoman> even if i choose intel in bios i face the problem
[19:05] <bluesceada> can you also set in bios to completely hide the other card or something like that?
[19:06] <sriramoman> bluesceada: i made the choice only in bios. not runtime, dont worry:)
[19:06] <sriramoman> yes now its like that. if i choose in bios, the other card wont be seen
[19:06] <bluesceada> no i mean you said, if you dont have fglrx installed it automatically falls back to intel...
[19:06] <bluesceada> even if only ati is set in bios?
[19:06] <bluesceada> ah okay
[19:06] <bluesceada> hmh
[19:07] <BluesKaj> bluesceada, yes , just make the card you want the default in the BIOS
[19:07] <bluesceada> maybe search for your specific laptop model and linux (not just ubuntu) and look if you can find out more - at least i can not tell what this might be causing
[19:07] <bluesceada> or tell us your laptop model
[19:07] <sriramoman> and i am telling u again, this is a problem that i exclusively noticed in kde that ships with kubuntu 10.10.. this problem is neither prevalent in gnome, nor in kubuntu 10.04 or any older versions
[19:08] <sriramoman> hp G62-121EE
[19:09] <sriramoman> do u think the problem may be solved if i upgrade to 4.6.0? i mean kde
[19:09] <bluesceada> doesnt really sound like a kde problem to me
[19:09] <bluesceada> maybe it's some screen power saving setting which is set up different in kde than gnome as default
[19:09] <bluesceada> but the real problem doesnt lie there - at least imho
[19:09] <fdg> does anybody know is it possible to damage the coputer using the overclocking features in bios inproperly ?
[19:10] <fdg> in specifics incerasing cpu voltage from 1.3 to 1.4
[19:10] <bluesceada> fdg: nobody can guarantee that you wont damage it, but recent cpus usually can do an emergency shutdown if they get too hot
[19:11] <BluesKaj> !overclocki |fdg
[19:11] <bluesceada> i dont want to recommend it to you, but if you want to do the maybe risky overclocking: go in small steps towards the goal what you want to reach
[19:11] <fdg> well I thought I was doing this
[19:11] <fdg> lol
[19:12] <fdg> so now I'll probably have to reset the bios manually right ?
[19:12] <fdg> because my system hangs faster and faster, cant get to bios anymore
[19:12] <bluesceada> oh, then do a bios reset, yeh
[19:12] <BluesKaj> fdg , there are no overclocking guarantees at all on any OS
[19:13] <BluesKaj> increasing from 1.3 to 1.4 won't show much IMO , and it's risky
[19:13] <bluesceada> fdg: yeh this is from overclocker to overclocker, not any safety aware computer engineer: just reset the bios and use the previous last settings that didnt cause a crash ;-)
[19:14] <bluesceada> but in the end this is really offtopic here, as the operating system has really nearly nothing to do with it
[19:15] <bluesceada> sriramoman: that notebook seems really very new ... did you have different 64/32bit installs?
[19:15] <bluesceada> or are you comparing all 64 bit to all 32bit versions?
[19:16] <bluesceada> and same fglrx driver versions on 10.04 and 10.10
[19:16] <bluesceada> maybe you should look into the desktop effect settings and set for compatibility *just guessing*
[19:16] <sriramoman> bluesceada: pls do not trust reviews. its very fast enough :P this is a 64bit version
[19:16] <bluesceada> ?
[19:16] <bluesceada> i dont know what you mean about reviews, but yeh
[19:17] <bluesceada> but wait fglrx doesnt mean much if it's also intel :S
[19:17] <sriramoman> i mean reviews which they may write in sites etc. it comes with win7, which is slow in any PC :P kubuntu is fast and flashy only that this small problem is there
[19:18] <BluesKaj> fglrx driver runs on the ati card
[19:18] <sriramoman> do u think a notebook with 6GB DDR3 RAM, 1GB gfx card and an i5 processor can run slow
[19:18] <sriramoman> but as bluesceada said, this problem exists even if i chose the intel card from bios
[19:18] <bluesceada> http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-systems-and/HP-guys-alert-Instant-ON-Ubuntu/m-p/322522
[19:18] <bluesceada> :-)
[19:18] <bluesceada> you're so right
[19:19] <sriramoman> bluesceada: btw, pls note that the posting is mine ;-)
[19:21] <bluesceada> sriramoman: yeh, because of that i told that you're so right ;-)
[19:21] <sriramoman> hehe :D
[19:22] <bluesceada> but you dont find much about that notebook, hm :S
[19:22] <bluesceada> and strange only kde affected etc :S
[19:22] <bluesceada> did you check for screen depth after the resume
[19:22] <bluesceada> eh lid open
[19:22] <bluesceada> does it also happen if you sleep/resume
[19:22] <sriramoman> only KDE 4.5.1 is affected :(
[19:23] <sriramoman> sleep/resume is calculated as a lid close + open i suppose, i guess thats how it ends up that way
[19:23] <bluesceada> xdpyinfo |grep -e depth.*root
[19:23] <bluesceada> maybe something like that
[19:23] <bluesceada> does it show less than 24?
