[00:00] <hobbes> Hi frotz
[00:00] <H3r0> DasEi - read that I am writing .I am using PPA ! Therefore, I use development version
[00:00] <H3r0> can someone help me?I don't know why the ppa of wine isn't update to the newest version of development
[00:00] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: did you get my latest paste?
[00:00] <mkanyicy> yes
[00:01] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | root__
[00:01] <thorbj0rn> H3r0: ask in #winehq
[00:01] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, there is something wrong with your source, or your system
[00:01] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, have you developed this qt software yourself or downloaded it?
[00:01] <H3r0> thorbj0rn - I asked and they tell me to ask here
[00:01] <DasEi> H3r0: I read that, ppa here, to , dev is version 1.3 dev, but haven't crosschecked with wine's homepage
[00:01] <Lcawte> I'm running ntp.d to manage my time... but it keeps falling 10 minutes out of sync.. (I've ntpdated to check it a few times).... my config... http://pastebin.com/c7Bb6832 (etc/ntp.conf) Any ideas how I can get it to stay in sync by like 30 seconds
[00:02] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: I downloaded it
[00:02] <StepNjump> It's a checkers game for my daughter
[00:02] <dimmortal> Ultimate Edition??
[00:02] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, have you installed all the qt sofware?
[00:02] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: Maverick 10.10 for netbook
[00:03] <amaurymedeiros> What is the current ubuntu's stable version?
[00:03] <StepNjump> mkanyicy what is the qt software? lol sorry I'm new to linux  (grin)
[00:03] <hobbes> How do I disable all those joining and leaving messages?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> dimmortal: It's a derivitive distribution that is anything but "ultimate".
[00:03] <dimmortal> lol
[00:03] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: I downloaded the software in a tar.gz package which I extracted to a folder
[00:03] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, but you need all libraries and compilers to be in place
[00:04] <lexvegas> amaurymedeiros: 10.10 or 10.10 for LTS
[00:04] <botcity> hobbes: unetbootin is the root app for putting iso's on usb
[00:04] <sontek> Anyone know what the best app for streaming movies/music to the 360 is?  I've found ushare and fuppes but both seem to have been discontinued
[00:04] <lexvegas> amaurymedeiros: 10.04 for LTS Sorry
[00:04] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, if your system is not properly configured then you are bound to get errors
[00:04] <Umeaboy> Can I search for users with a command somehow to see if he/she is online?
[00:04] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: The ncurses window »Configure grub-pc« states now (in my translation from German): "You have decided to not install GRUB on any device. If you proceed the boot loader might not be configured properly. ... Continue without installing Grub? Yes/No" and defaults to "No". I am perplexed. Should I continue by pressing "No"?
[00:04] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: the instructions were http://paste.ubuntu.com/563230/
[00:04] <Umeaboy> It takes a lot of time to look thru the whole list.
[00:05] <hobbes> Botcity: So you don't know of a way to put the ISO directly on the USB drive and have it bootable? I lack HDD space
[00:05] <StepNjump> mkanyicy! ahhhh ok... Well I thought all those libraries were included in the edition of Linux I downloaded
[00:05] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, I understand that
[00:05] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: debconf dialogs are a bit odd. You need to press space bar to select an install device, then hit enter to continue. Select "No" now and you will be brought back to the list.
[00:05] <Lcawte> I'm running ntp.d to manage my time... but it keeps falling 10 minutes out of sync.. (I've ntpdated to check it a few times).... my config... http://pastebin.com/c7Bb6832 (etc/ntp.conf) Any ideas how I can get it to stay in sync by like 30 seconds
[00:06] <botcity> !usb hobbes
[00:06] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, why do you want to install from source?
[00:06] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: so I need to download the compiler? Like I said, in /usr/bin there is no : gcc subdirectory found
[00:06] <botcity> !usb | hobbes
[00:06] <mkanyicy> mkanyicy, if you claim you are still new to linux?
[00:06] <adam_> need a tad of help. x crashed, and i dont know the command to manually edit xorg. im on ubuntu 9.10
[00:06] <mkanyicy> StepNjump,  if you claim you are still new to linux?
[00:06] <tgywa> can I run both php5.2 and php5.3 on Ubuntu 10.04
[00:06] <tgywa> ?
[00:06] <stevomanu> im trying to mount n90 on ubuntu10.10 but cant find it any idea how please
[00:07] <stevomanu> ment n900
[00:07] <adam_> command line edit xorg?
[00:07] <adam_> please assist me
[00:07] <botcity> hobbes: you can do it from a live cd!
[00:07] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: Because 1-I'd like to know how it's done to broaden my knowledge and 2- I looked in the repository and couldn't find any checkers game that my daughter could play off-line
[00:08] <hobbes> Botcity: I can't make a live CD, this PC lacks a burner
[00:08] <chris_osx> StepNjump: gnuchess
[00:08] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential qt3-dev-tools qt4-dev-tools' on terminal
[00:08] <stevomanu> im trying to make flashable image but can only do it on linux system
[00:08] <chris_osx> StepNjump: ah checkers sorry
[00:08] <species> hi
[00:08] <hobbes> Anyone, how do I disable all these joining and leaving messages in chat? They flood my screen making it hard to keep track of messages
[00:08] <StepNjump> chris_osx: Thanks for the chess game. I'm looking for checkers.. yes! I will download the gnuchess though. Thanks
[00:09] <species> can somebody please tell me what the <redacted> all this is, http://pastebin.com/XmJKeAET
[00:09] <chris_osx> StepNjump: kcheckers
[00:09] <lexvegas> hobbes: Do you use xchat?
[00:09] <StepNjump> Ok mkanyicy. Thanks I will try that
[00:09] <rww> hobbes: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[00:09] <adam_> help
[00:09] <StepNjump> Thanks Chris_osx
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: what client?
[00:10] <chris_osx> StepNjump: no problem
[00:10] <hobbes> I am using the browser webchat
[00:10] <david_brent> hi can anyobody tell me, how can i record master audio output ? or just audio output from the browser?
[00:10] <rww> hobbes: oh. never mind that link then. Click the blue box in the top left, then options, then "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS", then Save
[00:10] <crackheadjunky> need help with xorg
[00:11] <botcity> hobbes: you need to download the iso first to do a check sum of the image  (make sure the image is ok!)
[00:11] <lexvegas> hobbes: oh, sorty, i dont know then.  BUT to attempt to answer your question, you can download the .ISO to the jump drive and then run unetbootin assuming you have a big enough jump drive
[00:11] <crackheadjunky> x crashed,how do i edit the conf file?
[00:11] <hobbes> Ah, thats better
[00:12] <codichulo> mkanyicy: compiz-check gave me a message "no rendering method in use" ??? any idea?
[00:12] <mkanyicy> codichulo, pastebin everything not just that '
[00:12] <crackheadjunky> can someone tell me how to edit my xorg.conf file in command line?
[00:13] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: "Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version. Installation finished. No error reported. Generating grub.cfg. Found linuy image, initrd image, linux image, initrd image, memtest86+ image, Windows XP Media Center Edition on dev/sda1. done"
[00:13] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: how do you know that you need to edit that file if X was working fine prior?
[00:13] <frotzed> crackheadjunky: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:13] <hobbes> So can unibootin make a ISO thats already on the flash drive, bootable?
[00:13] <codichulo> Gathering information about your system...
[00:13] <crackheadjunky> thank you
[00:13] <codichulo>  Distribution:          Ubuntu 10.10
[00:13] <codichulo>  Desktop environment:   GNOME
[00:13] <codichulo>  Graphics chip:         Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[00:13] <codichulo>  Driver in use:         intel
[00:13] <FloodBot3> codichulo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <crackheadjunky> yes xcrashed
[00:13] <crackheadjunky> and i have to recover it and reconfigure it
[00:13] <crackheadjunky> cannot open display
[00:13] <crackheadjunky> is the error i am getting
[00:14] <UberNewbie> rww:  do you know how to do the same thing in xchat?
[00:14] <StepNjump> Chris_osx thank you very much. I installed both the chess and the checkers! my daughter will love it
[00:14] <Gnea> right, gedit is an X editor
[00:14] <rww> UberNewbie: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[00:14] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: you'll need to use a terminal-based editor
[00:14] <chris_osx> StepNjump: great
[00:14] <hobbes> Lexvegas: Can unetbootin transfer a ISO on a flash drive, into a bootable one?
[00:14] <UberNewbie> thanks
[00:15] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, im rebooting the system and it may let me fix it
[00:15] <hobbes> Lexvegas: It doesn't have to output  a second copy or something?
[00:15] <ldz420> ﻿crackheadjunky: use nano or emacs
[00:15] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: okay
[00:15] <codichulo> mkanyicy : http://paste.ubuntu.com/563232/
[00:15] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: OK. Reboot and everything should work.
[00:15] <lexvegas> hobbes: as far as i know it can, but the original file will still be there. the jump drive will just have to be big enough. I can test if you need me to
[00:16] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, it comes up to reconfigure the display, but nothing i choose works
[00:16] <UberNewbie> nice rww, thanks alot!
[00:16] <UberNewbie> now I can actually watch the conversations
[00:16] <hobbes> Does unetbootin need enough space on the OS drive to process the transfer?
[00:17] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: hm, is the reconfigure dialog in X or terminal?
[00:17] <frotzed> crackheadjunky: http://tinyurl.com/68n6v6o
[00:17] <crackheadjunky> termina
[00:17] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, terminal
[00:17] <lexvegas> hobbes: are you on windows?
[00:17] <hobbes> WinXP
[00:17] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, x is crashing on boot
[00:17] <frotzed> crackheadjunky: you use nano instead of gedit
[00:17] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i used nano but also used gedit
[00:18] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: right, but you can't use gedit in the console
[00:18] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i used sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:18] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, and i get a file, but nothing in it
[00:18] <hobbes> The situation is, I have a very very old crappy borrowed PC, and a new PC with almost all the parts I need. I need a OS for my new PC.
[00:18] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: okay, then it doesn't exist, you'll need to generate it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=759309
[00:18] <stevomanu> anybody use n900 ??
[00:19] <java> hello, anyone know java?
[00:19] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, thats weird, it was just up and running
[00:19] <hobbes> This ancient PC lacks a burning drive, and has very crowded tiny hard drives
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: XUbuntu or Lubuntu are great on low end systems (as well as new ones if you like light and snappy)
[00:19] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i made no changes but adding drivers, in the update and now its crashing
[00:19] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: what drivers did you add?
[00:19] <lexvegas> hobbes: what I would do would be to download the ISO using your browser, and save it on the jump drive. Then from unetbootin, use the install ISO option and select the ISO you just downloaded. that should circumvent a full hard drive
[00:19] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, the ones on the update list
[00:19] <crackheadjunky> fresh 9.10 install
[00:19] <hobbes> Well, the linux is for the new PC, not the old one, I just need to get it to the new one
[00:19] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: yes, but which drivers?
[00:19] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, how do i tell?
[00:20] <mkanyicy> codichulo, seems like you hardware isnt supported
[00:20] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: good question. :) did you install them implicitly or were they part of an automatic update?
[00:20] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, part of auto update
[00:21] <hobbes> So unetbootin doesn't turn the flash drive into a phantom DVD image where the rest of the space disappears then, right?
[00:21] <binary001> Hi all, im trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on my pc and install seems to have completed successfully but when I reboot I just see a blinking cursor. I never even get to the splash screen. Can anyone help me please?
[00:21] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: ah, alright. try this then before trying to edit the xorg.conf:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   see if you have any error messages or other installations
[00:21] <crackheadjunky> binary001, did you run the checksum on the image?
[00:21] <binary001> Yes, image is fine
[00:22] <Gnea> binary001: are you able to interrupt boot and get to the grub menu?
[00:22] <crackheadjunky> no errors
[00:22] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, no errors, and all good
[00:22] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: good, did it install anything?
[00:22] <binary001> No
[00:22] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, nope
[00:22] <lexvegas> hobbes: correct. you can use it as a normal jump drive after installing onto it
[00:22] <binary001> It doesn't seem to load at all
[00:23] <Gnea> binary001: at the end of POST, hold down the left shift key, it should bring the menu up, then tell it to boot without 'quiet splash'
[00:23] <binary001> I did a default install with no other os
[00:23] <Gnea> binary001: is this your first time installing?
[00:23] <binary001> I don't think it posts
[00:23] <hobbes> Lexvegas: and the unitbootin process doesn't delete any data or require a empty USB flash, right?
[00:23] <crackheadjunky> binary001, please check the md5 sum on the disk and let us know if they match
[00:23] <binary001> Not my first time but im no expert obviously
[00:24] <binary001> I did. They do.
[00:24] <Gnea> binary001: POST == Power-On Self Test, it's when the computer turns on and makes sure everything is connected.
[00:24] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, any ideas?
[00:24] <Gnea> binary001: every computer POSTs before booting the OS
[00:24] <binary001> Alright. I'll try that.
[00:25] <lexvegas> hobbes: not that I know of
[00:25] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: okay, give the method in that URL I pasted you earlier a whirl
[00:25] <hobbes> POST beeps (if PC speakers are plugged in) are the primary way to diagnose major system problems
[00:25] <lexvegas> hobbes: would you like me to run a test?
[00:25] <hobbes> Lexvegas: Well if your not positive
[00:26] <hobbes> Another issue though, doesn't the OS drive need X amount of temporary space to process the unetbootin conversion process?
[00:26] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: "I have got back my old GNOME desktop. --  Thank you very much for your enduring and patient help.
[00:26] <ApacheOmega> hi everybody
[00:27] <fox-mulder> hi
[00:27] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: You're welcome.
[00:27] <fox-mulder> is it secure?
[00:27] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Thank you again.
[00:27] <ApacheOmega> I was wondering if it's possible to install CS3 through Wine on my UBUNTU OS
[00:27] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i did that command in that url, and i get nothing
[00:27] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, it does nothing but doesnt give me an error either
[00:27] <kheer> help
[00:27] <kheer> http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=r9hvwc
[00:27] <kheer> what is this?
[00:28] <kheer> help me please
[00:28] <kheer> i'm not resolved
[00:28] <kheer> @_@
[00:28] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: if it doesn't give an error, then it probably worked - try to edit the xorg.conf file now
[00:28] <kheer> the query
[00:28] <Jordan_U> hobbes: GRUB2 can allow you to boot from an iso that's already on the flash drive.
[00:29] <tzaeru> damn it's hard to find a good C++ IDE >_>
[00:29] <fox-mulder> i got some xfiles i need too dump, any one?
[00:29] <hobbes> kheer: Thats bad, one should always be resolved in their goals to reach them
[00:29] <ApacheOmega> ONE MORE TIME: Is it possible to install CS3 In UBUNTU THROUGH WINE???
[00:29] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, nothing in it
[00:29] <Gnea> !ot | fox-mulder
[00:29] <kheer> hobbes
[00:29] <kheer> what?
[00:29] <hobbes> Jordan: I don't understand what you mean
[00:29] <fox-mulder> wha?
[00:30] <psusi> tzaeru, emacs ;)
[00:30] <hobbes> kheer: You said your not resolved
[00:30] <[wito]> tzaeru: Try writing one (in C++, natch), and you'll soon see why.
[00:30] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: this is what you ran?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[00:30] <hobbes> Jordan_U: I didn't fully understand what you mean
[00:30] <tzaeru> psusi, I keep forgetting file names and commands and so forth :3
[00:30] <Jordan_U> fox-mulder: This channel is for technical support for the Ubuntu Linux Distribution.
[00:31] <crackheadjunky> Gnea,  yep
[00:31] <[wito]> tzaeru: It must be said that I've had *some* success with Code::Blocks, mind you.
[00:31] <kheer> help me
[00:31] <tzaeru> [wito], uh-huh, I know plenty of good ones, just none gnome suitable.
[00:31] <binary001> Gnea, I hold shift and nothing happens
[00:31] <botcity> !ask | kheer
[00:32] <tzaeru> [wito], I spent some time trying to figure out how to keep all crap Code::Blocks created files out and how to set my own custom makefiles and so forth.
[00:32] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i just ran it again, and now i get package xserver.xorg is not installed and no info is available
[00:32] <tzaeru> didn't success..
[00:32] <Jordan_U> hobbes: GRUB2 is a bootloader. You can install GRUB2 to a flash drive and manually configure it to boot from an Ubuntu iso file on that same flash drive (without needing to extract or do anything else to the iso).
[00:32] <lexvegas> hobbes: i ran unetbooting with ISO on drive, and it uses a total of 1.5 GB and my system drive did not appear to increace in usage at all, but i am on linux. it should work fine for you
[00:32] <Gnea> binary001: try ESC
[00:32] <binary001> Ok
[00:32] <lexvegas> hobbes: on the jump drive*
[00:32] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: sorry for the delay. I'm now installing the qt3 & 4 sorry.. My daughter freaked when she saw the checkers
[00:32] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: right, it's xserver-xorg, not xserver.xorg
[00:32] <tzaeru> [wito], so I settled with geany and use the terminal pluging extensively, but then, it's project management is from hell.
[00:32] <fox-mulder> anyone on yakuake?
[00:32] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: this is weird...
[00:33] <Jordan_U> hobbes: It is much more work than tools like unetbootin, but it doesn't require copying / modification of the contents of the iso itself.
[00:33] <mkanyicy> fox-mulder, me
[00:33] <Gnea> !ubuntu | fox-mulder
[00:33] <hobbes> Jordan_U: How is it more work? Any other catches?
[00:33] <fox-mulder> do you u use irssi on it?
[00:33] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i get nothin
[00:33] <binary001> No luck
[00:33] <Gnea> binary001: might have to press it repeatedly
[00:33] <binary001> I did
[00:33] <mkanyicy> fox-mulder, what is irssi?
[00:33] <crackheadjunky> reinstall x?
[00:33] <LinuxNoob> whats goin on guys :D
[00:33] <Gnea> binary001: like, start pressing it as soon as the computer turns on
[00:34] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, reinstall x?
[00:34] <binary001> I did
[00:34] <fox-mulder> i think its a irc client if im not wrong
[00:34] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: don't think that's gonna solve it - are you intending on upgrading to 10.04?
[00:34] <LinuxNoob> binary whats the problem?
[00:34] <crackheadjunky> i can
[00:34] <hobbes> lexvegas: Yes but how much ram do you have? I have about 500mb, the chance of page files being used increases with less ram
[00:34] <crackheadjunky> but i have to enable that repo
[00:34] <Gnea> LinuxNoob: he can't get into grub on a fresh 10.10 install
[00:34] <Jordan_U> hobbes: It's more work because it's not a nice GUI designed specifically for the purpose. You need to use terminal commands and text configuration files to set it up.
[00:34] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i have to enable that repo
[00:34] <mkanyicy> fox-mulder, no i never used that
[00:34] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: yeah, you can do that from the terminal
[00:34] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i dont know how to do that in term
[00:34] <LinuxNoob> binary001: ur graphics card?
[00:34] <tsou> tryin gto get a mic to work with a laptop, I've edited /etc/modeprobe.d/alsa-base.conf.  I am supposed to restart the computer for the changes to take place, but I'm using a live CD.  What's the command to re-probe / reload the conf?
[00:35] <Gnea> !upgrade | crackheadjunky
[00:35] <binary001> Nvidia gtx 260
[00:35] <fox-mulder> try it on yakuake :P mind blowing, just like xfiles
[00:35] <lexvegas> hobbes: good point, i have 3gb so more than enough. are you in a situation where just giving it a shot is out of the question?
[00:35] <hobbes> Jordan_U: Hmm, I have never ever used linux before though, that sounds a bit scary.
[00:35] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: there are indstructions at that first url to do it in ubuntu server - just follow the same directions and you'll be home-free
[00:35] <LinuxNoob> binary i know whatsw wrong
[00:35] <LinuxNoob> im asuming u guys already tried the nomodeset?
[00:35] <Jordan_U> hobbes: Indeed, it's probably not something you want to do as a beginner.
[00:35] <fox-mulder> linuxnoob no> what is that?
[00:35] <hobbes> lexvegas: I suppose I could just try it, I just want to find out as much as I can first.
[00:36] <StepNjump> chris_osx we just had a try at the checkers. My daughter loves it. Thank you very much again. I will install also the edubuntu on a separate partition for her
[00:36] <Gnea> LinuxNoob: not yet, he still hasn't gotten to grub. I suggested pressing shift and esc, but it's not working.
[00:36] <binary001> Huh?
[00:36] <Gnea> !guidelines > fox-mulder
[00:36] <LinuxNoob> binary whats the name of the file ur trying to install ubuntu as?
[00:36] <LinuxNoob> is it desktop or alternate?
[00:36] <fox-mulder> how can i see it?
[00:36] <chris_osx> StepNjump: that's good to hear :-) I wish your daughter a lot of fun.
[00:36] <lexvegas> hobbes: I cant see it hurting.
[00:36] <binary001> Just FYI, I did a default install and selected use entire disk
[00:37] <LinuxNoob> is it the only thing on the hdd?
[00:37] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:37] <binary001> Desktop
[00:37] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> binary001: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[00:37] <binary001> Yes
[00:37] <Gnea> fox-mulder: it would be to your advantage to stop playing dumb at this time.
[00:37] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:37] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:37] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:37] <FloodBot3> kheer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <binary001> I think it might have something to do with that
[00:37] <hobbes> lexvegas: you mean using the option that requires more work, you mean?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> binary001: Try changing the boot order in your BIOS.
[00:37] <Gnea> !repeat | kheer
[00:37] <binary001> I did
[00:37] <LinuxNoob> binary, how many os's do you have on the comp ur trying to put linux on?
[00:37] <binary001> I made sure the ubuntu install is first
[00:37] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:37] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, upgrading to 10.04 lts
[00:37] <fox-mulder> how come
[00:37] <binary001> Just ubuntu
[00:37] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:37] <Gnea> crackheadjunky: awesome.
[00:38] <kheer> http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=r9hvwc
[00:38] <kheer> http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=r9hvwc
[00:38] <kheer> http://nopaste.voric.com/paste.php?f=r9hvwc
[00:38] <kheer> in time because some results have to separate the ". " and the other ":"?
[00:38] <FloodBot3> kheer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> binary001: The Ubuntu installer may have installed GRUB to a different drive than it did the rest of Ubuntu.
[00:38] <lexvegas> hobbes: i think the GRUB option wont work for you, seeing as you have no linux OS installed, so no GRUB bootloader. i think you should just give unetbootin a shot. just make sure you are using a flash drive over 1.5 GB
[00:38] <kheer> Ciao a TuTtI su #ubuntu da kheer
[00:39] <kheer> help me
[00:39] <binary001> Jordan_U: How can i check?
[00:39] <fox-mulder> i asked you a legit question, and you responded me porely
[00:39] <rww> kheer: #ubuntu-it for Italian.
[00:39] <Gnea> !it | kheer
[00:39] <fox-mulder> how can i check my private msg?
[00:39] <Gnea> fox-mulder: by using irssi
[00:39] <Jordan_U> binary001: Run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt
[00:40] <fox-mulder> any command to it?
[00:40] <binary001> Ok
[00:40] <fox-mulder> i am using the irssi in the terminal
[00:40] <gpc> fox-mulder: depends on your client
[00:40] <Gnea> fox-mulder: can you switch between channels?
[00:40] <fox-mulder> yakuake
[00:40] <fox-mulder> if i may
[00:40] <Gnea> fox-mulder: what is yakuake?
[00:41] <gpc> fox-mulder: /win # (replace # with the last number you see at the bottom of your channel list)
[00:41] <gidas> kaip yra?
[00:41] <fox-mulder> yeah ctrl-x switched the channels, yakuake is a drop down terminal for linux, its tasteful
[00:41] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: If you are still here, it gives me the same error message whenever I do make or make install
[00:42] <Gnea> fox-mulder: okay, do you know how to switch between tty1, tty2, tty3, etc in console?
[00:42] <rcmaehl> Help!
[00:42] <rcmaehl> dpkg: error processing man-db (--configure):
[00:42] <rcmaehl>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[00:42] <rcmaehl> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:42] <rcmaehl>  man-db
[00:42] <FloodBot3> rcmaehl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <rcmaehl> em: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:42] <Gnea> !pastebin | rcmaehl
[00:42] <fox-mulder> alt-f2 maybe
[00:42] <Gnea> fox-mulder: yes, use the same thing, but with 2 instead of f2
[00:43] <rcmaehl> >< It should of auto stripped the formatting
[00:43] <Gnea> rcmaehl: doesn't matter, please use the pastebin site
[00:43] <sopra> italiani dove siete
[00:43] <mkanyicy> StepNjump, give me the link where you downloaded this file
[00:43] <Gnea> !it | sopra
[00:43] <gpc> !it
[00:43] <fox-mulder> nothing happens, im on a hp mini and when i hit alt-f2 f3 i only change the screen light x)
[00:43] <rcmaehl> http://pastebin.com/8h2QN45P
[00:43] <rcmaehl> There
[00:43] <Gnea> fox-mulder: no, alt-1, alt-2, alt-3, etc
[00:44] <Gnea> fox-mulder:  NOT alt-f1, alt-f2, alt-f3...
[00:44] <fox-mulder> nothing
[00:44] <fox-mulder> :)
[00:44] <fox-mulder> no on used irssi before?
[00:44] <Gnea> how about alt-<left arrow> and alt-<right arrow> ?
[00:44] <hobbes> Ok which linux should I pick, from a unbiased point of view, is ubuntu really the best? And why? How about regarding compatability with a specific DVD burner, so that it can burn too, does it vary according to linux versions?
[00:44] <rcmaehl> I can't install, remove, or update ANY packages
[00:44] <Gnea> fox-mulder: I'm on irssi right now.
[00:44] <rcmaehl> Same error message
[00:45] <Toph> i'm running ubuntu 10.10. on a dual core. My System Monitor shows one CPU at 100% use all the time. Is this normal?
[00:45] <fox-mulder> used the tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[00:45] <rcmaehl> Toph: no
[00:45] <Gnea> rcmaehl: why do you want to remove grub?
[00:45] <fox-mulder> but not in a terminal?
[00:45] <rcmaehl> Gnea: to install grub2
[00:45] <Gnea> rcmaehl: no, sudo apt-get install grub2
[00:45] <rcmaehl> Gnea: same error
[00:46] <Gnea> rcmaehl: yeah, see, you can't not have a bootloader not exist at all
[00:46] <Toph> rcmaehl,,, what could be the issue?  there seems to be mo process hogging the memory
[00:46] <Gnea> rcmaehl: try this:  sudo apt-get -f install
[00:46] <Toph> mo = no
[00:46] <rcmaehl> Toph: sudo apt-get install htop
[00:46] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: Well, now I have the checkers so my goal now is more to be able to compile anything I want in case I find ham radio stuff that is not contained in the synaptic manager or whatever other software. It just seems to be fun plus I have done a little bit of ANSI C years ago, so I might want to get back at it
[00:46] <rcmaehl> then run from a tty as sudo
[00:46] <Toph> rcmaehl,,, ok
[00:46] <lexvegas> hobbes: I would pick Ubuntu because it is new user friendly, but still allows you to do whatever. It has good support. And has the automatic restricted drivers manager, which i miss in other distros.
[00:46] <rcmaehl> Toph: and sort by cpu usage
[00:46] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: http://wibix.de/infusions/pro_download_panel/download.php?did=15
[00:47] <rcmaehl> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/aPMYma0R
[00:47] <ApacheOmega> I just need an answer some bory - anybody - Is it possible to install CS3 in UBUNTU through WINE?
[00:47] <hobbes> Lexvegas: what is a "automatic restricted drivers"? Why would I want my drivers restricted?(I figure that is not what it means exactly, just clarifying my not understanding)
[00:48] <fox-mulder> how do you join a channel ?
[00:48] <rcmaehl> hobbes: the drivers aren't restricted as in limited
[00:48] <rcmaehl> they're restricted as in not normally in the repos or something
[00:49] <hobbes> "repos"?
[00:49] <rcmaehl> repositories
[00:49] <nixjr> what does it mean if the symlink i made has a green background in the command line?
[00:49] <hobbes> rcmaehl: Still not fully understanding
[00:50] <lexvegas> hobbes: for example, my dell laptop had a broadcom wireless card. there are no open source drivers for it, and the propriatary drivers are difficult to install properly. the restricted drivers manager installs the driver for you, thus making life easier.
