[00:56] <hopeless> hi. anybody an idea how to install lubuntu on harddisk ?
[00:57] <jmarsden> hopeless: Boot from the CD, and select the Install item from the menu... then click through a few GUI screens of the installer... are you having a specific issue?
[00:57] <hopeless> i installed it from cdrom to an usb stick. now i have lost the cd but still have the stick
[00:58] <hopeless> now i want it on my harddisk but this item "install" is gone.
[00:58] <jmarsden> How hard would it be to download the ISO and burn a new CD?  Do you have bandwidth issues that make that difficult?
[00:59] <hopeless> well its 2am here, no stores open, no free usb stick, and tomorrow i have to show it :)
[01:00] <hopeless> i know i am an idiot for looking the last cdrom *sogh*
[01:01] <hopeless> so theres no package or so that i can just install to get the "installer" back?
[01:02] <jmarsden> I don't know, I'll try to find out...
[01:02] <jmarsden> I'm booting Lubuntu in a virtual machine right now to see...
[01:02] <hopeless> thats very kind . thanks
[01:08] <jmarsden> Taking longer than it should, virtualbox is giving me fits... trying on a real machine instead.  I think that shortcut is just to a way of running ubiquity, the Ubutnu installer... if I can find out exactly what it does, you might be able to just type in that command to start the install process...
[01:09] <hopeless> oic
[01:09] <hopeless> thanks
[01:10] <jmarsden> That incon is not there on an already installed version of Lubuntu, so people do not accidentally install over the top of an already working copy... at least, I think that's why.
[01:11] <hopeless> makes sense to me :)
[01:11] <hopeless> but the tip with "ubiquity" was good. its not even installed. so that what i do now.
[01:16] <jmarsden> Right.  The icon in the live CD is a .desktop file... I think you can just run   ubiquity gtk_ui      once you have ubiquity installed.
[01:19] <hopeless> yup thats the plan. but everything painfull slow
[01:20] <hopeless> 92%wait ... load 6 ...
[01:20] <hopeless> i will report if it worked
[01:20] <jmarsden> OK :)
[01:30] <hopeless> hmm running for 5 mins but just giving a white screen. i'l wait
[01:30] <jmarsden> Seems long... but OK.
[01:32] <hopeless> this is an old p4 with 3ghz and 1gig ram...
[01:32] <hopeless> ...but the usb stick seems to be very slow
[01:32] <hopeless> yup now i got something on the screen.
[01:33] <hopeless> ok. i think from here i can go allone.
[01:33] <hopeless> thanks  a lot for the tip "ubiquity"... if you know what u are searching for things are a lot easyer :)
[01:34] <hopeless> good night
[01:34] <jmarsden> No problem!  Have fun with Lubuntu, ask again in here if you get stuck :)
[01:34] <hopeless> i will and again thanks. (u saved me :) )
[06:34] <Ciberglo> Could someone answer some doubts mine, about lubuntu? like, is it possible to run gedit on it ?
[06:36] <Ciberglo> Is it possible to run gedit on lubuntu just doing "sudo apt-get install gedit" ?
[06:49] <Ciberglo> Could anyone tell me if lubuntu supports Gedit ?
[06:49] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: you can install gedit. yes.
[06:49] <JoeMaverickSett> i tried it just now. :D
[06:49] <Ciberglo> just doing "sudo apt-get install gedit"?
[06:50] <JoeMaverickSett> yup
[06:50] <Ciberglo> nice to hear it
[06:50] <Ciberglo> i'm very excited to try out lubuntu
[06:50] <Ciberglo> at this moment, I'm using ubuntu
[06:50] <Ciberglo> but I'm sad with the ram used
[06:50] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: yeah, it's a great one. it's on my Vbox though.
[06:50] <Ciberglo> and I use really often virtual machines on virtualbox
[06:51] <Ciberglo> So, I realized I need a "light ram" distro
[06:51] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: lubuntu is pretty light.
[06:51] <Ciberglo> JoeMaverickSett: Have you always used Lubuntu? If not, what was your previous distro and why you changed?
[06:52] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: i'm using vanilla Ubuntu, but i test Lubuntu on Vbox every now and then
[06:52] <JoeMaverickSett> i was using Windows previously
[06:52] <Ciberglo> JoeMaverickSett: Nice to hear you swap to linux. But , what is vanilla Ubuntu ?
[06:53] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: it's the normal Ubuntu, using GNOME
[06:53] <Ciberglo> oh, ok
[06:53] <Ciberglo> Have you heard vbox released the 4. version?
[06:53] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: i'm using it. :D
[06:53] <Ciberglo> JoeMaverickSett nice one
[06:54] <Ciberglo> JoeMaverickSett: thank you to pay attention on my doubt. I was looking on google, but every result I found was teaching another thing and asking to open some text on gedit
[06:54] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: you could use leafpad instead.