[19:24] <bluesceada> and i am also not sure if xdpyinfo is the right way
[19:24] <sriramoman> sriram@sriram-HP-G62:~$ xdpyinfo |grep -e depth.*root   depth of root window:    24 planes
[19:24] <bluesceada> hm
[19:25] <sriramoman> now with the display reset to crisp mode, it is still the same output
[19:26] <bluesceada> crisp mode ?
[19:26] <bluesceada> crisp meaning "looking like less color depth" ?
[19:26] <bluesceada> (visible steps in gradients)
[19:26] <sriramoman> note: if i go to system settings and simply reselect the current display settings and apply, the settings are same but the display becomes crisp. thats what i mean by crisp mode
[19:27] <sriramoman> smooth and crisp gradient
[19:27] <bluesceada> i would write about the problem in some forum to get more people into looking at it
[19:27] <sriramoman> of course, if i switch off and switch on display, it becomes bad again
[19:27] <bluesceada> ah ok
[19:27] <bluesceada> that's an important info i guess
[19:28] <sriramoman> or shall i try upgrading to the nightly 4.6 before writing into forums :D
[19:28] <bluesceada> only switch on and off of the display causes problems...
[19:28] <bluesceada> i dont know if I would
[19:28] <bluesceada> try some kde 4.5 live cd if it also happens there
[19:28] <bluesceada> or some other distri
[19:28] <bluesceada> opensuse live cd? knoppix? i dont know..
[19:29] <bluesceada> sriramoman: and you cant switch to any display mode that is "smooth" ?
[19:30] <bluesceada> what happens if you strg+alt+f1 and then strg+alt+f7 (to get back to X)
[19:31] <bluesceada> maybe also look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log immediately after you turned off and on the display
[19:31] <sriramoman> bluesceada: lol ctrl+alt+f1 and back to ctrl+alt+f7 'crispens' back the display
[19:32] <bluesceada> hm
[19:32] <bluesceada> then look into the log
[19:32] <bluesceada> what happened recently, maybe it gives some hint about an error or warning that it has to fallback to some mode
[19:38] <bluesceada> sriramoman: you looked into /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar ..
[19:38] <sriramoman> bluesceada: just prepared a compilation... http://pastebin.com/gvwjhfyR
[19:39] <bluesceada> umm i really dont know what the reuse xkmfile means
[19:39] <bluesceada> now i dont have any more ideas, sorry
[19:39] <bluesceada> post it in some forum maybe
[19:40] <sriramoman> thank you
[19:40] <bluesceada> or try to find out what happened in kde (#kde ?) from 4.4 to 4.5 (if that was the difference from 10.04 to 10.10 ?)
[19:41] <bluesceada> maybe 4.5 is really causing some different display management policies that cause these problems, as it is really strange that gnome works
[19:42] <genii-around> xkm file is like a keyboard mapping file that your keyboard selection is stored in. so when you can switch between 2 different languages for instance, it loads a different xkm file
[19:43] <genii-around> If it's saying something like "resuing xkm file" most likely you don't have language support installed for the keyboard you are trying to load
[19:44] <bluesceada> so that has probably nothing to do with the screen seeming to turn depth down :S
[19:45] <bluesceada> maybe it is really the *screen* itself
[19:45] <sriramoman> oh that may be true, genii-around so i doubt if that is display-issue coz i agree with u, half my language packs are not installed properly
[19:45] <sriramoman> bluesceada: in that case the problem should affect gnome, thats not the case
[19:45] <bluesceada> damn, right :S
[19:45] <bluesceada> ugh eh sorry
[19:46] <bluesceada> why must so strange problems exist
[19:48] <sriramoman> true.. lets see.. gonna try KDE 4.6
[19:48] <fdg> wow I just smashed my xp thanks to my overclocking !
