[00:00] <spydmobile> tgm4883: You sir, ROCK! Thanks very much, that did the trick :)
[00:07] <spydmobile> tgm4883: Thanks again.....
[15:30] <stanman246> hi, again a new mythbuntu install...... New try on a different machine. Im installing from the mythbuntu livecd, but want to upgrade to 0.24 immediately, how should i do that?
[15:33] <mrand1> !auto-builds
[15:33] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about auto-builds
[15:33] <mrand1> !autobuilds
[15:33] <Zinn> Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains. See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[15:33] <mrand1> stanman246: ^
[15:36] <stanman246> mrand1
[15:37] <stanman246> mrand1, O_o ... had everything running at last, then had a power failure which blew up my other pc......
[15:37] <mrand> gotta hate that
[15:38] <stanman246> kinda
[15:38] <stanman246> but now i've got me a celeron D 2,66 with 2gb's and a 250g sata ;-)
[15:39] <stanman246> some stupid workguy here decided he's drill a hole in an electric wire....
[15:39] <stanman246> *he'd
[15:39] <stanman246> think i'll get me a upc...
[15:39] <stanman246> *ups
[15:45] <stanman246> righto, so it's booted into mythbuntu. 1st thing is running the backend setup right?
[15:46] <stanman246> or first apt-get update / upgrade?
[15:50] <mrand> stanman246: no reason not to update/upgrade first
[15:53] <stanman246> ok.
[15:54] <stanman246> how do i upgrade to 0.24.1?
[15:55] <mrand> there is no 0.24.1 (yet).  Just 0.24.0=fixes
[15:55] <stanman246> oh, i thought i had 0.24.1 running...
[15:56] <stanman246> ah well... what's the best way to get to 0.24+fixes then?
[15:56] <mrand> !autobuilds | stanman246
[15:56] <Zinn> stanman246: Auto builds contain more recent bug fixes than the normal Ubuntu repository contains. See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.
[15:56] <stanman246> and: if i'd run ubuntu-desktop would that slow down the machine?
[15:57] <mrand> A celeron D is not the most powerful CPU... so perhaps.
[15:58] <stanman246> iaght, so xfce would be more wise
[15:58] <stanman246> i just need to do some desktop things on that machine, for the rest it will be serving other mythbuntu frontends, so the celeron D would be enough i think?
[16:04] <mrand> stanman246: well, you already have it, so might as well give it a try.  I have a lower-end core2 duo that does that same functionality without any trouble at all.  a single core would probably be maxed out though.
[16:06] <mrand> Not to mention that generation runs quite hot (meaning more electricity, as well as a bigger heatsink and possibly louder fan[s])
[16:11] <stanman246> we'll see what happens. For now i'm updating/upgrading ubuntu
[16:12] <stanman246> then i'm planning to install 0.24 with the autobuilds
[16:13] <mrand> are you planning to do high def video?
[16:14] <stanman246> no not yet
[16:14] <stanman246> i've got an analogue tv card (cinergy 400) with which i want to test
[16:15] <stanman246> and i'll be serving media to frontends, no hd capturing yet
[16:15] <stanman246> would be nice though, but i need additional hardware for that
[16:15] <mrand> ohhhhh, just a backend only?  You have a good chance that this will be powerful enough then.
[16:16] <stanman246> yeah, i thought so. First getting this box working (incl. frontend, so i know it all works) then the frontend machines all around the house
[16:16] <mrand> !zotac
[16:16] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about zotac
[16:17] <stanman246> if i'd kick in some hd hardware to save the digital streams of my provider, do i need much expensive additional gear?
[16:18] <mrand> capturing HD isn't the hard part... it's really just saving it to the drive (unless you want to transcode it to save space or change formats).
[16:18] <stanman246> but to save it, there doesn't have to be any encoding right?
[16:19] <stanman246> so a 'light' machine could do just that? (i thought / hoped)
[16:20] <mrand> correct.  capture devices all do the encoding (if necessary.  QAM and ATSC are both already encoded, so those types of capture devices have even less work to do).
[16:23] <stanman246> ah well i'll handle that when it comes to that. First i need to get it working with my 0.24+ frontend again.
[16:23] <stanman246> For now i must leave it in this stage, need to go now...
[16:24] <stanman246> thanks 4 all the info mrand and maybe 'till later
[16:24] <mrand> you're welcome.  have fun!
[19:13] <qwebirc51846> hi everyone
[19:14] <qwebirc51846> I'm a newcomer and am trying to run from the live cd. It starts without problem but then looks for a backend for some reason. I'm not running a backend and therefore canot start the frontend. Can anyone help?
[19:16] <qwebirc51846> I've also tried installing it within windows and although it does appear in the boot manager if I select it it fails to locad with some errors which I don't understand
[19:17] <qwebirc51846> !help
[19:17] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[19:17] <gregL> qwebirc51846, The live cd only works for the frontend..You must have a backend to connect...
[19:18] <qwebirc51846> oh
[19:19] <qwebirc51846> I don't get any frontend as I've said and I've also tried to install with problems
[19:20] <qwebirc51846> after installing it within windows, I do get the choice of either windows or myth
[19:20] <gregL> well I never have tried to install it on a windows machine,so I would be no help there..
[19:20] <qwebirc51846> but selecting myth gives errors
[19:20] <qwebirc51846> ok tks
[19:20] <gregL> Do you have capture cards?
[19:20] <qwebirc51846> yes
[19:21] <qwebirc51846> I'm running W7 MCE
[19:21] <qwebirc51846> which is gr8
[19:21] <qwebirc51846> but wanted to try myth
[19:21] <gregL> What cards
[19:21] <gregL> ??
[19:21] <qwebirc51846> Hauppage
[19:21] <qwebirc51846> PVR 500
[19:21] <gregL> should work..
[19:22] <gregL> Did you go the=roug the set up
[19:22] <gregL> through
[19:22] <qwebirc51846> lol
[19:22] <qwebirc51846> cannot get that far
[19:22] <gregL> fat fingers
[19:22] <qwebirc51846> all i get is  a desktop
[19:22] <qwebirc51846> which asks to connect to a backend
[19:22] <qwebirc51846> the installed version fails to start as described above
[19:23] <gregL> Have you used linux before?
[19:23] <qwebirc51846> very little
[19:23] <gregL> My suggestion would be to bring up a terminal window and type in mythtv-setup and see what happens...
[19:24] <gregL> got to run good luck,,,
[19:24] <qwebirc51846> cheers
[19:24] <qwebirc51846> don't like the fact that despite installing myth and seeing it in the boot menu it gives an error when loading
[23:36] <pcluser> Hello, is there a way to get myth to use my swap file? I re- partitioned, and it no longer uses swap becauser it is now sda5 instead of sda6
[23:46] <rhpot1991> pcluser: fix the uuid in your /etc/fstab
[23:50] <pcluser> rhpot1991, can i get it to use it without rebooting? also, I am weak on how to correct the uuid stuff, will look now.. thanks
[23:59] <rhpot1991> pcluser: edit it and you should just need to replace the old uuid with the new one
[23:59] <rhpot1991> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID
[23:59] <Zinn> [help.ubuntu.com] UsingUUID - Community Ubuntu Documentation