[00:16] <sagaci> morning
[01:30] <ikt> mornin sagaci 
[01:31] <sagaci> what's happening
[01:36] <ikt> not much :)
[01:37] <ikt> going to setup my mail server toda
[01:37] <ikt> then get back into python
[01:41] <ikt> you?
[01:43] <sagaci> don't really know yet, going to d/l squeeze when it's ready
[01:44] <sagaci> well, when it's mirrored on aarnet
[02:33] <ikt> sagaci, how long till it becomes available?
[02:33] <ikt> estimate?
[02:34] <sagaci> on aarnet? tomorrow or tuesday
[02:34] <ikt> ah nps
[02:44] <Phlosten_> !debian The official release announcement has just been sent! #squeeze is official now! :D
[02:45] <Phlosten_> their new website design looks funny...
[13:37] <scotty^> Is anybody else unable to boot Natty alpha 2?
[13:38] <scotty^> I'm using the 32 bit version, but that probably doesn't matter.
[13:38] <blahdeblah> I am, but that's probably because i haven't got it installed... ;-)
[13:39] <scotty^> You're using the LiveCD too?
[13:39] <ikt> scotty^, yeah
[13:39] <ikt> what issue are you having?
[13:39] <scotty^> crash before login screen
[13:40] <ikt> after you've installed or before it even loads up the try ubuntu vs install ubuntu screen?
[13:41] <blahdeblah> I haven't even downloaded it.  So it stands to reason i can't boot it.  ;-)
[13:41] <scotty^> oops, I meant before it loads up the try ubuntu vs install ubuntu screen.  I forgot that there is no login screen on the LiveCD! :)
[13:41] <scotty^> lol blahdeblash
[13:42] <ikt> most likely this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/712082
[13:42] <ikt> hrm
[13:42] <ikt> !ubuntu
[13:42] <ikt> !ikt wooot!
[13:42] <ikt> !ikt
[13:42] <ikt> !info
[13:42] <ikt> !ikt info
[13:45] <scotty^> My monitor has bad EDID.  It's always been a bit hit and miss booting or logging in on both Lucid and Maverick.  Booting with the monitor powered off helps but is still not 100% reliable.  And changing to a different resolution after logging in is a bit hit and miss too, particularly on Maverick.  Often causes a crash.  But I don't think that is what is happening here as the crash occurs much earlier in the boot process.
[13:46] <ikt> yeah
[13:46] <scotty^> And I caught some rapidly scrolling msg about sys\devices\pci......\usb....... on repeated attempts
[13:46] <ikt> imo give virtualbox a go
[13:46] <scotty^> (on Natty)
[13:47] <scotty^> and it was very slow
[13:48] <ikt> probably a bug
[13:48] <ikt> natty is really quite buggy atm
[13:48] <ikt> which is fun for me :D but not so much other people :s
[13:50] <scotty^> Removing my USB flash drive and then booting Natty with the monitor powered off and waiting for a long time and then powering on the monitor showed a different set of kernel messages, with the last one being about kernel thread helper.  Then it was just stuck - I couldn't even CTRL-ALT-DEL, which did work on during the rapidly scrolling msg about sys\devices\pci......\usb.......
[13:50] <scotty^> Anyway I'll check bug 712082 - thanks for the link