[06:55] <JoeMaverickSett> it's the default text editor in lubuntu
[06:55] <JoeMaverickSett> i forgot to mention. :|
[06:55] <JoeMaverickSett> sorry
[06:56] <Ciberglo> JoeMaverickSett: nice to hear, but I'm looking for gedit because of it's plugins. That I use to program (develop)
[06:57] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: ah, okie. :)
[06:57] <Ciberglo> JoeMaverickSett: Because of it's plugins, gedit becomes almost like TextMate (Mac text editor, nice one to develop)
[06:57] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: any other support questions you might want to ask? otherwise we could hang out in #Lubuntu-offtopic. :)
[06:57] <JoeMaverickSett> Ciberglo: ah, i've that plugin on my gedit. :D
[06:57] <Ciberglo> JoeMaverickSett: Sorry, I forgot that. I'm going there
[07:21] <Kutakizukari> Just installed Lubuntu, like how it runs on my Compaq Presario V2000. I did have Ubuntu on it but it was a ram hog. Can Lubuntu get the software manager like Ubuntu has to pick from categories?
[07:30] <jmarsden> Kutakizukari: Synaptic doesn't work for you??
[07:31] <jmarsden> Kutakizukari: click on the bird button (lower left) then Preferences -> Synaptic Package Manager
[07:32] <Kutakizukari> jmarsden, yeah its working just wondering if the other could be installed.
[07:32] <jmarsden> You can install anything you want... but Synaptic can see the packages in sections too... Click on the Sections buton.
[07:34] <jmarsden> Kutakizukari: I think the one you are thinking of is called software-center   ... but installing it may pull in other GNOME libraries etc...
[07:35] <Kutakizukari> jmarsden, thank you, is there a website that is like the software-center for looking through software?
[07:36] <jmarsden> Kutakizukari: Not exactly, but maybe http://packages.ubuntu.com is close?
[07:36] <Kutakizukari> jmarsden, based on different categories
[07:36] <Kutakizukari> jmarsden, will check it out, thanks.
[07:36] <jmarsden> You're welcome.
[09:17] <Ciberglo> Hi all again.
[09:17] <Ciberglo> Is there a tutorial to build lxde from source on ubuntu ?
[18:25] <bioterror>  hi gilir
[18:27] <gilir> hi bioterror
[18:27] <bioterror> got your computer fixed? ;)
[18:28] <gilir> not yet :/
[18:53] <UndiFineD> gilir: what is broken ?
[21:19] <Kutakizukari> I accidentally deleted the icon that turns the computer on and off, how do I get it back?
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> On the bar below?
[21:25] <Kutakizukari> MrChrisDruif, yeah.
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> I would think (not sure and can't test it) but right click on the bar and go to properties (or "add to panel" if that's available) and search for it there...otherwise I wouldn't know...
[21:28]  * kristian-aalborg puts lubuntu on the "new" T40 now
[21:28] <MrChrisDruif> T40?
[21:28] <kristian-aalborg> Thinkpad anno 2003
[21:29] <kristian-aalborg> it had XP on when I got it, and actually ran well... I take it it should fly with Lubuntu
[21:31] <kristian-aalborg> I took 5 gb "aside" from another livecd
[21:33] <kristian-aalborg> hi hajour
[21:38] <kristian-aalborg> so, this is embarrasing.... can't remember how to auto-partition the remaining space
[21:48] <hajour> o/ kristian-aalborg
[21:50] <kristian-aalborg> the installer got lean
[21:52] <kristian-aalborg> fixing partitions when you pick username and such... that's rad
[21:52] <MrChrisDruif> Which USB installer would you recommend to create a bootable USB?
[21:52] <kristian-aalborg> unetbootin
[21:52] <kristian-aalborg> using it right now, as a matter of fact
[21:52] <MrChrisDruif> Want to put XBMC on a ION330...but the disk drive hasn't arrived yet :P
[21:52] <kristian-aalborg> this is for lubuntu, right?
[21:52] <MrChrisDruif> On (L)ubuntu?
[21:52] <kristian-aalborg> I mean, it is lubuntu you want to install?
[21:53] <bioterror> unetbootin failed me last week many times
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> No, I want to install XBMC
[21:53] <bioterror> I tried it with linux and windows
[21:53] <bioterror> I had to use Universal Usb Installer
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> And I've gotten similar experiences with unetbootin on ubuntu
[21:53] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: was the pen/device formatted to fat32 first?
[21:53] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, ofcourse
[21:53] <bioterror> and ext2 and ext3
[21:54] <MrChrisDruif> And startup disk creator?
[21:54] <kristian-aalborg> hmm... I've had mostly good experiences
[21:54] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, I used to have
[21:54] <bioterror> but not this time
[21:54] <bioterror> I got "Missing operating system"
[21:54] <kristian-aalborg> what was the iso? not all things work, I hear
[21:56] <kristian-aalborg> hmm... lubuntu said my machine was a T41 when it is a T40... should not matter much, I suppose?
[21:57] <MrChrisDruif> kristian-aalborg: You've been upgraded with Lubuntu ;)
[21:58] <kristian-aalborg> probably ;)
[21:58] <MrChrisDruif> But Universal USB Installer it is?
