[00:38] <rww> fixed
[03:08] <Jordan_U> Who is claydoh (that just mistakenly kicked yofel from #kubuntu)? Do Ubuntu members have op powers in #kubuntu, or why is there an op in #kubuntu that's not here in #ubuntu-ops?
[03:09] <rww> a #kubuntu named op; no; because #ubuntu-ops is not an exhaustive container of core channel ops.
[03:09] <gpc> umm claydoh is a #kubuntu op, you can be a ubuntu member and be an op in a kubuntu channel.
[03:09] <rww> There are almost as many ops in #ubuntu alone as there are people in here, in fact ;)
[03:10] <Jordan_U> rww: Thanks, I don't know why I thought all core channel ops stayed here :)
[03:11] <Pici> they should be in here.
[03:11] <gpc> it is recommended but not compulsory iirc
[03:12] <rww> gpc scares off many of them.
[03:12] <gpc> I do
[03:12] <Pici> But theres some weirdness between IRC and differnt parts of the Ubuntu community.
[03:13] <rww> It's like how #ubuntu-irc theoretically has LoCo channel ops in it, but this is often not the case.
[03:13] <rww> (amongst other teams, obviously)
[03:43] <gpc> I think we have our next namespace ban candidate
[03:44] <rww> !cookie | Amaranth
[03:44] <rww> gpc: looks like they're doing an admirable job of getting that implemented themselves
[03:44] <Amaranth> Yeah, that's what my comments are saying too :)
[03:45] <bazhang> could we please get a kline for this fellow?
[03:45] <rww> @ignore YankeesFan
[03:45] <gpc> @ignore yankeesfan
[03:45] <rww> :<
[03:46] <gpc> in -kernel also
[03:48] <bazhang> using @ignore is not going to help out
[03:48] <gpc> @unignore yankeesfan
[03:48] <gpc> he quit
[03:49] <gpc> funny how soon as yankeesfan quit r00t4rd3d joined -kernel
[03:53] <bazhang> I see no connection.
[03:54] <gpc> why did he join that channel?
[03:54] <gpc> out of the blue
[03:54] <bazhang> who knows
[03:54] <gpc> could be a coincidence
[03:54] <bazhang> so why bother speculating
[03:54] <gpc> you're right
[03:59] <bazhang> anonboots bears watching
[04:00] <rww> anonboots is that person with the silly twitter account, isn't he?
[04:00] <bazhang> he's the one who was saying "waiting for N00b questions"
[04:01] <gpc> yes and I just banned someone for spamming the same link
[04:23] <bazhang> Leon_Kaiser bears watching
[05:16] <Hobbsee> (got it)
[05:18] <Hobbsee> !staff | greifer
[05:19] <nhandler> Hobbsee: By greifer, did you mean YankeesFan ?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> nhandler: yes
[06:33] <rww> ray24 PMed me asking to be unbanned. I said no and then paraphrased !appeals at them, so if they wander in here, that's why.
[06:36] <gpc> wow at BT
[06:36] <rww> although he has since informed me that he's banned from here
[06:36] <gpc> he is
[06:36] <gpc> with good reason
[06:36] <gpc> did you read BT?
[06:37] <rww> yes.
[06:37] <gpc> think I'll let Pic i decide when he wants to lift the ban here
[06:38] <rww> yeah, my reaction was along the lines of "oh well"
[09:52] <bazhang> Hobbes is asking very random questions, and continuing to poll. I've asked him to stop several times already. He was on earlier doing the same.
[10:58] <Jordan_U> As I understand it he wants to use Ubuntu so that he can pirate and install Windows...
[11:01] <Jordan_U> He hasn't explicitly stated so, but he's said that he needs Ubuntu to be able to install Windows, and he says he also needs a torrent app. I don't think there are any legal torrents for Windows install isos...
[11:02] <Jordan_U> And he specifically said he was "downloading Windows".