[19:49] <fdg> soooo after all it was somehow related ! hahahah
[19:54] <BluesKaj> overclocking used to be for gamers whose pcs didn't run fast enuff to keep everything synched , but with the cpus and graphics it's almost totally unecessary
[19:54] <BluesKaj> today
[19:54] <bluesceada> or for photoshop :-D
[19:54] <bluesceada> i have my phenom ii x3 720 2,8@3,4ghz .. still running silent :D
[19:55] <bluesceada> no real special cooling except a bigger passive heatsink with 120mm fan
[19:55] <genii-around> I have a machine at home we overclock every time we need to do 3d rendering, then put it back afterwards
[19:55] <bluesceada> for 15 euros ...
[19:56] <bluesceada> i am really amazed how much room there was for overclocking with only slight overvolting (up to 3,1 without overvolting)
[19:56] <bluesceada> but, i dont want to get offtopic...
[19:57] <bluesceada> sriramoman: i'm interested if it's fixed in kde 4.6 ;-)
[19:58] <sriramoman> sure, i'd tell u, just keep ur nickname same till tomorrow :) i mean till 8:30pm IST
[19:58] <sriramoman> **indian standard time
[20:03] <sriramoman> bluesceada: i am leaving,, see u at 6:00pm IST, 7th Feb
[20:03] <bluesceada> what is IST :S
[20:05] <bluesceada> hm ok
[20:13] <ecinx3> i can't see any icons (open apps in my task bar. I can see K , the favorites folder, the desktop switcher, system tray icons and clock, but not applications that are open
[20:15] <james147> ecinx3: did you remove the taskbar widget? if so just add it back again (right clcik something > add widgets > find "Task manager"  and drag it back
[20:16] <ecinx3> thanks, that worked.  I didn't remove it intentionally
[20:18] <james147> ecinx3: it happens :) but just so you know, everything on the desktop/panel is a widget and can be added back by doing the same ^^ also, items in the panel can be rearranged by draging them when the panel settings dialog is open
[20:18] <ecinx3> thanks
[20:19] <ecinx3> also does that calendar there have a way to get google calendar?
[20:20] <maco> the one in kontact?
[20:20] <ecinx3> the one with the clock in the bottom.. on the desktop panel
[20:20] <maco> you can install akonadi-kde-resource-googledata to be able to add google calendar & contacts
[20:20] <maco> oh hmm
[20:20] <james147> ecinx3: yes and no... last I checked it was possible to sync akondi with google calendar (after installed a package that i forget the name of) but from what i could see it dident sync changed back to google very well
[20:21] <james147> ^^ that was the one :)
[20:21] <ecinx3> oh
[20:21] <james147> ^^ and I havnt tried it in a while so it has probally improved since i last tried
[20:21] <maco> i dont think the panel calendar shows whats in your akonadi calendar at all
[20:21] <ecinx3> nm.. i know gogole calendar is flaky with a lot of apps
[20:21] <maco> james147: yes it can write changes back
[20:21] <ecinx3> only thing that really works is outlook and lightning
[20:21] <kerloi> Hi all. I'm a new kubuntu user and I'm facing a problem. I try to use my microphone but I'm not able to see the chanel in the kmix windows. I tried to find some information about that but without succes until now.
[20:21] <james147> maco: thats good to know :)
[20:22] <maco> akonadi googledata can work with the primary calendar (the one with your name) read/write
[20:22] <maco> but unfortunately ONLY that one calendar is exposed as far as i can tell
[20:22] <maco> so all  your other calendars, you have to add as remote .ics files, and then that means they're read-only
[20:22] <ecinx3> ^^ used to be the problem with windows mobile 6.x and microsoft exchange
[20:22] <ecinx3> lighting syncs with all
[20:23] <maco> i wonder how
[20:23] <maco> i was starting to get the impression from evolution's also only talking to the first calendar that google only allowed it for the first one
[20:23] <ecinx3> and last time i tried to do something i couldn't find the ical addresss.  of a calendar so new standard is google calendar not ical
[20:24] <maco> huh?
