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grunthusHi, I've been working on my first patch, LP: #706271.00:33
grunthusReading about the sponsorship process, I think that I should now send email to ubuntu-sponsors?00:33
ari-tczewgrunthus: on IRC would be nice to use bug 70627100:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 706271 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "synaptic network proxy preferences doesn't capitalize "internet"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70627100:33
ari-tczewgrunthus: nope, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to bug00:34
grunthusah. Hi ari-tczew, you helped with this last week. I have added a patch for Natty. Took me a while, between work commitments!00:34
ari-tczewor set ubuntu-sponsors as branch merge reviewer if you use bzr instead debdiff00:34
grunthusI used debdiff00:34
ari-tczewthen subscribe to bu00:35
ari-tczewg00:35
ari-tczewgrunthus: Thank you very much, your work is appreciated! ;-)00:36
grunthusGreat!00:37
grunthusari-tczew: The wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Patches says to sponsor a debdiff, subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors to the bug, which I think is what you are saying. Erm, not sure how to do that.00:41
ari-tczewgrunthus: log in to launchpad, go to bug 706271 and on the right side you have field Subscribers, do you see?00:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 706271 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "synaptic network proxy preferences doesn't capitalize "internet"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70627100:43
grunthusAh yes, so it is already subscribed by Ubuntu Review Team and I don't have to do anything.00:50
ari-tczewgrunthus: You have to subscribe ubuntu-sponsors.00:50
grunthusRight! Done.00:52
ari-tczewgrunthus: OK. now you have to wait patiently for response.00:59
c2tarunchrisccoulson: ping02:11
c2tarunchrisccoulson: whenever you get time, please look at bug 713023 I fixed all the errors you commented. Thank you.02:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 713023 in bibshelf (Ubuntu) "Newer Version Available" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71302302:13
micahgc2tarun: when you believe you're done, you should set it back to confirmed and (re)subscribe ubuntu-sponsors unless someone explicitly said they'd look at it for you02:19
micahgc2tarun: oh, and unassign yourself as well02:19
c2tarunmicahg: how to subscribe to ubuntu-sponsors?02:20
micahgc2tarun: subscribe someone else, search for ubuntu-sponsors02:20
c2tarunmicahg: there are three team for ubuntu-sponsors02:21
c2tarunmicahg: one is ubuntu-sponsors team02:21
c2tarunmicahg: second is ubuntu security sponsors team02:21
micahgc2tarun: Ubuntu Sponsors Team02:21
c2tarunmicahg: ok thanks :)02:22
c2tarunmicahg: by debian.tar.gz file how do ubuntu-sponsors member check that packing is proper or not? I mean is there any tool for that?02:25
micahgc2tarun: they compare it against the last version that was in the archive and verify the changes you made were proper02:27
c2tarunmicahg: how do they do that? by diff?02:28
micahgc2tarun: debdiff02:28
c2tarunmicahg: debdiff between both debian.tar.gz files?02:31
micahgc2tarun: no, between the .dsc files or source.changes files02:31
c2tarunmicahg: then why do we upload debian.tar.gz and not the .dsc files?02:32
micahgc2tarun: well, you could upload a debdiff, which is actually what the wiki suggests, it's just huge for new versions usually02:32
c2tarunmicahg: so what do you do of debian.tar.gz? do you build it again?02:34
micahgc2tarun: I generally use it to pull the latest upstream, build a source package, and compare02:34
c2tarunmicahg: I was trying to work on this bug 713492. I made changes to the changelog and was trying to build it, but I didn't got the debian.tar.gz, why so?02:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 713492 in ccscript (Ubuntu) "Newer Version Available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71349202:36
micahgc2tarun: you shouldn't subscribe sponsors until there's something to sponsor02:37
c2tarunmicahg: I didn't02:37
micahgit says you did02:37
micahgc2tarun: there's probably a diff.tar.gz since it's source format 1.002:38