[00:50] <LinuxNoob> apacheomega yes :D
[00:50] <lexvegas> hobbes: another popular one is video drivers
[00:50] <rcmaehl> hobbes: it's where ubuntu's packages or 'programs' come from
[00:50] <ApacheOmega> LinuxNoob: How do I do this
[00:50] <sopra> ciao a tutti
[00:50] <LinuxNoob> apacheomega: u the iso?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: all those apps do is install specified packages, if you know the packages (or can find out) you don't need those things
[00:51] <sopra> italiani??
[00:51] <hobbes> Ubuntu has drivers not available on other distros?
[00:51] <Toph> rcmaehl,,, user root is using most of the memory,,, i'm not sure why
[00:51] <rcmaehl> Toph: O_o
[00:51] <rcmaehl> say what?
[00:51] <brunner> If I switch computers, is there *anything* outside of my home directory that I should worry about saving?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Toph: because root launches a lot of the apps that make the desktop appear and the background services
[00:51] <Gnea> rcmaehl: okay, did you run:  sudo apt-get -f install  ?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> !it | sopra
[00:51] <Toph> rcmaehl,,, the first entry on htop is root using memory,, like 100%
[00:51] <ApacheOmega> LinuxNoob:  could I look it up in a tutorial some where Cause I'm  Nubie to UBUNTU
[00:51] <rcmaehl> Gnea: yep I tried
[00:51] <binary001> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/zH1Yf3xD
[00:52] <Gnea> rcmaehl: can you pastebin that please?
[00:52] <lexvegas> ActionParsnip: I didnt know that. I guess the only other place i have installed drivers manually (or attempted to) is debian and ARCH
[00:52] <fox-mulder> who
[00:52] <LinuxNoob> apache i sent u a message
[00:52] <nixjr> what does it mean if the symlink i made has a green background in the command line?
[00:52] <rcmaehl> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/4P5Lgsn2
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> lexvegas: if you buy mega compatible hardware it will all work out of the box like all my systems do :)
[00:52] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, so taking up 100% of a CPU is acceptable?
[00:52] <nodestep_> nixjr: i think it means it symbolic
[00:52] <Gnea> nixjr: it means it's a symlink
[00:52] <ApacheOmega> LinuxNoob - Where did you send it too
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Toph: depends what's happening, if you are compiling a kernel then it will happen
[00:53] <LinuxNoob> should be next to where it says ur in the #ubuntu channel
[00:53] <Gnea> rcmaehl: no no no, do not append grub2
[00:53] <LinuxNoob> should say my name next to that
[00:53] <nixjr> nodestep_, Gnea, i have two different symlinks in this directory, one is just a normla blue, and one is blue with this bright green background
[00:53] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, i'm just ircing at the moment and have firefox open and idle
[00:53] <Gnea> rcmaehl: type ONLY what I say to type
[00:53] <Jordan_U> binary001: Indeed. GRUB is installed to /dev/sdd, and the rest of Ubuntu is on /dev/sda.
[00:53] <stevomanu> yo all newbi here need some help
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: I have symlinks to folders which show in cyan
[00:53] <ApacheOmega> LinuxNoob: OK thanks
[00:53] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: could be different ownership
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Toph: top will show whats chewing your cpu over
[00:53] <stevomanu> when running this command tar xf 20110201-0838-rootfs.tar -C ./rootfs/
[00:53] <hobbes> rcmaehl:  Ubuntu has drivers not available on other distros?
[00:53] <binary001> So how can i fix that?
[00:53] <lexvegas> ActionParsnip: if only I knew when i bought. Im still fairly young, so when i bought i didnt know much about linux at all, other than i could barely install it on my old VPR matrix
[00:54] <nodestep_> nixjr: did you try `ls -l`
[00:54] <exutux> nixjr: gree= executable
[00:54] <exutux> green*
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: its a link to the same folder  ./downloads -> ./Downloads
[00:54] <rcmaehl> Gnea: so only sudo apt-get -f install?
[00:54] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, can you give me a hint at what info on top is useful?
[00:54] <Gnea> rcmaehl: correct.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Toph: the top 5 processes listed, read the cpu colomn
[00:54] <rcmaehl> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/WvVF7Kck
[00:54] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, yes, the top one is the user root and takes 100%
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Toph: what is the process name though
[00:55] <Gnea> rcmaehl: okay, can you pastebin the output of this command please:  ps axf
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Toph: the righmost colomn is the process
[00:55] <Toph> ok
[00:55] <stevomanu> im runing this command tar xf 20110201-0838-rootfs.tar -C ./rootfs/ an result is tar: rootfs: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[00:55] <stevomanu> its defo in right place
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> stevomanu: did you make ./rootfs
[00:56] <binary001> Jordan_U: ?
[00:56] <J_C> stevomanu: do you have a directory called rootfs?
[00:56] <rcmaehl> Gnea: should I run that as sudo?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> stevomanu: if the folder you want to extract to doesn't exist you will get that error. It is not tar's job to make the folder
[00:57] <Gnea> rcmaehl: nah
[00:57] <rcmaehl> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/1U99F2uZ
[00:57] <Jordan_U> binary001: The easiset way to fix it is to make /dev/sdd first in the boot order. Once you're booted into Ubuntu you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to change where the grub-pc packaging installs grub.
[00:57] <Gnea> stevomanu: also, 'x' extracts, 'c' creates
[00:58] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, the top right column is 'Command'. Is that what is look for?  If it is, it is 'apt-get -qq -y -update'
[00:58] <binary001> But how do I know which driver that is?
[00:58] <binary001> Drive*
[00:58] <stevomanu> ok cool , sure folder is there
[00:58] <nixjr> nodestep_, here is what i see when i do a ls -l http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4300/symlink.jpg
[00:59] <Gnea> rcmaehl: alright, looks like you've got a runaway process, I recommend rebooting before continuing
[00:59] <rcmaehl> Gnea: which one?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Toph: then the updates are what is doing it
[01:00] <aliendude5300> Hi, long time Ubuntu user here -- trying to help a friend dual-boot Ubuntu with Win XP... they left their computer with me. Ubuntu is installed, but every time I activate the proprietary Nvidia driver, the system boots up without the gdm login screen, and shows a console login screen. After logging in and typing startx it works, but that shouldn't be necessary. Any ideas?
[01:00] <exutux> nixjr: i said you that green means executable is this a script?
[01:00] <Gnea> rcmaehl: it can't be seen on the screen normally at this point
[01:00] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, any idea what i could do to solve that?
[01:00] <rcmaehl> Gnea: I'll sigterm it
[01:00] <nixjr> exutux, no, sotht he symlinks in there are to folders
[01:00] <Gnea> 2683 ?        S      0:00 /bin/sh -c /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true 2684 ?        S      0:00  \_ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt
[01:00] <nixjr> both the*
[01:00] <hobbes> Does Ububutu offer drivers not usable in other linux versions?
[01:00] <Gnea> rcmaehl: you can try...
[01:01] <BajK> stupid lg monitor :(
[01:01] <aliendude5300> hobbes: all of the Ubuntu driver packages should work with other debian based distros
[01:01] <BajK> i dont understand why they took the superior W2452 out of their products.. the 2453 is okay, but so buggy
[01:01] <hobbes> Oh, then that restricted file thing, It just comes with more drivers then?
[01:01] <binary001> Jordan_U: How can I find out which drive needs to be first?
[01:02] <Gnea> BajK: because buggy == $$$
[01:02] <rcmaehl> Gnea: terminated successfully
[01:02] <mkanyicy> StepNjump: ok I see, that source code of yours depended on Qt4 libraries, and 'qt4-dev-tools' & 'build-essential' were what were needed
[01:02] <Gnea> rcmaehl: alright, try the -f install again
[01:02] <aliendude5300> hobbes: restricted-extras is just a set of other packages, I think it includes libdvdcss, LAME, and some gstreamer plugins
[01:02] <BajK> Gnea: hm.. I bought the 2453 because I wanted to equal screens (i have two of them now) but I already knewthat secondary screen setup with this is a mess.. now I have one connected as primary to DVI and the other using a DVI-to-VGA adapter via VGA -.- but at least it works now
[01:03] <rcmaehl> Gnea: Building database of manual pages ..
[01:03] <BajK> the 2452 was 16:10 instead of stupid 16:9 and didnt have those bugs
[01:03] <Jordan_U> binary001: Do you know which drive corrosponds to the device "/dev/sdd"?
[01:03] <rww> ubuntu-restricted-extras doesn't contain libdvdcss.
[01:03] <binary001> No
[01:03] <Gnea> rcmaehl: :D
[01:03] <binary001> That's my question
[01:03] <Gnea> BajK: interesting..
[01:03] <aliendude5300> rww: really? It probably should...
[01:03] <aliendude5300> thought it did...
[01:03] <rww> aliendude5300: It can't for legal reasons.
[01:03] <rww> !dvd
[01:03] <stevomanu> now imgetting
[01:04] <rcmaehl> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/0u8auHai
[01:04] <stevomanu> tar: ./rootfs/: Is a directory
[01:04] <rcmaehl> Gnea: what should the linux line be?
[01:04] <BajK> Gnea: :D because it doesnt "wake up" when connected to secondary dvi.. it says in standby. and those guys at the local market said "just go to settings and do this and that" and I explicitly stated i dont have windows^^ vbut well :D
[01:04] <Jordan_U> binary001: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/" Should list all of your drives by serial number, and which /dev/sdX they refer to.
[01:04] <crackheadjunky> Gnea, i figured it out. i ran out of disk space, and it didnt save my updated drivers. i manually setup my hard drive allocation, and didnt give enough space for it all... thanks for your help!
[01:04] <rcmaehl> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-25-generic root=/dev/sda1 ?
[01:04] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: oh ok
[01:04] <hobbes> aliendude5300: I simply don't understand. Not a good enough understanding of the lingue. Let me try this, is there any differences between the linux distros in how compatible they are with X hardware?
[01:04] <Gnea> rcmaehl: I would just keep it as-is
[01:05] <binary001> Thank you for your help
[01:05] <Jordan_U> binary001: You're welcome.
[01:05] <Gnea> BajK: then you have to figure out the equivelant for ubuntu :)
[01:05] <StepNjump> mkanyicy how could i download all the c++ libraries needed for most source files written in C++ to be compiled?
[01:05] <BajK> Gnea: :P hm maybe I'll just give it back and say it doesnt work
[01:05] <aliendude5300> hobbes: Yes, certain distros only use free firmwares, and they remove binary-blobs that are needed to use certain hardware from the linux kernel. An example would be Trisquel.
[01:05] <rcmaehl> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/6nDepFjH
[01:06] <StepNjump> Sorry I will be away from the computer a little bit. I am requested here
[01:06] <StepNjump> Brb
[01:06] <Gnea> BajK: haha I suppose
[01:06] <aliendude5300> hobbes: http://trisquel.info/
[01:06] <BajK> the weird thing is, I can make it "wake up" when I swap cables but then the other one instantly goes to standby. today when I replaced 2452 to 2453 today, I did it while the system was rtunning and then it worked, now I came back and started my pc and well
[01:06] <BajK> and I couldnt even get to the settings beacuse all the windows were opened on the other offline screen and I couldnt move them over. Neither using those snapping feature nor Alt+drag blindly
[01:06] <Gnea> rcmaehl: you're set, grub2 is installed.
[01:07] <hobbes> aliendude5300: So most of the main stream linux distros all use "binary-blobs" and are equally hard ware compatible?
[01:07] <rcmaehl> Gnea: what about the warnings and that stuff about missing something on line soemthing
[01:07] <LinuxNoob> no matter what i change my damn screen dims after 5 seconds of inactivity >.>
[01:07] <mkanyicy> StepNjump: I think build-essential have all those
[01:08] <Umeaboy> Where's that dict-guy I talked with before?
[01:08] <Umeaboy> The userlist is so long.
[01:08] <Gnea> rcmaehl: ah, you should make sure it's installed to the mbr and not to a partition. so it should be /dev/sda or (hd0) instead of /dev/sda1 or (hd0,0)
[01:08] <mkanyicy> StepNjump: remember that Qt is not standard c++ but based on c++ (or is c++ extension)
[01:08] <aliendude5300> hobbes: Debian is trying to reduce dependencies on binary blobs, by replacing them with free equivalents, but hardware support of most distros is, in general, very close.
[01:08] <rcmaehl> Gnea: how do I install it now?
[01:09] <binary001> Jordan_U: I tried booting with all drives as first and nothing works. On the other drive I get an error that says 'no bootable device...'. But not all my drives show up on the boot list
[01:09] <Gnea> !grub2 | rcmaehl Instructions to do it correctly are here:
[01:09] <rcmaehl> Gnea: sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[01:09] <Superbest> asas
[01:09] <Jordan_U> binary001: Then it's likely that your BIOS simply can't read sdd for some reason. Boot a LiveCD and follow this guide to install grub to sda: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[01:10] <Gnea> rcmaehl: pretty much
[01:10] <rcmaehl> okay gonna restart
[01:10] <hobbes> aliendude5300: with debian, are these free equivalents sometimes less reliable? and what your talking about normally costs money somehow?
[01:11] <Nicolas_Leonidas> is there a command line utility to convert mwv files to mp4?
[01:11] <BajK> so, brb, setting up the "spare" monitor and an old pc with mythbuntu for multimedia center pc in my living room :) yay^^
[01:11] <Jordan_U> binary001: ***Do not forget***, once you're booted into Ubuntu you'll need to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and change which drive grub will be installed to on upgrades.
[01:11] <BajK> btw: anybody of the plasma/kwin developers need a second monitor for testing multiscreen/multihead setups? :P
[01:11] <binary001> Thanks
[01:12] <Jordan_U> binary001: You're welcome.
[01:12] <aliendude5300> hobbes: the free equivalents may or may not be as reliable, but they should work decently if they're being included in a distribution. "binary blobs" don't cost money, they just don't have source code available.
[01:13] <exutux> nixjr: dircolors --print-database show you how "ls" set color for file extension http://linux.die.net/man/5/dir_colors
[01:13] <hobbes> aliendude5300: Is there variation in the distros of emulation ability?
[01:14] <hobbes> For win programs and such, especially games
[01:14] <exutux> nixjr: by default ls --color is set on your ~/.bashrc
[01:15] <DasEi> hobbes: more a question of used wineversion
[01:15] <aliendude5300> hobbes: emulation ability? First of all, Wine (the library used for running windows programs) isn't an emulator, it's a compatibility layer. The only difference in ability of running programs would be caused by drivers, especially graphics drivers. As for NES, SNES, etc. Those should run relatively evenly, although emulation of newer systems will require relatively modern graphics drivers.
[01:15] <Guest93593> .
[01:16] <hobbes> You can't run a windows environment in a virtual machine under linux?
[01:16] <rcmaehl> MY tty text is too large
[01:16] <aliendude5300> hobbes: Yes, you can. See virtualbox.
[01:17] <aliendude5300> hobbes: I prefer Wine, when possible though, it's much more lightweight, and it loads faster.
[01:17] <LoganHoup> Can you run Ubuntu inside Windows 7?
[01:17] <aliendude5300> with wine, there's no need to emulate an entire windows environment to open a program or two
[01:18] <hobbes> Ok on a separate topic, if I choose ubuntu, why is the 32bit listed as recommended over the 64bit?
[01:18] <aliendude5300> LoganHoup: Within a virtual machine, yes.
[01:18] <hobbes> And which one should I choose, the latest, or the earlier, theoretically more stable version?
[01:18] <LoganHoup> So you can't use Wubi for that? I could've swore you used to be able to.
[01:19] <LoganHoup> Guess I'm just crazy :P
[01:19] <aliendude5300> hobbes: Certain software doesn't work as well in 64-bit yet. As a 64-bit user, the only software that this really applies to in my case is Java and Flash, and the 32-bit version is easier to get these working from an end-user's perspective.
[01:19] <aliendude5300> LoganHoup: You can use Wubi, I thought you meant, literally, inside of Windows. Wubi should work fine.
[01:19] <LoganHoup> lol. Yes, that's what I meant.
[01:21] <hobbes> aliendude5300: But if I choose 32bit, only 3-4gb of my ram out of 8gb will be recognized right? And limitations to HDD size too, right?
[01:22] <rcmaehl> hobbes: correct
[01:22] <paq7512> how can i merge pdfs?
[01:22] <aliendude5300> it's been 20 minutes... it looks like nobody's going to answer my question, so I'll reiterate. Basically, a friend of mine left his XP computer with me, asking to set up dual-booting for him. I have everything working, but when I install proprietary nvidia graphics, the system boots to a console-based login. startx works to get into GNOME, but I would like to have it boot to gdm.
[01:22] <hobbes> What is the HDD size limitation with 32bit?
[01:22] <rcmaehl> aliendude5300: add it to the startupapplications
[01:23] <aliendude5300> hobbes: It's up to 3.5GB of RAM. HDD size limitations shouldn't apply to you. 32-bit can recognize my 1.5TB drive.
[01:23] <hobbes> I got a 2TB drive on the new system
[01:23] <zenbuntu> use pae
[01:23] <aliendude5300> rcmaehl: just installing the nvidia driver shouldn't be removing the graphical login from the startup applications. I think there is a bigger issue here.
[01:23] <gidas> pae sucks
[01:24] <rcmaehl> aliendude5300: pastebin me your startup applications list
[01:25] <zenbuntu> works 4 me
[01:25] <aliendude5300> hobbes: I believe 2TB is the limit in HDD size on 32-bit, but I'm not sure.
[01:25] <lexvegas> Anyone have any ideas as to why plymouth would not show the boot splash on either of my dell computers? One is an Inspiron 1545 and the other is an Inspiron 530s Desktop. Two different years, one is 32 bit, the other is 64, but neither show the boot splash. Both are integrated intel graphics. The shutdown splash works fine on both. Any ideas?
[01:25] <rcmaehl> Do I need ubuntu-docs?
[01:25] <aliendude5300> rcmaehl: hold on, I'm on my computer right now, not the affected machine, and I have the nvidia driver disabled atm, as it was causing problems, I'll get that to you ASAP.
[01:25] <rcmaehl> ok
[01:25] <aliendude5300> mamros
[01:26] <aliendude5300> meant to pm that to someone, sorry
[01:26] <hobbes> aliendude5300: So besides 32bit/64bit, Should I use 10.10, or 10.4?
[01:26] <LinuxNoob> 10.10
[01:26] <rcmaehl> hobbes: are you going to be using wifi?
[01:27] <hobbes> Probably not, why?
[01:27] <LinuxNoob> HDD size is nothing affected by processor bit size
[01:27] <rcmaehl> then 10.10
[01:27] <hobbes> Why wifi include cordless mice etc?
[01:27] <LinuxNoob> 32bit can have 4gb max ram
[01:27] <rcmaehl> hobbes: wifi as in wireless internet
[01:27] <nejode> lexvegas, 1)  sudo echo FRAMEBUFFER=y > /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash
[01:27] <LinuxNoob> thats the only thing u have to have for a higher bit
[01:27] <aliendude5300> hobbes: I'd use 10.10.
[01:28] <nejode> 2) sudo update-initramfs -u
[01:28] <LinuxNoob> hobbes: what was ur original location?
[01:28] <lexvegas> nejode: will try. thanks
[01:28] <LinuxNoob> question***
[01:28] <hobbes> If I pick a version of linux, how easy is it to change to something else latter?
[01:28] <zenbuntu> very
[01:28] <LinuxNoob> oh ur just asking questions got ya
[01:28] <LinuxNoob> its easy to change, once u get used to it.
[01:29] <aliendude5300> switching from 32-bit to 64-bit wasn't too hard for me... I just backed up my /home directory, wiped 32-bit, installed 64-bit, and then copied my files back and reinstalled my programs
[01:29] <LinuxNoob> im adapting quite nicely cause i formated my hdd and put fresh install of linux on here.
[01:29] <zenbuntu> 10.04 is stable used it a year now
[01:29] <hobbes> LinuxNoob: I've asked alot of questions, my original one was trying to set up ububtu on a USB flash drive on a system with severally limited HDD space
[01:29] <LinuxNoob> oh
[01:29] <LinuxNoob> have access to a windows comp?
[01:30] <LinuxNoob> and how big is ur flash drive?
[01:30] <hobbes> The one I am using right now, a ancient and severally limited XP machine
[01:30] <LinuxNoob> i can help ya out with that then
[01:30] <LinuxNoob> lets not flood, ill take ya to my office :D
[01:30] <hobbes> linuxnoob: I think I got those early questions answered though
[01:31] <aliendude5300> hobbes: how big is the usb flash drive you want linux on?
[01:31] <brandon420> how you stop a torrent on rtorrent?
[01:31] <hobbes> I got a 4gb, and a 8gb
[01:31] <LinuxNoob> brandon hit the pause button
[01:31] <LinuxNoob> or right click pause all downloads
[01:31] <aliendude5300> 4GB is more than enough to run a linux distro from a flash drive.
[01:32] <LinuxNoob> put it on ur 4gb one
[01:32] <brandon420> linux_probe, its cli....
[01:32] <LinuxNoob> look up universal usb tool
[01:32] <LinuxNoob> u can make it boot of ur usb drive and it will see the hdd's
[01:32] <aliendude5300> If you're creating a linux flash drive, it's really easy to do with the program usb-creator-gtk from within Linux
[01:32] <lighta> 4gb is like putin it into a real hdd..
[01:32] <hobbes> The issue was getting it on the USB flash drive though as a bootable
[01:32] <aliendude5300> probably just as easy with unetbootin on windows
[01:32] <LinuxNoob> universal usb tool
[01:32] <lighta> hobbes, use usb creator
[01:32] <LinuxNoob> or usb creator
[01:33] <LinuxNoob> either will work
[01:33] <lighta> I prefer usb creator personnaly
[01:33] <LinuxNoob> i use them for my usb's
[01:33] <lighta> found it faster
[01:33] <hobbes> "it's really easy to do with the program usb-creator-gtk from within Linux" what is?
[01:33] <LinuxNoob> i use universal usb tool, its really nifty
[01:33] <aliendude5300> hobbes: making a bootable linux flash drive
[01:33] <lighta> normally on ubuntu distro no ?
[01:33] <LinuxNoob> i have my 1gb flashdrive that can get into any computer, diagnose it, and treat it :D
[01:33] <lighta> when you go on preference system usb ?
[01:34] <lexvegas> nejode: I love you. that works. although for your reference I had to do sudo su and then run the command for some reason. sudo wouldnt work
[01:34] <gidas> debian 6.0 is out, woot woot
[01:34] <aliendude5300> I've used usb-creator gtk many times, I like it
[01:34] <StepNjump> mkanyicy: Thank you very much for your help. I will be doing some reading on QT. I have to log off for now but thanks a million for all you have taught me today. take care my friend.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> gidas: debian is offtopic here
[01:34] <gidas> y?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> gidas: this is ubuntu support only
[01:34] <gidas> oh, shit ...
[01:35] <gidas> sorry guys
[01:35] <hobbes> aliendude5300: I am to, but what are you talking about with the rest of that stuff with the usb creater, and that thing from within linux?
[01:35] <lighta> what are you talking about hobbes  ?
[01:35] <nejode> lexvegas, true, forgaot that!
[01:36] <lighta> the thing coming with ubuntu is usb creator as I remenber
[01:36] <LinuxNoob> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[01:36] <hobbes> aliendude said "it's really easy to do with the program usb-creator-gtk from within Linux" what is?
[01:36] <LinuxNoob> thats for you hobbes
[01:36] <aliendude5300> hobbes: usb-creator-gtk is a program that makes it easy to make a bootable linux usb flash drive, you were talking about doing that...
[01:36] <aliendude5300> hobbes: you just have to download the iso, choose which ISO it is, and select the flash drive as the destination.
[01:36] <hobbes> wouldn't unetbootin be better?
[01:36] <enyawix> i only want to setup a LAMP do I want ubuntu or ubuntu-server?
[01:37] <enyawix> i am comming from debian and gentoo
[01:37] <LinuxNoob> use the link i gave you, the program has ALOT of usefull files, and u can boot linux from it very eassiy   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[01:37] <lighta> had issus with unetbootin last time :(
[01:37] <gpc> enyawix: server
[01:37] <aliendude5300> hobbes: They're both about the same, unetbootin would be better if you're in windows right now, as it's easier to set up
[01:38] <enyawix> gpc: will server force cloud computing. i am a old linux user and hove no idea how to manage a cloud
[01:38] <hobbes> The issue I spoke of was lack of space to download ubuntu in the first place
[01:38] <gpc> enyawix: no
[01:38] <enyawix> gpc: thanks
[01:38] <aliendude5300> hobbes: do you have 600MB left on your HDD?
[01:39] <lighta> hobbes, you don't have 600mb disk free ?
[01:39] <hobbes> But we figured it out, I can download ububtu onto the flash drive, then convert it to the flash drive, and it won't take any real page space with 3g memory, too bad I got more like 500
[01:39] <nejode> hobbes, you can make a complete install to your flash too
[01:39] <hobbes> lighta: not really
[01:39] <aliendude5300> hobbes: If I recall correctly, you said you had a 2TB hdd, surely there's something you can delete...
[01:40] <LinuxNoob> delete a program..
[01:40] <lighta> hmm can you use a cdrom ? I think you can choose cd as source, or another usb
[01:40] <aliendude5300> LinuxNoob: programs don't take up much space, deleting temp files should free up > 100MB
[01:40] <LinuxNoob> or u can put 8 gigs of crap on ur flash drive, then install linux and nuke the other partitions
[01:40] <nejode> hobbes, download the minimal install cd, and build your system on the flash from there... it's only 13MB
[01:40] <hobbes> I explained this much earlier, I have a ancient PC that can't do crap, can't burn with it, can't open it up, I have a brand new PC I am putting together, it has the 2tb drive, its a internal one I can't use with this PC though
[01:41] <hobbes> But the issue was resolved I think, so I am not sure why we are still talking about it
[01:41] <LinuxNoob> oh
[01:41] <LinuxNoob> :D
[01:41] <aliendude5300> oh, ok
[01:42] <hobbes> It was suggested I can download the ISO to the USB flash drive, then convert it to the same USB flash drive
[01:42] <LinuxNoob> wont work i dont think
[01:42] <StevenSX> Help!  I just entered: sudo chmod -R 700 /  I was just testing out permissions. Now when I do ls -l it states bash: /bin/ls: Permission denied. I get something similar for sudo.  Any way to fix?
[01:42] <LinuxNoob> u have to format the drive before u can make it auto bootable
[01:43] <lighta> but hobbes I don't get it. You only "need" space on your new pc for the iso, the time you put it on your usb right ? then your old pc can boot with this everytime if you want, just have to set it permanent
[01:43] <LinuxNoob> i might be wrong
[01:43] <LinuxNoob> yeah u can have it always boot from ur usb
[01:43] <hobbes> Why not linuxnoob? Someone else said they tested it, apparently with unetbootin you don't need to format.  I just hope with my measily 500mb system ram, too much page space isn't necessary for the conversion
[01:43] <hobbes> lighta: space is not the issue on the new PC, lack of a OS is
[01:44] <rcmaehl> StevenR: I think that's the system protecting itself
[01:44] <StevenSX> What can I do about it?
[01:44] <lighta> I did it with unetbootin recently you need your usb to be on fat32 to boot in
[01:44] <LinuxNoob> yeah
[01:45] <rcmaehl> StevenR: Don't screw with / permissions
[01:45] <lighta> hobbes, where are you now ? on old or recent ?
[01:45] <StevenSX> Why not?
[01:45] <hobbes> even if the usb drive is fat32, I can still format with the linux on the new system to NTSF (or what ever the name is), right?
[01:45] <rcmaehl> StevenR: you can render your install unusable
[01:45] <hobbes> lighta: I said the new system lacks a OS, what do you think?
[01:45] <StevenSX> Is it possible to fix or not?
[01:46] <StevenSX> Good thing it is a VM heh
[01:46] <lexvegas> hobbes: Just noticed you are still here. anything you still need?
[01:46] <LinuxNoob> so your just trying to put a copy of windows on it?
[01:46] <hobbes> lighta: OS=Operating system
[01:46] <LinuxNoob> i mean linux***
[01:46] <LinuxNoob> sorry, im high :D
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> StevenSX: you could boot to livecd and chmod there
[01:46] <hobbes> lexvegas:even if the usb drive is fat32, I can still format with the linux on the new system to NTSF (or what ever the name is), right?
[01:46] <lighta> here what I'll do if you really don't have any space anywhere, plug 2 usb, take an iso from net on usb1, use a usb creator program to set it permanent on usb2 and boot your pc permanntly with usb2 or if you have enought space (can be like 300mb mini) install it
[01:46] <LinuxNoob> hobbes: so ur just trying to put a copy of ubunto on ur new comp that has no OS?