[11:45] <bazhang> hard to tell. he just seems to be polling at random; xubuntu vs. ubuntu, filesystems advantages/disadvantages et c etc
[11:50] <bazhang> ikonia, bipul` was jungli or not
[11:55] <ikonia> not %100, I believe so
[11:55] <ikonia> he also shows up as other banned nicknames in BT
[14:26] <far_> need help with locale cannot read charmap /usr/shatr/i18n no such file or dir
[17:12] <gpc> MikeAndPotatoes in #k is Hoober?
[17:13] <Tm_T> goober foober etc
[17:13] <Tm_T> yes
[17:14] <gpc> you may to remove him, he is kinda right about the app name but he will go on forever about it
[17:14] <Tm_T> yup, on it
[17:15] <Tm_T> bah, I'm slow apparently
[17:16] <Tm_T> was about to ask him kindly stay on topic or leave
[17:18] <gpc> sadly staying on topic for him is not an option, unless you mean the topic of whatever he feels like ranting about
[17:18] <gpc> somebody really should rename that app though
[17:18] <Tm_T> gpc: well, then I would have a clear reason to remove him, not that I wouldn't have earlier already
[17:20] <tsimpson> he's under some idea that changing your nick/ident/IP combination means you can not be banned and so can not be ban evading
[17:21] <tsimpson> and anything contrary to that assertion must be a lie and abusing the "technology" of IRC and the internet
[17:21] <gpc> he is under the impression his doctor is wrong and that he shouldn't take his meds
[17:22] <rww> tsimpson: reminds me of grexo >.<
[17:22] <gpc> Tm_T: I know you already know this but best thing is to ignore him and let staff quiet him when they get bored enough
[17:22] <Tm_T> gpc: ah, I already said what I was to say (:
[17:23] <Tm_T> as in, that's enough for me, him, and any bystander, rest is up to him
[17:23] <gpc> trying to play in a poker tourney and follow his rantings. I am not doing to good at either hehe
[17:24] <tsimpson> he made the mistake of setting off my highlight while i'm watching cartoons, never ends well ;)
[17:24] <gpc> haha
[17:26] <Tm_T> tsimpson: you should drop "TEcumseh" from your hilight list
[18:32]  * genii-around makes a pot of coffee
[18:35] <cakeIRC> may i have a listing of every place i am banned from currently
[18:45] <cakeIRC> whoa
[18:45] <cakeIRC> this can not be.
[18:45] <cakeIRC> how can two users, that are totally different be gone for exactly the same amount of time. 11 hours 32 minutes
[18:46] <gpc> cakeIRC: it is very difficult to give you a list
[18:46] <gpc> considering all the different nicks and ips you have been banned under
[18:46] <cakeIRC> gpc, are you not proficient in the language of python
[18:46] <cakeIRC> gpc, that is an insult.
[18:46] <gpc> cakeIRC: drop the attitude please
[18:46] <gpc> I am trying to help you here
[18:47] <gpc> the best advice I can give you is to email the ircc and I believe they can get that list to you.
[18:47] <jrib> cakeIRC: would be a good python exercise: write irc client, get #ubuntu* rooms, try to join, return bans
[18:48] <cakeIRC> gpc, nothing i have said deserved "drop your attitude". allow me to demonstrate. If you are proficient in python , write a script. That annoying but of yours surely was challenging.
[18:48] <cakeIRC> did you copy and paste the code or something
[18:48] <cakeIRC> come on i know this is can be done
[18:49] <cakeIRC> jrib!
[18:49] <cakeIRC> saves the day
[18:49] <cakeIRC> but yes i have these two users to handle
[18:49] <gpc> cakeIRC: I am not inclined to do that for you. I told you who to contact and they can take care of it.
[18:49] <Pici> I'd ask what python has to do with anything, but then I'd get a response that didn't make any sense.
[18:49] <cakeIRC> python is a decent language. you can get things done like what jrib described.
