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onebitxajaxhi to all08:55
onebitxajaxhow can i add the repo to my ubuntu?08:55
onebitxajaxit give me error readerng https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/..... HTTP error 40408:56
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tjaaltonRAOF: hey, opinions on bug 652467 before I decline it?22:39
ubot4Launchpad bug 652467 in xorg (Ubuntu) "xerver-xorg-video-ati dependancies need changing (affects: 1) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65246722:39
tjaalton1) is not possible, -ati is just a wrapper22:39
tjaalton2) would mean (AIUI) bigger static mappings to the server, which is pointless22:40
tjaalton3) then reveals the true nature of the bug (micro-management), so it's just silly22:40
tjaaltonmach and r128 add 400kB to the install22:40
tjaaltonin total22:41
RAOFYeah.  I don't think that's worth doing.22:41
tjaaltonthanks, I'll close it as wontfix22:41
RAOFThat micro-management *is* possible, too - it just requries an xorg.conf22:43
tjaaltonyeah22:43
RAOFHm.  Is there any reason we shouldn't follow Debian in removing a bunch of unmaintained drivers from the archive?22:45
tjaaltonno22:45
tjaaltonthere was some talk about it on #debian-x earlier today22:45
tjaaltonI've yet to re-joing the ml so haven't been following what's going on there22:46
RAOFThe list of removed drivers is: xserver-xorg-video-v4l, xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd, xserver-xorg-video-nv, xserver-xorg-input-hyperpen, xserver-xorg-input-fpit, xserver-xorg-input-evtouch, xserver-xorg-input-citron22:48
tjaaltonall good to go22:49
RAOFI think the only one we might possibly want out of that is -nv.22:49
tjaalton:)22:49
RAOFHeh.  We're well ahead on -citron.22:49
tjaaltonright, I'm not quite uptodate on that, at some point nouveau didn't support all of -nv22:49
tjaaltonbut I guess the devices in question are either very rare or old, or both22:50
RAOFI think TNT and riva128 cards aren't supported by nouveau, and nv supports at least one of them.22:50
RAOFOf course, so does -vesa :)22:50
tjaaltonheh, right22:50
RAOFWe should also remove -gevdev, since the gestures stuff is in evdev now.22:50
RAOFAlso, it's uninstallable :)22:51
tjaaltonI've so much to catch on..22:51
tjaalton+up22:51
RAOF:)22:51
RAOFManaged to get all the adminy stuff out of the way yet?22:52
tjaaltonmost of it yeah22:52
tjaaltoni hope22:52
RAOFThere'll be some lingering tentacles :)22:53
tjaaltonI bet..22:53
RAOFtjaalton: Incidentally, are you subscribed to mesa-dev?  If so, have you seen my dricore patches appear there?23:37
RAOFThey seem to have made it to the mailing list archives, but I'd just like to be sure, given the lack of response.23:38
tjaaltonRAOF: when did you send them?23:41
tjaaltonI only have the archive since Jan 31st23:42
tjaaltonah got it23:42
tjaaltonv323:42
RAOFYeah, there it is.23:43
RAOFActually, that seems to have only been Thursday.  I thought it was longer.23:43
tjaaltondoesn't fedora have something similar? you could try poking ajax/airlied to review and ack23:43
RAOFFedora had something similar in the dim distant past.  I might start prodding soon, yeah.23:44
tjaaltonare gallium drivers smaller than the classic ones (one could assume so..)?23:45
RAOFThey're actually of comparable size.23:45
tjaaltonah, ok23:45
RAOFBut it's more of a pain to make a dricore for gallium.23:46
RAOFQuite a lot more of a pain, and we only install 2 gallium drivers.23:46
tjaaltonyeah now that I think of it the shared parts are probably built in the drivers?23:47
tjaaltonjust like before, only that the code is more modular23:48
tjaaltonor the functionality23:48
tjaaltonbah, too late to function myself :)23:48
RAOFmesa, and gallium even more, create a whole bunch of static libraries which the dri drivers link in.  That's why each DRI driver goes from ~3MiB to ~400KiB when you factor out dricore.23:48
tjaaltonyeah23:50
RAOFIf I wanted to be really invasive I could do better, but the patch as written is, I think, the sweetspot for time spent/size opimisation.23:50

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