[01:47] <StevenSX> ActionParsnip: Does that work with VirtualBox? heh
[01:47] <hobbes> linuxnoob: among other things, yes
[01:47] <lexvegas> hobbes: why do you need NTFS?
[01:47] <LinuxNoob> without using up all ur hdd on the computer ur on
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> StevenSX: yes, you booted to the CD to install the OS, so why no?
[01:47] <StevenSX> I don't know, I guess it seems too convenient
[01:47] <hobbes> lexvegas: better format from what I understand
[01:47] <StevenSX> I am used to OS that are a pain in the ass
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> StevenSX: the OS is very flexible so you can do stuff like this
[01:48] <StevenSX> I guess Linux is too good to be true
[01:48] <LinuxNoob> stevensx: what was ur problem?
[01:48] <lighta> yes hobbes installation software let you format your target partition on system you want, ext4, ext3, ext2, ntfs? e I dont remenber, swap
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> StevenSX: its just able to meld, if youhave physical access to a system you can dig yourself out of most holes with a livecd
[01:48] <hobbes> What format type would you recommend?
[01:48] <StevenSX> LinuxNoob: I typed Sudo chmod -R 700 / like an idiot.
[01:49] <lighta> ext4
[01:49] <far_> help with locale
[01:49] <lighta> faster
[01:49] <LinuxNoob> so what happened?
[01:49] <lexvegas> hobbes: so you want the filesystem of your linux box to be NTFS? because ubuntu uses a different filesystem by default called EXT4 also the format of the jump drive does not matter for installing fat32 is good
[01:49] <lighta> for OS
[01:49] <hobbes> Will I have any trouble duelbooting with win7 if part of the HDD is partitioned this ext4?
[01:50] <MrPink1> I know I am probably in the wrong channel, but don't know where else to go and have always been helped here... so here it goes:
[01:50] <MrPink1> I have a "ECS A780GM-A" Motherboard. It says it is AM2+... but can I also put a "Phenom X4 955" on that mainboard ?
[01:50] <LinuxNoob> if ur going to dual boot
[01:50] <LinuxNoob> id say install windows 7 first, thenn install linux using wubi.
[01:50] <lighta> well really depend on your use I'd say hobbes, I don't think i'm wrong saying you could install it on all, but ext4 isn't easy readable for windows, I think ext2 is the most supported from windows
[01:50] <LinuxNoob> that would be the easiest thing you could do
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> MrPink1: you need an AM2+ socket CPU. If the Phenom whatever is socket AM2+ then ye
[01:51] <hobbes> lighta: but if its just on the linux partition, windows won'
[01:51] <MrPink1> Its AM3
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> MrPink1: you should ask in ##hardware
[01:51] <hobbes> won't need to read it, right?
[01:51] <lexvegas> hobbes: the installer will assign proper formats to the partitions if you use the guided partitioner. and in relation to win7, no. although it is generally better to install windows first so GRUB can be the bootloader. its no big deal though. there is just an added step after installing windows
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> MrPink1: then no, its a different socket
[01:51] <MrPink1> But I have read they are compatible somehow
[01:51] <lighta> yes install windows before linux is recommmanded just because of grub, if you doit on other way, dosgrub do usually something bad with your linux grub and you can't boot on linux again :(
[01:51] <far_> any one available
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> MrPink1: i'd ask in ##hardware to clarify
[01:51] <MrPink1> when I try to join #hardware it says I need an invitation for that server o.O
[01:51] <LinuxNoob> i would install windows 7 first, it is great for making your system full of good drivers :D
[01:51] <MrPink1> oh ##hardware
[01:51] <MrPink1> let me try with two # :D
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> MrPink1: if you register and identify, you can join it
[01:52] <LinuxNoob> and then ubuntu 10.10 using www.wubi.com
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> !ask | far_
[01:52] <hobbes> linuxnoob: Said drivers are of no use to linux though, right?
[01:52] <Rush> I need help installing the network driver for TRENDNET te100-PCIWIN, can anyone help?
[01:52] <lexvegas> LinuxNoob: i would avoid WUBI. it uses virtual partitions and things can be slower
[01:52] <lighta> hobbes, I don't get windows won't ? as I know I didn't found good programme who could read ext4 on windows, from linux to windows there no issues
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Rush: what sort of device is it?
[01:52] <LinuxNoob> really?
[01:53] <LinuxNoob> rush: im a specialist at solving this one :D
[01:53] <MrPink1> Action ok I will try and see if I can get into Hardware, thx
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> lighta: microsoft are ignorant and havent coded in anything access except FAT and NTFS based filesystems
[01:53] <hobbes> lighta: I did not understand that.
[01:54] <hobbes> windows won't need to be able to read the linux partition though right?
[01:54] <moes> How can I delete a Linux file from my windows system
[01:54] <lighta> xd ActionParsnip that what I say, but ext2 is supported right, from ext2read or something like that, ext3, and 4 are more difficult
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> lighta: the definitions of the data structure is freely available too so they don't even need to exert too much effort
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> moes: you can't
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> lighta: with a 3rd party app you can read ext2 and ext3
[01:55] <lexvegas> LinuxNoob: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_wubi_1010&num=1 thats about the performance of WUBI
[01:55] <lighta> well hobbes  that depend on you for some time I had some work on ext3 adn was working on windows env and I was really pissed of to not be able to get it
[01:55] <moes> ActionParsnip, can I keep it from trying to boot from grub
[01:55] <lighta> so I had to use a VM yes !!
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> moes: how do you mean?
[01:55] <hobbes> Well, I could boot from a live disk or the USB flash drive to accomplish that
[01:56] <lighta> ActionParsnip, do you have some for ext4, the one I had for ext3 wasn't working right
[01:56] <hobbes> Is ext4 really much better for linux then ntsf?
[01:56] <moes> ActionParsnip, When grub tried to boot windows it tried to boot this linux save file
[01:56] <lighta> ext4 i'd say
[01:56] <Rush>  have ubuntu 10.04 lite, so 2.6.x kernel... i have no network connection from a ethernet cord i know that works, so i assumed drivers didn't download [17:55] <Osiris_> it was an old network card so i bought this trendnet te100-pciwin thinking the latest drivers might be on the install cd [17:56] <Osiris_> 2.2 and 2.4 are but not 2.6 ++ i don't know how to install.... so yeah
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> lighta: not as far as I know, i believe the guys at fs-driver.org are in progress but I don't use a dual boot
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | moes
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> moes: i know little of grub
[01:56] <lexvegas> hobbes: yes and windows will have to have its own partition anyways, so it really dosent matter what you format your linux file system as
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> Rush: ulite isn't supported here
[01:57] <trentg> How do I tell what version of proprietary nvidia drivers are "current" in 10.10?
[01:57] <moes> ActionParsnip, I have already reinstalled and updated grub
[01:57] <skutr3> i was banned from #debian
[01:57] <debianmike> is there a way to edit the "start" menu defaults (applications/places/system) in ubuntu/gnome?
[01:57] <hobbes> For general storage, I should just use NTSF then though right?
[01:57] <skutr3> right after the new release tto
[01:57] <species> skutr3: what did you do
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current | trentg
[01:57] <lighta> yeah lucky you my teacher still give me excel macro or other only miscrofot only based works to do so ... I hate this
[01:57] <skutr3> too*
[01:57] <debianmike> i want to shorten the names, not add/remove items
[01:58] <skutr3> species: idk i didnt do anything badd
[01:58] <skutr3> bad*
[01:58] <species> thats what they all say
[01:58] <lexvegas> hobbes: just to clarify, do you have a working knowledge of disk partitions?
[01:58] <species> when you are banned from a channel you are given a reason
[01:58] <species> if not you should contact an op
[01:58] <rww> skutr3: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, not complaining about bans in other channels.
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> skutr3: you can appeal it in #freenode
[01:58] <skutr3> species: thats just it i was never given a reason
[01:58] <species> then appeal it in #freenode
[01:59] <hobbes> lexvegas: Depends on how you define "working knowledge" I know a number of things about them, probably not everything though
[02:00] <hobbes> I don't really understand why that is pertinant to whether I should put the storage partition of the hard drive as NTSF in a duel boot though
[02:01] <lighta> because windows can't read other format well
[02:01] <lighta> that all
[02:01] <lexvegas> hobbes: basically what you need to know is that each OS needs to have its own partition (windows actually uses two) and each partition has its own file system (FS) windows needs NTFS and linux can use almost anything, but EXT4 is ideal. if you wanted, you could have a common partition formatted as NTFS that could be accessed by both OSes, much like an external HDD
[02:02] <Radicalsouthern> hey guys i tried to edit my xconfig file i then rebooted and its hung on the splash screen
[02:02] <Radicalsouthern> how can i get a shell
[02:02] <Radicalsouthern> ?
[02:02] <lexvegas> hobbes: sorry, i misinterpreted your q. if you wanted to do a partition to be shared between the two OSes, then I would use NTFS
[02:02] <lighta> Radicalsouthern, xterm ?
[02:02] <hobbes> Lexvegas: thankyou
[02:02] <Radicalsouthern> is thier a hotkey/
[02:03] <Radicalsouthern> ?
[02:03] <Radicalsouthern> lighta
[02:03] <Radicalsouthern> there
[02:03] <lexvegas> hobbes: sorry i mangled your question
[02:03] <lighta> Radicalsouthern, alt+f2 xterm
[02:03] <Radicalsouthern> ty
[02:03] <hobbes> With 8gb ram, why should I let win7 have any page file space though?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: because win7 will chew your ram
[02:05] <lexvegas> hobbes: if you want to hibernate, i believe you need enough pagefile space to encompass your ram, but you can probably safely cut down on the amount that you have if you disable hibernation, although thats a windows thing
[02:05] <rww> Windows uses a separate file for hibernation, not the swapfile.
[02:05] <spow_> hey guys, is there a way to limit the CD drive speed ? I'm watching a movie and it's really really noisy !
[02:05] <lexvegas> oops, sorry. I guess thats why i help on #ubuntu not #windows haha
[02:06] <WXZ> how do I move a user's home directory?
[02:06] <hobbes> So is it very hard to switch from ubuntu 10.10 to 10.4 or visa versa? Or to convert to a different linux distro altogether?
[02:07] <WXZ> not all of home, just the user's directory... to another partition
[02:07] <bastidrazor> Renfield: in response to your question 5 hours ago. No, an update to the service will not rename it.
[02:07] <debianmike> WXA:  edit /etc/password  for that user
[02:07] <WXZ> hobbes: not in my experience, I did it
[02:07] <jrib> WXZ: or just symlink
[02:08] <jrib> WXZ: is there anything else in the other partition or will it solely be used for the user's home?
[02:08] <hobbes> So ubuntu is the best distro for a linux newbie?
[02:08] <lexvegas> spow_: i believe the program you want to look into is hdpram, although i have no experience with it personally
[02:08] <WXZ> jrib: soley for user's home
[02:08] <jrib> hobbes: it's a good distro (for beginners and experts), try it out
[02:08] <juniour> spow_ you wanna to decrease the speed of ur cd-rom
[02:08] <Radicalsouthern> is there anyway to kill the splash screen?
[02:08] <WXZ> debianmike: there is no etc/password
[02:08] <spow_> lexvegas : will look into it ty
[02:08] <lighta> I can't define best
[02:08] <jrib> WXZ: you could just mount the partition to /home/whatever then (and move the data over)
[02:08] <spow_> juniour : yep
[02:08] <Radicalsouthern> lighta
[02:09] <lighta> ?
[02:09] <Radicalsouthern> anyway to stop the splash screen
[02:09] <hobbes> jrib: is it the best for linux newbies though?
[02:09] <juniour> spow_ youcna use eject -x 4
[02:09] <Radicalsouthern> the only way i did it was alt control delete then f2
[02:09] <jrib> hobbes: "best" is subjective.  I think it's a great distro for beginners.  Give it a try and see if you like it
[02:09] <WXZ> jrib: ok, I'll try that
[02:09] <lighta> the splash screen ? you mean when login to ubuntu ?
[02:09] <bastidrazor> Radicalsouthern: in /etc/default/grub you remove "splash" from #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[02:09] <Radicalsouthern> but it reboot
[02:09] <Radicalsouthern> s
[02:09] <juniour> spow_ or
[02:09] <juniour> eject -x 16
[02:09] <juniour> eject -x 32
[02:09] <Radicalsouthern> yes lighta
[02:09] <WXZ> jrib: it has to automatically mount when I turn the computer on though right
[02:09] <hobbes> And its among the most secure?
[02:09] <lexvegas> Radicalsouthern: startup-manager should do it. there should be a tick box to disable boot splash
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: its aimed at them, doesn't make it the best
[02:10] <juniour> this all will decrease ur cd-rom speed
[02:10] <hobbes> For making purchases etc?
[02:10] <jrib> WXZ: yeah, just set it up in /etc/fstab
[02:10] <jrib> !fstab > WXZ
[02:10] <spow_> juniour : that made it, thank you so much !
[02:10] <lighta> check bastidrazor anwser Radicalsouthern
[02:10] <Radicalsouthern> i jacked my xorg
[02:10] <juniour> k
[02:10] <bastidrazor> Radicalsouthern: you will also need to: sudo update-grub :afterwards
[02:10] <WXZ> jrib: can't get private messages
[02:10] <Radicalsouthern> it boots to splash screen and hangs
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: the design is quite secure if you use it properly, however other distros implement security differently, it's not the most or least secure
[02:10] <jrib> !fstab | WXZ
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> Radicalsouthern: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[02:12] <researcher1> My Ubuntu stopped booting so I formated drive C installed XP.Now trying to install Ubuntu from Live CD but it takes infinite time to proceed
[02:12] <juniour> spow_ use eject -X to see the current speed of ur cd-rom
[02:12] <aeon-ltd> researcher1: md5 the iso
[02:12] <aeon-ltd> !md5 | researcher1
[02:12] <hobbes> ActionParsnip: Compared to other newbie friendly distros higher in the security department?
[02:12] <conee> hey, linux noob here.  i have a question regarding the ps3 eye.  the video works fine, mic works fine, BUT....in order for the mic to work (after resuming from suspend, cold boot, or reboot) i need to unplug it and replug it back in.  anyone have any idea what would do this?
[02:12] <GM3D> yep, iso seems corrupt
[02:12] <Athenon> soooo how does one go about pulling up a gui session on a linux server?  i mean, i could use vnc, but i was hoping for something a bit more.....native
[02:12] <researcher1> aeon-ltd: what do i do
[02:13] <GM3D> compare the md5 has researcher
[02:13] <researcher1> !md5
[02:13] <researcher1> !md5
[02:13] <spow_> juniour : yep, that's it, it works great ty :D
[02:13] <researcher1> !md5
[02:13] <Radicalsouthern> i don't think i have a start up manager lex
[02:13] <lighta> Athenon, ? a gui on a server ?
[02:13] <Athenon> yes
[02:14] <Radicalsouthern> it only asks what bootloader
[02:14] <researcher1> GM3D : what do I do
[02:14] <Radicalsouthern> i don't see a manager
[02:14] <lighta> hmmm let me think I remenber anwsering this, even I don't see why
[02:14] <Stimo> anybody works with ubuntu on a mac here by any chance? pm me pls
[02:14] <GM3D> ok researcher follow whats in this text
[02:14] <GM3D> !md5
[02:15] <GM3D> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[02:15] <Athenon> lighta:  for example, if i want a centralized server and dummy terminals
[02:15] <GM3D> if the md5 is different from the actual file, its corrupt
[02:15] <Athenon> keeps client costs down.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> !mac | Stimo
[02:16] <blacklab> Hey whats up,  is this a good place to ask questions i take it?
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> blacklab: regarding Ubuntu only, yes
[02:16] <hobbes> What are some of the other linux distros targeted for newbies?
[02:16] <edbian> hobbes, linux mint
[02:17] <schnuffle> hobbes: mint, opensuse I would say
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: check www.dictrowatch.com
[02:17] <edbian> hobbes, What's wrong with Ubuntu?
[02:17] <hobbes> I didn't say there was, I am just trying to decide
[02:17] <edbian> ActionParsnip,  I wouldn't advice people to go to DICtrowatch.com
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> www.distrowatch.com  sorry
[02:17] <edbian> ActionParsnip, haha
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> edbian: typo
[02:18] <hobbes> You guys figure ubunto is more or less secure then mint?
[02:18] <schnuffle> hobbes: ubuntu for gnome is a good choice, for KDE suse is better
[02:19] <edbian> hobbes, They're the same level of security: excellent
[02:19] <schnuffle> hobbes: security is much more user dependend than distro dependend
[02:19]  * edbian agrees with schnuffle 
[02:19] <blacklab> ok this is weird,  I don't know what just happened but my main menu is not on the panel (where it should have an ubuntu logo and "applications" "system" etc
[02:19] <hobbes> I don't know the difference between gnome and KDE though, can one convert one to the other?
[02:19] <LinuxNoob> www.grc.com
[02:19] <edbian> blacklab, so add it
[02:20] <aerofly5> I need advice. I used to write Visual Basic running windows, but because I switched to linux, I can't do that any more. So, should I learn C++ or Python? Those were the two I was considering, but if you have better suggestions, please let me know. I am looking for something quick to learn and easy to use
[02:20] <LinuxNoob> thats how u can see if your computer is secure, we use this site all the time :D
[02:20] <schnuffle> hobbes: you can even run both
[02:20] <lighta> Athenon, you said you didn't want xvnc ?
[02:20] <edbian> hobbes, you run one or the other.  It's basically the entire GUI your'e using.  Just google image search to see the difference
[02:20] <blacklab> learn Python... to the guy who asked
[02:20] <aeon-ltd> aerofly5: that belongs in #programming
[02:20] <edbian> schnuffle, You cannot run both at once can you?
[02:20] <aerofly5> aeon-ltd: thanks, I'll check that out
[02:21] <schnuffle> aerofly5: python with pyQt is the way to go
[02:21] <hobbes> So its relatively easy to switch between them?
[02:21] <Athenon> lighta:  yeah, i'm looking for something a little more native...the idea is i turn the computer on, then on the remote clients, they can just put in their username and password and they have a gui session
[02:21] <edbian> hobbes, It's very easy to install both.  Then when you log in you can choose which one to boot
[02:21] <lexvegas> blacklab: right click on the panel and click add to panel and then drag menu bar to where you want the launcher to be
[02:21] <schnuffle> edbian: not at the same time but onthe same PC
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> edbian: one will be the one running, you can use the libs from the other DEs if they are installed (allowing you to run KDE apps in Gnome etc)
[02:21] <edbian> schnuffle, aaa, yes
[02:21] <edbian> ActionParsnip, yes I knew that :)
[02:22] <hobbes> So if its just a GUI, then how can one distro be better with one, and another distro being better with the other?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: if you look at what apps are in both desktops to see which suit you, then use which you prefer. Or just try both for a time and evaluate that way
[02:22] <blacklab> Ok i have a question,  I want to create a custom ISO,  as I have done before,  but is there a way to have my customized menu items appear on root AND as regular user?
[02:22] <juniour> is there any command to remove the installed software
[02:22] <juniour> ?
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: because the distro is a LOT more than just which DE is used
[02:22] <hobbes> DE?
[02:22] <schnuffle> hobbes: because the integration into the whole system is different. ubuntu has more focus on gnome, suse more on KDE
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> juniour: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[02:23] <edbian> hobbes, minor tweaks and changes.  It's a minimal difference really
[02:23] <juniour>  thanks
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: DE == desktop environment (Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE etc)
[02:23] <blacklab> for example,  when i customize my menu as a regular user,  it will not look the same under root... and vice versa... is there a way to have static menus for all users?
[02:23] <edbian> juniour, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[02:24] <lighta> ah I see Athenon well idk, maybe check for X11 tuneling, that you'll preconfigure on your client machine ?
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: Mandriva also uses KDE like KUbuntu but the underlying OS is different and configured different to KUbuntu, it also uses RPM instead of DEB (for example)
[02:24] <Athenon> lighta:  any suggestions for windows x servers?
[02:24] <schnuffle> Athenon: cygwinX
[02:24] <Radicalsouthern> ok i got it into safe kernel mode finally
[02:24] <Radicalsouthern> lol
[02:25] <Radicalsouthern> i typed update grub
[02:25] <Radicalsouthern> selected rather
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> Athenon: you can use putty + xming too
[02:25] <Radicalsouthern> does it default my xorg file?
[02:25] <hobbes> I know the distros is alot more then which DE is used, in which case, why should distro matter at all for what amounts to a bit more then a gui
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> Radicalsouthern: grub is nothing to do with xorg.conf
[02:25] <schnuffle> Athenon: Xming is just the X server, CygwinX is a whole unix env
[02:25] <blacklab> when i create a customized ISO of Ubuntu...  is it best to install all my files... create all my menus as root? or should i do them all under regular priviledges?
[02:25] <Athenon> ActionParsnip:  yeah ive used xming before and it was annoying.  although, i really don't know how to configure this stuff anymore.  i havent done it in ages
[02:26] <edbian> hobbes, there is waaaaaay more going on than the gui :)  The package manager in any distro is a huge deal
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: because each distro has different aims
[02:26] <Radicalsouthern> how can i default it?
[02:26] <M-sprite> hi
[02:26] <Radicalsouthern> im in a term as root
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Radicalsouthern: boot to root recovery mode and run:  Xorg -configure
[02:26] <Radicalsouthern> thanks action
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> Radicalsouthern: you can't run it with X running, hence root recovery
[02:27] <schnuffle> M-sprite: hi
[02:27] <DaViDieL> hello i need some help with isntaling some modem driver can any1 help me?
[02:27] <Radicalsouthern> ok
[02:27] <Radicalsouthern> thanks action
[02:27] <schnuffle> !ask M-sprite
[02:28] <blacklab> hmmmm a lil too congested here to expect a response i suppose,  that's what i get for coming in here on a saturday night at this time ;)
[02:28] <schnuffle> !ask | M-sprite
[02:28] <LinuxNoob> what was the question?
[02:29] <DaViDieL> who knows how instal zte mze30 modem on ubuntu 10.10? plz give some drivers
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: is it a usb modem or an internal PCI one?
[02:29] <DaViDieL> zte mze30 is a usb mdoem
[02:29] <LinuxNoob> doesnt matter
[02:29] <LinuxNoob> i can help ya
[02:29] <chachin> yo
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: ok then run:  lsusb   1 line will have an 8 character hex ID which will identify the device
[02:29] <hobbes> Hmm, pictures don't help me much, I sure could use a good way to pick between options
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> LinuxNoob: it does matter
[02:30] <chachin> im new to ubuntu and want to know what are some cool things to do :)
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> chachin: what interests you
[02:30] <schnuffle> blacklab: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[02:30] <hobbes> Do linux distros get along well on the same partition?
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> devhell: you can use that ID to find guides
[02:30] <edbian> chachin, learn to log in remotely
[02:30] <edbian> hobbes, yes
[02:30] <schnuffle> hobbes:  each distro should use its own partition
[02:30] <chachin> ActionParsnip,  i wanted to run an eggbot on windows. but it keeps puking errors. so i installed ubuntu :)
[02:31] <edbian> hobbes, some people have more than 3 different linuxes installed on one computer!
[02:31] <schnuffle> hobbes: but you can build a multi distro live usb to test all of them without installing
[02:31] <hobbes> Linux allows changing partitions on the fly?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> chachin: looks fancy, pretty
[02:31] <edbian> hobbes, if you use a live CD yes
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> devhell: boot to liveCD and you can run the command
[02:31] <chachin> Ubuntu 10.10 looks awsome
[02:31] <chachin> :o
[02:31] <edbian> hobbes, you can't edit partitions that are mounted, but with a live CD none of them are mounted
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> chachin: its fully themable so you can change it as you like
[02:32] <blacklab> ty shnuffle,  i managed to get it back already ,  at least partially lol.   I'm afraid to set it back to default cuz i've customized so much of the menu.   that's why I was asking about the custom ISO creation and static menus for all users
[02:32] <edbian> chachin, it's pretty nice :)
[02:32] <DaViDieL> actionparsnip i dont have yet instaled ubuntu i cant understand what you meen with raning isusb - i dont know what is this , can i have simple link wich contains usb modem drivers? im in place where i cant get any help with some network so i cant isntal ubuntu till i not get driver to get connect network after i instal ubunt ( hope you understand my english )
[02:32] <mrmcpowned> hey :D
[02:32] <hobbes> So I should put different linux distros on their own partitions and try them till I find one I like?
[02:32] <blacklab> i was just curious on how/if it can be done
[02:32] <mrmcpowned> Does anyone know if it is possible to change the iptables via FTP?
[02:32] <blacklab> Hobbes,  you should try VMware
[02:33] <wurl> where are programs like "cd" stored on a linux system
[02:33] <blacklab> you can load different Linux Distributions into VMware,  run them as live CDs and see what you think
[02:33] <Pici> wurl: cd is a shell built-in.
[02:33] <hobbes> VMare is free?
[02:33] <edbian> hobbes, That's a ton of work.  I suggest you download and burn live CD's until you find one you like.  Honestly though you won't know what you like for a quite a while.
[02:33] <mrmcpowned> hobbes: Nope
[02:33] <aeon-ltd> mrmcpowned: no, buts its definitely possible via ssh
[02:33] <blacklab> Vmware player is free yes,  there is a bit of a learning curve
[02:33] <quazimodo> hay hay
[02:33] <lighta> hobbes, I think he mean virtualisation
[02:33] <edbian> wurl, /bin
[02:33] <lighta> you can use virtual box
[02:33] <edbian> hobbes, virtualbox is free
[02:33] <mrmcpowned> aeon-ltd: more like impossible if you just changed teh port but forgot to add it in the iptables >.<
[02:34] <mrmcpowned> the*
[02:34] <hobbes> Link please
[02:34] <blacklab> youmight be better off putting burning Live CDs or learning how to put live distributions on a thumb drive if you have one
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> mrmcpowned: this a server?
[02:34] <edbian> hobbes, just google it
[02:34] <mrmcpowned> aeon-ltd: Yup.
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> mrmcpowned: oh boy .......
[02:34] <mrmcpowned> Yeha
[02:34] <DaViDieL> i need driver for my usb modem - zte mze30 - i dont have ubuntu yet on my computer im runing windows vista and i cant instal ubuntu until i dont have driver - any1 knwo where i can download it? (zte company site not contains drivers for my modem )
[02:34] <mrmcpowned> yeah*
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: instead of asking for links, why not research a little yourself, you will learn more
[02:34] <mrmcpowned> i dont look forward to reinstalling ubuntu server :|
[02:35] <quazimodo> i am running 10.04 xubuntu; i need to run some scripts when i log in and i want these run regardless of my window manager. I cant seem to find a .xsession or .xinit file, i am curious what happens here?
[02:35] <hobbes> But for my first one, you guys think I should try ubuntu? Those who have tried others only please.
[02:35] <nit-wit> DaViDieL, are you sure you need one?
[02:35] <DaViDieL> where to search? i have try but cant find nothing
[02:35] <schnuffle> hobbes: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/sardu-multiboot-usb-creator-windows/
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: sure, give it a go
[02:35] <edbian> hobbes, def start with Ubuntu :)
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: what is the ID?
[02:35] <DaViDieL> thank you
[02:35] <mrmcpowned> Ubuntu via vmware is awesome
[02:35] <blacklab> yeah thats what i was thinking Schnuffle... i've used that a ton
[02:36] <lighta> quazimodo, aren't they in etc/init.d or something like that instead ?
[02:36] <blacklab> love it
[02:36] <lighta> let me check
[02:36] <schnuffle> hobbes: yes ubuntu is the best choice for beginners. my opinion
[02:36] <mrmcpowned> Especially how I can fullscreen my vm :D
[02:36] <DaViDieL> actionparsnip id of my modem?
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: yes
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: that the lsusb command gave
[02:36] <schnuffle> blacklab: me to, have always a stick with all I need
[02:36] <blacklab> to the guy looking for a ZTE driver for a modem... http://list.driverguide.com/list/company3282/LINUX/
[02:36] <nit-wit> DaViDieL, just boot a live Ubuntu cd and see if it works as is.
[02:36] <DaViDieL> 1 second i look in device manager - im runing vista
[02:36] <christopher> For beginners I would suggest ubuntu or ZoronOS4
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: that won't say
[02:36] <quazimodo> lighta: previously i used to run startx and i knew what was up, atm gdm takes care of login and x is already up so im not sure which home file gets read whin i log in
[02:36] <aeon-ltd> christopher: ubuntu
[02:36] <juniour>  mrmcpowned set the screen resolution
[02:37] <DaViDieL> nit-wit i know they not work with ubuntu
[02:37] <hobbes> Well I don't think a live disk is a good way to test out the others, I will need to actually try them on their own terms
[02:37] <hobbes> For awhile
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: boot to ubuntu and run the lsusb command and you will find the ID, Device manager is too abstracted to be of any use at all
[02:37] <DaViDieL> actionparsnip then how i can look on vista id of my modem?
