=== Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [00:22] i'm trying to install lotus symphony but it's only available in the 32bit i386 version and i'm using the 64 bit version of kubuntu. how can i force the installation to go through (i already have it downloaded)? === Shaun___ is now known as Shaun [00:43] rtdos: sudo dpkg -i - -force-architecture yourpackagename === carlos is now known as Guest87603 === a is now known as Guest42065 [01:19] nevermind it got done [01:20] hello [01:33] kubuntu is missing something...the gtk-qt-engine...kubuntu has kde-config-gtk....thats a peace of crap...its not allowing gtk apps to use the kde themeing [01:33] thanks iulian_ [01:40] anyone here === jocelyn is now known as insmod [01:43] is there a way to set browser id in rekonq? [01:43] i need it for a web page - last year i used opera but this year it doesn't work with opera [01:45] browser iddoes't allow ID changes? === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [01:46] darkree: how do i do that [01:47] insmod: bleah I mean Opera doens't do Browser ID changes [01:48] darkree: it does but this year the page isn't allowing some functions === oliver is now known as smiffla [01:50] ah hmm [01:50] I dont think that Rekonq allows but konqueror does [01:51] ok === mren is now known as mren|off [02:12] darkree: doesn't work becouse it doesn't allow to specify https:// [02:55] FUCK LINUX [02:56] !ops [02:56] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger [02:59] darkree: gotit working thatnks [02:59] good grief [03:00] claydoh: you banned yofel [03:00] I don't think that is what you meant [03:00] indeed [03:01] but that was odd -- do particular words trigger the !ops signal? [03:01] no the troll triggered it himself [03:01] by issuing !ops [03:01] what a strange person [03:01] but pretty much what I would expect from a Yankees fan [03:01] lol [03:02] still, yofel is a good guy, and innocent in this case? === joel is now known as Guest69389 [03:02] tab fail i guess [03:02] yeah [03:02] I wonder if he was trying to get a list of ops [03:03] or test the ops' presence [03:03] I suspect he discovered from #ubuntu that calling that factoid pings a lot of people, and felt like being annoying. [03:03] he did the same thing a few minutes ago in #ubuntu also [03:03] oh, grand [03:03] nah, the trigger is noisy and that's what trolls like to do === don___ is now known as donjr [03:15] I am trying to get my wireless working. I have the broadcom 4311. ifconfig shows the wireless there, lspci shows it there, iwconfig shows it there. [03:15] When I try to iwconfig wlan0 essid "homeid" I get an error, set failed on device wlan0; Operation not permitted. [03:16] any other thoughts on how I might get the wireless working? [03:17] * james147 thinks you need to be root to do that [03:17] Sudo got the essid to show in iwconfig, but still says "Access Point: Not-Associated" [03:17] * james147 also think you will have better luck connecting if you stop network-manager first [03:27] hey has anyone in here used dumphd and give me some help? [03:35] so has wnyone used dumphd? [03:40] Webinator: What's that? [03:40] it a bluray decryptor to backup your blurays to your hdd [03:41] a KDE app, or what? [03:41] I've never heard of it [03:41] linux app [03:42] Webinator: try in ##linux? [03:42] i tried but got no answere [03:48] Okay, working with the broadcom 4311 on a fresh install of kubuntu 10.10 I can now hit the 'scan' button on the connection list and it will show me my home network, but still no net access. [03:48] Not sure what to try next [04:05] Okay, so I create a new connection, I scan and find my home network and click okay, now how do I tell it to connect? It still says "Last Used: Never" [04:08] hello, friends. [04:08] my kubuntu shows nothing, but black screen after installation [04:08] :( [04:08] i have Dell Inspiron 5010 [04:09] Donjr: remove this just klick on network name === mauricio is now known as Guest68008 === Guest68008 is now known as Guest69000 [04:12] i have just downloaded stable versions of kubuntu 10.10 DVD and CD. after installation, when I'm booting my notebook Dell Inspiron 5010, after logging-in it just shows black screen. [04:15] help me [04:16] ok, I know the answer ^_^ [04:17] you need to choose KDE from dropdown menu [04:30] how do I manually associate an ap with my wireless card please? === areichman is now known as notareich === notareich is now known as