c2tarunmicahg: I am extremely sorry, I have to do that for bibshelf bug and I did it for ccscript one :(02:38
micahgc2tarun: no worries02:38
c2tarunmicahg: how can i unsubscribe them?02:38
micahgc2tarun: you can't, I took care of it, if you subscribe accidentally, you can just ask here for it to be removed if it's going to be a while before you attach something02:39
micahgonly team members can unsubscribe a team02:40
c2tarunmicahg: sure, one more thing, in control file the standard version is 3.802:40
c2tarunmicahg: sure, one more thing, in control file the standard version is 3.8.302:40
c2tarunmicahg: should I change it to 3.9.1?02:40
micahgc2tarun: you have to verify that it's compliant with standards version 3.9.1 (assuming this is an Ubuntu only package)02:40
c2tarunmicahg: ya this as well, how can i check whether a package is in debian or not?02:41
micahgc2tarun: rmadison -uqa PKGNAME02:41
micahgc2tarun: if it's in Debian, we generally won't touch the standards version as it's an unnecessary diff02:42
c2tarunmicahg: I don't think this package is in debian as I am not getting anything on running 'rmadison -uqa ccsript-doc'02:43
micahgc2tarun: no, it's not02:44
c2tarunmicahg: ok, I didn't got diff.tar.gz but I got diff.gz, should I attach this with the bug?02:44
micahgc2tarun: if you want to check if it's up to the new standards version, you can install the debian-policy package and check this file /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz02:44
micahgc2tarun: well, a tar'd version of the debian dir or a debdiff is preferable02:45
c2tarunI didn't have that package installed, what is the name of that debian-policy package?02:45
micahgc2tarun: debian-policy02:46
c2tarunmicahg: ok, and i'll take the debdiff of both the .dsc files and attach that. will it be fine?02:46
micahgc2tarun: also, attaching a debian dir to a bug is assuming that you make no changes outside of the debian dir to the source02:46
micahgc2tarun: yes, that will be fine02:47
c2tarunthanks :)02:47
micahgc2tarun: thank you02:47
c2tarunmicahg: wow... debdiff is huge. I uploaded the debdiff file, can you please take a look.02:51
micahgc2tarun: in a bit02:53
c2tarunmicahg: thanks :)02:53
YankeesFan!ops03:45
ubottuHelp! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, fbond, mneptok, gnomefreak, Seveas, dholbach, elkbuntu, PriceChild, or jpds!03:45
micahgYankeesFan: is there a problem?03:45
YankeesFanBAN ME03:46
jmarsdenmicahg: He's doing that on multiple channels...03:46
paultagfucking yankees03:53
paultagOh jesus, this is -motu03:53
paultagI totally thought this was -us-ma03:53
paultagsorry everyone03:53
YankeesFan!ops05:17
ubottuHelp! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, fbond, mneptok, gnomefreak, Seveas, dholbach, elkbuntu, PriceChild, or jpds!05:17
YankeesFan!staff05:17
ubottuhey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :)05:17
c2tarunmicahg: I am trying to work packages in list http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/uehs/maintainer.php?package=moserial  should we pack only those applications of which we know about the source code?06:02
micahgc2tarun: what do you mean know about the source code?06:03
c2tarunmicahg: I mean know how the application is programmed, its logic, algorithms and all.06:05
micahgc2tarun: not required06:06
macogenerally an interest in the package is a good thing06:06
macoas we dont want to just have people package things then disappear and not take care of them down the line06:06
macobut there's lots of devs who arent programmers. just being ready & willing to talk to upstream authors to get things resolved is enough06:07
c2tarunmaco: we can communicate with upstream if required?06:07
macocan and SHOULD06:08
macomaintaining a good relationship with upstream is important06:08
c2tarunmaco: ya :)06:08
sagaciif you don't communicate with upstream, you're creating an unnecessary barrier which is usually to the detriment of the package06:47
c2tarunmicahg: u there? sorry I got disconnected.07:41
c2tarunthere is a package of name freeimage in debian. That package is not in ubuntu + the version in debian is also old, upstream has a newer version. what should i do?10:38
DktrKranzc2tarun: package is orphaned in Debian, that means you can pick it up and maintain it10:39