[02:37] <mrmcpowned> juniour: Why? It automatically changes it when i set the machine to fullscreen
[02:37] <kthakore> after an upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 won't recognize the iphone
[02:37] <hobbes> But I can/should just put each on their own partition, then delete when I no longer want them?
[02:37] <DaViDieL> okey im downloading atm ubuntu
[02:37] <DaViDieL> thank you guys
[02:37] <lighta> hmm I see quazimodo, well I'd give a try on /etc/init.d just put a dummy sh there and you'll know. I can't help more sorry
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> DaViDieL: you can't as far as I know, its too retarded. You can do it in a liveCD though. The link given earlier may help
[02:38] <juniour>  mrmcpowned i dient get you?
[02:38] <DaViDieL> im going to look in that link atm - thank you
[02:38] <mrmcpowned> Exactly, you didnt get me :D
[02:38] <edbian> hobbes, if you virtualize or use the live cd you don't have to make partitions at all
[02:38] <blacklab> Hobbes,  if you have plenty of DVD-Rs floating around,  I would go that method... and if you have a Thumb Drive,  you might want ot look into that
[02:39] <blacklab> someone posted a link to a great utility for thumb drive live distributions
[02:39] <blacklab> it will DL them for you,  and put them on a flash drive if you have one
[02:39] <blacklab> it doesnt get much easier
[02:39] <anonboots> Unetbootin
[02:39] <mrmcpowned> blacklab: I'd say to stickwith the dvd. Thumb drive is only if the mobo supports it.
[02:39] <blacklab> thank you anon
[02:39] <anonboots> Derp.
[02:39] <lighta> yeah look like unetbootin
[02:39] <blacklab> yeah it's the easiest method too MRM
[02:39] <hobbes> Well, if I am using live disks, it will be limited in what I can do
[02:39] <blacklab> hobbes,  you are just wanting to test to see what you like ... correct?
[02:40] <lighta> hobbes, why didn't you took virtual box ?
[02:40] <lighta> very easy to set
[02:40] <hobbes> I bet I will need to use each for some time in detail to really know
[02:40] <lighta> as easy as burning cd
[02:40] <mrmcpowned> lighta: Doesnt virtualbox use java?
[02:40] <edbian> hobbes, You're not very limited in a live CD at all actually (it's awesome)
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: no, its just made by the same folks
[02:40] <lighta> well maybe what the point ?
[02:40] <hobbes> And speed is also a issue, and running off a CD, a USB flash, or in a virual environment will definitely slow things down
[02:40] <mrmcpowned> Also, virtualbox is limited to some systems i believe
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: define "limited"
[02:41] <mrmcpowned> lemme see
[02:41] <lighta> do you mean by speed or cpu usage ?
[02:41] <WXZ> jrib: what options do I set on fstab if I'm trying to mount the user's directory
[02:41] <mrmcpowned> adn i dont mean featurewise though
[02:41] <mrmcpowned> and*
[02:41] <blacklab> well Hobbes,   then I would recommend 3 methods...  VMware,  Thumbdrive,  or Hard Drive persistent installation
[02:41] <mrmcpowned> lighta: I mean by certain computers
[02:41] <mrmcpowned> yeah
[02:41] <mrmcpowned> its an x86 only product
[02:41] <lighta> of course virtualisation is always less good then original but for a try i'd beok
[02:41] <mrmcpowned> x64 systems cant run it
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: it can make low end systems struggle if yuo assign too much resource to the virtual system
[02:42] <blacklab> virtualization would be the way i'd go,  but thats just me
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: my 32bit dualcore intel can, it is x86
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: you can run a 64bit virtualbox and if your CPU has special features you can run 64bit guest OSes
[02:42] <mrmcpowned> I dont see why a simple 64 bit drive cant run it. A single 64 bit chip has more power than a single 32 bit chip
[02:42] <lighta> hmmm but since it 'd run this on a old bet I don't think it's gonna be a x64 system
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: depends what you run on it
[02:43] <lighta> otherwise he could take a lot of parralele of wmware yeah
[02:43] <WXZ> how do I move a user's home directory to another partition, I set the partition to mount to /home/username and copied all the files over to that partition, but I don't know if I set the options right
[02:43] <lighta> parrallele or* wmare sorry
[02:43] <mrmcpowned> ActionParsnip: i remember trying to dl it on a 64 bit system i had
[02:43] <edbian> mrmcpowned, Just so you're aware it's x86 -> 32 bit (traditional x86) or amd64 (which is 64 bit OS) but they're both technically x86
[02:43] <blacklab> I'm looking for a good Custom Ubunut Live CD tutorial,   not as far as CREATING the image,   but as far as getting it ready for creation.... customizing menus etc... if anyone has something... that would be great
[02:43] <edbian> WXZ, edit the /etc/passwd file
[02:43] <mrmcpowned> It wouldnt let me install it saying it wasnt a 32 bit system
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> !remaster | blacklab
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: then the cpu wasnt 64bit
[02:44] <WXZ> edbian: edit it how?
[02:44] <hobbes> blacklab: I spoke of how best to do itn with HDD persistant instillation so that its still easy to add and remove them
[02:44] <blacklab> i know remastersys,  what i'm talking about is BEFORE you do the remastersys...  the customization of Ubuntu in general
[02:44] <edbian> WXZ, gksudo gedit /etc/passwd   :)
[02:44] <hobbes> I was asking how to do that.
[02:44] <mrmcpowned> edbian: I know tehy are both x86, thast why i can run 32 bit windows on an amd drive :P
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> blacklab: how is it different?
[02:44] <mrmcpowned> ActionParsnip: that didnt make sense :\
[02:44] <Snowman1> is there anyway possible to fix the error 132 in world of warcraft at the start up?
[02:45] <anonboots> LOL
[02:45] <lighta> hobbes, how to do what ?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: if the installer doesnt see a 64bit CPU and you are using the 64bit installer, it will tell you and stop the install
[02:45] <WXZ> edbian: nvm, it's editted correctly
[02:45] <blacklab> again,  when I customized ubuntu before,   I did everything under root... i created menus and they didnt show up on a regular user after the installation of the ISO
[02:45] <leapy0yo> is there a good program to download newsgroup binaries for ubuntu?
[02:45] <edbian> WXZ, hahah, ok :)
[02:45] <WXZ> edbian: the last line is username:x:1001:1001:vlad,,,,:/home/username:/bin/bash
[02:45] <mrmcpowned> ActionParsnip: But i was runing a 64 bit os on a 64 bit cpy
[02:45] <mrmcpowned> cpu*
[02:45] <WXZ> and I set my partition to mount at that location
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> blacklab: then chown the files and such
[02:45] <hobbes> lighta: Install different linux versions on a hard drive so they get along, yet so they are easy to add and remove.
[02:45] <edbian> WXZ, Is that the correct path to their home folder?  now that you moved it?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: oh are you talking about a GUEST OS in virtualbox??
[02:46] <blacklab> which files would i Chown for the menu?
[02:46] <topo> Hey, How can I share a folder thats in a different partition using samba???
[02:46] <WXZ> yes edbian
[02:46] <edbian> WXZ, then is there any problem ? :)
[02:46] <WXZ> yes edbian
[02:46] <mrmcpowned> ActionParsnip: i was speaking of actually installing virtualbox
[02:46] <edbian> WXZ, what is the problem?
[02:46] <leapy0yo> is there a good program to download newsgroup binaries for ubuntu?
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> topo: as long as the partition is mounted, it doesn't matter where the folder is
[02:46] <WXZ> when I try to login to that user, I get a blank screen
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: virtualbox will install from the repos and match the arch of the installed host OS
[02:46] <WXZ> I just see the wallpaper and that's it, then I get a couple of errors... let me try again and I'll tell you exactly what they are
[02:47] <edbian> WXZ, that would be very helpful.  It's probably a read / write issue
[02:47] <lighta> well you wont really install them, you don't need to install a linux distro to use it, well you could but live cd is fine..
[02:47] <mrmcpowned> ActionParsnip: Ah, well i guess it doesnt matter now since I use VmWare :)
[02:47] <mrmcpowned> Way better than virtualbox imo :D
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> mrmcpowned: iyho, maybe
[02:47] <mrmcpowned> ActionParsnip: Exacty ;)
[02:48] <hobbes> lighta You can't install programs on a live CD, and live CD won't tell me how fast it will run off the hard drive. And if I am running a OS off a live CD on a regular bases, that is unnecessary wear on the DVD player, and I cant use the DVD player for other things if I am running a OS off it
[02:48] <Aikar> i just moved my hdds to a completely new hardware (new cpu mobo ram) and ubuntu booted fine (minus mount errors due to hdd being in diff order), but got this, any ideas? "The panel encountered a problem while loading 'OAFIID:GNOME_MultiLoadApplet'"
[02:48] <mrmcpowned> anyways, i gotta go and manage my host :P Hopefully that server i screwed up was a small test server with soem bots and stuff on it. See ya guys!
[02:48] <WXZ> edbian: I get "there is a problem with ICEauthority"
[02:48] <topo> ActionParsnip: The thing is that if a share a folder thats in the home directory I have no problem but with a partition the xp machines can see the folder but they cant access it
[02:49] <hobbes> lighta: all those are reasons to actually install on the HDD, and why shouldn't I actually install on the HDD?
[02:49] <edbian> WXZ, sudo chown -R <userName>:<userName> /home/<userName>
[02:49] <edbian> WXZ, Make them the owner of everything in there.
[02:49] <topo> ActionParsnip: the partition is mounted automatically on boot and I do have permissions
[02:49] <WXZ> after logging into their account right
[02:49] <edbian> hobbes, It takes about 30 - 40 minutes
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> topo: you may need to run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER   so users can authenticate as the user who's home data you are sharing  and get access
[02:50] <edbian> WXZ, no, logging in to some account that works
[02:50] <hobbes> edbian: what does?
[02:50] <WXZ> oh, alright
[02:50] <evilvish> is it possible to make a live USB of a fedora iso from Ubuntu? (i was planning on testing the shell alpha live usb and was hoping to make the usb from Ubuntu using startup disk creator)
[02:50] <capslord> hello all. I have a question :) I have League of Legends installed on a hard drive and I have been playing it on Windows boot. Is it possible to play it on Ubuntu without installing again. Can use the already installed game??
[02:50] <lighta> hmm can sure can hobbes, you're totally free hehe but there alot of distro, it'll take lof of space if you want to try them and time if you want to install
[02:51] <edbian> hobbes, installing to the hdd
[02:51] <edbian> WXZ, lemme know if it still isn't fixed
[02:51] <WXZ> edbian: should I restart, or just log off their account and then log back in?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> evilvish: you can use unetbootin
[02:51] <hobbes> It takes time to burn them to CD too
[02:51] <edbian> WXZ, log off, log back in
[02:51] <edbian> hobbes, yes
[02:51] <lighta> it just a question of time and space, but you can manage all that, when I mean live cd it wasn't dvd or cd but just a non persitent os sorry for mistexplaining
[02:51] <Snowman1> Why is it that whenever i do [sudo wine WoW.exe --opengl] i get wine is not owned by you? how do i change that?
[02:51] <edbian> hobbes, but to install to the hdd you first have to burn to cd, then install
[02:51] <evilvish> ActionParsnip: OK, cool! thanks.
[02:51] <hobbes> Anyway, I won't install them all at once, I will install maybe two at a time, that is why I was inquiring about making it easy to add and remove them
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Snowman1: you should NOT run wine with root
[02:52] <edbian> hobbes, If you load the live CD you'll see, it is totally unnecessary to install if you're going to try other distros
[02:52] <cleatus> wow brand new to irc here
[02:52] <hobbes> I understand there are ways to install from the hard drive
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> evilvish: users have their own wine apps in staled in their homes, so sudo is not needed
[02:52] <edbian> cleatus, you like it?
[02:52] <cleatus> dont know that was like my hello world irc
[02:52] <lighta> well edbian in a way he's right full distro power would be reach when it's read from hdd istead usb or whatever
[02:52] <topo> ActionParsnip: two n00b questions. $USER is my user name right? and Will that technique require xp users to enter a password to access the share?
[02:53] <WXZ> edbian: wouldn't happen to know how to log out of an account using the keyboard alone?... there's no GUI on that account
[02:53] <cleatus> lol first time and all (blushis')
[02:53] <YankeesFan> Fuck you ubuntu
[02:53] <mikeliss> Anybody know a trick for keeping an SSH session open after it's already started and running a LONG script?
[02:53] <YankeesFan> windows 7 is better
[02:53] <capslord> can I run a game with wine even if it is installed to a hard dirve on windows?
[02:53] <lighta> but even here I don't know if you'll see the diff well, since the hardware can influe, hope you have good testbench set
[02:53] <YankeesFan> Fuck you ubuntu
[02:53] <Snowman1> im new to this os. so do i need to stop wine or change root or something?
[02:53] <evilvish> !ops | YankeesFan
[02:53] <YankeesFan> Snowman1, dont use ubuntu it sucks
[02:53] <edbian> lighta, yeah, I suppose.
[02:54] <Snowman1> lol
[02:54] <cleatus> any people here familiar with xampp worpress and proftpd?
[02:54] <edbian> WXZ, ctrl + alt + backspace?
[02:54] <edbian> WXZ, alt + sysrq + k
[02:54] <lighta> cleatus, use lampp on linux
[02:54] <Snowman1> YankeesFan, but windows sucks even harder
[02:54] <WXZ> sysrq?
[02:54] <cleatus> doin it cant auto update wordpress
[02:54] <hobbes> So, what is the best way to put on different linux versions so one can easily add and remove them?
[02:55] <hobbes> On HDD
[02:55] <edbian> WXZ, sys request, it's on there just look for it usually about home / end / page up / page down
[02:55] <lighta> lampp very easy to use, I was just little upset I had to take off my other sql, and ftp to let it run entirely but it was ok
[02:55] <Snowman1> chown [OPTION]... [OWNER][:[GROUP]] FILE...      <<<<is this the command needed to change owners? or is the internet dicking me around again?
[02:55] <cleatus> works fine in my vbox windoze install
[02:55] <edbian> hobbes, just tell each installer not to overright.  Try it out, it's easy and straight forward when you get to that point
[02:56] <hobbes> And easily to remove each when your done, without having too much removed?(like part of another distro)
[02:56] <mikeliss> Anybody know how to keep ssh open?
[02:56] <WXZ> alt + sysrq + k = no
[02:56] <edbian> hobbes, what?  Having to much remove?  part of another distro?
[02:56] <tonsofpcs> mikeliss: don't disconnect?
[02:56] <edbian> WXZ, switch to tty1 and restart
[02:56] <mikeliss> I need to like, send the shift key every five minutes or something.
[02:56] <WXZ> w/e, I'll just restart it'll be faster
[02:56] <edbian> WXZ, yeah
[02:56] <mikeliss> So it thinks I'm around.
[02:57] <cleatus> and xampp for linux is lampp they just renamed it to xampp
[02:57] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, it'll boot me when it goes idle for too long.
[02:57] <Jeroenz0r> ping
[02:57] <tonsofpcs> mikeliss: (1) what's wrong with your ssh session closing? (2) I doubt the sshd is doing that.  Probably a connection thing.
[02:57] <hobbes> edbian: Since linux programs might share some files, won't removing one potenitally remove part of another?
[02:57] <cleatus> any xampp users here?
[02:57] <tonsofpcs> cleatus: plenty.
[02:57] <lighta> cleatus, isn't what I said ?
[02:57] <cleatus> familiar with word press?
[02:57] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, I have a script running in it that I can't stop. SSH gives the boot eventually when idle.
[02:58] <edbian> hobbes, no, since they're on separate partitions they won't share any files at all.
[02:58] <tonsofpcs> mikeliss: why not run it inside screen?
[02:58] <mikeliss> Too late for that...I forgot...again.
[02:58] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, ^^^
[02:58] <edbian> hobbes, You could tell them to share some things, that would be needlessly complicated and would only save minimal amounts of space.  Especially because the distros do not expect this to happen
[02:58] <tonsofpcs> mikeliss: ever see the simpsons episode where homer gets to work from home?
[02:58] <cleatus> lighta: ?
[02:59] <lighta> no it's ok
[02:59] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, ummm...maybe?
[02:59] <tonsofpcs> (alternatively, do you need data going both ways to keep it active, or can you just have a changing set of data returning to your client?)
[02:59] <hobbes> edbian: Ah, so the only way to properly do it, is to give each their own partition, right? So just delete a partition when I am done with a distro?
[02:59] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, wait...actually no. Now that I re-read your question.
[02:59] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, Wait, YES!
[02:59] <tonsofpcs> (homer uses one of those little birds that 'drinks' from a water glass and keeps bouncing to poke a key repeatedly :) )
[02:59] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, I need the shift key presser.
[03:00] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, I just need to send data to it from time to time, ideally.
[03:00] <edbian> hobbes, yep, and you can even install a distro in the same partition and it will erase what's there then install itself.  So you don't have to waste time erasing manually
[03:00] <hobbes> What about linux programs like wine, reinstall it anew for each distro?
[03:00] <edbian> hobbes, yep
[03:00] <edbian> mikeliss, There is a keep-alive option
[03:01] <WXZ> edbian: how do I find the partition of a directory?
[03:01] <edbian> mikeliss, sends packets for you that keep the connection alive even though you're not there.
[03:01] <WXZ> but I think it's working
[03:01] <edbian> WXZ, sudo fdisk -l  (or look in gparted)
[03:01] <mikeliss> edbian, too late for that, I'm afraid. Unless I can enable it after a session is set up.
[03:01] <edbian> WXZ, hurray! :)
[03:01]  * tonsofpcs has never had this problem with ssh... my larger problem is cable modems dropping enough packets for a connection to give up
[03:01] <topo> ActionParsnip: two n00b questions. $USER is my user name right? and Will that technique require xp users to enter a password to access the share?
[03:01] <edbian> mikeliss, Ooo, not that I know of :(
[03:01] <ubuntulinux> hey- linux and ubuntu are same? if i find drivers for linux will they work on ubuntu 10.10?
[03:01] <tonsofpcs> mikeliss: what client?
[03:01] <WXZ> no, I mean the "partition that the directory is on"
[03:02] <hobbes> edbian: Could I put programs like wine on a general storage NTSF partition so it doesn't need to be reinstalled each time?
[03:02] <edbian> ubuntulinux, Ubuntu is a distribution of linux.  The driver might work.  Probably only if it is labeled as the Ubuntu driver.
[03:02] <WXZ> like "fakecommandhere /home/username" would return /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something
[03:02] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, gnome-terminal
[03:02] <tonsofpcs> alternatively, can you background the process and reattach it inside screen?
[03:02] <brunner> I just installed Ubuntu on a new laptop (a Sony Vaio), using the alternate install CD, and the screen is garbled when it boots beyond the BIOS.  Are there any fail-proof xorg.conf settings I can use until I figure out why?
[03:02] <tonsofpcs> gnome-terminal is not an ssh client.
[03:02] <edbian> WXZ, df -h  shows where each root is mounted
[03:02] <edbian> WXZ, haha, fake command :)
[03:02] <ubuntulinux> thank you
[03:03] <WXZ> ok, I'm 95% sure it's working... it's impossible to have two partitions using the same folder right?
[03:03] <ubuntulinux> if i use MIRC how i can connect this chanel?
[03:03] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, hrmm...then it's just ssh, I'd guess?
[03:03] <edbian> WXZ, totally impossible
[03:03] <WXZ> 100% then
[03:03] <ubuntulinux> wich server i must connect ? dalnet? efnet? ... ?
[03:03] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, I could background it, and reattach in screen...if I knew how.
[03:03] <edbian> WXZ, yay! :)
[03:04] <rww> ubuntulinux: freenode
[03:04] <ubuntulinux> thank you
[03:04] <tonsofpcs> hmm... i wonder if you can set tcpkeepalive on the server end and rehash the config... (not sure if it will worrk with active connections)
[03:04] <hobbes> edbian: Could I put programs like wine on a general storage NTSF partition so it doesn't need to be reinstalled each time?
[03:05] <tonsofpcs> mikeliss: well, you can't do that with a lot of things, so probably not
[03:05] <jazz> hi, my sound working in ubuntu, but sound bnot working in xubuntu. anybody can help?
[03:05] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, got me, but looks like I have to run. Hopefully the script will keep going until I get back.
[03:05] <tonsofpcs> if not, restart it in screen
[03:05] <edbian> hobbes, you could if you used an ext3 or ext4 partition.  It might be kinda tricky.  Many programs take less than a minute to install though.
[03:06] <hobbes> Why couldn't I use the NTSF general storage partition?
[03:06] <seanlaptop> hello all
[03:06] <tonsofpcs> #1) you don't even know how to spell NTFS
[03:06] <tonsofpcs> hi sean
[03:06] <edbian> hobbes, linux can read NTSF partitions but ext3 or ext4 is the native fs :)  I suppose you could you NTFS
[03:06] <hobbes> Linux running on ext4, can still read NTFS, right?
[03:07] <hobbes> fs?
[03:07] <edbian> hobbes, It can, but ext4 is a better filesystem
[03:07] <edbian> hobbes, fs - filesystem
[03:07] <hobbes> Right, but I don't want to deal with too many partitions
[03:07] <acct1> hi all... my issue is with using vnc with netbook 10.10  I can connect, I can even operate applications but I just can't launch applications from the launch pad thing....anyone know a work around for this?
[03:08] <hobbes> Besides the clutter of partitions, theres the dividing of programs between them
[03:08] <hemisphere> Hi
[03:08] <seanlaptop> anyone out there wanna help me solve a filesharing issue
[03:08] <seanlaptop> ?
[03:08] <jazz> hi, my sound working in ubuntu, but sound bnot working in xubuntu. anybody can help?
[03:08] <Rush> hi, i believe i am having an issue with my network drivers as i have just installed a new trendnet te100-pciwin card and cannot access the internet
[03:08] <hobbes> Is ext4 Considerably better then NTFS?
[03:08] <edbian> hobbes, dividing the shared programs is going to be a pain because of the package managers of different distributions
[03:08] <hemisphere> My sound card could not be detected by Ubuntu. What should I do ?
[03:09] <edbian> hobbes, yeah
[03:09] <edbian> hobbes, It does not fragment the way ntfs does
[03:09] <jazz> seem ubuntu user got many sound problem
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Rush: is it a USB device or a PCI device?
[03:09] <Rush> pci
[03:10] <jazz> my sound card detected, but no sound. mixer setting check ok. still no sound
[03:10] <hobbes> edbian: I didn't understand that edbian, but will what ever you said, be more of a pain then reinstalling a bunch of programs each time? Are you saying I should do that for things like the rare linux game and so on?
[03:10] <hemisphere> jazz, did you try to turn up the volume ?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> Rush: ok then run:  sudo lshw -C network     you will see the CHIP used which is what you need, you can then websearch for guides
[03:11] <acct1> jazz ... are you sure "mute" isn't on?
[03:11] <jazz> hemisphere: yes. already turn up to maximum
[03:11] <HowardTheDuck> does anyone have a 4k sector hdd?
[03:11] <jazz> acct1: yes mute is not on
[03:11] <edbian> hobbes, I'm suggesting you shouldn't bother trying to share programs between distros installed on the same machine.  It's going to be more trouble than it is worth because of the package managers and the file structure of linux
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: plus the apps are very small, sharing a common swap partition is wise though
[03:12] <hemisphere> jazz, did the sound card problem just occured after an update ?
[03:12] <vychune> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10431993#post10431993
[03:12] <jazz> hemisphere: a fresh intall not working, after full update also not working
[03:12]  * edbian agrees with ActionParsnip sharing swap is a good idea
[03:12] <topo> ActionParsnip: two n00b questions. $USER is my user name right? and Will that technique require xp users to enter a password to access the share?
[03:13] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, Who needs a woodpecker when you can HOLD DOWN backspace!
[03:13] <hobbes> If its a 2gb game with saves, that will be more then a minor inconveniance having to delete and reinstall each time
[03:13] <hemisphere> jazz, seems like a search for ubuntu 10.10 sound problems did bring up lots of issues
[03:13] <mikeliss> tonsofpcs, I missed my last train btw...but now I really have to go.
[03:13] <edbian> hobbes, good luck finding a game like that on linux
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> topo: yes, it will change for yuo as it is a Linux variable
[03:14] <Jordan_U> !anyone | HowardTheDuck
[03:14] <hobbes> ActionParsnip: Please elaborate on "Common swap partition:
[03:14] <Rush> @ActionParsnip: i see what chip it is, in fact i have a set of drivers on cd, however, i have ubuntu 10.04 which i believe has the 2.6.x kernel, and the drivers are 2.2 and 2.4x
[03:14] <jazz> hemisphere: yesterday someone link me to ubuntu wiki, i follow whatever guide to troubleshoot, its still now working and im getting frustrated
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> topo: they will require the password ONCE, the OS can remember the credentials for you
[03:14] <edbian> hobbes, you should install linux instead of having people on IRC explain every element of it to you.  This will clear up many of these questions
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: linux benefits from a swap partition, are you aware of swap partitions?
[03:14] <hemisphere> jazz, mine couldn't even detect a single sound card all of a sudden
[03:14] <HowardTheDuck> i plan on buying a 2tb 4k sector hard dive to use as a media/storage drive on my win7/ubuntu 10.04 dual boot system.  do i need to worry about these alignment issues if i'm only using it for data, no os?
[03:14] <HowardTheDuck> im a bit confused
[03:15] <Ananas> My firefox, google chrome cannot connect to the internet although I'm talking from xchat now  and transmission torrent program is working too. Can anyone help me pls?
[03:15] <hobbes> ActionParsnip: You mean what is otherwise known as virtual memory on windows?
[03:15] <jazz> hemisphere: my lspci = Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value
[03:15] <edbian> hobbes, yeah
[03:15] <vychune> can i get a little help
[03:16] <hemisphere> jazz, there's a test button in the sound preferences right ?
[03:16] <Encry8> what's the command to add a word or something to a file without having to open it with text editor?
[03:16] <hemisphere> jazz, the Test Speaker button in Hardware tab
[03:16] <edbian> vychune, just ask the question!
[03:16] <edbian> Encry8, 'word'>>file.txt
[03:16] <hobbes> But I understand with enough RAM, there is no point to such a thing, that swap is only for when you run out of RAM
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: yes, linux has a partition for that, it is wise in windows to have a partition for virtual memory in windows too, it reduces fragmentation
[03:16] <jazz> hemisphere: im using xubuntu DE
[03:16] <Jordan_U> HowardTheDuck: You will have at the very least performance problems if things aren't aligned to 4k boundries, but [G]Parted is verygood at making sure that alignment is optimal.
[03:16] <edbian> hobbes, yeah, it's also used to hibernate and such
[03:16] <Encry8> edbian: thanks!
[03:17] <hemisphere> jazz, oh... xubuntu
[03:17] <edbian> hobbes, my system never touches my swap and I only have 1Gb of ram
[03:17] <edbian> Encry8, no problem
[03:17] <Ananas> My firefox, google chrome cannot connect to the internet although I'm talking from xchat now  and transmission torrent program is working too. Can anyone help me pls?
[03:17] <HowardTheDuck> Jordan_U okay thanks...now i'm going to be formatting this drive as ntfs of course, so my windows partition can read it too.
[03:17] <hobbes> Someone said earlier that swap isn't used for hibernation, but a separate file
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: if you have multiple Linux OSes installed. It makes no sense to have multiple swap partitions. All the Linuxes can simply use the same swap space so you only need one
[03:17] <HowardTheDuck> i'd use gparted to align it, then boot into windows to format it
[03:17] <hemisphere> jazz, does the xubuntu come with some sort of sound preference control panel ?
[03:17] <Jordan_U> Ananas: Can you ping google.com? If not can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[03:17] <edbian> hobbes, oh really?  Perhaps I'm wrong lately!
[03:18] <Ananas> Jordan_U no
[03:18] <Encry8> edbian: im getting command not found with 'word'>>test
[03:18] <hobbes> 1gb and you never use swap you say? My new system has 8gb on it
[03:18] <jazz> hemisphere: yes, and it selected Audigy 2 Value (Alsa mixer), same like ubuntu
[03:18] <Encry8> tried without the quotes
[03:18] <brunner> How do I boot into a console from the alternate install CD?