[21:58] <bioterror> that would be my choice
[21:59] <kristian-aalborg> never tried anything but unetbootin and dd
[21:59] <kristian-aalborg> the latter seems tricky to me, though
[21:59] <bioterror> I cant figure out why only Arch supports dd
[21:59] <kristian-aalborg> it's in *untu by default as well?
[22:00] <bioterror> nope
[22:00] <kristian-aalborg> it's in mint
[22:00] <MrChrisDruif> Is it also for Ubuntu?
[22:00] <bioterror> good for them
[22:01] <kristian-aalborg> I'll check when I have the lubuntu install running... pretty sure I used it in ubuntu
[22:01] <jmarsden> dd is in coreutils in Ubuntu, should be in Lubuntu also.  /bin/dd
[22:02] <bioterror> but still dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb wont boot up
[22:04] <bioterror> but I'm off to bed
[22:04] <bioterror> gotta be up in ̃~5hours
[22:05] <jmarsden> bioterror: Ah, so that's not "Ubuntu doesn't support dd", that's the ISO for Ubuntu not being bootable directly from USB.  Not an issue with dd at all.
[22:06] <kristian-aalborg> ok, so this is novel... when lubuntu starts, it has the ugliest halo ever around the logo
[22:06] <bioterror> yeah, well. Arch might be the only distribution which let's users to dd iso to usb stick
[22:07] <bioterror> and even bootup :D
[22:07] <kristian-aalborg> debian does as well, at least for some versions
[22:07] <kristian-aalborg> I actually thought unetbooting was more or less a GUI for dd
[22:07] <bioterror> no its not
[22:07] <bioterror> it does some bootloader changes
[22:08] <kristian-aalborg> appeareantly
[22:08] <bioterror> and it uses 7zip for extracting
[22:08] <kristian-aalborg> I thought it uzed lzha
[22:09] <kristian-aalborg> never researched much into those dark arts, though ;)
[22:24] <kristian-aalborg> is aptitude not in lubuntu by default?!
[22:24] <bioterror> no it's not
[22:24] <kristian-aalborg> why, if I may ask?
[22:25] <bioterror> I cant find why it's better than apt
[22:26] <kristian-aalborg> I don't know... some people say so, but I don't think I got an explanation
[22:26] <bioterror> exactly :)
[22:26] <bioterror> tomato, tomeito
[22:27] <kristian-aalborg> Kadaffi ;)
[22:31] <MrChrisDruif> Meh...tried unetbootin....it failed miserably :P
[22:32] <kristian-aalborg> bugger
[22:33] <bioterror> MrChrisDruif, suprised are:
[22:33] <bioterror> MrChrisDruif, and:
[22:33] <bioterror> MrChrisDruif, and even:
[22:33] <bioterror> :D
[22:33] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror: No, not really :D
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> I hoped against hope :P
[22:34] <kristian-aalborg> hurm... which services should I lose on startup?
[22:34] <MrChrisDruif> kristian-aalborg: All?
[22:34] <kristian-aalborg> cryptdisks? ntp?
[22:34] <kristian-aalborg> MrChrisDruif: that would probably speed things up, yes ;)
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, you'd think :D
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> Who needs the kernel anyway? ;)
[22:37] <kristian-aalborg> the new grub has commands for the HURD, I think
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, grub has some kind of support for the HURD...
[22:38] <MrChrisDruif> But you know what I mend, right? :P
[22:41] <kristian-aalborg> what you mend? A broken jar, perhaps? :P
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> kristian-aalborg: Spell-checker says that ment isn't good <_<"
[22:42] <MrChrisDruif> Just like atleast <_<"
[22:43] <kristian-aalborg> m-e-a-n-t
[22:43] <kristian-aalborg> ;)
[22:43] <MrChrisDruif> God :(
[22:43] <MrChrisDruif> :D
[22:43] <MrChrisDruif> You've made my day :D
[22:44] <MrChrisDruif> And "atleast"?
[22:44] <kristian-aalborg> at least
[22:46] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, always thought it was one word :P
[22:49] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: got any tweaks for the T40?
[22:50] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmmm...Start up disk creator made an Lubuntu start up instead of XBMC :P
[22:50] <bioterror> :D
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> I know you like it....but it's going to be a Media Center PC for my parents...I just want XMBC on it....maybe with OpenSSH etc :P
[22:53] <bioterror> install arch
[22:53] <bioterror> and put xbmc into .xinitrc
[22:57] <MrChrisDruif> I was trying to use XBMC's live cd thing :P
[22:57] <kristian-aalborg> Tromboon.ogg is kind of a mean file to get
[22:58] <kristian-aalborg> it's among the first files google list for "ogg sample"
[22:58] <MrChrisDruif> Tromboon.ogg?
[22:58] <MrChrisDruif> :-/
[22:59] <kristian-aalborg> yes
[22:59] <kristian-aalborg> it makes a hideous sound... I dl'd it to test and had full volume by accident
[22:59] <kristian-aalborg> sounds like a psychotic elephant in your room ;)
[23:00] <MrChrisDruif> But I like psychotic elephant's :D They calm my soul O:-)
[23:04] <kristian-aalborg> only when you smoke them ;)
[23:05] <MrChrisDruif> No, it's the sound for me :P