DktrKranzotherwise, you can arrange for a one-shot QA upload to package new upstream release10:40
c2tarunDktrKranz: what is a one-shot QA upload?10:59
c2tarunDktrKranz: and how can i pick it for maintainance?11:02
tumbleweedc2tarun: a QA upload is an upload to an orphaned package, without any intent to maintain it into the future11:05
tumbleweedc2tarun: anyone can adopt orphaned packages11:05
c2taruntumbleweed: how?11:11
tumbleweedc2tarun: http://debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#adopting11:11
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udienztumbleweed, if i want to maintain a packages i must sending emails to debian-mentors?11:37
tumbleweedudienz: mail debian-mentors if you want review / sponsorship. Is this a new package? orphaned package?11:40
udienztumbleweed, orphaned packages named pdnsd11:41
udienzthis packages usually sync from debian11:42
udienzbut it's orphaned and upstream released new version11:42
grunthusBug 692879. If I install ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu in a Natty vm, how do I run it to confirm the bug?11:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 692879 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Refers to Open Office, not LibreOffice" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69287911:44
tumbleweedudienz: aah I see you've already announced intention to adopt and have it in collab-maint. Great. Yeah, go through debian-mentors for sponsorship11:46
tumbleweedgrunthus: there's a README that shows how to test it11:50
udienztumbleweed, http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=pdnsd i will send an emails to debian-mentors11:52
udienztumbleweed, if old patches files need updated, Author field must be changed or not?11:59
tumbleweedudienz: no. Although you can add yourself if you made significant updates12:00
Raydiationaccording to FHS where would you store databases?12:22
Raydiationfor a webapp12:22
tumbleweed/var/lib/$package12:22
Raydiationtumbleweed: ty12:23
c2tarunI was working on packaging of schedio bug 710347. There was an issue that the source tarball doesn't include the COPYING file for license. I mailed them to update a tarball almost a week ago, but I didn't got any response from the upstream. What should I do?12:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 710347 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] schedio" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71034712:23
tumbleweedc2tarun: I guess you could repack it including COPYING. However, many files don't have any copyright / licence statement at all.12:36
c2taruntumbleweed: ok, where can I get the copying file for GPL version 3?12:39
tumbleweedc2tarun: it's one of the ones you'd find in common-licences12:39
c2taruntumbleweed: ok, and regarding adoption of any package, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=585421 this package is up for adoption. In order to adopt it I should mail the one who reported this bug?12:41
tumbleweedc2tarun: take ownership of the bug, retitle it to be an ITA, and state your attempt to adopt12:44
c2taruntumbleweed: how to take the ownership? there is no button or link for that.12:45
tumbleweedc2tarun: the debian BTS is entirely e-mail driven. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control12:46
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c2tarunwhat kind of version number is this:  (1.1.8-2build1)13:53
RhondaIs this a trick question?13:54
Rhondabuild means that it got rebuilt, potential because of some library linking or similar13:55
c2tarunRhonda: nope I found this in spyder's debian changelog13:55
RhondaCan you describe better what puzzles you about it?13:55
c2tarunRhonda: I was working on bug 64513813:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 645138 in spyder (Ubuntu) "update Spyder to Version 2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64513813:56
Rhondac2tarun: The changelog gives the hint.13:56
Rhondac2tarun: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/s/spyder/spyder_1.1.8-2build1/changelog13:56
Rhonda  * Rebuild with python 2.7 as the python default.13:57
c2tarunRhonda: actually never saw this 2build1 always packed only 2ubuntu1 or similar to that.13:57