[18:50] <jrib> cakeIRC: so get to it :)
[18:50] <gpc> Now that we are done here and you have the answer to your question please part this channel
[18:50] <cakeIRC> one question per join? sure i will rejoin and then put up my second question that you overlooked
[18:50] <cakeIRC> hi
[18:51] <cakeIRC> how is it that two users can be gone for the same amount of idle time
[18:51] <gpc> same user
[18:51] <cakeIRC> that is unlikely yes?
[18:51] <tsimpson> cakeIRC: I don't see how that's relevant?
[18:51] <gpc> no
[18:51] <Pici> Hi.  Why does it matter and why do we care?
[18:51] <Pici> And above all, why is that relevant to us and this channel?
[18:51] <cakeIRC> if they are the same user then there is a big breach
[18:51] <gpc> no there isn't
[18:51] <cakeIRC> the first i have known  a long time and the second i met yesterday. in fact i came to them
[18:52] <cakeIRC> gpc, let me finish please
[18:52] <gpc> no
[18:52] <cakeIRC> no u. please let me finish
[18:52] <gpc> it is not relevant to this channel and what we do here
[18:52] <cakeIRC> your name is too short for me to not accidentally put on ignore.
[18:52] <gpc> go ahead
[18:52] <cakeIRC> let me finish and you will see the relevance
[18:52] <cakeIRC> ok
[18:52] <tsimpson> cakeIRC: I have already told you the process you should follow, now you should wait
[18:53] <gpc> cakeIRC: do you have me on ignore?
[18:53] <cakeIRC> tsimpson, i am waiting. this is question and answer time
[18:53] <cakeIRC> gpc, why would ignore myself
[18:53] <Pici> clearly not, but whatever.
[18:53] <cakeIRC> look who jumped the gun
[18:54] <cakeIRC> yes clearly, i think i should leave now. too much hate.
[18:54] <gpc> I am going to remove myself. I can't deal with this level of insanity
[18:54] <gpc> it's Superbowl yo! go enjoy the pre-pre-game/pre-game/game
[20:09] <rww> Am not sure why you bother with him. He's ban-evading in here; throw !appeals at him and then ban-remove him again.
[20:10] <rww> It's not like he's going to find his rocker and climb back on it any time soon.
[20:25] <gpc> but I spend so much time sanding and varnishing the rocker
[20:26] <gpc> it's a nice rocker
[20:36] <genii-around> ikonia: Is WinCamXP a known troll?
[20:36] <LinuxNoob> hello i got booted,.
[20:36] <ikonia> genii-around: no but he's behaving like it
[20:37] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: I've spoke to you before about the topic of #ubuntu
[20:37] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: you saw me clearly advise wincampXP the topic of the channel
[20:37] <genii-around> ikonia: Ah, OK
[20:37] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: you persisted to invite him to discuss his windowing system
[20:37] <LinuxNoob> i was going to have a private talk with him if he wanted to talk
[20:37] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: then you talk to him in private
[20:37] <LinuxNoob> i like hearing ideas
[20:37] <gpc> LinuxNoob: you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:37] <LinuxNoob> i was going to
[20:37] <gpc> he is there right now
[20:37] <ikonia> not perst in asking him in the channel
[20:38] <ikonia> persist
[20:38] <LinuxNoob> i like ubuntu better
[20:38] <LinuxNoob> i like tech help
[20:38] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: then stick to tech help
[20:38] <LinuxNoob> but if someone wants to vent their ideas, ill help em.
[20:38] <LinuxNoob> i love to tell my ideas to people, so i return the favor.
[20:38] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: no - you won't
[20:38] <LinuxNoob> :D
[20:39] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: the topic of the channel is ubuntu support only, do not encourage offtopic discussion in the hcannel
[20:39] <gpc> LinuxNoob: everything has it's place, idea sharing is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:39] <ikonia> LinuxNoob: if you want to contact them privatly, do so, but not in the channel
[20:39] <LinuxNoob> i talk to people in private messages most of the time, if i think i have a solution ill private mesage them.