[03:18] <edbian> Encry8, what do you want to go into the file?
[03:18] <Encry8> just some text
[03:18] <jazz> hemisphere: the best part it working in ubuntu.
[03:18] <Encry8> nothing fancy
[03:18] <edbian> Encry8, echo 'word'>>file.txt  will put word int he file
[03:18] <Jordan_U> edbian: hobbes: Swap is used for hybernation. You can use a swap file in linux though instead of a swap partition.
[03:19] <edbian> Jordan_U, thanks
[03:19] <Encry8> oh ok
[03:19] <Jordan_U> edbian: You're welcome.
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: then you will only need swap if you want hibernate, 8Gb is plenty for Ubuntu. Most of my systems have 2Gb and I don't use swap as I only webbrowse and chat
[03:19] <rww> brunner: under the assumption that the alternate CD is very like the Debian install CD... try alt-f2
[03:19] <hemisphere> jazz, besides alsa, what other options are there ?
[03:20] <Ananas> Jordan_U Network tools got frozen
[03:20] <edbian> rww, alt+F2 is like the most ubiquitous thing ever!
[03:20] <hobbes> How much swap would I need for hybernation?
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: 8Gb, 1xRAM
[03:20] <hobbes> Maybe the person earlier meant windows 7
[03:20] <Encry8> ok the echo worked :)
[03:20] <Encry8> thx again
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: if you had less than 2Gb RAM you would use 2xRAM amount
[03:20] <edbian> hobbes, ActionParsnip I suggest that 1Gb of swap is enough
[03:20] <hobbes> ActionParsnip: I don't understand
[03:20] <jazz> hemisphere: Sigmatel STAC9750.51 (OSS mixer). Already try that too, not working.
[03:20] <edbian> Encry8, no problem
[03:21] <brunner> rww, thanks. that makes sense.
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: its simple, if you have 2Gb RAM or less, you will use double the amount of RAM you have for swap
[03:21] <Jordan_U> Ananas: Can you pastebin the output of "ping -c 10 google.com; ping -c 10 8.8.8.8"?
[03:21] <edbian> hobbes, ActionParsnip It's an older rule of thumb.  I think today it's outdated.
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: if you have more than 2Gb RAM then you use an equal amount for swap
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> edbian: hibernate needs the same amount as RAM to store the RAM contents in
[03:22] <hemisphere> jazz, what devices available ? do you have 'Internal Audio Analog Stereo' ?
[03:22] <edbian> ActionParsnip, but it's rare that anybody has 8Gb of ram filled.
[03:22] <hobbes> ActionParsnip: What does that have to do with hybernation? Ram isn't used at all in hybernation
[03:22] <Ananas> Jordan_U I have a ping success for 8.8.8.8
[03:22] <jazz> hemisphere: yes i have, but i disable it in bios.
[03:22] <edbian> hobbes, ActionParsnip, when you hibernate the contents of ram are dumped into the hibernation file so they're not lost
[03:23] <Jordan_U> Ananas: Then it's probably just a DNS problem. Try using 8.8.8.8 as your DNS server.
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> edbian: I'm just informing of the rule of thumb, thats all. A little education
[03:23] <hobbes> edbian: So how much swap drive space would I need for proper hybernation? Or does it not use swap?
[03:23] <edbian> ActionParsnip, :)
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: you will need to copy the RAM to swap when you hibernate
[03:23] <Ananas> Jordan_U I'll try now thanks
[03:23] <edbian> hobbes, it uses swap.  just make your swap 8Gb
[03:23] <hemisphere> jazz, could you try to somehow update ALSA ?
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> edbian: and in retort to 'older rule of thumb': https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq  was last updated 26th November 2010
[03:24] <hobbes> And this swap can be shared between linux distros?
[03:24] <edbian> hobbes, it's one of the things that it makes sense to share
[03:24] <trans> hello guys
[03:24] <jazz> hemisphere: yesterday already update, i follow the trobleshooting guide at ubuntu wiki, still sound a no go
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: yes as the filesystem is standardized, so if you install a few distros you don't need a seperate swap for each
[03:25] <trans> can I get any help about how to boot gnome3 image obtained from gnome3.org
[03:25] <edbian> hobbes, plus nothing critical is stored on it
[03:25] <jazz> hemisphere: my sound working it other xfce DE distro, only in xubuntu and mint (xfce), it never work.
[03:25] <hobbes> edbian: You don't think I can share games between distros? I mean if windows XP and win98 can share programs, then surely linux versions which have alot more in common can share a few programs
[03:25] <hemisphere> jazz, it sounds like it's distro based problems ?
[03:25] <edbian> hobbes, You can share them, it's just a big pain in the butt
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: i very much doubt it without a tonne of issues
[03:26] <jazz> hemisphere: i just can't figure it out whats the problem
[03:26] <hobbes> What are the pains? What are the issues?
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: unless the games in windows are very portable, they will not be able to be shared
[03:26] <hemisphere> jazz, same for mine
[03:26] <hobbes> And, interestinf spelling of "ton" there
[03:26] <hemisphere> jazz, mine couldn't detect the hardware at all
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: setting environment variables and path variables, basically it's not worth it
[03:27] <jazz> hemisphere: i install xubuntu yesterday cause i want a light DE, but sound problem.
[03:27] <edbian> hobbes, well for one, the program files are not all placed together, they're spread around the linux filesystem, you'd have to collect them up and put them all on this shared partition, then you'd have to make symlinks in the filesystem.  Then you'd have to make symlinks to them in the other distro
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: windows games instaled in wine will be installable as long as you have suitable access to the .wine folder holding the windows app
[03:27] <hobbes> I shared programs that were compatible with both win98 and XP just fine back when I had them duel booted
[03:27] <hilarie> Is there a way to autohide the top and bottom menu thingymabobbers?
[03:27] <edbian> hobbes, then you'd have to make sure you never install that program with the package manager from either system anymore cause it'll change everything you did
[03:27] <Rush> I'm thinking I should install WINE, and then install the windows drivers, comments?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: windows apps write files to SYSTEM32 and the registry, these would be missing in the OS you didn't instal under
[03:28] <edbian> hilarie, yes, right click them, select properties -> select auto-hide
[03:28] <Rush> ic
[03:28] <jazz> hemisphere: xubuntu ver. 9 working without any problem
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Rush: Wine does not allow you to use windows drivers.
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> hilarie: right click panel -> properties  you can set autohide there
[03:28] <hobbes> Not all programs need registry entries to run
[03:28] <hemisphere> jazz, did you check if the software for alsa, gstreamer and so on are there ?
[03:28] <Rush> hmm.
[03:28] <hilarie> @edbian @actionparsnip You are both pretty ladies
[03:28] <edbian> hobbes, there is no registry in wlinux
[03:28] <edbian> hilarie, ?
[03:28] <linux_is_my_hero> ActionParsnip: I've talked to you before, you seem smart. what does it mean when I try to do a fresh install to a newer version on my amd64 desktop and it gives me a bunch of black and green lines after it loads
[03:28] <hobbes> I am not talking about windows games in wine, I am talking about linux native games etc.
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: like I said, unless they are very portable, they won't. Yours obviously were
[03:28] <trans> can I get any help about how to boot gnome3 image obtained from gnome3.org
[03:28] <hemisphere> jazz, probably is missing stuff
[03:28] <jazz> hemisphere: yes already checked. from the troubleshooting guide
[03:29] <hilarie> @edbian  :P
[03:29] <edbian> hobbes, Did you read what I said about the package managers?
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: try: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[03:29] <edbian> hilarie, thanks :)
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: did you MD5 test the ISO you are installing with?
[03:29] <Enunio> hi all :)
[03:29] <jazz> hemisphere: i suspected that too. cause when i load my song, it playing, just no sound
[03:29] <linux_is_my_hero> ive used it on god knows how many computers with successful isntalls, but ill try that just in case
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> trans: did you read: http://gnome3.org/tryit.html
[03:30] <Loshki> hobbes: just how much disk do you have, and how many distros do you want to install?
[03:30] <linux_is_my_hero> action parsnip: ive used it on multiple successful installs except for my dell latitude d521 with an amd64 dualcore
[03:30] <hobbes> edbian: reading and understanding are very different
[03:30] <edbian> hobbes, haha, true that
[03:30] <Rush> I have drivers 2.4.x, might that work on the 2.6.x kernel?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: ok then try the nomodeset bootoption like the link I gave says
[03:30] <hobbes> My HDD will be 2TB, and maybe 2 at a time, which may be switched here in that for new ones
[03:31] <trans> ActionParsnip: yep, that image writer needs .img files,its not working with .iso. i tried unibootin and virtual machine both failed
[03:31] <hobbes> With 2tb, space will not be a issue
[03:31] <edbian> hobbes, yeah, you're point is?
[03:32] <Loshki> hobbes: a ubuntu distro takes about 7 to 10G. Any time you spend trying to economize on space for applications doesn't seem like time well spent...
[03:32] <edbian> hobbes, A linux install takes about 3-4 Gb (not counting user files) 80Gb would be plenty
[03:32] <hobbes> I want to be able to not have to reinstall everything each time I try a new distro is my point
[03:32] <edbian> Loshki, does it really?  I thought they only took like 2!
[03:32] <edbian> hobbes, just use the live CDs
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> trans: use unetbootin
[03:33] <hobbes> Like if I have the linux version of battle for wesnoth, with mods and saves expanding its size, I want those to remain
[03:33] <trans> ActionParsnip: unibootin failed,
[03:34] <Loshki> edbian: It mostly depends how much stuff you install. My current root is about 7G...
[03:34] <hobbes> edbian: I guess you missed earlier when I explained the various reasons that live CD is not sufficient for my purposes
[03:34] <rww> hobbes: assuming that you're installing programs from the distribution repositories (which you should), their files are not portable between different distributions. You'll just horribly confuse the package managers.
[03:34] <hobbes> edbian: Anyway, won't I still have the same issues with installed programs with live CD as I would with actual HDD installs?
[03:34] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i don't ever get to the "install screen" so i dont know how to use the nomo-whatever
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: when the installer starts to boot, press SPACE and you will see the old skool boot menu, you can set boot options, check the CD for defects and memory test there
[03:35] <linux_is_my_hero> has anyone ever gotten a funky screen on nvidea graphics while doing a ubuntu install from the livecd?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> trans: did you MD5 test the image you downloaded?
[03:35] <Rush> ActionParsnip can i install the drivers thru the terminal?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> Rush: depends what drivers
[03:35] <edbian> hobbes, Trust me, I'm speaking from experience.  When you wanna try out distros you use live CDs.  It's the easiest way and you still get a very good feel for that distro.  Then if you like it you can install it.  installing multiple OS's just to try them is not necessary now
[03:36] <trans> ActionParsnip: nope, how o test?
[03:36] <edbian> hobbes, It's not so slow it's unusable and you can still do almost anything you'd do on a real install
[03:36] <MindControl> Hi guys! Im Lookin for STATIC TV screensaver for linux ??? Have you seen anything like this?
[03:36] <hobbes> rww: "assuming that you're installing programs from the distribution repositories (which you should)," But that doesn't mean much to me. Why should I do that?
[03:36] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: trying now, seems to be working
[03:36] <Rush> ActionParsnip i have the 2.4.x linux drivers, that probably won't work for the 2.6.x driver correct?
[03:36] <trans> ActionParsnip: 2 images of opensuse failed
[03:36] <hagle> hagle
[03:37] <hobbes> edbian: It won't be as slow as to be unusuable, but it will be slower, right? So it won
[03:37] <edbian> hobbes, because the install procedure is fast and easy.  You don't have to worry about security of the code, or malicious code, you don't have to compile, and it's easy to remove later.  Also it's easier to update the entire system
[03:37] <hobbes> it won't tell me if X distro is faster then Y distro
[03:37] <trans> ActionParsnip: both showed the same error while booting up
[03:37] <edbian> hobbes, It will take longer to load some things.  It will be just as responsive when the program is loaded / mouse movements /etc /etc
[03:37] <hobbes> And I can't install programs onto a live CD
[03:38] <edbian> hobbes, They won't be faster than each other. not noticable to the naked eye anyway
[03:38] <edbian> hobbes, you can install programs
[03:38] <edbian> hobbes, They just don't stay after a reboot
[03:38] <hobbes> That matters
[03:38] <edbian> hobbes, alright then.  Start installing my friend!
[03:38] <hobbes> In order to properly test a distro, I will need to use it long term I am sure
[03:38] <edbian> hobbes, if that floats you're boat.  (for the record I think you're crazy)
[03:39] <hobbes> edbian: No reason to get defensive, Just explaining what I am trying to do and why
[03:39] <edbian> hobbes, :)
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: sure, acid testing is fine
[03:39] <bazhang> hobbes, what version do you have installed
[03:39] <myk_robinson> Evening, all. Looking for information on how to enable multitouch on my Sony Vaio VPCEB24FX
[03:39] <bazhang> !manual | hobbes please have a read
[03:39] <hobbes> Another reason I mentioned earlier was regular use of my DVD drive will wear it out, and will use extra electricity
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Rush: true, different kernel, you may need to cmopile
[03:40] <hobbes> bazhang: None right now
[03:40]  * edbian wonders if using the CD drive spends more energy than using the hdd
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | trans
[03:40] <bazhang> hobbes, then have a look at the manual
[03:40] <leapy0yo> what is a good program for ubuntu to download newsgroup binaries?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> trans: without testing the images, how did you know they were complete and consistent???
[03:41] <Rush> ActionParsnip Is that something I could get help doing as I don't know how to do that.... any other fesible solutions
[03:41] <Loshki> hobbes: there's no reason you shouldn't keep multiple partitions with different distros on each, if you want. And you can have them share swap and home. If you do that, and you can install the games you're interested in into home, then you *may* be able to 'share' them across distros, but there's no guarantee...
[03:41] <hobbes> CD drives use a lazer, and its not either or, if I am installing a program, or running one of my programs, it will be off of my HDD
[03:41] <kgarbutt> Hi everyone
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> Rush: see the link ubottu gave
[03:41] <trans> ActionParsnip: I have never experienced any trouble like this
[03:41] <leapy0yo> what is a newsgroup program that downloads nzb files and automatically decomrpresses the files of binary?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> trans: must've got lucky
[03:42] <edbian> hobbes, the live CD would not touch the hdd, but that's beside the point.  sharing /home is another common scenario but that isn't friendly from e.g. fedora to ubuntu
[03:42] <hobbes> Loshki:Ok, any recommendations for best easy way to accomplish this?
[03:42] <trans> ActionParsnip: now i'll check n get back to u in a moment
[03:42] <edbian> cause the permissions change
[03:42] <jozenir> bom dia
[03:42] <hobbes> edbian How do you install anything onto a write only CD?
[03:43] <edbian> hobbes, It installs it into ram (it's tricky :) )
[03:43] <jozenir> alguém do brasil?
[03:43] <edbian> It appears to be going to the cd drive.  Obviously it is not burning the CD on the fly
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: use custom partitioning at each step, create a new partition for the OS and set it as the / partition, you can then add more and more partitions with OSes (remember to tell the OS to use the centralized swap partition to save space), you can then build up and up. You could even have a centralized /home partition so all the ditros use the same user data :)
[03:43] <hobbes> You mean like ramdisk? Well, I wouldn't want to have to keep on reinstalling my stuff every time I boot my computer, that would be absurd.
[03:44] <edbian> hobbes, It would get annoying.  People typically boot the live CD mess with the distro for maybe an hour, then either install it or move on
[03:44] <jozenir> Alguém pode me dizer como faço para permitir a execução de programas instalados no wine por outros usuários
[03:44] <edbian> hobbes, do what ActionParsnip said to share partitions
[03:44] <hobbes> Thankyou
[03:45] <rww> ubottu: br | jozenir
[03:45] <hobbes> I don't understand it all, but I am saving the conversation into a text file, I can review more when I get into it directly. Then ask more when I understand more
[03:45] <jozenir> obrigado
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: if you use what we've said and just play and try, you will find it quite simple. You will need to use custom partitioning each time, if you use the default option you will use 100% of the disk space
[03:46] <edbian> hobbes, good plan.  The best way to learn is to get linux and mess with it
[03:46] <edbian> hobbes, irc is better for asking specific questions, not general concepts
[03:46] <hobbes> Right
[03:47] <hobbes> Since on the forum, people tend to drift off topic, and old posts tend to not be read, where as in chat its easier to correct misunderstandings and keep the conversation OT
[03:47] <edbian> hobbes, yeah, reading is good too :) like websites
[03:47] <zy3g0> Hi...:D
[03:48] <zy3g0> whoa re you Doing
[03:48] <zy3g0> ??
[03:48] <hobbes> I do that, but I want a life other then headaches and hours of random surfing hoping to find what I am looking for
[03:48] <NoUseForAName> Yo guys
[03:48] <NoUseForAName> This channel appears to be on twitter
[03:48] <NoUseForAName> http://twitter.com/#!/shitthatn00bsay
[03:48] <hobbes> So if I can simply ask those who know, and safe a ton of time and headache, that is good I think
[03:49] <bazhang> !ot | NoUseForAName
[03:49] <trans> ActionParsnip: md5sum is correct
[03:49] <edbian> hobbes, if people ask questions that are documented online it may save their time but it wastes ours
[03:49] <bazhang> hobbes, we're getting offtopic here. please take the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:50] <hobbes> Well I am done anyway, thanks again for all your help
[03:50] <edbian> sure
[03:50] <bazhang> trans, burn slowly and do the disk integrity check
[03:51] <trans> bazhang: I'm trying to boot up with usb
[03:51] <hobbes> What is a good way of saving all of chat for latter?
[03:51] <bazhang> !1984 > hobbes
[03:52] <edbian> !1984 > edbian
[03:52] <aadem> what is fi used for in bash scripts, am i correct to assume its an appropriate end to an if statement?  also...the abs-guide from apt-get is great! however im still on the lookout for somewhat of a library of bash scripts and with the unix following ive seen i would think there would be a standard place users go to when theyre looking for a bash script online...can someone point me in that direction
[03:52] <sacarlson> Rush: it seems your pci device has been supported at least back in 2008 in ubuntu and I also saw 10.04 support so you should already have drivers for it http://www.pricespider.com/compare-reviews-ethernet-adapters/trendnet/32-bit-pci-10-100mbps-n-way-fast-ethernet-card-te100-pciwn--181824.html
[03:52] <bazhang> aadem, try #bash
[03:52] <aadem> thank you baz :)
[03:52] <rww> aadem: yes
[03:52] <ynk> hey ladies and gents. i'm looking for a shell scripting channel. could anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:53] <rww> (re: fi)
[03:53] <pure_hate> aadem, yes fi closes a if statement in bash
[03:53] <rww> ynk: #bash
[03:53] <hobbes> How can I save all of chat for latter? Highlighting all of this is time consuming and difficult
[03:53] <aadem> awesome thats what i gathered from context just needed to make sure hehe, and sorry for the mischan im new here
[03:53] <zy3g0> how are you doing...??:D
[03:53] <zy3g0> lol...?'..:D
[03:53] <ynk> rww: thank you!
[03:53] <skutr3> hey i know this is ubuntu channel but i need help installing the new debian and i cant get into #debian?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> !ot | zy3g0
[03:54] <rww> skutr3: touch
[03:54] <zy3g0> :s...
[03:54] <rww> skutr3: tough.
[03:54] <skutr3> rww: what?
[03:54] <zy3g0> thats crazy
[03:55] <rww> skutr3: As we told you last time you brought this up, go talk to a #debian op. Your ban problems have nothing to do with this channel, and #ubuntu doesn't support Debian installations.
[03:55] <bazhang> hobbes, I just sent you a link
[03:55] <bazhang> !1984 | hobbes here it is again
[03:56] <zy3g0> lol....
[03:56] <hobbes> I just want this chat log, I don't want a ton of chat log to have to sift through
[03:56] <bazhang> hobbes, then check the link
[03:56] <Jordan_U> zy3g0: This is your last warning.
[03:56] <bazhang> zy3g0, take it elsewhere
[03:56] <zy3g0> ok
[03:56] <zy3g0> :s
[03:57] <rww> hobbes: it's pretty much a choice between highlighting things in your webchat window and highlighting things in irclogs.ubuntu.com. qwebirc has no logging functionality.
[03:57] <usuario> Hi
[03:57] <ApacheOmega> hello
[03:57] <anonboots> hello
[03:57] <hobbes> rww: But how do I highlight all?
[03:57] <rww> hobbes: ctrl-a, generally
[03:58] <ApacheOmega> I made a mistake and put my XAMPP icon in the trash and now I'm having to reinstall the whole thing
[03:58] <hobbes> Hmm, that wants to highlight too much
[03:58] <bazhang> ApacheOmega, xampp is not supported use lamp
[03:58] <bazhang> !lamp | ApacheOmega
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: then select with the mouse
[03:58] <usuario> someone speaks Spanish?
[03:58] <bazhang> !xampp > ApacheOmega
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> !es | usuario
[03:58] <bazhang> usuario, in #ubuntu-es
[03:59] <usuario> thanks
[03:59] <usuario> bye
[04:00] <hobbes> ActionParsnip: I can't really do it, the best I can do is start at a point, then move the curser slightly below the chat at just the right point, then wait for the scroll to slowly go down till it reaches the bottom
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: do that then
[04:01] <hobbes> It works, sort of, Unless I move the cursor slightly off, then it gets messed up and I have to restart, but its also really time consuming
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: or you could just make notes while the chat is still fresh using pen and paper
[04:01] <bazhang> hobbes, or use a real irc client
[04:01] <Donjr> Been fighting to get this broadcom 4311 wirless card to work in my laptop.  I now have finally got it to be able to scan and see my router, but still no net connection.  I"m not sure what else to try now.
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> hobbes: you can select the text from the chat logs, much easier
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: s/he is
[04:01] <ApacheOmega> bazhang: so i have to erase everything i just did
[04:02] <bazhang> ApacheOmega, yep
[04:02] <ApacheOmega> AHHHH!!!!
[04:05] <rcmaehl> http://cid-5f5e3cbbea45ae52.office.live.com/self.aspx/Public/Espeak.sh I made a espeak file!
[04:05] <jccorrea> hello
[04:05] <jccorrea> i'm trying to execute a BR app  and got
[04:05] <bazhang> rcmaehl, connected to ubuntu support somehow?
[04:05] <rcmaehl> bazhang: how do I change the voice though?
[04:05] <jccorrea> 'localhost' port 1527
[04:06] <jccorrea> connection refused
[04:06] <bazhang> rcmaehl, using what software
[04:06] <rcmaehl> espeak
[04:06] <jccorrea> is possible that a port is blocked in  my Ubuntu 10.10?but i Donjr t have a firewall
[04:06] <jccorrea> Governement - NFe
[04:07] <bazhang> http://espeak.sourceforge.net/languages.html rcmaehl
[04:07] <jccorrea> 'localhost' port 1527 connection refused.how to check it?
[04:07] <Donjr>  Okay, so I create a new connection, I scan and find my home network and click okay, now how do I tell it to connect?  It still says "Last Used: Never"
[04:07] <rcmaehl> thx
[04:08] <jccorrea> ubuntu 10.10..i look in network tools to find a open port
[04:08] <bazhang> Donjr, wired? wireless? what encryption if any? associated with the ap?
[04:08] <Donjr> wireless, no encryption, no ap, should be straight from the router.
[04:09] <Donjr> the wireless scan does bring up the available wireless networks, I select my home network, it shows properly that it is unprotected, I click okay
[04:09] <bazhang> Donjr, no ap? that means there is not a wifi spot to connect to
[04:09] <Donjr> and still nothing.
[04:09] <Donjr> oh
[04:09] <Donjr> then yes, there IS a wifi spot to connect to, my wireless router
[04:09] <bazhang> Donjr, what does ifconfig show it as ? wlan0 ?
[04:10] <Donjr> I'm not sure which one it is under ifconfig, but under iwconfig it's eth1
[04:11] <sacarlson> jccorrea: try sudo netstat -pant  see if you have anything listen on that port 1527
[04:11] <bazhang> Donjr, whats the wireless chipset
[04:11] <Donjr> broadcom 4311 I'm using the STA drivers, they finally allowed me to see network ap's when I clicked the 'scan' button
[04:11] <bazhang> Donjr, sudo dhclient eth1    yields what
[04:12] <Athenon> i decided to go with vnc for simplicity....i enabled ubuntu to be controlled remotely, but it's not letting me in.  i can ssh into ubuntu, but vnc just says connection failed (were on the same lan)
[04:12] <jccorrea> sacarlson : nothing for port 1527 on localhost or 127.0.0.1
[04:12] <nixjr> is there anyway to do an "ls > filename" and to add a "<br/>" at the end of every newline?
[04:13] <jccorrea> sacarlson it's a java app (run o jre)
[04:13] <sacarlson> jccorrea: this is on your server?  ok then what application is it that you thought was listening on that port?
[04:13] <Donjr> shows listening on LPF/eth1macaddresss, sending on , same line as listening, sending on Socket/fallback, dhcpdiscover on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 and interval 6 twice, 12 twice, 18 and then 7, no dhcpoffers recieved
[04:13] <rww> nixjr: ls | sed 's#$#<br/>#' > filename
[04:13] <jccorrea> sacarlson : is in my desktop.
[04:13] <bazhang> Donjr, then associate with the ap and try again
[04:14] <bazhang> !wifi | Donjr please have a read
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | Athenon
[04:14] <nixjr> rww, fantastic, thanks
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Athenon: if you have ssh, you can launch X based apps using x forwarding
[04:14] <sacarlson> jccorrea: well that tells me very little,  you should see if that app is seen in ps -A
[04:15] <jccorrea> sacarlson,when i run this app i got this error..i take a look and only has package for rpm based..not for deb i think..but i'm  trying to execute
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Athenon: also, many apps have web interfaces (like torrent clients) which are more graceful
[04:15] <Athenon> ActionParsnip:  i figured it out.  it's a bug in ubuntu where when you first enable....blah, heres the link: http://blackmarketserver.com/blog/2010/10/17/get-remote-desktop-working-in-ubuntu-10-10
[04:16] <Donjr> bazhang how do I associate with the ap?
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> Athenon: i use pure ssh, the link may help others though. I find vnc to be vulgar
[04:16] <sacarlson> jccorrea: rpm are not executable,  but you might be  able to use alien to convert it to deb
[04:16] <Donjr> I'm looking over the howto now and the troubleshooting steps
[04:16] <Athenon> ActionParsnip:  yeah.  freenx looks like it would be a better solution, but im really not sure what it is or how it works
[04:16] <jccorrea> sacarlson  yes,i did it
[04:16] <bazhang> Donjr, did you check the specific steps in the link I gave you on exactly how to do that?
[04:16] <Donjr> I"m looking for the steps on how to do that right now
[04:17] <sacarlson> jccorrea: well with more info about the application and what it should do I'm not sure what I can tell you
[04:17] <jccorrea> Caused by: org.apache.derby.client.am.DisconnectException: java.net.ConnectException : Erro ao conectar no servidor 'localhost' porta '1527'. Recebida a mensagem: 'Conexão recusada'.
[04:17] <bazhang> jccorrea, whats the app
[04:18] <jccorrea> bazhang http://www.emissornfe.fazenda.sp.gov.br/
[04:18] <bazhang> jccorrea, the name of the software please
[04:18] <sacarlson> jccorrea: wow now i need to translate also,  so maybe it has some dependency of something you don't have like appache?
[04:18] <Donjr> either ap is named soemthing else in this or I still have not found exactly how to associate in this how to.
[04:19] <bazhang> Donjr, or its hidden
[04:19] <Donjr> what is hidden? I"m looking through this wireless howto to find the command to associate with my ap
[04:19] <jccorrea> bazhang "Emissor de NF-e" ...it's a software to send and control tributes
[04:20] <hoss> So, I havent used Ubuntu in like 3 years and alot has changed.  Specifically, what is this dock bar application on the far left side?  Im running netbook 10.10
[04:20] <hoss> Also, I want the eye candy back and it says Mutter is running.  what is that?
[04:20] <jccorrea> sacarlson the software run on java jre 1.6 or later.it's execute a jnlp
[04:21] <sacarlson> jccorrea: what is the list of dependancy?
