[04:42] fp [04:42] good morning [05:44] good morning [05:46] I will never again buy a nokia, and it has all to do with the shit service they give, not the phone [06:09] nokia doesn't have a real presence in SA, they mostly defer you to Vodacom [11:35] afternoon all [11:36] hi Kilos [11:37] hiya deegee [11:42] alo [11:52] debian squeeze is old difficult (stable) ubuntu... can't imagine why I thought it would be a good idea to install it [11:52] hehe. hiya nlsthzn [11:53] Hey uncle... what is up? [11:53] been struggling for 6 days or so. pc crashed [11:54] tried a clean install of maverick and the world fell down [11:54] :( that sucks... [11:54] yeah. tell me about it [11:54] wow... maverick has been very stable for me to few times I installed it... natty however... phew.... [11:55] ithink it is in my bios that the prob appears on its own [11:55] maybe a bug got in there somehow [11:55] possible I guess... [11:55] after 5 days i left battery out all night and then started from scratch and here we are [11:57] tried clean installs many times. only 9.10 would go in and then when i tried maverick near the end of the updates it would crash again [11:57] wasted lotsa data [11:57] * Kilos cries [11:58] :( [11:59] Kilos: is this on the hard drive we told you was bad? [11:59] i tried 3 drives superfly . 6g 20g and 80g and all did the same [11:59] i am now on the 20g [12:00] i just need some help with the archives goodie please [12:00] Kilos: i think that should be a hardware problem. have you tried installing maverick alternative? [12:01] instead of the maverick desktop install cd... [12:01] with 9.10 using same commands i can clean install and then reverse the archives command and not download anything [12:01] maverick takes 110m every time [12:02] i dont have the altcd deegee_ [12:02] somewhere the latest linux headers and kernel are hiding and need to get them everytime from the net [12:03] also oo and all the cups stuff [12:03] Kilos: are you around pretoria perhaps? might burn you a copy [12:03] during the week [12:04] i am on the way to brits but can get it picked up from pretoria west [12:04] this is a genuine cd [12:04] pretty and all [12:04] from canonical [12:04] hehe [12:05] Kilos: well... seeing as I could with assistance to how it should be done I could put most of the repo's on disc for you and let the post office do the rest [12:05] Kilos: genuine or not, fact is; if it doesn't go well with your hardware it will give problems... [12:06] even after successful install from months ago deegee_ ?? [12:07] Kilos: you might need a hardware refresh.. [12:07] oh i also tried karmic and some others as well and all gave crap [12:07] Kilos: like the guy said when his horse fell over dead, "Strange, his never done that before" [12:07] hee hee hee [12:08] yes this is an old one that actually went flying out of a window before it was dumped and i got it [12:08] hehe [12:08] but now after the battery out over night this install went quick and clean [12:09] maybe a bios upgrade will sort the prob [12:09] but thats beyond me [12:09] i got a pII running 8.04.4 server at my office, doesn't like to upgrade to anything beyond that... [12:09] sounds more like motherboard or psu... but I am no hardware guru [12:10] i got a cd called [12:10] um [12:10] er [12:11] Kilos: are you sure it's not affected by the y2k bug? [12:11] UBCD [12:11] hehe [12:11] UBCD tests everything ram , cpu drives etc and said all was ok [12:12] y2k? wasnt that just a hoax [12:12] is that the latest UBCD? [12:12] heh... [12:12] about 6 months old [12:13] * deegee_ can't say much about UBCD [12:13] very involved for me to work out what all it can do [12:24] i use these 2 commands to save packages . how come it doesnt save the updated OO and linux headers etc as it does in 9.10 [12:24] sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives/* /media/storage/packs [12:24] sudo cp /media/storage/packs/* /var/cache/apt/archives [12:24] if i say the word chown superfly jumps on me [12:25] is there something i must add to get hidden files as well [12:42] * nlsthzn is going to try natty one last time... come on you silly alpha release piece of ... debian :p [12:42] lol [12:49] * nlsthzn is not sure why he does this to himself... [12:49] because you can [12:49] like the peeps that write virusses [13:04] Kilos: ah... makes sense... [17:27] Maaz, coffee on [17:27] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [17:27] Maaz, whats for supper [17:27] Steak , egg and chips. And a free Coke [17:31] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [17:32] Maaz, thanks alot [17:32] no worries, Kilos [17:32] good evening Kilos [17:33] hiya inetpro howzit [17:33] Kilos: hmm... ok I guess [17:34] * inetpro had an unavoidable crash this morning when a car swerved in front of us. [17:35] at least everyone is ok with just minor damage to cars [17:35] wow. sorry man [17:35] happy to hear everyone ok [17:37] terrible feeling of uselessness for being at the wrong point at the wrong time though [17:37] yeah [17:44] eish, inetpro, I'm glad you're OK [17:45] superfly: thanks [17:45] I've been in a couple, and I hate the feeling [17:48] I just wish there was software that could be used for simulating and documenting the event [17:49] I'm the worst when it comes to drawing it on paper [17:49] cell fone camera [17:50] Kilos: I took two snaps afterwards... should have taking more though [17:54] Kilos: when looking at the other car it's difficult to imagine that we were driving in the same direction when suddenly she decided to turn right at the green robot while I was coming from behind on her right hand side [17:56] eish [17:59] unfortunately my car just went skidding ahead when I applied the breaks... so much for a car without ABS breaks [17:59] if I had ABS I'm quite convinced that I would have avoided it [17:59] not maybe oil on the road as well [18:00] very possible [19:24] inetpro: actually there is software that the investigators use, saw it on a crime documentary, but they didn't name anything specific. they put in all the known data from the scene and it renders a 3d clip of the event from different angles [19:25] inetpro: you skidded because you slammed on breaks. if you'd gradually increased the pressure, but never hit 100% brakes, you would have slowed down in time [19:26] superfly: maybe [19:26] superfly: I tried [19:26] in the documentary they showed the sim of a utility vehicle clipping a girl on the pavement, ragdoll physics and all [19:26] inetpro: I've taken an advanced driving course - that works. [19:27] of course if you'd been going over the speed limit and not maintaining your following distance, nothing would have helped :-P [20:52] can someone tell me where to find this iso please. [20:52] http://slexy.org/view/s23GCFkHcp [20:52] can you only get to it via cli [20:53] i dunno how to open home to find it unless i go cli [20:54] and the temp file is gone because power tripped [20:56] it also says If you are a gui person, simply click on the "Remastersys Backup" icon in the System Menu and you can select which option you want to run. [20:56] i dont have that icon [20:56] * Kilos scratches noggin [20:59] sorry found it [20:59] kinda blind i be [20:59] must mak stuff bigger [20:59] make [20:59] see ya later