[20:24] <maco> google shows you the .ics address in the sharing settings for the calendar
[20:24] <maco> .ics (ical) is definitely still the standard format for calendar storage
[20:25] <ecinx3> it is
[20:25] <ecinx3> it's just that google is taking over
[20:27] <ecinx3> the calendar settings for sharing changed in google. i'm pretty sure it still exports ical, just that they changed the procedure in  getting that address
[20:27] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys has anyone else seen an issue when installing via usb with maverick that for some reason eventhough you tell it to install to the MBR it installs to the MBR of the usb device even though kubuntu was installed ot the hard drive
[20:28]  * james147 hasent noticed that
[21:11] <Corin> Hey, I was wondering something... why can't I remove the default desktop actvity in 10.10 or remove plasmoids via the 'add widgets' menu?
[21:17] <Snowhog> Corin: As to the 'default' desktop activity (Main), I'm thinking that it needs to exist. Others that you create can of course be removed. Just my guess.
[21:17] <Corin> Hmm
[21:20]  * james147 thourght that any activity could be removed as long as it wasent the last one
[21:21] <Snowhog> Corin: The 'add widgets' menu is just that - Add(ing) widgets - not removing them. Once a widget is installed, and you don't want it, just right-click on it and click the X.
[21:21] <Corin> What if the plasmoid is invisible?
[21:21] <Snowhog> Corin: In this case, which one?
[21:22] <Corin> It's called 'iHateTheCashew'
[21:22] <Corin> It's a plasmoid that removes the plasma icon on the top right corner. lol
[21:32] <Snowhog> Corin: If you want the Cashew back on your desktop, simply remove the "I HATE the cashew plasmoid" by clicking on the minus sign in the Add Widgets dialog.
[21:32] <Corin> Snowhog: That's what I'm saying!
[21:32] <Corin> There is no minus sign!
[21:32] <Corin> xD
[21:33] <james147> Snowhog: later version of kde got rid of that button ^^
[21:33] <james147> Corin: only way i know of would be to remove the enrty for it in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[21:34] <james147> (and restarting plasma-desktop
[21:35] <Snowhog> james147: That, or just switch to a different Desktop Theme and see if the 'minus' sign is then present. Not all Desktop Themes are created equal.
[21:35] <james147> Snowhog: ^^ possibly
[21:36] <bobboau> does anyone know how to set up a wireless access point, or even just to tell if my hardware is capable of supporting it? I don't even need a bridge I just want a wireless network connection that I can use to access a server (the machine with the wireless hardware on it) directly with.
[21:37] <james147> bobboau: you could try creating an ad-hoc network connection
[21:37] <Tsunami1> juus visi ir lohi
[21:38] <Tsunami1> vnk pidera6i
[21:38] <Tsunami1> :D
[21:38] <Snowhog> Tsunami1: English only here, please.
[21:38] <maco> !lv
[21:38] <Tsunami1> Nahuj?
[21:39] <bobboau> I've looked at that in the network management widget, but that looks like it is for connecting to an adhoc network, not setting one up, am I mistaken?
[21:39] <Tsunami1> a man pohuj
[21:39] <maco> Snowhog: we dont have a channel for latvians to send Tsunami1 to :-/
[21:40] <Snowhog> maco: No. And he appears not to understand English.
[21:40] <Tsunami1> a kaa tu zin ka es i no lv
[21:40] <maco> oh there is one.
[21:40] <maco> Tsunami1: #ubuntu-lv
[21:40] <maco> it has like 5 people
[21:40] <ecinx3> how do i upgrade to kde 4.6
[21:40] <Tsunami1> loti daudz
[21:42]  * james147 points ecinx3 to the channel topic :)
[21:42] <maco> Tsunami1: Tērzēšanai un atbalstu latviešu valodā, lūdzu, ierakstiet "/ join # Ubuntu-lv"
[21:43] <ecinx3> ive been readint that site
[21:43] <ecinx3> and went and updated some settings in kpackagekit
[21:43] <james147> ecinx3: its best not to use kpackagekit to upgrade to 4.6
[21:43] <Tsunami1> a nahuj lai es taa daritu?