[04:21] <bazhang> hoss, what does lsb_release -a say
[04:21] <jccorrea> sacarlson i don't know java very much    <description>Emissor de Nota Fiscal Eletronica (NF-e)</description>
[04:21] <jccorrea>     <description kind="short">Emissor NF-e</description>
[04:21] <jccorrea>     <icon href="http://www.emissornfe.fazenda.sp.gov.br/logo_nfe.jpg" kind="default"/>
[04:21] <jccorrea>     <icon href="http://www.emissornfe.fazenda.sp.gov.br/logo_nfe.jpg" kind="splash"/>
[04:21] <jccorrea>     <shortcut online="true">
[04:21] <FloodBot1> jccorrea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <rww> bazhang: that's 10.10.
[04:21] <rww> hoss: Mutter is the Metacity window manager (GNOME's default) + clutter, which is a toolkit for displaying things like that dock bar. The Ubuntu Netbook user interface is called Unity.
[04:22] <hoss> bazhang, Ubuntu 10.10 maverick.
[04:22] <Jordan_U> hoss: The netbook interface is signifigantly different from the normal "Desktop" interface, though in 11.04 the "unity" interface will be used for Desktop by default as well.
[04:22] <jccorrea> sacarson http://pastebin.com/8wvsz3Tq
[04:22] <Jordan_U> hoss: Currenly unity doesn't work with compiz, though that also will change in 11.04 (where it will *only* work with compiz :)
[04:22] <Doonz> how can i check my hdd temps through smart through the cli
[04:23] <hoss> Is there anyway to get the default bars back and get rid of the dock bar?
[04:23] <kayzarg> hola
[04:23] <hoss> Jordan_U, when is 11.04 expected to release?
[04:23] <bazhang> hoss, April
[04:24] <Jordan_U> hoss: 11 is the year, 04 is the month, so 11.04 will be released April 2011.
[04:24] <hoss> So, I am stuck with this bloated unintunitive dockbar style?
[04:25] <Jordan_U> hoss: No, you can use the standard Desktop interface.
[04:25] <hoss> via login manager?
[04:25] <Donjr> bazhang I'm sorry but nothing here tells me how to add or associate an ap with my network that I can find.  It tells me to check with my ap and see if it see's my card or not, but not how to associate
[04:26] <hoss> Jordan_U, still cant use compiz with standard desktop interface though right?
[04:26] <psyklown> hey. i would like to know if i installed to desktop environments beside one another. if that would significantly slow my system starting and/or while its running?
[04:26] <daniel5> hi?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> hoss: Compiz is the default with the standard desktop interface.
[04:26] <daniel5> i need some help on configuring my sage notebook
[04:26] <hoss> Jordan_U, excellent.
[04:27] <psyklown> like if i had gnome and installed kde with it..
[04:27] <hoss> Jordan_U, you know if conky has recieved a face lift, or is itt pretty much still the same?
[04:28] <daniel5> i need some help on configuring my sage notebook: every time i start the nb logs in as 'admin'
[04:28] <violetbby> heyyy
[04:28] <daniel5> and i'm tired of logging of to my 'user' acount
[04:28] <Jordan_U> hoss: Don't know.
[04:28] <hoss> Jordan_U, kk.
[04:29] <nov503> what is "kk" stand for?
[04:29] <violetbby> ok
[04:29] <sacarlson> jccorrea: well if you would tell me the name of the application it would be easy to help but without knowing I have to guess maybe it has dependancy on http://db.apache.org/derby/  derby?
[04:29] <EmuAlert> nov503, pretty sure it's just "ok"
[04:29] <violetbby> does anyone know how to install flash 10
[04:29] <hoss> Jordan_U, finally is there a good place for documentation so I can catch up with all the changes and new applications?
[04:30] <nov503> violetbby & EmuAlert, thanks
[04:30] <bazhang> iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname   Donjr from the wiki
[04:30] <violetbby> welcom
[04:30] <Jordan_U> !manual | hoss
[04:30] <jccorrea> sacarson i solve now using this post
[04:31] <hoss> Jordan_U: Thanks boss.
[04:31] <Jordan_U> hoss: You're welcome.
[04:31] <jccorrea> sacarlson I solve the problem using this post http://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php?topic=55400.0
[04:31] <daniel5> anyone can help me? i need some help on configuring my sage notebook
[04:31] <jccorrea> the problem was when the application try to create a database for it
[04:32] <EmuAlert> violetbby, if you get Medibuntu ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu ), you can install flash just from the Ubuntu Software Center under "Canonical Partners"
[04:32] <jccorrea> sacarlson i create a directory on "/" called /database and give 777 permission using chmod
[04:33] <jccorrea> scarlson thanls a lot
[04:33] <nov503> quit
[04:34] <EmuAlert> How do you get root permission from the terminal?
[04:34] <psyklown> i also have another question. i download the dev release of gnome 3, does that mean it would install on my system and when the new release comes out it updates to that?
[04:34] <bazhang> EmuAlert, use sudo
[04:34] <EmuAlert> bazhang, *feels stupid* thanks
[04:35] <Donjr> Alright, can't figure out how to get this to associate, I'm lost.
[04:35] <bazhang> Donjr, I just gave you the command
[04:36] <Donjr> Ahh, I missed that, sorry, I have ran that command more than once with no response unfortunately
[04:37] <bazhang> Donjr, what was the exact command you gave and the exact error message
[04:37] <Donjr> I don't get an error, it just does nothing
[04:37] <bazhang> Donjr, and the command you gave?
[04:37] <Donjr> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "HomeNow"
[04:38] <Donjr> tried with " " around HomeNow and without
[04:38] <bazhang> Donjr, please pastebin the out put of ifconfig, lspci
[04:38] <Athenon> ActionParsnip:  im using freenx.  so far i really like it :)
[04:41] <kayzarg> hola necesito instalar una tarjeta grafica en mi sistema
[04:41] <kayzarg> y me sale un error
[04:41] <kayzarg> alguien que me ayude
[04:41] <rww> ubottu: es | kayzarg
[04:41] <Donjr> bazhang  http://pastebin.com/C23TJSMH   I threw in the iwconfig at the end as well
[04:42] <kayzarg> ahi no hay nadie
[04:42] <zookalicious> Does anyone happen to know how to change the color of the menu bars in all applications? A theme I installed has a slightly of color on the menu bars and I'd like to tweak it, but changing the gtkrc doesnt seem to work
[04:43] <rww> kayzarg: then be patient. This channel is English-language only.
[04:43] <kayzarg> ok
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> Athenon: coolio
[04:45] <kofte> hi
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> hi kofte
[04:46] <kofte> I've come across some information on the Ubuntu forum without much explanation, and I just wanted to clarify
[04:46] <kofte> hi ActionParsnip
[04:46] <kofte> Is it true that unsigned repositories won't work on AMD64?
[04:47] <rww> kofte: can you link to the forums post that says that, please?
[04:47] <bazhang> bcmwl-kernel-source  Donjr was that installed
[04:47] <kofte> rww: sure, just a sec
[04:47] <Donjr> yes, that was part of what I did to enable or get the STA drivers
[04:47] <Donjr> the network manager now shows my home wireless ap, but it doesn't appear to pass that along to the device it's self.
[04:47] <kofte> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[04:48] <Guest34342> how did i change awn-notifcation-deamon setting
[04:48] <kofte> search for "if you're on amd64" for the relevant part (it's a long page)
[04:48] <bazhang> Donjr, and you followed all of the steps in the broadcom wiki, extracting firmware or using from additional drivers
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> kofte: you don't need the key to sign repos in any arch and they will work, the OS wil just moan a little, they are easy to import
[04:49] <Donjr> I followed this to get to where I am now.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:49] <ApacheOmega> I'm in the process of installing LAMPP and I'm right at the end and I keep getting this message____ jasonsthomas@ubuntu:~$ mysql -u root
[04:49] <ApacheOmega> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:49] <ApacheOmega>  --------- what am I doing wrong?
[04:49] <hilarie> Alrighty... According to http://powdertoy.co.uk/Wiki.html?do=show&id=building_in_linux I need to install a list of dependancies... do I just do sudo apt-get <Dependancy Name>?
[04:49] <bazhang> Donjr, because it showing up as eth1 leads me believe the device is not recognized properly
[04:49] <Guest34342> i want to change my awn notification setting to deaflut any help
[04:49] <bazhang> hilarie, for what software
[04:49] <rww> kofte: I read that as the Skype repository being 32-bit only. AMD64 systems can install unauthenticated packages just fine.
[04:49] <Donjr> it was showing up at wlan0 before I followed the steps on that sight
[04:50] <Donjr> and dissabled my b44 hardwire with modprobe -r b43 b44 ssb wl
[04:50] <kofte> ActionParsnip: I'm asking because for some reason Skype will install fine on one of my PCs but not the other
[04:50] <Donjr> then modprobe wl
[04:50] <bazhang> Donjr, then try the modprobe steps again
[04:50] <Donjr> okay
[04:50] <hilarie> @Bazhang I am trying to get the powder toy
[04:50] <kofte> using the same steps
[04:50] <bazhang> hilarie, what is the powder toy, what does it do
[04:51] <kofte> and I thought this might be a clue to why
[04:51] <hilarie> It's an awesomesauce little game, I already have it, I just need to update it and it wont, so I am trying to compile it
[04:51] <bazhang> hilarie, from the repos? or some 3rd party / PPA
[04:52] <rww> kofte: and indeed, it appears that the repository is 32-bit only. Skype's website is being silly and not showing me directory listing, but the amd64 repository files appear to not be there.
[04:52] <ApacheOmega> OK I'll ask again -- what does this mean and what could I possibly be doing wrong cause I'm entering it in word per word-------------------  jasonsthomas@ubuntu:~$ mysql -u root
[04:52] <ApacheOmega> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:52] <hilarie> @bazhang I found an un-updated copy from a 3rd party repo,
[04:52] <kofte> rww: what would be the consequences of that?
[04:53] <Donjr> When I try to run the modprobe steps again it is telling me that ssb is in use
[04:53] <wiseguyxp> Apache, do you have a password for your root user?
[04:53] <bazhang> hilarie, its a dungeon crawling game?
[04:53] <rww> kofte: that you can't use the repository method if you're on a 64-bit system, as the help.ubuntu.com page says.
[04:53] <ApacheOmega> wiseguy:  yes OHHHHHHH!!!! thats what it is thankyou
[04:53] <Guest34342> I want help regarding my awn notification deamon how i change there palces
[04:54] <hilarie> @Bazhang it's a physic's game
[04:54] <wiseguyxp> remember the -p at the end
[04:55] <Donjr> bazhang the sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl  line gives me a Module ssb is in use. error
[04:55] <Rolotony> Hello
[04:55] <Rolotony> Does anyone know a good chan for Wireless networking?
[04:55] <ApacheOmega> Wiseguy: Ok mabey that wasnt it caust I put my password in for root and its saying the same thig
[04:55] <bazhang> hilarie, looks like a 3rdparty getdeb game
[04:55] <bazhang> Rolotony, ##networking ?
[04:55] <hilarie> @bazhang There is no up to date .deb available
[04:56] <Donjr> and the darn thing changed to eth0 now instead of eth1
[04:56] <Rolotony> bazhang: thanks
[04:56] <ApacheOmega> i just did all this this morning but I cant remember what I di here
[04:56] <Laibsch> I tried to upgrade my vserver from hardy to lucid and ran into bug 701961.  Anybody have an idea how to get out of the catch22? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62115344/update.log
[04:56] <atul> Hi I have Ubuntu 10.10, wireless Intern ate very very slow.. can any one suggest remedies..please
[04:56] <sacarlson> ApacheOmega: I think your mysqld is not running,  try ps -A see if the process is active
[04:56] <bazhang> hilarie, well neither are supported here, perhaps contact them
[04:56] <kofte> rww: I'm still confused about what's going on with my PCs.  Both of them have 64 bit processors.  However, on one of them, I accidentally installed Ubuntu 32-bit.  The one that has a problem with the Skype repository is the 32-bit OS one.
[04:56] <Donjr> probably going to have to reinstall and start over...
[04:56] <rww> kofte: How did you install Skype on the 64-bit one?
[04:56] <ApacheOmega> scarlson: how do I do that
[04:57] <wiseguyxp> Apache: In terminal, type "ps -ef | grep mysql"
[04:57] <sacarlson> ApacheOmega: type in a terminal ps -A | grep my
[04:57] <hilarie> @bazhang Where could I get help compiling something?
[04:57] <rww> kofte: also, why are you asking about unsigned repositories and 64-bit systems if you're having issues with a 32-bit system :|
[04:57] <kofte> I added the repository in /etc/apt and then did "aptitude install skype"
[04:57] <ApacheOmega> Wiseguy: Thanks will do
[04:57] <bazhang> Donjr, that seems extreme, not sure how to fix as you seem to have backtracked / ie used one method then another. perhaps reverse steps and start fresh
[04:57] <bazhang> !compile | hilarie
[04:57] <bazhang> hilarie, install build-essential
[04:58] <kofte> rww: because of what I read on the forum, it seems to be part of the puzzle.  I'm asking to figure out the rest of it!
[04:58] <hilarie> @bazhang I have that
[04:58] <Donjr> just apt-get remove everything I've done and try again?
[04:59] <edbian> hilarie, Ask a more specific question.  What isn't working?
[04:59] <bazhang> Donjr, I'd try anything before reinstalling, that truly is a last resort
[04:59] <rww> kofte: There is no amd64 component to that skype repository, so I am skeptical that you installed skype on an amd64 system using it. You may want to run "uname -a" and check that the machine you think is 64-bit says x86_64 on it.
[05:00] <hilarie> @edbian I will try the link Bazang provided
[05:00] <edbian> hilarie, :)
[05:00] <bazhang> edbian, compiling the powder toy
[05:00] <ApacheOmega> WiseGuy: I typed that in and it just went to the next line
[05:01] <edbian> bazhang, neat
[05:01] <wiseguyxp> Apache: Try 'sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start'
[05:01] <kofte> rww: the machine with working Skype says: Linux 2.6.31-22-generic #70-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 1 23:51:13 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:01] <Athenon> im using freenx and my keyboard layout isnt right even though i set it to be usa.  for example, the ] is produced by hitting the key that normally produces |
[05:01] <rww> kofte: that's 32-bit.
[05:01] <wiseguyxp> Apache: It might just be mysql instead of mysqld, but I can't remember
[05:01] <edbian> bazhang, hilarie YOu don't  have to compile.  They're pre-compiled.  Just download extract and run
[05:01] <bazhang> kofte, not 64bit
[05:02] <edbian> hilarie, it took me about 1 minute
[05:02] <kofte> rww: is that the machine or the OS?
[05:03] <rww> kofte: the OS. Whether your CPU is 32-bit or 64-bit is irrelevant to this.
[05:03] <hilarie> @edbian :) could you tell me what you put into terminal :)
[05:03] <edbian> hilarie, You downloaded the files right?
[05:03] <hilarie> Aye, and then I put them in my home folder
[05:03] <edbian> hilarie, did you extract it?
[05:03] <hilarie> Aye
[05:03] <edbian> hilarie, It should come as one zip file, then you extract it into 3 files.
[05:04] <edbian> hilarie, just double click those files
[05:04] <ApacheOmega> WiseGuy: I must be entering something wrong cause it doesnt recognize the command
[05:04] <hilarie> @edbian heheheheheh
[05:04] <sacarlson> ApacheOmega: try sudo restart mysql  or sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[05:04] <edbian> hilarie, how do you feel?
[05:04] <hilarie> @edbian I am especially retarded today
[05:04] <ApacheOmega> Ijust wish I didnt exedently erease it today
[05:04] <edbian> hilarie, Feel good, you're learning!  haha
[05:04] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: are you sure you have the mysql server installed?
[05:04] <ApacheOmega> Ssacarlson: Will do
[05:04] <edbian> hilarie, I knew you could do that cause they looked like gears which means they're binaries (executable code)
[05:05] <kofte> rww: the other machine says: Linux 2.6.31-22-generic #70-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 1 23:48:17 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:05] <rww> kofte: that's 64-bit
[05:06] <xormor> how do I install dosbox on my Ubuntu 1.04 LTS system?
[05:06] <kofte> rww: OK, then I got them mixed up.  I accidentally installed a 32-bit OS on the machine with working Skype.  So I guess that solves the riddle.
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> xormor: sudo apt-get install dosbox
[05:06]  * rww nods
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image 2.6.31
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[05:07] <ApacheOmega> sacarlson: ok it restarted - do I try to enter - mysql -u root again? and should I put my password where it says root?
[05:07] <xormor> ActionParsnip: it doesn't have it.
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> karmic
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> !info dosbox lucid
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> xormor: enable the universe repo in software centre
[05:08] <xormor> ActionParsnip: Synaptic?
[05:08] <sacarlson> ApacheOmega: give it a try,  seem I recall at install you are asked to enter a user name and password for admin
[05:09] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: The command should be 'mysql -u root -p'.  It will ask for your password on the next line.
[05:09] <Vustom> Question - I'm thinking about getting rid of Windows Vista and moving to Ubuntu, I've always wanted to do it but I never have because I wouldn't be able to play half of my games, so my question is
[05:09] <ApacheOmega> sacarlson you know what I dont think i did the admin pasrt this time around
[05:09] <Vustom> whats the best way to use Windows XP and Ubuntu together, on the same hard drive?
[05:10] <ApacheOmega> Wiseguyxp:  alright
[05:10] <kofte> Another question: It says on the forum that since Lucid Lynx, Skype has been added to the official partner repositories.  Would it work if I added that to Xubuntu 10.04 (on a third PC)?
[05:10] <bobmarley> Vustom: dual boot or virtual machine
[05:10] <AbhijiT> Vustom, insall xp then insall ubuntu
[05:10] <edbian> Vustom, by dual booting.  Just install Ubuntu and choose 'install side by side' it does it all for you.  Then when you turn your computer on there is a menu to choose which OS to boot
[05:10] <Vustom> Are.. you serious edbian?
[05:10] <Vustom> That's so coool!!
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> xormor: whatever, just get that repo enabled and it will come down
[05:11] <bobmarley> any good tut on backuping ?
[05:11] <edbian> Vustom, 100%  It is basically one of the biggest goals of the Ubuntu desktop
[05:11] <Vustom> :O
[05:11] <Vustom> Does it work with Vista too?
[05:11] <xormor> ActionParsnip: ok. I edited sources.list with the text editor but it didn't come down.
[05:11] <bobmarley> Vustom: yes
[05:11] <edbian> Vustom, I did it and I bet 90% of the people here have dual-booted with XP at some point
[05:11] <Vustom> o
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: install XP to a portion of the drive instead of the default 100%, leave unpartitioned space. Then install ubuntu to the free space
[05:11] <edbian> Vustom, it works with vista, xp, and windows 7 (and probably 98 / 95 and 3.1)
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> xormor: did you run: sudo apt-get update after editting the file
[05:12] <Vustom> ActionParsnip: I don't know how to do that.. im new to this OS changing stuff
[05:12] <kofte> Vustom: I have Ubuntu, XP and Win7 on the same machine
[05:12] <edbian> Vustom, that's another way to do it.  assuming you don't already have xp installed
[05:12] <xormor> ActionParsnip: no
[05:12] <bobmarley> any good tut on backuping ?
[05:12] <Vustom> Also I have another question
[05:12] <edbian> Vustom, what
[05:12] <Vustom> My computer came pre-installed so I don't have any of the sound drivers etc
[05:12] <Vustom> How do I go about doing that on Ubuntu
[05:12] <Vustom> ?
[05:13] <Vustom> Or won't i need too
[05:13] <edbian> Vustom, Are you looking for drivers for windows or Ubuntu?
[05:13] <Vustom> Ubuntu
[05:13] <Vustom> so i can listen to stuff
[05:13] <Vustom> etc..
[05:13] <Jordan_U> Vustom: If you're lucky you won't need to. It depends on how well your particular hardware is supported.
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> xormor: that'd be why, you updated the file but didn't tell the OS to scan the repos you enabled
[05:13] <edbian> Vustom, there is a very solid chance that Ubuntu will simply work out of the box.  the 'drivers' for many generic devices are built into the kernel
[05:13] <Vustom> oo
[05:13] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: I think i skipped a step cause it's not taking my password
[05:13] <edbian> Vustom, It really is a much better system
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: you can get XP drivers from manufacturers site
[05:14] <Vustom> Is Ubuntu the best Linux out there?
[05:14] <edbian> !best
[05:14] <bobmarley> Vustom: yes
[05:14] <AbhijiT> Vustom, no
[05:14] <edbian> Vustom, there is no best
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: no, as the best linux distro doesn't exist
[05:14] <Vustom> o
[05:14] <Vustom> ok
[05:14] <AbhijiT> Vustom, every distro has target audience. choose as per your requirment
[05:14] <Vustom> let me change that to
[05:14] <Vustom> leading linux software
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: how do you mean?
[05:14] <Vustom> wait thats the same
[05:14] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: Do you remember setting the root password when you installed the mysql server?
[05:14] <Vustom> nvm
[05:14] <Vustom> ha.
[05:14] <AbhijiT> Vustom, nope. and offtopic discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:14] <edbian> Vustom, no, that's probably arch (it's newest)
[05:15] <sacarlson> Vustom: by default ubuntu won't have some codec to play like mp3 and other video format for that you might want to install restricted extras https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: think of it as the same as "what is the BEST colour?"
[05:15] <xormor> ActionParsnip: I did sudo apt-get update but it complained about a duplicate entry, and still it doesn't find dosbox.
[05:15] <edbian> sacarlson, He doesn't even have it installed yet
[05:15] <kofte> Vustom: I had a lot of trouble setting up my sound card to work with Ubuntu.  The more common your hardware is, the easier it will probably be to find support.
[05:15] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: this morning I did but not this recent time
[05:15] <bobmarley> Vustom: install gstreamer
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> xormor: i'd check the duplicate out, it's in the repos dude, try enabling it in software centre
[05:15] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: Do you have anything in the database yet?
[05:15] <Vustom> So, once i reformat my Windows Vista and install Windows Vista, I can download Ubuntu and when installing Ubuntu I can select Side-by-side and on startup I can select to use Windows Vista or Ubuntu?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> kofte: do you use a creative audigy something?
[05:16] <kofte> ActionParsnip: what's that?
[05:16] <edbian> Vustom, what do you mean reformat windows vista and install windows vista?  Is it not already installed?  I thought we were talking about xp and Ubuntu here?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: yes, Grub2 can boot both, installing Ubuntu last means that wil all be handled for you
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> kofte: a sound card
[05:16] <sacarlson> Vustom: yup, if you hold shirt at boot you could select what you want to boot
[05:16] <sacarlson> shift
[05:16] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: no i just installed it and everything else today and while i was organizing all my icons i accidently ereased it in the trash bin
[05:17] <Vustom> does it have a sexy interface
[05:17] <Vustom> or does it look like cmd
[05:17] <Vustom> ?
[05:17] <Vustom> the boot selection
[05:17] <Vustom> :D
[05:17] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: What did you put in the trash?
[05:17] <bobmarley> hey i have my backups how can re back my old box ?
[05:17] <sacarlson> Vustom: default is text they have fancy ones
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: it can, you can give it a background and stuff, if you want you can use BURG which is more graphical but isn't supported here
[05:17] <edbian> Vustom, it's 'sexy' please try and keep things on one line
[05:17] <ApacheOmega> the actual folder i extracted to the desktop
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: considering the boot selection is on the screen for mere seconds, why do you care?
[05:18] <rote0000> slt
[05:18] <Vustom> I don't i guess
[05:18] <edbian> Vustom, Literally mine is up for 5 seconds (and I'm gonna shorten it today)
[05:18] <Vustom> 1 more questions
[05:18] <kofte> ActionParsnip: it's an integrated sound card in an Acer Aspire.
[05:18] <edbian> Vustom, You can ask as many questions as you like
[05:18] <bobmarley> any body have any answer ? of my question hum ?
[05:18] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: the actual folder i extracted to the desktop
[05:18] <Vustom> If i have a file on the Windows Vista (same hd) and want to move it on the Ubuntu desktop
[05:18] <Vustom> is it easy?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: you can make grub2 nice if you like. Like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=grub2.theme.bennett.png
[05:18] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: Did you install the mysql server from the repositories or from source?
[05:18] <AbhijiT> !backup | bobmarley
[05:19] <edbian> Vustom, It's very easy to use Ubuntu to read the windows partition.  It is slightly more difficult to read the Ubuntu partition from within windows
[05:19] <AbhijiT> !burg | Vustom
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: ubuntu can read and write NTFS. Windows cannot access Ext4 at all which is what ubuntu uses
[05:19] <bobmarley> thanks AbhijiT
[05:19]  * Vustom scratches head
[05:19] <sacarlson> Vustom: you don't have to move it will auto mount and you can read and edit most files
[05:19] <edbian> ActionParsnip, There is some program that lets windows read ext2 (but I don't think it's very stable)
[05:19] <bezao> i'm getting "failed to bring up eth0" on "/etc/init.d/networking restart" this happens everytime i format my seven, ubuntu runs on virtualbox, the vbox is already on bridge connection! can someone help?
[05:19] <Vustom> ohok
[05:19] <Vustom> awesome
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> edbian: default fs in Lucid and Maverick is Ext4
[05:20] <Vustom> I have a 700MB cd that I can put Ubuntu on
[05:20] <Vustom> is that big enough?
[05:20] <edbian> Vustom, Ubuntu can edit the windows files, windows cannot edit the ubuntu files
[05:20] <edbian> ActionParsnip, that's just ext2 with more features
[05:20] <AbhijiT> Vustom, yes
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: yes, be sure to MD5 test the ISO you use
[05:20] <edbian> Bustyes
[05:20] <Vustom> how do i MD5 test the cd?
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> edbian: true but its not accessible from windows with the app from fs-driver.org
[05:20] <sacarlson> Vustom: yup that's big enuf, but you can also install with a usb flash disk
[05:20] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: i dont know i just downloaded then went through Apache-php and now mysql installation and i'm now stuck
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Vustom
[05:20] <edbian> ActionParsnip, ah, thanks
[05:21] <kofte> Vustom: Yes you can, but I recommend the following: make a separate partition (other than the partition with XP and Ubuntu) that will be used for storing files, and that both OS can access.
[05:21] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: Did you go to a website and download it?
[05:21] <Vustom> Are there any other apps like grub2?
[05:21] <AbhijiT> Vustom, burg
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> edbian: I believe its being worked on but I personally think microsoft should get their ass in gear
[05:21] <AbhijiT> and lilo
[05:21] <edbian> Vustom, burg, lilo, grub1  but who cares?
[05:21] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: yeah the apache friends site
[05:21] <edbian> ActionParsnip, who cares what they do
[05:21] <bezao> i'm getting "failed to bring up eth0" on "/etc/init.d/networking restart" this happens everytime i format my seven, ubuntu runs on virtualbox, the vbox is already on bridge connection! can someone help?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> edbian: folks who dualboot
[05:22] <edbian> ActionParsnip, haha, not me :)
[05:22] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: Are you trying to get a LAMP (Linux/Apache/Mysql/PHP) server running?
[05:22] <Vustom> I noticed that Ubuntu has a music store and it says you can stream music
[05:22] <edbian> Vustom, yep
[05:22] <bobmarley> :)
[05:22] <Vustom> can i stream full sound tracks? just like grooveshark
[05:22] <avis> any audiobooks ?
[05:22] <AbhijiT> !manual | Vustom you first read this
[05:22] <Assid> anyoe here use gnucash? or can recommend any other decent form of account management
[05:22] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: yeah - I'm looking at my root folder right now that says LAMP
[05:22] <AbhijiT> Assid, homebank
[05:23] <Vustom> thanks.. ill go read it
[05:23] <Vustom> :D
[05:23] <edbian> Vustom, have fun
[05:23] <kofte> thanks for the help everyone
[05:23] <kofte> later
[05:23]  * Vustom hates reading
[05:23] <AbhijiT> Vustom, this is linux. you must read...
[05:23] <edbian> Vustom, That's like saying you hate learning
[05:24] <Assid> AbhijiT: im guessing it supports import from qif?
[05:24] <shcherbak> Vustom: install festival, it reads for you.
[05:24] <AbhijiT> Assid, i should. you check their site
[05:24] <thejoker> I need help my download is horribly slow
[05:24] <Vustom> o
[05:24] <thejoker> any help willb e appreciated
[05:24] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: You'll be surprised at how much easier it is to do with the package manager.  Try 'sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server' in terminal.
[05:25] <AbhijiT> thejoker, try axe
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> thejoker: from all sites? Have you tried torrents
[05:26] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: During the installation, it will ask you for a root password for the mysql server.  Remember the password you enter there, because that will be the password you will use to connect as the root user to the mysql server in the future.
[05:26] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: do I put that all in one line?