[20:39] <ikonia> gpc: I'm being firm on this because this is not the first time this conversation has happened
[20:39] <gpc> ikonia: I understand
[20:39] <LinuxNoob> but i understand, i wont do it again
[20:40] <gpc> just want to make sure that LinuxNoob knows we do have a place for sharing ideas
[20:40] <LinuxNoob> im a noob at linux, thats why im in the tech support :D
[20:40] <ikonia> you've used that excuse before
[20:40] <LinuxNoob> 4th day of being on ubuntu,
[20:40] <Pici> eh? Why does that have to be an excuse?
[20:40] <ikonia> Please follow the guidelines of the channels you're in
[20:41] <LinuxNoob> i just help people with drivers, and when i think of a problem i ask help.
[20:41] <ikonia> becuase the last time this happened "I'm new at Linux" was the excuse
[20:41] <LinuxNoob> wont talk about non-ubuntu in #ubuntu, again, i understand what i did wrong, in the rules of the channel.
[20:41] <ikonia> thank you
[20:41] <LinuxNoob> may i rejoin.
[20:42] <ikonia> please do
[20:42] <LinuxNoob> thank you very much, and do not think of me as a bad person :)
[20:42] <ikonia> no-one does, don't worry
[20:42] <gpc> We don't and won't
[20:43] <LinuxNoob> roger, ill be leaving :D
[21:39] <maco> um we have a latvian in #kubuntu and no latvian factoi
[21:39] <maco> d
[21:39] <gpc> is there a latvian LoCo?
[21:39] <jrib> maco: try sending him to #ubuntu-lv
[21:40] <maco> oh wait there is a channel?
[21:40] <jrib> if you can't get the point across, ask in #ubuntu-lv if anyone wouldn't mind messaging him (and creating a factoid)
[21:40] <rww> It theoretically has five people in it, even!
[21:41] <maco> well one of the 5 is me, whoops
[21:41] <gpc> and me
[21:41] <jrib> heh
[21:41] <jrib> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LatvianTeam point him to the web pages and forums there?
[21:42] <rww> maco, gpc: Quick, Latvianize yourselves!
[21:42] <gpc> what do they speak in latvania
[21:42] <gpc> ?
[21:42] <rww> Latvian, presumably
[21:42] <maco> in latvia they speak latvian
[21:43] <maco> google translate surprisingly has it!
[21:43] <jrib> "It is now required that all school students learn Latvian, most schools also include English and either German or Russian in their curricula"
[21:44] <rww> In Soviet Latvia, Russian learns you!
[21:44] <gpc> it doesn't look all that different from russian
[21:44] <gpc> I don't speak Russian though
[21:44] <maco> google doesnt know what "nahuj" means
[21:45] <maco> it looks way different from russian to me
[21:45] <maco> (by which i mean "wow, i dont understand a word of that!")
[21:51] <jrib> maco: heh, not a good thing that "nahuj": http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=12620
[21:52] <maco> oh is it a russian swear?
[21:52] <maco> russian swears are *awful*
[21:53] <maco> oh boy
[21:53] <maco> i got a "how do you know im latvian?" PM and pointed out the hostname, then they said something i couldnt get google to translate
[21:55] <tonyyarusso> Latvian is part of a relatively archaic language family, with the only surviving relative being Lithuanian, and even between those they are not mutually intelligible.  It has no remotely useful tie to Russian other than back at the Proto-Indo-European or possibly Balto-Slavic historical level.
[21:55] <jrib> maco: you'll enjoy http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yetbbbe-support-a.html (russion swears and translations; nahuj is in there)
[21:59] <jrib> the phrases coming up on google with "nahuj" are hilarious...
[22:00] <maco> got someone in -lv to talk to tsunami about #kubuntu and they say he says he dindt understand
[22:00] <jrib> heh
[23:49] <bazhang> he appears to be ban evading in #ubuntu and in -ot
[23:57] <rww> new bans set
[23:59] <bazhang> nice , PM from ray24