areichman [04:37] I tried to update KDE to 4.6 in ubuntu 10.10 with backports [04:37] but it gives lot of conflicts [04:37] dependency unresolved for notification-daemon kind of things [04:37] is that normal.. any ideas guys? [04:38] kalg: that wasn't normal when I did it, but I did it on a basically clean install [04:38] how old is your 10.10 install and do you have any previous versions of 4.6 installed? [04:38] so it is safe to go ahead [04:38] no [04:39] I installed it recently and then use kubuntu ppa to update to 4.5~ [04:39] then 4.6 came :) actually I should have wait for 4.6 [04:39] 10.10 came with 4.5, didn't it? [04:40] yes. I guess so.. but then 4.5.5 is the current release right? [04:41] something like that, yes, but that shouldn't have impacted 4.6 installing... [04:41] aptititude dist-upgrade is the command I used [04:42] it says I need to remove 7 packages and there is a dependecy unresolved [04:42] :( [04:42] dist-upgrade? When I did it I used kpackagekit [04:43] dist-upgrade seems to be safe earlier.. that's why I used it [04:43] Just enabled the repository with 4.6 and searched for updates. It took care of the rest [04:43] I'm not sure. There should be instructions for getting 4.6 on kubuntu news [04:44] kalg: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6 [04:44] those are the instructions I followed [04:44] I think kpackagekit won't show all the dependency problems [04:45] it's like using safe-upgrade and just upgrade [04:45] should google more about the difference first === novus is now known as neocontra === sean is now known as Guest58249 [04:53] ok it's about aptitude safe-upgrade and full-upgrade I guess [04:53] full-upgrade tries to upgrade every package while safe-upgrade tries to do a safe job [04:53] wonder what kpackagekit uses [04:54] I don't know but it worked well for me upgrading to 4.6 [04:55] then I should work for me too right.. upgrade my confidence :) [04:55] thanks areichman [04:56] no problem. If I'm around let me know if it works [04:56] ok.. I'm going to read a bit more before I do it [04:56] just to improve my confidence :) [05:08] does anyone know of a kde fxp client? === mauricio_ is now known as Guest690000 [05:12] DarkriftX: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=15343&forumpage=0&PHPSESSID=7dd1ad68138a74c9fda2b435e79cf4c3 [05:12] see if that does what you want. It says on the description that it supports fxp [05:13] nice, thanks [05:13] i wasnt finding anything googling "kubuntu fxp" but "kde fxp" seems to have found a few [05:13] guess i was being too specific [05:14] kftpgrabber seems to be a well known program for this sort of thing [05:15] yeah, gonna try it now [05:15] have fun [05:15] thanks [05:15] trying to xfer 2.7g from one hosting plan to another.... would be a long upload if i did it indirectly [05:23] where abouts would i ask for a particular patch to be committed to backports? [05:23] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264076 << namely that one [05:23] KDE bug 264076 in general "Plasma 4 6 crash on logout [terminate, __cxa_pure_virtual, QGraphicsItem::sceneBoundingRect, QGraphicsScene::itemsBoundingRect, , NotificationGroup::removeNotification] (Notifications/Extenders related)" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] [05:23] how do i move up a directory [05:24] and how do I make a new folder? [05:24] i'm sure google can answer those questions [05:24] Kalidarn: just wait for kde 4.6.1 [05:24] :( could be ages away Torch [05:24] Kalidarn: I'm sure too but that would take a lot more minutes than seconds here [05:25] you haven't been specific either ecinx so nobody can help you [05:25] do you mean ind dolphin, nautilus or terminal.... [05:25] term [05:25] wwhat nautilus? [05:25] then you should stop being lazy [05:25] and google for "make new folder in linux" [05:25] for basic questions like that [05:26] u can stop being an a-hole [05:26] just because it's easy for someone to answer doesn't mean you shouldn't do ANY research yourself. [05:26] i have other question that follow , and everything i do in google takes forever [05:26] what's your other question [05:27] how to write in the root of a drive [05:27] when i'm in / is not the drive i want to write too [05:27] to* [05:27] in general, you can right-click in the gui and choose make new folder [05:27] it needs to be mounted [05:28] so if it's a usb stick [05:28] valorie: I tried that [05:28] in the console, it's "makedir" [05:28] it will probably be in /media [05:28] it's mkdir [05:28] not makedir [05:28] oops, sorry [05:28] I can't see new folder [05:28] I'm lazy and use up-arrow too often [05:28] is it a usb stick? [05:28] what is it your trying to mount [05:28] in dolphin create new is grayed out [05:28] if your using kde it should automount [05:29] then you do not have privileges [05:29] or directory [05:30] Kalidarn: not a usb stick, I have a HDD with I don't know how many partitions. but one is for windows, linux, and the biggest one is where I have the /home [05:30] right, well if it's an external disk you want to mount it [05:30] I want to write in the biggest one [05:30] so make a directory in /mnt [05:30] then use mount /dev/sdXX and then to the mount point [05:30] it's just one HDD [05:30] google "how to mount drive" [05:31] it will explain it a lot easier than anyone in here can [05:31] https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+mount+hard+disk+linux&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= [05:31] omg so hard [05:31] it's mounted [05:31] it's the sameone /home is on [05:32] then navigate to where it is [05:32] use fdisk -l [05:32] you sure [05:32] rather df -h [05:32] /home is where your users keep their settings and personal data not where disks are mounted unless its mounted elsewhere [05:33] remember each partition needs to be mounted [05:33] one partition doesn't equal the whole disk [05:33] ok [05:34] let me go back one step [05:34] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mounting+partitions+linux :) [05:34] im sorry if that sounds rude but you could find a lot more concise information this way [05:34] on the left, where it says places it says 63.5 gib [05:34] yer [05:34] that's the complete device block [05:35] not the partition [05:35] it is a partion [05:35] ah k [05:35] i only have one HDD in this laptop [05:35] so it's auto mounted it [05:35] oh okay [05:35] yes [05:35] so just click on it. [05:36] i do, and i see two folders: ecinx and .directory [05:36] if everything is greyed out you do not have privs to write there for that user [05:36] yeah so it looks like a /home/ mountpoint with one user [05:36] hey guys - i have a question. don't know protocol - do i just ask away? [05:36] sure just ask [05:37] but if you could google it and find the first 100 pages dedicated to your answer then i'd try that first ;) [05:37] Kalidarn: what does that mean in laymans [05:37] it means thats where home is [05:37] if you had other users [05:37] they would appear in there [05:38] i just installed 10.10 and dont really know what im doing. I installed in a VM and got the guest add-on packages, but the resolution is only 1024. I am reading to try "sudo dexconf" to edit the display settings, but when I do that nothing pops up. No error message - just a return to the prompt in the terminal [05:38] yeah, i purposely partitioned it that way to separate data with programs [05:38] when i instaled kubuntu [05:38] devon: using vmware? [05:38] VirtualBox [05:38] if you've installed the guest package then you should be able to resize the screen and the resolution should automatically change [05:38] oh, i don't use virtualbox :) [05:39] know anything about why dexconf wouldnt come up? [05:39] ecinx: that makes little sense as programs are installed in /usr/share and /usr/local anyway [05:39] that partition will just contain documents, and configuration files [05:39] specific to your user [05:40] I don't remember what was my real plans.. but I know my docs in windows tends to be really big [05:40] especially with music and itunes university files [05:40] so its on a seperate partition [05:41] well either way what's the problem with that. [05:41] don't know [05:41] if you can't write to it from another user it's because you do not have privileges [05:41] thats what it would mean if new folder or whatever is greyed out in dolphin [05:41] if you type pwd in that directory [05:42] i assume it tells you /home/ecinx [05:42] yes [05:42] in the term [05:42] and i assume if you do "env |grep HOME=" [05:43] it will tell you /home/ecinx [05:43] or are you logged in as another user [05:44] HOME=/home/ecinx خبهبی [05:45] don't know how that happened , the next line is profilehome= in caps.. my capslock is turning to a differnt langauge [05:45] hmm [05:45] do locale [05:46] "locale" [05:46] should say your languages [05:46] anyway that means your privileges of your