[05:26] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: Yes
[05:26] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: Everything after the install command will be installed.
[05:26] <xormor> ActionParsnip: I checked out the Program Sources, I enabled the CD-ROM. Should I enable backports?
[05:26] <bezao> i'm getting "failed to bring up eth0" on "/etc/init.d/networking restart" this happens everytime i format my seven, ubuntu runs on virtualbox, the vbox is already on bridge connection! can someone help?
[05:27] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: ok I'm gonna try it out now
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> xormor: CDROM isn't needed as you have a web access
[05:27] <EmuAlert> Is there any way to paste a file location into the terminal without the "file://"?
[05:27] <xormor> ActionParsnip: ok. I will try to enable it all in the Program Sources.
[05:27] <AbhijiT> EmuAlert, ctrl shift v
[05:27] <Vustom> If i download Ubuntu and run it off my desktop, just to use the "Try Ubuntu" feature, will that be ok?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> EmuAlert: you'll need to mount the location, you should find it in ~/.gvfs
[05:28] <Vustom> or will i need to burn to disc and restart comp?
[05:28] <wiseguyxp> bezao: Run the 'ifconfig' command in terminal and see if you have an eth0 interface defined.
[05:28] <thejoker> Im connected on my wireless network and it takes about a 5 hours to download 30Mb of updates
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: to test it, yes. The install ability is there too
[05:28] <thejoker> any ideas
[05:28] <thejoker> ?
[05:28] <diegoaguilar> hello,
[05:28] <diegoaguilar> I need some help with ubunut
[05:28] <edbian> Vustom, I suggest you burn the CD and restart.  But you can install using wubi (which makes installing even simpler) but is a bit of a hack and usually has bugs
[05:29] <diegoaguilar> exactly, I need to see my windows files
[05:29] <rtdos> how can i uninstall the default gnome / ubuntu games without uninstalling the gnome / ubuntu desktop ?
[05:29] <AbhijiT> !details | diegoaguilar
[05:29] <edbian> diegoaguilar, go to computer -> double click your windows drive -> edit away my friend
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> thejoker: try a different server
[05:29] <rockcolttumtum> i'm having trouble getting win7 to boot from grub (ubuntu 10.10) if anyone can lend a hand let me know or send me an IM. i don't want to trouble the chat room with my noobness
[05:29] <bezao> wiseguyxp nop, only got 'lo'
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: you'll find the answers to all your questions if you just use the OS
[05:30] <edbian> Vustom, yes, bite the bullet.  Burn the cd, boot it :)
[05:30] <Vustom> ok :)
[05:30] <wiseguyxp> thejoker: Try going to System > Administration > Update Manager.  Click Settings at the bottom.  Go to the Ubuntu Software tab and click the dropdown for 'download from'.  Click 'other'.  Click 'select best server' and let it do its thing.
[05:30] <Vustom> 1 more thing
[05:30] <thejoker> different server ???
[05:30] <edbian> Vustom, what
[05:30] <Vustom> does Ubuntu run faster then XP/Vista etc?
[05:30] <edbian> Vustom, I think so
[05:30] <EmuAlert> rtdos, go to Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center, click on Installed Software and uninstall anything you don't want
[05:30] <rockcolttumtum> yes. impo
[05:31] <Vustom> k :D
[05:31] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: Ok this is what it says now---------------- Reading package lists... Done
[05:31] <edbian> Vustom, it doesn't get bogged down with a bunch of spyware and junk
[05:31] <ApacheOmega> Building dependency tree
[05:31] <ApacheOmega> Reading state information... Done
[05:31] <ApacheOmega> apache2 is already the newest version.
[05:31] <ApacheOmega> libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version.
[05:31] <FloodBot1> ApacheOmega: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <ApacheOmega> mysql-server is already the newest version.
[05:31] <Vustom> .. thanks for reminding me
[05:31] <Vustom> what security programs can i use
[05:31] <Vustom> D:
[05:32] <edbian> Vustom, you don't need any :)
[05:32] <ApacheOmega> sorry about the floodage people
[05:32] <Vustom> WUT
[05:32] <Vustom> :O
[05:32] <Vustom> why not
[05:32] <Vustom> ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: depends on config. I can make XP stupidly fast but it won't do much useful stuff
[05:32] <AbhijiT> !virus | Vustom
[05:32] <edbian> Vustom, arguably the best part of linux.  It's much more secure.  You don't need anti-virus, anti-spyware, or a firewall really
[05:32] <AbhijiT> Vustom, please read that manual. it has all your answeres.
[05:32] <Vustom> o
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: there is a firewall built in and you can configure that, if you use a router it's not really needed
[05:33] <wiseguyxp> bezao: It's probably an issue with VirtualBox not bridging the interface correctly.  Did you make sure that you have the network interface enabled?
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> !manual | Vustom
[05:33] <rockcolttumtum> i'm having trouble getting win7 to boot from grub (ubuntu 10.10) if anyone can lend a hand let me know or send me an IM. i don't want to trouble the chat room with my noobness
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: read the manual, then ask questions
[05:33] <bezao> wiseguyxp sure it's enabled, i got this problem last time i formated windows, but i did not remember what i've did, but i got help from here
[05:33] <Assid> AbhijiT: what format does the date have to be to work with homebank ?? its not letting me import correctly
[05:33] <DingGGu> what dpkg in "iomanip.h" ?
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> rockcolttumtum: try:  sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[05:34] <Vustom> whats the size of ubuntu?
[05:34] <Hobbes> Windows should be first when duel booting with linux because if its second, it will destroy linuxs boot system or something, right? Could I install ubuntu, win7, then ubuntu a second time to restore that boot file?
[05:34] <gary_> hello?
[05:34] <DingGGu> hello guys, what dpkg in "iomanip.h" ?
[05:34] <rockcolttumtum> okay action. so just in that order?
[05:34] <Guest11871> never been to this thing. what is it?
[05:34] <AbhijiT> Assid, no idea. check their docs/wiki
[05:34] <Vustom> nvm
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: about 3Gb with all the useful stuff
[05:34] <Vustom> 700mb
[05:34] <Vustom> :D
[05:34] <Vustom> o
[05:34] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: It looks like you have everything installed already.  Take a look at this link to reset the password: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html#resetting-permissions-generic
[05:34] <rockcolttumtum> or all at once?
[05:34] <Ziber> !fonts
[05:34] <Guest11871> does anyone know how to format stuff using awk? i got stuck doing something trying to work through some tomcat access logs
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: installed, it includes a full office suite, full CD / DVD burning software and other nicenesses
[05:34] <Guest11871> ???
[05:34] <diegoaguilar> hello i run ubuntu 10 10, i installed it from windows
[05:34] <wiseguyxp> bezao: I know I've done this before too, but I can't remember what I did either :)
[05:35] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: thanks a lot buddy
[05:35] <Vustom> thats nice
[05:35] <Vustom> and the music store?
[05:35] <bezao> wiseguyxp when i run 'dhclient' ubuntu brings up eth1, with a network ip(192...) but i cant ping it by windows, or check for updated on ubuntu
[05:35] <edbian> Vustom, It's got that too
[05:35] <edbian> diegoaguilar, so what?
[05:36] <Guest11871> hey bezao why dont you watch your /var/log/messages
[05:36] <orang> ae
[05:36] <Guest11871> ifconfig ethx up & tail -f /var/log/messages
[05:36] <diegoaguilar> so I need to see my windows files
[05:36] <Guest11871> it will show you whats fucked up
[05:36] <wiseguyxp> bezao: You need to modify your /etc/network/interfaces file to use eth1 instead of eth0
[05:36] <Hobbes> Windows should be first when duel booting with linux because if its second, it will destroy linuxs boot system or something, right? Could I install ubuntu, win7, then ubuntu a second time to restore that boot file?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: yes thats installed
[05:37] <edbian> diegoaguilar, go to places -> computer.  What is listed there?
[05:37] <rtdos> @emualert, when i do it appears to be uninstalling gnome-desktop
[05:37] <bezao> Guest11871 got a lot of erros, lol
[05:37] <edbian> Hobbes, why don't you install win7 then Ubuntu and only have to install ubuntu once?  (yes you are correct about windows destroying grub)
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Hobbes: yes, windows will nuke the MBR with its own
[05:37] <Guest11871> if you see too many errors then pipe to grep for your dhcp stuff assuming thats what you commented about
[05:37] <bezao> wiseguyxp nah, last time someone helped me to change eth1 to eth0, then it worked, but i doint remember how
[05:37] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: this is the last question - when I want to type some PHP code noe I can just go to bluefish I know but how do I get my code to compile in php?
[05:37] <Vustom> you know how on windows the startup screen before the login screen always is stretched ? is this the same on ubuntu
[05:38] <Guest11871> anybody use sed awk, grep etc here?
[05:38] <Hobbes> edbian: Because it would be easier to get windows once I have a working PC with linux
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Hobbes: if you do it the other way, you will need to boot to live CD and reinstate the bootloader, if you just do it the other way you will have no problems
[05:38] <edbian> Vustom, I don't know what you're talking about.  Nothing on windows will affect Ubuntu and vica-versa.  There is a good chance Ubuntu will not have that problem.
[05:38] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: You don't compile PHP.  You put it in your web directory (usually /var/www) and navigate to it with a web browser.
[05:38] <Guest11871> stuck on somethin
[05:38] <Vustom> k :)
[05:38] <edbian> Hobbes, Is it easy to get linux without a working PC?  I'm confused
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest11871: ask away (you will benefit from asking in #bash too)
[05:39] <Hobbes> Just trust me edbian
[05:39] <Vustom> does anybody know if Ubuntu supports Adobe Photoshop CS5?
[05:39] <diegoaguilar> edbian, I see systemfiles, cd/dvd and system, but not my windows partition
[05:39] <ApacheOmega> wiseguyxp: OK cool I think I'll get some rest and get back at it tomorrow - thanks for everything
[05:39] <wiseguyxp> bezao: Last time you installed Ubuntu?
[05:39] <Guest11871> trying to use prinft, but the first two columns are in an array
[05:39] <edbian> Hobbes, haha, ok  Are you the same hobbes from before?
[05:39] <wiseguyxp> ApacheOmega: No problem
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: you may be able to install it in wine. chaeck the appdb for compatibility
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Vustom
[05:39] <bezao> wiseguyxp last time i formated windows, i had this same issue, with ubuntu network on vbox,
[05:39] <edbian> diegoaguilar, what is in system?, what is in systemfiles?
[05:39] <Guest11871> so it tells me not enough crap provided for formatting
[05:39] <Vustom> thanks
[05:39] <Hobbes> I'm that hobbes evil digital bot twin
[05:39] <Vustom> ima go read all these links
[05:39] <EmuAlert> rtdos, I think you're uninstalling the wrong thing. If you're trying to uninstall a game, you should only be able to see its logo and read more about it/see a screen shot in the description. If its icon is just a box with some stuff in it, you probably shouldn't be uninstalling it
[05:39] <Vustom> if i get stuck ill be back on ltr
[05:39] <edbian> Hobbes, curious
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: there are many opensource graphic packages out there you can use instead
[05:39] <edbian> Vustom, have fun
[05:40] <Guest11871> my objective is to work through tomcat localhost_access_logs, i already grabbed date and did stiff, then up and basically used associative arry to mimic group by two columns then count
[05:40] <sacarlson> Vustom: I used to use photoshop but now gimp on linux does about the same things
[05:40] <Guest11871> but the formatting is screwed up
[05:40] <edbian> sacarlson, Vustom gimp is great :)
[05:40] <dragonkeeper> is there any way i can make my desktop screen capture and broadcast as a webcam...live   ???
[05:40] <Guest11871> and i dont know how to give 2 format args to an arry and thenn cnt
[05:41] <Hobbes> ActionParsnip: I didn't quit follow you, so I could install linux, then windows, then linux again to restore the MBR?
[05:41] <edbian> Hobbes, then will work.
[05:41] <edbian> Hobbes, but installing windows first is easier.  That's all he's saying (you already know that)
[05:41] <wiseguyxp> bezao: Can you copy your /etc/networking/interfaces file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give me the link?
[05:41] <Hobbes> Does unetbootin format the flash drive to fat32?
[05:42] <diegoaguilar> edbian, in system only the boot and system volume formation of windows
[05:42] <diegoaguilar> edbian,  and system files, the ubuntu files
[05:42] <edbian> diegoaguilar, are you sure it's not somewhere in system?  It must be! :)
[05:42] <edbian> diegoaguilar, Look deepr
[05:43] <diegoaguilar> its not :S
[05:43] <diegoaguilar> edbian, its not
[05:43] <edbian> diegoaguilar, what is the output sudo fdisk -l?  pastebin it for me
[05:43] <bezao> wiseguyxp has the default, "auto lo" "iface lo inet loopback" "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[05:43] <jethrot> PHP was recently updated on my server, and now when I turn display_errors on it puts out pages upon pages of errors.  However, when I change things in php.ini, it display_error makes changes but error_reporting doesn't modify that.. what could be overriding it?
[05:44] <jethrot> someone in #php said my copy is broken
[05:44] <wiseguyxp> bezao: If dhclient worked for eth1, it show an entry in 'ifconfig'
[05:44] <Hobbes> How does unitbootin decide what format to use? Or does it just use what ever format is already existing?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Hobbes: you don't install ubuntu a 2nd time, you can use the live CD to put the bootloader back on the disk. Why not make your life EASIER by simply installing Windows first as you have been advised by nearly every active user?
[05:45] <bezao> wiseguyxp sure! it shows eth1 192.168.0.45
[05:45] <edbian> Hobbes, formate of what?
[05:45] <thejoker> any idea why wireless connection is so slow
[05:45] <bezao> but i cant ping my router or my windows local ip wiseguyxp
[05:45] <diegoaguilar> edbian,  Dispositivo Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
[05:45] <diegoaguilar> /dev/sda1   *           1          26      203776    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:45] <diegoaguilar> La partición 1 no termina en un límite de cilindro.
[05:45] <diegoaguilar> /dev/sda2              26       58597   470470656    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:45] <diegoaguilar> /dev/sda3           58597       60789    17604608    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:45] <diegoaguilar> /dev/sda4           60789       60802      105496    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[05:45] <FloodBot1> diegoaguilar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <wiseguyxp> bezao: Are you pinging by IP address?
[05:46] <edbian> !pasetbin | diegoaguilar,
[05:46] <bezao> wiseguyxp yes
[05:46] <Hobbes> Of the flash drive, like Fat32, ext 4 etc
[05:46] <edbian> !pastebin | diegoaguilar,
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> thejoker: run:   sudo lshw -C network    and use http://pastie.org
[05:46] <diegoaguilar> !pastebin
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> thejoker: to give the output
[05:46] <_skpl> emualert haha
[05:46] <edbian> Hobbes, I don't think it changes it.
[05:46] <dragonkeeper> is there any way i can capture a desktop screen and make it a video device so i can broadcast it as a webcam ?
[05:46] <Hobbes> edbian so it would be fine to use whatever you want?
[05:47] <wiseguyxp> bezao: Try the 'route' command.  What does the default destination line say?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> dragonkeeper: recordmydesktop
[05:47] <edbian> Hobbes, Are you installing Ubuntu onto it?  If you are it will change the format to ext4
[05:47] <edbian> diegoaguilar, sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[05:47] <dragonkeeper> ActionParsnip   that just records   i want to broadcast it live  ...
[05:47] <edbian> diegoaguilar, sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows
[05:47] <rockcolttumtum> Action I tried your script and it didn't do anything. I'm not sure what I did wrong but trying to start win7 from grub brings me back to grub
[05:48] <Hobbes> edbian not installing ubuntu onto it, but making it a bootable for using it to install onto HDD
[05:48] <edbian> What do you guys think?  Is diegoaguilar's windows files on /dev/sda2 ?
[05:48] <edbian> Hobbes, What OS then?  windows?
[05:48] <bezao> wiseguyxp 192.168.0.1
[05:48] <Hobbes> Id be creating it under XP
[05:48] <onekenthomas> using simple backup,  is it possible to be emailed if backup fails?
[05:48] <thejoker> ok done
[05:48] <wiseguyxp> bezao: That's what the gateway says?  The mask is 0.0.0.0 and the Iface is eth1, correct?
[05:49] <edbian> Hobbes, Making a usb drive boot-able is pointless if there is no OS on it
[05:49] <bezao> wiseguyxp yes, it's like that
[05:49] <Hobbes> Id be turning it into a "live CD"
[05:49] <Hobbes> But I wouldn't be running off it except to install
[05:49] <edbian> Hobbes, then you're putting the ubuntu ISO onto it?  It will become ext4
[05:49] <Hobbes> To install ubunto onto a HDD
[05:50] <edbian> Hobbes, yeah I get it.  The drive will become ext4
[05:50] <Hobbes> If it does that, then I won't be able to do anything with it from XP though, right?
[05:50] <edbian> Hobbes, umm yeah.  What do you want to do with it from xp anyway though?  (I thought you didn't have xp installed in the first place) ?
[05:50] <Hobbes> How can I create a format that isn't recognized by the  OS that its being created it from?
[05:51] <avis> i had run across a script which i believe i still have which is a nautilus actions script and allows you to share any file on your hard drive to gvfs web or some such a web address that would like to the file shared.  my port 80 is blocked so if it does indeed work i'm wondering if it would be any trouble to move it over to port 8080 ?  script is here:  http://pastebin.com/rGJMzS3R
[05:51] <edbian> Hobbes, unetbootin knows it
[05:51] <wiseguyxp> bezao: And you're saying you can't ping 192.168.0.1?
[05:52] <Hobbes> But what if I need to make a correction or want to add more onto the USB flash drive?
[05:52] <edbian> Hobbes, Follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickQuick
[05:52] <edbian> Hobbes, you wanna correct the Ubuntu image?
[05:52] <IanWizard> Ok, so I've got this brand new usb cdrom drive, and I'm trying to dd it to get an iso, but after 5MB (exactly), it just stops.  Wha?
[05:52] <bezao> wiseguyxp yes, i cant ping 192.168.0.1(router), and my win box(192.168.0.21), ubuntu is 192.168.0.45
[05:52] <edbian> Hobbes, the Ubuntu image is the only thing that will be on the usb stick
[05:52] <edbian> Hobbes, when you're done you can erase it.  You just can't read/write the ext4 filesystem that's on there from in windows
[05:53] <thejoker> ok i went to that site
[05:53] <thejoker> http://pastie.org/1533072
[05:53] <Hobbes> That link should be unnecessary with unetbootin I would think
[05:53] <edbian> Hobbes, unetbootin can be used to achieve the same thing but the guide help walks you through it more
[05:54] <Hobbes> This guide says nothing about unetbootin, and talks as though your not using it.
[05:54] <EmuAlert> Is there a way to have multiple desktop rows but still have them all arranged side-by-side on the panel? Or have only one row but have them arranged in a grid when you do expo?
[05:54] <Hobbes> Like this guide speaks of downloading the ISO, unetbootin does that for you
[05:55] <wiseguyxp> bezao: It seems like everything is set correctly.  Do you remember at all what you did last time to fix it?
[05:55] <edbian> Hobbes, I know.  It uses a different app instead.  It's a similar idea though once you get past those details
[05:55] <naptastic> Is Ubiquity the name of the Ubuntu installer?
[05:55] <bezao> wiseguyxp nop, thats the problem :/
[05:55] <Hobbes> Well I can't really use the guide if its that different
[05:55] <edbian> naptastic, yes
[05:55] <bezao> this time i'll write so i wont forget it wiseguyxp
[05:55] <edbian> Hobbes, You can when you're running the installer
[05:55] <Ziber> If I have a CD of ubuntu 8.04, can I just apt-get dist-upgrade to get to 10?
[05:55] <bezao> thx anyway wiseguyxp i need to sleep i'll ask later, maybe someone knows :)
[05:56] <naptastic> edbian, thanks. :-)
[05:56] <wiseguyxp> bezao: No problem.  Sorry I couldn't get it fixed for ya.
[05:56] <Hobbes> So why can't one install ubuntu twice?
[05:56] <Hobbes> How difficult/complicated/technical is it to restore that file windows instillation destroys?
[05:57] <bezao> np wiseguyxp gnite
[05:57] <edbian> Hobbes, it's technical, it's not hard
[05:57] <edbian> naptastic, no problem
[05:57] <Ziber> Also, when running it live, why wont it detect both monitors? I have an external monitor attached to my laptop and its only using that one, not my laptop screen.
[05:57] <edbian> Hobbes, you can install Ubuntu twice.  It's just silly
[05:57] <Fuddledumpy> Hello everyon
[05:57] <Hobbes> edbian: unless restoring that file is too complicated for me
[05:58] <Luvz2drv> how do i install the KDE desktop on 10.10
[05:58] <edbian> Hobbes, In the event that it is too complicated for you then yes it will be difficult / complicated / technical for you.
[05:58] <AbhijiT> Luvz2drv, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <edbian> AbhijiT, Beat me too it!
[05:58] <thejoker420> It is taking for ever to update ubuntu any ideas
[05:58] <thejoker420> ?
[05:58] <Fuddledumpy> sudo make me a sandwich
[05:58] <AbhijiT> edbian, amm??????
[05:58] <Hobbes> That link, does that include instructions in restoring that file?
[05:59] <edbian> AbhijiT, I was gonna say that to Luvz2drv
[05:59] <AbhijiT> edbian, ok
[05:59] <Ziber> anyone?
[05:59] <AbhijiT> !dualhead | Ziber
[05:59] <edbian> Hobbes, It does not.  But here is one that does
[05:59] <edbian> !restoregrub
[05:59] <Hobbes> Thats not a link...
[06:00] <edbian> What is it somebody?  !restore-grub?
[06:00] <edbian> Hobbes, I'm trying to get the bot to say it
[06:00] <Hobbes> Someone changed the code?
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Hobbes: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[06:00] <edbian> !grub | Hobbes
[06:00] <edbian> there it is
[06:01] <Hobbes> OK, which of those links should I use? Or do I need them all?
[06:01] <edbian> Hobbes, well I'm going to bed. Good luck with your linux install!
[06:01] <avis> any way to trace the cause of my last system halt/lockup ?
[06:01] <edbian> Hobbes, Follow any one of them you want.  There is more than one way to fix grub.  Many of them problem are the exact same process
[06:02] <Ziber> !xinerma
[06:02] <Hobbes> Edbian if you wait a moment, I can explain why I may need to install linux, then windows
[06:02] <avis> aren't there 2 gui packages useful in grub2 things ?
[06:02] <Ziber> !Xinerama
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Hobbes: I personally prefer http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide . It's more steps than some other guides, but there is less room for error.
[06:02] <Hobbes> If your interested
[06:02] <edbian> Hobbes, sure, lay it on me
[06:03] <Hobbes> Dang links load on the same page so one replaces the next
[06:03] <thejoker420> i need help
[06:03] <AbhijiT> edbian, :D
[06:03] <avis> i do believe Jordan is correct especially in cases where windows has been installed and wiped out the MBR
[06:03] <edbian> Hobbes, are terrible
[06:03] <AbhijiT> thejoker420, ask
[06:03] <edbian> AbhijiT, :)
[06:03] <thejoker420> i need help with my wireless connection
[06:03] <_CommandeR_> how do I extend an extended partition ?
[06:03] <thejoker420> its taking forever to update
[06:03] <AbhijiT> !gparted | _CommandeR_
[06:04] <edbian> Hobbes, Please tell me!  I'm on the edge of my seat here
[06:04] <_CommandeR_> AbhijiT, Already got it
[06:04] <Hobbes> I got a ancient old computer, got a brand new computer from parts (still need a case though, coming shortly)  I don't have the HDD space for directly downloading win7, but if I can get linux onto the new computer, I can download win7 there.
[06:04] <thejoker420> 270MB estimated at 13 hours
[06:04] <_CommandeR_> got ~50GiB unused space and want to make a partition however all logical are used and already got an extended
[06:05] <avis> i use windows xp pro under virtualbox its extremely light
[06:05] <AbhijiT> Hobbes, install linux first then install windows and then just restore grub. it takes only 2 minutes
[06:05] <Hobbes> With 2tb on the new drive, space is not a issue, and I can burn win7 there even
[06:05] <edbian> Hobbes, Why not use the live CD to download windows 7?
[06:05] <edbian> Hobbes, and burn it?
[06:06] <edbian> Hobbes, anywho, I'm going to bed.  Have fun with that! :)
[06:06] <Hobbes> Oh, eh, maybe, but It might take awhile
[06:06] <avis> if you have an operating system it isn't too much trouble to put win 7 on a usb drive, totally offtopic, full responsiblity taken, however, everyone is offtopic ;)
[06:06] <edbian> Hobbes, It won't be any slower
[06:07] <Hobbes> I mean the win7 download might take awhile, and it would be nice to be able to do other things in the mean time, but you have a point
[06:08] <Hobbes> Avis: it also has to be bootable, and I don't have my instructions for makign a bootable win7 flash drive yet, but it may be difficult, anyway win7 is huge
[06:08] <Hobbes> I may have to download it twice
[06:08] <avis> Hobbes, i dont mind copying and pasting into a message for you if that'll help
[06:09] <avis> may i PM you Hobbes ?
[06:09] <Hobbes> avis: I don't know what your talking about, go ahead
[06:09] <avis> they hang people for much less than this ;)  in here
[06:09] <Hobbes> No need to ask permission to PM me
[06:09] <Hobbes> If I don't like your PM, I can tell you to get lost or ignore you there :p
[06:10] <Ziber> I've followed the Xinerama tutorial, how do I 'reload' X?
[06:10] <Assid> anyone here uses gnucash?
[06:10] <Assid> homebank has a few bugs with the date going off
[06:11] <AbhijiT> Assid, whts wrong with gnucash?
[06:11] <Assid> AbhijiT: it converts all my categories to seperate ledgers
[06:12] <Assid> and theres no way to set an opening balance.. so i had to create a new ledger .. to set my opening balance
[06:13] <AbhijiT> Assid, http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/49400
[06:14] <Ziber> !X
[06:15] <Ten-Eight> Assid: I've been using Homebank 3.6 for a couple of years and have never experienced any problem with the date. Are you referring to the latest version?
[06:16] <Hobbes> Heh, avis disappeared on me
[06:16] <Assid> the latest in ubuntu... im in india..so my system date format is probably causing it
[06:16] <Ten-Eight> Assid: okay...was just checking.
[06:16] <Ten-Eight> Assid: I've not used the latest version. I'm still on 8.04 on the system where I use Homebank.
[06:18] <nixjr> if "ls | sed 's#$#<br>#'" appends <br> to the end of each line, what command would be used to place it at the start of each line instead?
[06:21] <arthurh> So, I blacklisted iwlagn on my 6300 to see if I could get ndiswrapper to work with N (I know there's an issue with the ucode on the intel 6300s and 2.4 or 5ghz N which I was experiencing) and came to the conclusion that ndiswrapper is not going to work -- so I unblacklisted iwlagn, blacklisted ndiswrapper, and now the iwlagn module doesn't autoload at boot anymore! -- I have to modprobe it after every boot to get wireless working -- anyone have an idea wha
[06:21] <arthurh> t's going on?
[06:27] <lwizardl> hello
[06:28] <paq7512> hi
[06:30] <TpyoKnig> is there a way to reset my current password if im logged in? without booting from a live cd, i changed it and now its not taking my new pass or old pass..
[06:31] <maco> TpyoKnig: type "passwd"
[06:31] <TpyoKnig> i've done that and it asks for current password
[06:31] <TpyoKnig> then i enter what i typed and it says incorrect
[06:31] <erik71usaaa> just wish 10.10 would work with my video card
[06:31] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: you can boot in recover or single user mode and change passwords
[06:31] <erik71usaaa> i wud even buy a new video card
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> TpyoKnig: run: passwd   and you can reset your own pass
[06:32] <TpyoKnig> when I try the passwd route
[06:32] <TpyoKnig> it says
[06:32] <TpyoKnig> "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error"
[06:32] <erik71usaaa> i get blank screen on start up
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> TpyoKnig: try: sudo -i   then run:  passwd route
[06:33] <galamar> would it be ok to ask a question here even though i asked in #ubuntu+1
[06:33] <erik71usaaa> i hav nvidia pci express video card
[06:34] <TpyoKnig> ActionParsnip: [sudo] password for user:
[06:34] <TpyoKnig> no go :-/
[06:34] <erik71usaaa> \if anyone has any suggestions
[06:34] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: sorry I misread your first statement , I thought you couldn't login, ignore my last suggestion
[06:34] <erik71usaaa> im still running 9.04
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> TpyoKnig: ok then reboot and hold shift, select recovery mode, then select root, you can now run: passwd route
[06:35] <rww> erik71usaaa: 9.04 isn't supported here, since it reached End of Life in October.