Rhondaubuntu means there are changes involved. build means no changes to source.13:57
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c2tarunRhonda: ok, so numbers preceding and following 'build' have the same meaning as they have in <no>ubuntu<no>?13:58
RhondaYes.13:58
RhondaThe 2 is the Debian-Revision, and the 1 is the number of the rebuild.13:58
c2tarunRhonda: thanks :)14:00
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hakermania1What's the most right way to call lintian in order to display even the most little error/warning about your package?17:08
paultaghakermania1: -iIE --pedantic17:10
paultaghakermania1: at least, that's how I use it17:10
hakermania1paultag: Thanks, anybody else?17:11
iulianhakermania1: The manual page.17:11
paultaghakermania1: `man lintian' might help17:11
paultagiulian++17:11
hakermania1Ok, thanks, I know, but I though that some experienced guys should know better.17:12
paultaghakermania1: what I gave you is correct17:12
paultaghakermania1: I just suggesting that others might use other flags, but that shows X, I, W, E, and P tags17:12
hakermania1paultag: OK, I am happy to see that still my package has no errors.17:12
paultaghakermania1: --show-overrides  is nice, too17:13
hakermania1paultag: Hehe, nice, still nothing :)17:13
paultaghakermania1: then it looks good from lintian's perspective :)17:13
paultaghakermania1: remember to build it an run it on the .changes file17:14
paultaghakermania1: or do both the deb and the .dsc by hand17:14
hakermania1paultag: I place *deb *changes *dsc after setting the flags..17:14
paultagOK17:15
Raydiationas for the copyright file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333136/ i use oxygen icons (bsd i guess), jquery and soundmanager (bsd) in my softwarepackage. do i have to add anything to the copyrights file and if where?17:25
paultagRaydiation: you should consider DEP317:26
Raydiationdep3?17:26
tumbleweedhe means dep5 http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/17:26
grunthus tumbleweed> grunthus: there's a README that shows how to test it17:26
Raydiationty17:27
grunthus^thanks (Re: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu bug 692879)17:27
ubottuUbuntu bug 692879 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Refers to Open Office, not LibreOffice" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69287917:27
Raydiationhm is that copyright file fine: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333209/19:27
Raydiationi didnt get any error while running lintian19:27
Raydiationcan i ignore: executable-not-elf-or-script19:39
Raydiationi mean: W: laudio: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/laudio/src/scrobbler.py19:40
Raydiationdh_fixperms doesnt correct the problem20:03
ElbrusRaydiation: you should fill in <VERSIONED_FORMAT_URL>20:05
Elbruslicense of first part should be GPL-3+20:06
RaydiationElbrus: what is version_format_url?20:07
Elbruse.g. : http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/20:07
Elbrusor http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?op=file&rev=REVISION20:08
RaydiationElbrus: aah20:08
Elbrusnot sure, but I think you should also join paragraphs in your license text with a single dot20:08
ElbrusI think the statement "All rights reserved." on line 26 is not located right and probably doesn't match the license (BSD)20:10
Elbrusline 57 should also mention the second license20:10
Elbrus(MIT)20:11
Elbrusconsider adding a stand alone section for the GPL-3 or MIT license (you then don't need to repeat it)20:11
Elbrusline 105 should not mention GPL without version20:12
Raydiationlike On Debian GNU/Linux systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public License 3 can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'.20:13
Raydiation?20:13
Raydiationah ok :D20:15
Raydiationfound another paragraph above20:15
Elbrusexact: it should be a versioned GPL link20:16
RaydiationElbrus: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333226/20:17
Raydiationdapal: ive found a way to restart apache without killing requests: http://www.electrictoolbox.com/article/apache/restart-apache/20:23
Raydiation/usr/sbin/apachectl graceful20:23
Raydiationis that ok for me to run in the postint script?20:23
ElbrusRaydiation: line 7: GPL-3+20:23
