[01:26] <vychune> anybody home?
[01:26] <cyberanger> nope
[01:26] <cyberanger> but I am here ;-)
[01:27] <cyberanger> what's up vychune
[01:27] <vychune> nothing watching anime on youtube again
[01:27] <vychune> sorry i missed the meet i was at work
[01:28] <cyberanger> happens
[01:29] <cyberanger> unfortunately, paying the internet bill is more important than using the internet for irc
[01:29] <vychune> lol
[01:30] <vychune> what are you up to?
[01:34] <chibihogoshino> cyberanger: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/AxVtfWWH4tw/Bill-Gates-Says-Anti-Vaccine-Effort-Kills-Children
[01:36] <cyberanger> vychune: not much, just a little work
[01:36] <vychune> oh ok
[01:36] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: well, he's either right or wrong
[01:36] <chibihogoshino> lol
[01:36] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:36] <cyberanger> unfortunately, both options involve risk of death
[01:37] <vychune> something to think about
[01:38] <cyberanger> Newton's laws of motion
[01:38] <cyberanger> law of unintended consequences
[01:39] <cyberanger> Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives
[01:39] <cyberanger> all three show how that fight is a huge mess
[01:41] <vychune> yep
[01:46] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[01:53] <vychune> you heard about bing stealing Google results ?
[01:55] <cyberanger> nope
[01:55] <cyberanger> I find it hard to steal information
[01:57] <vychune> lol
[02:02]  * cyberanger now catches the hockey game
[02:04] <cyberanger> and wow, my team is really killing today, against it's rival, who last two years won the championship
[02:04] <cyberanger> I expected this to be a losing game, a slaughter on ice
[02:14] <cyberanger> man, this is a sad game for the other team
[02:15] <cyberanger> gonna head offline for a bit
[02:44] <wrst> cyberanger: have you tried unity yet?
[02:50] <vychune> you have?
[02:52] <cyberanger> wrst: a little
[02:52] <wrst> alpha 2 has regressed a little for me
[02:54] <vychune> i cant get it to install (im trying 2d)
[02:59] <cyberanger> vychune: why 2D
[03:02] <vychune> i have a mesa card
[03:05] <wrst> ahh vychune that stinks
[03:05] <vychune> ikr
[03:09] <vychune> i cant get it to install
[03:10] <vychune> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10431993#post10431993
[03:13] <wrst> hmm vychune are you trying that on 10.10?
[03:14] <vychune> yes
[03:14] <vychune> xubuntu
[03:14] <wrst> are you installing unity 2d from a ppa?
[03:14] <wrst> or is it in the repos?
[03:15] <vychune> not sure
[03:16] <wrst> i'm betting 10.10 may not ever have the dependencies possibly?
[03:17] <vychune> oh
[03:17] <wrst> at least that's what the errors are about
[03:18] <vychune> yeah
[03:19] <wrst> vychune: http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-unity-2d-install.html
[03:20] <vychune> taking a look
[03:22] <vychune> hey a guy from another chan can use irc and torrent but cant sruf the net why not?
[03:25] <wrst> vychune: cyberanger will be better on this but probably something with his connection of course, i've had that same isue before
[03:25] <wrst> i don't really know what the deal was
[03:25] <vychune> aww mannn
[03:26] <wrst> but i had that at work and had to have them come out and do osomething
[03:47]  * cyberanger catches up to the chat
[03:47] <vychune> hey
[03:48] <cyberanger> vychune: it could be connection issue, irc is really low on bandwith
[03:49] <cyberanger> the torrenting bit complicates a little
[03:49] <cyberanger> who's his provider
[03:50] <vychune> idk but hes in Paris lol
[03:51] <cyberanger> and is he bittorrenting while on irc and trying to surfing
[03:51] <vychune> yes lol
[03:52] <cyberanger> not stopping torrenting or throttling himself
[03:53] <vychune> rephrase that for me lol
[03:54] <cyberanger> throttling himself, telling his client to hog his connection less
[03:54] <cyberanger> or in essense pausing it , surf the net
[03:54] <vychune> he said hes from egypt
[03:55] <vychune> lol
[03:55] <cyberanger> from egypt or paris
[03:55] <vychune> egypt
[03:55] <vychune> i got paris from a WHOIS
[03:55] <cyberanger> the isp firewalled him
[03:55] <cyberanger> and the rest of the country
[03:56] <cyberanger> censorship
[03:56] <vychune> then why can he irc?
[03:56] <cyberanger> irc is so oldschool, gets overlooked sometimes
[03:56] <vychune> and torrent?
[03:56] <cyberanger> or is just outside their goals
[03:57] <cyberanger> only firewalling port 80, facebook, youtube twitter
[03:58] <cyberanger> torrenting is a different set of ports, very random
[03:58] <vychune> oh
[03:58] <cyberanger> irc is 6667 or a few others
[03:59] <vychune> ok u learn something everyday
[03:59] <cyberanger> there's other explanations, but the end result seems to be censorship
[04:02] <vychune> this is what he just said
 everything is shut down
[04:02] <vychune> * Notify: Ananas is online (FreeNode).