home directory look like they've changed [05:46] im surprised it lets you even login properly [05:46] sudo chmod -R u=+r+w+X,g=Xr,o=X ~/ [05:46] should correct that. [05:46] as it's the default [05:47] actually should be [05:48] sudo chmod -R u=+r+w+X,go=Xr ~/ [05:48] ie read write execute for opening directories for user [05:48] and only read and open directories for group and other [05:48] Permission denied [05:48] put sudo infront of it [05:48] it will then do it as super user [05:49] sudo isn't superuser? [05:49] it is [05:49] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sudo [05:51] don't know why it didnt' work [05:51] first time that happened [05:51] ill try a different terminal [05:51] that shouldn't make any difference [05:51] can you now write to ~/ [05:52] ie /home/ecinx [05:52] is the same as ~/ [05:52] its an abbreviation [05:52] i was always able to write to that folder in term [05:52] refresh dolphin [05:53] and any other application [05:53] but in dolphin it wasn't letting me make a folder [05:53] does it now? [05:54] i can make a new folder from home in dolphin [05:54] you should be able to make directories in ~/ with dolphin [05:54] yeah [05:54] but not in the root of 63.5 gb partition [05:55] did you check the mountpoint allows for that. [05:55] you may need to unmount home [05:55] and make that mount point have user access [05:55] then mount it [05:55] cos it probably says root:root and only write for root === kpkarl is now known as kpkarl_ [05:56] yep, it's only root [05:56] change that with chrgrp or chown [05:56] i was able to do sudo [05:56] yes because that elevates to superuser [05:56] not as user ecinx [05:56] sudo mkdir would work too [05:56] but if you do unmount /home [05:57] ^^ that's what i did [05:57] i'd sugguest shutting down kde first [05:57] ie by logging out [05:57] then doing control alt F1 [05:57] and doing /etc/init.d/kdm stop [05:57] ill just stay with the folder i created [05:57] before trying to change the privs of your home dir where .kde will reside [05:57] while kde is running it might cause a problem [05:58] because unmounting /home is going to not allow kde to write anything [05:58] chmod -R u=+r+w+X,go=Xr ~/ [05:58] do that? [05:58] if you can do it as a user in terminal [05:58] in the new fonder? [05:58] yeah [05:58] well in the new folder it will be ~/New Folder [05:58] or something like that [05:59] well in the new folder it will be ~/New\ Folder [06:01] home/sixtyfive$ sudo chmod -R u=+r+w+X,go=Xr /home/sixtyfive [06:01] sixtyfive is in the wrong place if that's supposed to be used by ecinx [06:02] it should be /home/ecinx/sixtyfive [06:02] otherwise i think sixtyfive is another user [06:02] you cannot write to /home/ as a user [06:02] okay === kpkarl_ is now known as kpkarl [06:02] you can only write to /home/ecinx if your logged in as ecinx [06:02] unless you've modified the privs [06:03] I guesss that partition is mounted as /home/ [06:03] and that's why it behaves that wway [06:06] areichman : I did update to 4.6 using apt-get dist-upgrade and it seems to work pretty well. Thanks.. [06:06] I'm planning on getting an SSD drive soon, Is there any specific way i should configure windows and kubuntu? and is there a particular format in which the drive, partitions should be formatted in? [06:06] thats because /home allows for other users [06:06] yes [06:06] there is [06:07] quite a few specific things you must do [06:07] kalg: I'm glad to hear it. Enjoy the upgrade. There are a lot of nice features in 4.6 [06:07] assuming it is a MLC drive [06:07] i run two ssds in my system [06:07] ecinx: http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/01/paragon-alignment-tool-increases-disk-performance-and-ssd-longevity/ [06:08] areichman: thanks for the support. should take a look at 4.6 feature now :) [06:08] http://www.johnlewis.ie/a-note-about-ssds-and-partition-alignment/ [06:08] this is a laptop [06:08] im not sure if TRIM works across partitions i doubt it would [06:08] so thats why i don't really recommend dual booting with ssd with one ssd [06:09] http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/157 [06:09] windows automatically aligns partitions [06:09] when you create them [06:09] well windows 7 does [06:09] Kalidarn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:09] ubuntu doesn't but its fairly easy to make sure they're aligned [06:09] i have win 7 Pro [06:10] http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?54379-Linux-Tips-tweaks-and-alignment&p=472998&viewfull=1#post472998 [06:10] I can run kubuntu on virtualization if need be, but it will have docked ram and i don't know what other consequences [06:10] also i'd get a disk by either intel or ocz [06:10] there's a tonne of shitty ones out there [06:11] that have crappy garbage collection algorithms [06:11] ^^ i was going to get kingston but then i was like nah [06:11] yer kingston are crappy [06:11] least they were in this atomic mpc review i read [06:11] im waiting for c400 to come out like everyone says in slickdeals [06:12] the sandforce ocz one i have atm is good [06:12] the intel ones have always been pretty good though expensive [06:12] i think cruical might be good too [06:12] yeah [06:12] those three.. intel being the most reliable [06:13] i know they specifically ragged on kingston though [06:13] they make good ram [06:13] but they suck ass at making ssds [06:13] http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/827391-Crucial-C400-SSD [06:14] ive found roughly to align partitions [06:14] you need to allow 1MB in between each partition as unpartitioned space [06:15] I know little about SSDs but read that the longetivity can be an issude [06:15] so the algorithms can be very important [06:15] http://pastebin.com/sH99FnhZ [06:15] like that [06:15] course if your using shitty windows [06:16] you can't have GPT [06:16] unless your motherboard has EFI [06:16] otherwise windows wont boot [06:16] Kalidarn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:16] GPT EFI? [06:16] windows can't boot from GPT if it's not an EFI system (so it's okay in a macbook) [06:16] Extensible Firmware Interface, basically the newer better replacement to BIOS [06:16] all macs have it [06:16] and a lot of server boards do [06:17] some consumer boards are coming out with UEFI soon [06:17] I don't think i have that [06:17] likely you do not [06:17] anyway with disks over 2TB [06:17] you cannot use MBR you need to use GPT [06:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table [06:18] all macs use that now too [06:18] I have a bios that has more options than a typical notebook but not EFI [06:18] instead of their old apple partition map [06:18] i expect microsoft will change over to it eventually there must be some problem with windows [06:18] not allowing them to do it for systems that they want to boot off [06:18] that don't have EFI [06:19] because for grub or anything else like freebsd it doesn't have issues with a fully GPT system [06:19] The GPT as of 2010 forms a subset of the UEFI specification. [06:19] microsoft will eventually change [06:19] i can't wait till windows 8 [06:19] they're probably hoping that everyone will be using UEFI then they wont bother having to make windows work with GPT [06:20] with BIOS [06:20] there must be some problem with BIOS and GPT working together on windows [06:20] more touch screen support [06:20] ive been using windows 7 but i still think kde 4.6 looks better :P [06:20] and is a lot better in terms of productive features [06:20] infact it beats both osx and windows on that [06:21] osx however i think is a lot more stable [06:21] im in different on how they look [06:21] i mean things like snapping and that [06:21] i'm on 4.6rc2 oxygen [06:21] are handy [06:21] windos by far is the least productive [06:21] *windows [06:21] it lacks things like expose and multiple desktop support out of the box [06:21] which both kde, gnome and osx have [06:22] don't know what expose is [06:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expos%C3%A9_(Mac_OS_X) [06:22] basically came out with leopard in 2007 [06:22] windows 7 just came out with a crummy ring switching alt tab [06:22] but windows has better touch supoort than the kubuntu i'm using and better tablet support [06:22] which is absolutely useless [06:22] oh for sure that doesn't surprise me [06:23] how do i configure kmail to hide email headers so that EMail looks neater [06:23] err it doesn't by default? [06:23] it just shows to, from subject [06:23] OH, yeah i like expose. I do it by accident .. don't know how to trigger it so i use alt tab [06:24] yer [06:24] and it sucks windows doesn't have it [06:24] as it's actually useful [06:24] and installing things like topdesk isn't the answer cos you don't have it when you move to a computer that doesn't have it installed that and it's not very nice on resources [06:24]