RaydiationElbrus: ty20:23
Elbrusbetween line 11-12 add one space, a dot and a newline20:24
Elbrusidem between line 15-1620:24
Elbrusadd a space and dot on line 1820:24
RaydiationElbrus: like http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333232/20:25
Raydiation?20:25
dapalRaydiation: no20:25
dapalRaydiation: use the same snippet I gave you yesterday, and use "reload" instead of "restart"20:26
dapalthat should be the same20:26
Raydiationdapal: ty20:26
Raydiationdapal: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333234/20:27
ElbrusRaydiation: something like that, but it is better readable if you align the dot with the text (so add multiple spaces)20:27
dapalRaydiation: err.. line 41? dbus? :D20:27
Raydiationdapal: i copied it 1:1 from the chan :)20:27
dapalRaydiation: heh, probably I forgot to edit it :D20:28
Raydiationdapal: hehe i guess i have to replace it with apache220:28
dapalyup20:28
RaydiationElbrus: ah k20:28
RaydiationElbrus: like http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333236/20:31
Elbrusline 22 and 23 must be indented (I suggest the same amount as the paragraph above it)20:32
Elbrusline 30 to 53 must be indented20:33
Elbrusskip the second "Copyright" in all your "Copyright: Copyright " lines20:34
RaydiationElbrus: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333240/20:36
Raydiationdo i have to fix the executable-not-elf-or-script outputs from lintian? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333242/20:38
Raydiationand how? a-x or in general every user -x20:38
ElbrusRaydiation: line 59: License: GPL-3 or other20:40
Elbrusdon't indent line 79 and don't use MIT as license name20:41
Elbrusfrom the dep5 page: There are many versions of the MIT license. Please use Expat instead, when it matches.20:42
RaydiationElbrus: just GPL-3?20:42
Elbrusno20:42
ElbrusGPL-3 or other20:43
Elbrusdon't forget the word "or"20:43
Elbrusline 111 to 115 should also be converted to the proper style20:43
RaydiationElbrus: inserting a .?20:44
Raydiationah k20:44
Elbrusline 94 should mention the Qt exception20:45
Elbrusthe copyright statement in lines 95 to 99 don't mention a version of the GPL. please help upstream to clarify this issue. (it must be clear AFAICT)20:47
RaydiationElbrus: i copied it from the newest package in debian unstable20:48
Raydiationill see if i can get an older version20:48
RaydiationElbrus: hm, thats also the file in squeeze http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/doxygen/doxygen_1.7.1-2/doxygen.copyright20:48
Raydiationoops wrong package :P20:49
Raydiationthats the correct one http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/o/oxygen-icons/oxygen-icons_4.4.5-1/kde-icons-oxygen.copyright20:49
jmarsdenRaydiation: Getting technical issues wrong just causes bugs; getting legal info wrong can cause... lawsuits!  So be careful, go slowly, and get the copyright stuff 100% correct.20:51
ElbrusRaydiation: maybe I am wrong, or the issue was overlooked before (which doesn't make it right)20:52
* Elbrus leaves20:52
RaydiationElbrus: ty for your help20:56
Raydiationjmarsden: yeah, i just double checked all files and found 2 tiny files which ive forgotten21:04
Raydiationhow do i get my package into ubuntu?21:11
Raydiationshould i first get a repo on launchpad?21:11
Raydiationppa*21:12
jmarsdenRaydiation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16446/how-to-get-my-software-into-ubuntu21:14
Raydiationjmarsden: ty21:14
jmarsdenRaydiation: You're welcome21:14
Raydiationhow long does it take until uploaded packages show up in a ppa?23:17
RAOFIt depends.  It should be ≤ 15 minutes for the source packages to show up, then it depends on how busy the buildds are.23:25
Raydiationhm i got mixed uploads are not allowed error http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333349/23:28
Raydiationmaybe it complains about a flash player23:28
Raydiationwhose source is already included though23:28
Raydiationif anyone is interested, heres the deb: https://github.com/downloads/Raydiation/Laudio/laudio_0.4-beta5-1_all.deb23:29
Raydiationah, debuild -S23:37
RAOFRight.  No binary uploads allowed to Ubuntu :)23:38
Raydiationim new to debian packaging :)23:39
Raydiationwoohoo, accepted :)23:41
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