[21:44] <ecinx3> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6
[21:44] <ecinx3> i was just going by that
[21:44] <ecinx3> and went there, but i still don't know whaat to do
[21:45] <Snowhog> ecinx3: This might help you: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3115541.msg254540#msg254540
[21:46] <ecinx3> thanks Snowhog
[21:46] <Tsunami1> juus visi ir lohi
[21:49] <Guest74228> hi, I want to buy some laptop within troubles with ubuntu
[21:50] <Guest74228> what of thes is better for that?
[21:50] <Guest74228> http://www.remateshp.mex.tl/tienda.html
[21:52] <Tsunami1> Da blje pidera6 aizveras
[21:53] <Snowhog> Tsunami1: Tērzēšanai un atbalstu latviešu valodā, lūdzu, ierakstiet "/ join # Ubuntu-lv" THIS IS AN ENGLISH ONLY CHANNEL. Please observe that.
[22:01] <rtdos> i have kde, gnome, fluxbox, and blackbox desktops installed: since i am not using the kdm to login to my system how do i use startx or xinit specify which desktop i want to use?
[22:12] <james147> rtdos: try: xinit /path/to/wm   (eg xinit startkde)
[22:15] <Goliath> where are kde login themes saved at?
[22:16] <ecinx3> how  do i fix font anti aliasing?? where it says configure anti allias seetings it says exclude range ... suse sub pixel rendering , but i don't know what are the settings I need. Is there a way to calibrate it?
[22:21] <Snowhog> Goliath: In /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/
[22:21] <Goliath> Snowhog: any idea how to modify a kde login theme
[22:21] <Goliath> to change its background?
[22:22] <Goliath> and splash screen
[22:29] <Goliath> again where are kdm themes saved at?
[22:33] <Goliath> at a kdm theme in an .xml it says: scalemode="crop". What would be the code for scaled&croped?
[22:34]  * james147 would think that is what "crop" does ...
[22:35] <rufsketch1> Hey everyone. I have a 7600GT. What driver do I need to get full OpenGL acceleration and compositing?
[22:36] <james147> rufsketch1: what ever is recomended by "Hardware drivers" (aka jockey-kde)
[22:38] <ecinx3> my fonts look like crap and I can't read off the screen :(
[22:38] <rufsketch1> james147: it doesn't list anything. And it also says no proprietary drivers are in use on this systm
[22:39] <otto1> hello there
[22:39] <otto1> anyone can recommend me a chat where i can ask about Ubuntu?
[22:40] <Snowhog> otto1: In #Ubuntu
[22:40] <ecinx3> lol
[22:40] <james147> rufsketch1: run "sudo apt-get update" then try it agian
[22:41]  * ecinx3 has a headache
[22:41] <ecinx3> does anyone knows about sopcast? or another way to watch the superbowl on my computer?
[22:42] <james147> !mythtv
[22:42] <ecinx3> I don't  want to look like an idiot at school tomorrow with all the super bowl talk. I don't have cable or an antenna
[22:42] <james147> ^^ then taht might not work :p
[22:43] <ecinx3> I had an antenna built in my old house
[22:43] <rufsketch1> james147: still nothing'
[22:43] <ecinx3> but i dont have the time to build it. . and i don't want to drive to campus and not get other hw done.. :(
[22:44] <ecinx3> I know in sopcast i can see it but it's been impossible to install
[22:44] <james147> rufsketch1: hmm, then install "nvidia-current" then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" << you might need to stop X to do that last one
[22:45] <rufsketch1> james147: it says nvidia current is already installed
[22:45] <rufsketch1> I'll do nvidia-xconfig
[22:46] <felipe_> ecinx3: you might try ##superbowl if you're interested, got streams and stuff too
[22:46] <ecinx3> thanks felipe_
[22:51] <felipe_> :)
[23:08] <Burpaps_> @btlogin | quassel@109.87.11.203
[23:20] <Goliath> how do i remove a kde activity?
[23:24] <rtdos> james147: is there a way to use xinit without it opening up a terminal after the desktop comes up?
[23:26] <flashdeluxe_> hi! I got problems with my notebook, i installed kubuntu 10.10 from scratch and my graphic doesn`t work properly.. at any website i have problesm if i scroll down because the pictures overlap, i am using an intel mobile 4 series chipset
[23:27] <flashdeluxe_> does anybody know a driver which works with that chipset?