 define everything
 banks gas stations everything
 wow
 I cann't get my salary
 i can't imagine that
 atm machines are destroyed
[04:06] <vychune> gtg
[04:06] <vychune> thanks guys
[04:49] <cyberanger> vychune: that's a place with dark times ahead
[04:49] <vychune> oh yes
[04:49] <cyberanger> the fact he has internet is an improvement
[04:49] <vychune> yep
[04:49] <vychune> or hes hacking
[04:50] <cyberanger> egypt was offline entirely
[04:50] <cyberanger> not much you can hack
[04:50] <cyberanger> but circumvent is possible
[04:51] <vychune> hmm
[18:05] <vychune> sssuuuuuuuuuuuuppper boooooooooooooooowl
[18:06]  * cyberanger gags a little, goes looking for a hockey game to ease his stomach
[18:10] <vychune> lol
[18:10] <vychune> i wish nashville didnt suck so much lol
[18:12] <cyberanger> I never said nashville
[18:13] <cyberanger> and actually the preds were real good recently, came close to the stanley cup
[18:13] <cyberanger> they got knocked out by either the red wings or the blackhawks, I forget which
[18:14] <cyberanger> then the red wings knocked out the blackhawks (one of my teams) and won their divison
[18:15] <cyberanger> (I got payback cause they lost to the penguins (another of my teams) and then the next year the blackhawks grabbed the championship too)
[18:15] <vychune> cool
[18:15] <vychune> and good for nashtown
[18:18] <cyberanger> shame memphis doesn't have a team
[18:18] <cyberanger> of course chattanooga has nothing
[18:18] <cyberanger> knoxville has a minor league at least
[18:18] <orias> http://www.acanac.com/Dear%20Acanac%20Customer.pdf
[18:20] <cyberanger> orias: ?
[18:22] <vychune> noone in memphis wants hockey
[18:22] <orias> a canadian isp is willing to fill your hard drive for you and ship it to you to bypass their new caps a nd usage based billing
[18:22] <orias> 0.0
[18:22] <vychune> thats why the kings left
[18:22] <cyberanger> oh, you've been following that too
[18:23] <vychune> internet around the world is going nuts
[18:23] <cyberanger> UBB, not a bad model when nothing else works, like satellite
[18:23] <cyberanger> but that's comparing it to nothing ;-)
[18:24] <cyberanger> vychune: canada is a legal issue, one I'm working with (against? idk, I'm with the people wanting it gone)
[18:24] <cyberanger> egypt is a political issue, china is too
[18:25] <cyberanger> cuba is policital, but also cost (due to our policits here)
[18:25] <vychune> havent heard about cuba
[18:25] <cyberanger> cuba is since day one, just like china
[18:26] <cyberanger> only we embargo everyone who could provide better service
[18:26] <cyberanger> so it's become a two tier system, cubanet and the www
[18:27] <vychune> oh wow
[18:27] <cyberanger> costs less for cubanet, since cuba's only access is a sprint vsat system (an exception in the embargo)
[18:27] <cyberanger> but they also filter and monitor cubanet and the internet
[18:28] <vychune> hmm ok
[18:28] <cyberanger> they being cuba
[18:29] <cyberanger> and for awhile google, facebook and twitter were blocking cuba
[18:29] <cyberanger> out of fear of the embargo
[18:29] <vychune> wtf
[18:29] <cyberanger> that seems resolved now
[18:30] <vychune> i can take facebook and twitter but i cant use google?!?!?
[18:30] <vychune> id be dying
[18:31] <vychune> lol
[18:31] <cyberanger> but if you look into historical details, the internet isn't really broken, just struggling to adapt and overcome issues that have plagued it from day one
[18:31] <cyberanger> the issue is it's standing out further than ever before
[18:33] <vychune> true true
[18:35] <cyberanger> and that highlights just how vulnurable intenet is
[18:35] <cyberanger> and other packet switched systems
[18:47] <vychune> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/fbn_super_bowl_never_missed
[20:10] <vychune> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oseH9dErZLM
[20:13] <techMiles> vychune: awesome
[20:13] <vychune> ikr
[22:55]  * wrst peeks before the superbowl
[22:55] <vychune> lol
[22:56] <wrst> i suspect things to get really quiet, except for cyberanger who thinks soccer is futball :P
[22:57] <cyberanger> wrst: that's not me mate
[22:57] <cyberanger> I'm hockey
[22:57] <wrst> ha ha i thought you were soccer guy too? that's pace_t_zulu sorry :)
[22:58] <cyberanger> (however soccer here is football everywhere else, and you don't thow a football, amarican idoim
[22:59] <cyberanger> was, got out a LONG time ago, everybody quit caring about the game itself, sportsmanship = /dev/null )
[23:01] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger its what makes us great throwing a football :)
[23:01]  * cyberanger rolls eyes
[23:01] <wrst> well i'm going to get natty to updating and go watch some football being thrown :)
[23:04] <vychune> lol
[23:06] <wrst> kernel update... this won't break anything ...
[23:06] <cyberanger> wrst: maybe your so called 'football' ;-)
[23:08] <vychune> HAHA
[23:11]  * cyberanger says in his best french accent (which for some unexpected reason, sounds just like his worst) "now go away before I taunt you a second time"
[23:14] <cyberanger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs
[23:14] <vychune> http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoseH9dErZLM&h=c7803
[23:20] <cyberanger> vychune: that's actually pretty good
[23:20] <vychune> yep it is
[23:23] <cyberanger> vychune: rarely do I bookmark links like that
[23:23] <cyberanger> but it made the cut
[23:24] <vychune> WOW lol