[06:35] <TpyoKnig> well... cant do that either... this is on a CR48...
[06:35] <erik71usaaa> im aware of that
[06:35] <erik71usaaa> im trying to find a videom card that will work
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> TpyoKnig: what's a CR48?
[06:37] <erik71usaaa> sorry rww whats the best video card to buy
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: it doesn't exist
[06:37] <rww> erik71usaaa: I have a Radeon HD 3450 that works fine for me. Your taste and experience may vary.
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: nvidia support linux very well
[06:37] <erik71usaaa> i mean that does not give me blank
[06:38] <Blue1> ati or nvidia is well supported.  and intel support is growing.
[06:38] <TpyoKnig> ActionParsnip:  the google laptop that comes with "ChromiumOS" and I've replaced with Ubuntu 10.10 BUT it doesnt use a standard bootloader
[06:38] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: looks like a type there?  man passwd
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: if you get black screen at boot use: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[06:38] <erik71usaaa> was it just the intel onbaord
[06:38] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: typo
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> TpyoKnig: if you install 10.10 then it will have grub2 installed
[06:39] <erik71usaaa> do i hav to use grub 2
[06:40] <galamar> i get this error while trying to update          "Error authenticating some packages It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages."                     how can i authenticate these?
[06:40] <erik71usaaa> im not good at editing
[06:40] <avis> my computer is randomly crashing and i'd like to be able to track down what is causing it.  its worked all day without any issues.
[06:40] <AbhijiT> can i have lifereado sit on panel and alert me when new feed update? like yarssr?
[06:40] <erik71usaaa> but if i new list of video cards
[06:40] <erik71usaaa> that work
[06:40] <erik71usaaa> i would buy one
[06:40] <rww> !hcl
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> galamar: can you use http://pastie.org and give the output of: sudo apt-get update
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | erik71usaaa
[06:41] <TpyoKnig> I think this is my problem:
[06:41] <TpyoKnig> http://mohammednv.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/authentication-token-manipulation-error-when-changing-user-passwords-in-linux/
[06:42] <nit-wit> erik71usaaa, are you sure it is a card failure, and are you dual booted?
[06:42] <erik71usaaa> ok ill try it
[06:42] <erik71usaaa> no
[06:42] <erik71usaaa> its 64mb nvidia pci express
[06:43] <AbhijiT> anone knows any rss reader which sits on panel?
[06:43] <erik71usaaa> i  got this server board from a friend
[06:43] <galamar> ActionParsnip: how do i use pastie.org?
[06:43] <Starminn> My WINE menu (under Applications->Wine->Programs->*) isn't refreshing. I've reinstalled it but it still shows old programs as well as not displaying something I just installed through it (it worked before on my original install but not now). How might I force WINE to refresh, or where might I locate help for this?
[06:43] <nit-wit> erik71usaaa, have you edited the kernel at boot to nomodeset to get in yet.
[06:43] <erik71usaaa> no
[06:44] <newer_than_you> How do I get tlc?
[06:44] <erik71usaaa> im not good at editing
[06:44] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: sounds posible if you created your users manualy by manipulated /etc/password and /etc/shadow files
[06:44] <nit-wit> erik71usaaa, that works in grub2 to turn off the driver for the card.
[06:45] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: you could sudo -s ; more /etc/shadow
[06:45] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: and verify that the shadow entry exists
[06:46] <nit-wit> erik71usaaa, this is easy and does not stay beyond the edit, it is a persession edit.
[06:46] <erik71usaaa> ok
[06:46] <erik71usaaa> i figured if i bought right video
[06:46] <erik71usaaa> i noy need to edit
[06:47] <erik71usaaa> im lucky my system does not hav onboard video
[06:48] <Blue1> mine does works fine
[06:48] <TpyoKnig> sacarlson: it is there, so I booted into Chrome (which is Linux) and chrooted into it and set the password that way
[06:48] <nit-wit> erik71usaaa, bot to the grub menu hit e for edit use the arrow keys to navigate to the end of the kernel or where there are other commands in the first kernel end. Remove any nvidia notation and replace it with nomodeset, hit crtl-x to boot.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> erik71usaaa: Your card probably will work with Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10.
[06:48] <erik71usaaa> wats the command
[06:48] <newer_than_you> !help tlc
[06:48] <nit-wit> Jordan_U, you are probably correct.
[06:48] <erik71usaaa> in terminal
[06:48] <newer_than_you> !tlc
[06:48] <erik71usaaa> to say wat video i hav
[06:49] <Jordan_U> nit-wit: I don't think 9.04 had KMS for nvidia, so nomodeset would do nothing.
[06:49] <erik71usaaa> hey 9.04 works great
[06:49] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: aren't they in different partitions?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: sudo lshw -C display
[06:49] <nit-wit> Jordan_U, I wondered about that I saw indications it would work with grub-legacy.
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: support for Jaunty is no more dude
[06:50] <Jordan_U> erik71usaaa: It is no longer getting security updates and is not supported (that includes not getting support from us in #ubuntu).
[06:50] <galamar> Actionparsnip: do you want me to post the apt-get output here?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> erik71usaaa: Why don't you want to use 10.04 or 10.10?
[06:50] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: or at least different directory so if you change password there the file will still not be changed in ubuntu
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> galamar: use the pastie site, then paste the url the page changes to
[06:51] <erik71usaaa> product: NV44 [GeForce 6200 LE]
[06:51] <galamar> http://pastie.org/1533170
[06:51] <Cuberoot> I have a laptop running 10.10. x11 just started (worked before last apt-get dist-upgrade)  barfing w/ rm_init_adapter(0) failed & VM: nv_vm_malloc_pages: failed to allocate contiguous memory in dmesg.  not seeing any useful searches.  any suggestions?
[06:51] <erik71usaaa> does that help
[06:52] <Jordan_U> erik71usaaa: Please install or upgrade to a supported version of Ubuntu.
[06:52] <sacarlson> TpyoKnig: oh you chroot into ubuntu from chromeos,  I'm not sure that will work eather, not sure the kernel is involved in passwd
[06:52] <amit> what is .trash-1000?
[06:52] <erik71usaaa> i asked question
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> galamar: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 3B22AB97AF1CDFA9
[06:53] <Jordan_U> erik71usaaa: And you have recieved an answer, even if it's not one you like.
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: i use one of those in my Asus P1-AH2 Pundit, Works great
[06:53] <erik71usaaa> did u hav to edit
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> galamar: you may want to remove the defunct repos just to tidy up
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: edit what!?
[06:53] <erik71usaaa> yur boot menu
[06:54] <galamar> ActionParsnip: how do i know the bad ones?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> galamar: also natty is supported in #ubuntu+1
[06:54] <Jordan_U> erik71usaaa: No, and I use a supported version of Ubuntu.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> galamar: read the output, your release isn't supported here
[06:54] <erik71usaaa> i understand
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: to achieve what?
[06:55] <erik71usaaa> i neant so i wont have the monitor going blank isue
[06:55] <erik71usaaa> i will install an see wat happens
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> erik71usaaa: no, worked fine with nouveau without the nomodeset and I always force the fb driver for bootup
[06:55] <galamar> ActionParsnip: i asked there and no one answered. there is alot more people here.... thank you for your help!
[06:56] <erik71usaaa> hopefully 9.04 will be forked
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> galamar: be patient then, your release is offtopic here
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> galamar: if you can't resolve issues like GPG keys, you shouldn't be using natty
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> galamar: natty is NOT ready and NOT stable
[06:57] <erik71usaaa> does 10.10 work well raid setup
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> !raid
[06:58] <Jordan_U> galamar: That there are more people here does not change the fact that this channel only supports current stable releases of Ubuntu.
[06:58] <erik71usaaa> since i can put 4 sata hard drives on
[06:59] <galamar> ActionParsnip: i tried installing like 10 different versions of linux (suse, fedora, linspire....) and for some reason natty is the only one the the video would work on through the whole install???
[06:59] <sacarlson> what does the s in the permisions of passwd mean? -rwsr-xr-x 1 root      root        37140 2010-01-27 00:09 passwd ? like sticky?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: setuid
[06:59] <rww> sacarlson: setuid. basically, when you run passwd, it runs under the user that owns it (root) rather than your user.
[06:59] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: setuid?  I'll have to look that up
[07:00] <Cuberoot> sacarlson:  man 2 chmod
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> galamar: your support isn't here dude
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> galamar: when natty is released, it will be
[07:02] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, And I assume support for Ubuntu 10.10 will be dropped at that time? (By the way, just out of curiosity, how might the support then go? Ubuntu (Unity) on this then Ubuntu with GNOME on a separate channel? Just curious)
[07:02] <rww> Starminn: no. non-LTS releases like 10.10 are supported for 18 months after release. So April 2012 in 10.10's case.
[07:03] <Jordan_U> Starminn: I misspoke slightly when I said only "current" stable releases are supported here.
[07:03] <galamar> ActionParsnip: why is it like that just cause im natty but my question still falls well within the range of a released version... point being if i could have installed a released version my question would still have existed.
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> galamar: because it's not released, so there is a channel for the prerelease
[07:04] <Starminn> Jordan_U, rww: Ah, alright. So 18 months is the support term for non-LTS? :) Gotcha.
[07:05] <dragonkeeper> is there any way i can capture a desktop screen and make it a video device so i can broadcast it as a webcam ?
[07:05] <nixjr> ive created a symlink but its all red liek theres an error, is there a log that wil show what the symlink is borken?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: red links are broken
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: if you run@:  file /path/to/linkfilename
[07:06] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, is there a way to tlel why its borken?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: see above
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[07:07] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, it just says "broken symbolic link to" and the locations of the file and link
[07:07] <nixjr> any more detailed errors?
[07:08] <rww> nixjr: it's a pretty straightforward error. You made a link to a destination that doesn't exist.
[07:08] <nixjr> the destination exists
[07:08] <rww> nixjr: your filesystem disagrees.
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: yes, that file or folder doesn't exist
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: i'd delete the link, then recreate it (use tab to autocomplete the folders and filenames)
[07:11] <Cuberoot> ln -sf /path/to/file/that/exists /path/to/brokenlink
[07:11] <nixjr> do the permissions on the parent directories of the one your trying to link to matter, or onyl the permissions of the specific one youre linking to?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: or: cd /path/to/where/you/want/; ln -s /path/to/thing/to/link/to
[07:12] <Cuberoot> ln(1) doesn't even bother checking the permissions of existence (as you found out) of the thing that's linked /to/
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: the thing linked to permissions are moot, as long as you have or can get write access to where you are creating the link you are fine
[07:13] <rww> nixjr: ah. If your user can't read the directory that the link destination is in, it would show as broken.
[07:13] <Cuberoot> ln(1) must be able to write to the directory in which you are creating the symlink itself.  (the from part)
[07:13] <rww> s/read/navigate/
[07:13] <coconutz>  what is the gems thing i see it all the time
[07:13] <coconutz> ?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: if you use tab to complete the folders and such you will have fewer issues, remember, case is important
[07:14] <nixjr> yeah when i tried to create it with tab, i noticed it wasnt auto completing a directory i know exists, knew it had to be permissions
[07:14] <vosh> hi, i need some help on ubuntu
[07:15] <vosh> is this the right channel?
[07:15] <Starminn> You know the little speaker icon in the panel that you can control your currently playing music from? How do I remove Rhythmbox from that? (10.10)
[07:15] <Starminn> vosh, yep. Go ahead and ask.
[07:16] <sacarlson> coconutz: well it could be what you should have got your girl friend when you proposed to mary her or could also be the ruby package manager similar to synaptic or apt-get in ubuntu
[07:16] <nixjr> ill need ot set the permissions of another user's home directory to 755 i think, is it dangerous to have a home directory with those permissions?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> coconutz: could be emerald too, the Window manager
[07:16] <vosh> Im new to linux, im trying to install qt on ubuntu, i have the .bin file on a cd. i tried ./ to execute it
[07:17] <vosh> but says don't have permission
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: yes as it allows anyone with any sort of access to get at the data
[07:17] <vosh> tried to copy bin file ti /mnt
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> vosh: is the file marked executable?
[07:17] <vosh> i ran chmod +xwr
[07:17] <vosh> but says change to read only
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> vosh: why +w ?
[07:18] <vosh> dunno hehe
[07:18] <vosh> write
[07:18] <vosh> because, oh shouldnt have done that
[07:19] <vosh> anyway chmod fails only per mode or totally
[07:19] <vosh> ?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> vosh: yes I know it's write but why set it on an installer?
[07:20] <vosh> yes shouldn't have done that
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> vosh: try: chod 500 ./filename.bin; ./filename.bin
[07:20] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, would 740 be safer?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: how is it safer, the owner needs execute rights and thts it. Fewer access rights is safer than more
[07:20] <dfnv> Quick question: With schroot what do I need to do to ensure that I can delete the chroot without blasting my /home also?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> nixjr: so how do you get safer from more users having access?
[07:20] <vosh> chod u  mean chmod?
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> vosh: typo
[07:21] <vosh> just making sure
[07:21] <Error404NotFound> most of my ram is wasted in cache: http://pastebin.com/SzcjkmUZ while no swap is used, this makes CPU to be in waiting state for 99% of the time and load goes above 2. vm.swapiness is set to 60 right now.
[07:21] <vosh> because linux commands are combination of all alphabet
[07:21] <kthakore> When I plugin my iphone to my ubuntu 10.04 I don't see it pop up.
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> vosh: just give the owner read and execute access then read the install instructions, you may need to just run the program with sudo
[07:22] <vosh> whats the number 500, u know i want also learn linux
[07:22] <nixjr> ActionParsnip, well there are only 5 users on this box, and i know them all in real life, im trying to give them access to each others documents directory, but i dont want ot open the flood gates either
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> vosh: its user read + execute and everyone else, no access
[07:22] <kthakore> lsusb shows the device pluged in
[07:22] <Starminn> vosh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[07:23] <genosis> help needed. some question about adding custom .desktop file for xsessions.
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> vosh: I suggest you read the link Starminn gave, you should know about permissions before you start throwing chmod around the place
[07:23] <vosh> im trying to open link, heh, i have local net problem
[07:24] <sacarlson> vosh: you originaly said you want to install qt,  what is qt app?  sure we don't have a copy in the repository to be installed with synaptic or apt-get ?
[07:24] <vosh> sure u have
[07:25] <vosh> but im low on net bandwidth, and i already have the bin, so going to avoid downloading again
[07:26] <jtannenbaum> do changes to /etc/hosts take effect immediately?
[07:26] <genosis> some one can answer my question? : join #abctalk
[07:26] <sacarlson> vosh: well installing this that way have a tendancy to break other apps that might depend on them
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> vosh: thats fine, just mark it as executable, then run it with sudo. It should do its thing
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: yes
[07:27] <jtannenbaum> thanks
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: you can test with dig
[07:27] <Temar1> hi
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: dig hostname    run that and the lookup time should be 0ms
[07:28] <jtannenbaum> didn't work
[07:28] <genosis> err. anyone? help me abit
[07:28] <vosh> I have been told that dl from repo is better, but im using linux because I want more flexibility
[07:28] <jtannenbaum> ActionParsnip: my /etc/hosts http://pastebin.com/28CEQkF5
[07:28] <Temar> hi
[07:28] <genosis> :)
[07:29] <Temar> i been trying to setup my server for raid 1 (live running server)
[07:29] <jtannenbaum> dig reddit.com gives results
[07:29] <Temar> do i require a seperate partition for /boot/ ?
[07:29] <AbhijiT> Temar, not compulsory. but it improves security.
[07:30] <Temar> i was following instruction best as i can and when i tried reboot i got an error
[07:30] <_numbers> i need to resize my swap space from 333mb to 1gb. whats the easiest way to do that?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: thats empty
[07:30] <Temar> somit like GrUB: Selected Disk Does not Exist
[07:31] <jtannenbaum> don't really understand
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> _numbers:  use a live cd and gparted. (or the gparted live cd) and resize the partitions.
[07:32] <Temar> would he only need to if he has to resize main partition for it
[07:33] <red2kic> jtannenbaum: Why is there 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 and you wish to block reddit, right?
[07:33] <jtannenbaum> those first two lines where there to start wtih
[07:33] <jtannenbaum> with*
[07:34] <jtannenbaum> and yes I'd like to try that
[07:34] <red2kic> jtannenbaum: An example... 127.0.0.1	www.digg.com (newline) 127.0.0.1	digg.com
[07:34] <vosh> i should complain here that its too anoying when ubuntu goes online to download packages, I want to work with my PC completely offline
[07:34] <red2kic> jtannenbaum: You should have two, one for www, one for none.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> vosh:  then you are going to have a hard time keeping things up to date and secure.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> vosh:  windows has gotten to where it does the same thing for a great many programs to install.
[07:35] <_numbers> thx Dr_Willis
[07:35] <zarus> I was wondering, how do I install Matlab from an ISO? I broke my disc, but I still have its image on a drive.
[07:36] <zarus> Are there any good image mounting utilities?
[07:36] <red2kic> jtannenbaum: It might be a good idea to install local webserver such as lighttpd or whatever. Make a nice little static index.html so you know it's null. (it just looks cleaner than blank page). :)
[07:36] <zarus> Like Daemontools?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> zarus:  you can mount an iso with the mount command
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> zarus:  no need for  gimmicky tools like deamontools
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[07:36] <zarus> Thank you.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> Theres some tool in the repos that gives you a front end/context menu item  for isos to mount them. but i dont recall its name
[07:38] <vosh> Dr_Willis: I mean i want to work offline when i want and go online when i want
[07:38] <rww> gmountiso
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> vosh:  turn off networking then I guess.
[07:39] <ravindra> quit
[07:39] <dragonkeeper> is there any way i can capture a desktop screen and make it a video device so i can broadcast it as a webcam ?
[07:39] <Cuberoot> peace, y'all.
[07:39] <Starminn> In 10.10, there's the little speaker icon where you can control your sound/music and such from. I have uninstalled Rhythmbox and am using something else, although how might I make Rhythmbox disappear from that menu as well?
[07:40] <Starminn> dragonkeeper: You mean take a live feed of your desktop?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  you sure rythmbox is closed? it should only appear there when its running
[07:40] <dragonkeeper> Starminn  yes
[07:41] <sometux> I wrote a shell script that accept text strings as input. what I need now is how to redirect a file to the script without modifying the script I need to figure out a solution?
[07:41] <Starminn> dragonkeeper, I don't know of any applications (I'd be the last person to ask), but just trying to clarify that. Next time just ask your question in plain English. :) Someone may be able to help, just not me. Sorry.
[07:41] <Starminn> Dr_Willis, Yep. It's removed from my system so I assure you it's closed. :)
[07:43] <sometux> It seems using "<" to redirect the file doesn't work
[07:44] <red2kic> sometux: Backup the script. Modify the script to accept files. That's the way.
[07:44] <red2kic> Use $1
[07:45] <sometux> red2kic: the question is "Is there a way to redirect the input from a file using for example <"?
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  thats not always the case. :) but Ive not ran the app in ages. it seems like theres a lauincher item in the volume control for it. never noticed it befor.
[07:45] <febi> hai
[07:46] <Jordan_U> sometux: What happens when you try to use '<'? Can you pastebin the script?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  i was thinking theres a setting IN rythmbox to make it not show.  but if you removed it.. that may be hard to set now.
[07:46] <febi> hai
[07:46] <Starminn> Dr_Willis, Yeah, I'm running Banshee now and have been for awhile, just neglected to remove Rhythmbox. In Banshee I know there's an option for it (I know what you're talking about) so it looks like I'll just have to reinstall Rhythmbox. :) Fair enough, haha. Great idea, never would have thought of it without you. I'll let you know how it goes.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  i dont see the setting in Rythmbox.. I seem to recall some bug report on   this ages ago.
[07:47] <vickie> I keep getting a error when I try and update my system
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  supposuibly all apps are supposed to ahve such a setting.. but the default ubuntu one dosent :)
[07:47] <civixier> Hi. I am learning C++ and I have all my files on a USB-stick formatted with NTFS. When I am trying to execute a.out on it it wont let me. When I am trying to chmod 777 the h€ll out of it it wont do the changes. Is it something I should know?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> civixier:  theres ways to mount ntfs with specific options where EVERY file on the drive would be 'executable'
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> civixier:  thats one work around
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g | civixier
[07:48] <civixier> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I will look into that :)
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> civixier:  havuing everyhing executable is often MORE annoying then having everything not be executable.. so its the lesser of 2 evils.
[07:49] <civixier> Dr_Willis: Is it? How come?
[07:49] <ns90> nice
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> civixier:  every text file, every icon, every jpg. all would be 'executable'
[07:50] <sacarlson> civixier: I don't think ntfs has nix permision settings,  they can be set at mount time but not changed later
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> copy them to your home dir.. the permissions stay the same.. you end up with executable junk all over the place. thats not really executable
[07:51] <sacarlson> civixier: sorry don't have nix perms
[07:51] <Starminn> Dr_Willis: Ah, what a pest... Yeah I tried messing with it and there seems no (easy) method for removing it from that menu. Ah, what a shame. Oh well, I can live with it I suppose. :) Thanks for trying though.
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> you 'must' set  the oproper options with ntfs/vfat when mounting them. for the permissions you want.
[07:51] <civixier> Dr_Willis: Ah, I can see the problem with that :)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  i tried disabling the status icon plugin. that dident remove it either. ;) cant even figureout how to close Rythmbox now
[07:52] <Starminn> Dr_Willis, That's what I tried too. (Go to" Music->Quit")
[07:52] <civixier> sacarlson: Ah. Well, the simplest thing would be to copy a.out to somewhere other than the USB and then execute it I suppose.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  personally i find that whole 'embed player controls in the speaker menu' to be a bit.. unintuitive and annoying.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Starminn:  id much rather have a widgit in the panel showing the controls.
[07:52] <sacarlson> civixier: that should work
[07:53] <civixier> sacarlson: Thanks for the new word 'nix'. I'm learning something new every day ;)
[07:54] <vosh> Dr_Willis: I didn't understand what u said about windows, but i want to understand
[07:54] <Starminn> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I agree, much like Windows Media Player does in, well, Windows. I know that in Banshee there's a plugin (perhaps enabled by default I believe?) that places an icon next to your network icon that when you hover over it you see the song name and can fast forward/playback but you can't Play/Pause/Skip... :( Oh well.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> vosh:  windows often requires network connections these days. same as Ubuntu does..
[07:55] <vosh> Dr_Willis: Windows always asks and explains
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> vosh:  yea.. sure it does...
[07:56] <telegraphs> I am not able to send my gpg key to the ubuntu keyserver
[07:56] <vosh> sarcasm?
[07:56] <telegraphs> I do gpg --gen-key then I do gpg --send-key 'My Name' --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com
[07:56] <telegraphs> I get
[07:57] <telegraphs> gpg: 'My Name' not a key ID: skipping
[07:57] <telegraphs> I read two different guides
[07:57] <telegraphs> I tried using My Name (my comment) <my.email@email.com>
[07:57] <telegraphs> and every possible omission and permutation
[07:57] <telegraphs> does anyone have a clue, what is going on?
[07:57] <AbhijiT> !enter | telegraphs
[08:02] <sbshah> !help
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> telegraphs:  you tried a name without spaces in it?
[08:02] <telegraphs> Dr_Willis: is that how it should be/
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> telegraphs:  no idea. it could be the shell is sucking out the quotes. you are using.
[08:03] <telegraphs> it's not
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> ive seen enough issues in the past wth 'this that' or "this that" to have it send up a red flag.
[08:03] <telegraphs> yeah, i tested that theory
[08:04] <telegraphs> this is so weird
[08:04] <telegraphs> i might try doing it on my vps
[08:04] <UbuntuNub> hey guys, i don't know if this is the right place for this question, but I got help here before and the folks were nice, so
[08:04] <Jordan_U> telegraphs: Not a real solution, but I just did it using the launchpad web interface.
[08:04] <UbuntuNub> is there a way to get my windows 7 to boot before my Ubuntu
[08:04] <telegraphs> Jordan_U: yeah.. I'm not even going there.
[08:05] <telegraphs> But thanks!!
[08:05] <UbuntuNub> i have a toshiba qosmio - f60
[08:05] <telegraphs> I need to learn how to use the stupid gpg tool so I can be a real 31337 linux uer
[08:05] <telegraphs> user*
[08:05] <Error404NotFound> I can't get my wireless card working on ubuntu. outputs lshw. lsusb and lspci: http://pastebin.com/xbdKi3bG
[08:07] <Jordan_U> telegraphs: You're supposed to use the key ID, not your name.
[08:07] <telegraphs> Jordan_U: and the key id is?
[08:08] <telegraphs> Jordan_U: http://www.madboa.com/geek/gpg-quickstart/not
[08:08] <telegraphs> In this guide, it says to use the name I enter
[08:08] <Niglop> whenever i try to open this file, i need to have root access, even if i log in as root and move it and then logout of root, i still need root access after that. is there a way i can remove it so i dont need root access to view it/edit it?
[08:08] <bc81> UbuntuNub: you mean you want windows to be the default OS in your grub menu?  see StartUpManager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager
[08:08] <telegraphs> it says that in this guide: http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html too
[08:08] <_jesse_> Niglop: chown it
[08:09] <Niglop> _jesse_: be more specific please
[08:09] <_jesse_> Niglop: change the owner of the file, you can use the chown command
[08:09] <UbuntuNub> thanks bc81, that's what I meant yes
[08:09] <Niglop> _jesse_: whats the exact command?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> I hope 11.04 comes with some better tools for manageing grub2. that area is a bit rough still.
[08:09] <_jesse_> Niglop: chown ?
[08:09] <Niglop> _jesse_: so if i just type chown, it will chown all my files?
[08:09] <_jesse_> Niglop: chown your_username:your_username file
[08:10] <chalcedony> is there some better way to kill an application on ubuntu 10.04 than using top and k > kill the process?
[08:10] <Starminn> chalcedony: I always just use "xkill" personally
[08:10] <_jesse_> Niglop: no, you should specify the file which you wish to change the owner of
[08:10] <chalcedony> starcoder, xkill opera ?
[08:10] <bc81> chalcedony: yea, xkill or killall <process>
[08:10] <vosh> thanks for the help, i will give feedbask after I tried again
[08:10] <telegraphs> chalcedony: xkill then you click
[08:10] <telegraphs> try it
[08:11] <Jordan_U> telegraphs: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Submitting_your_GPG_key_to_a_keyserver
[08:11] <shazzr> chalcedony: pidof instead of top
[08:11] <Starminn> Niglop:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions A little above the bottom is, "Changing the file owner and group"
[08:11] <telegraphs> Jordan_U: =O
[08:11] <Starminn> Niglop: Alternatively you could type, "man chown" to get the manual for it which would get you this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/chown.1.html
[08:11] <telegraphs> Jordan_U: all my docs are wrong! :(
[08:12] <Niglop> can somebody just give me the specific command please
[08:12] <telegraphs> Jordan_U: thanks :) :-)
[08:12] <_jesse_> Niglop: I already did
[08:12] <_jesse_> Niglop: `chown your_username:your_username file_name`
[08:12] <Starminn> Niglop, Read the links I gave you. The first one spells it out for you.
[08:12] <Jordan_U> telegraphs: I think there are multiple things that can be used as an "ID". The primary key ID seems to just be simple to find and use.
[08:12] <chalcedony> ~$ pidof opera - 16933 / ~$ killall 16933 - 16933: no process found
[08:12] <Jordan_U> telegraphs: You're welcome.
[08:13] <|ntegra|> heya
[08:13] <|ntegra|> do you guys have a tv show in the states about computers?
[08:13] <Starminn> chalcedony: Open up (I guess in this case Opera) the program. Now open Terminal and type, "xkill" then just click on the window of the program you wish to kill.
[08:13] <Jordan_U> !ot | |ntegra|
[08:14] <telegraphs> Jordan_U: finally, what a relief.
[08:14] <telegraphs> thanks so much
[08:14] <|ntegra|> sorry about that
[08:14] <Niglop> thanks
[08:14] <chalcedony> telegraphs, that worked, thank you .. i thought it would never die
[08:14] <chalcedony> er Starminn :)
[08:14] <telegraphs> chalcedony: thank the other guy :)
[08:15] <Starminn> chalcedony: Ah, we both told you. No big deal. The credit should be split evenly. :)
[08:15] <telegraphs> chalcedony: also try out ps, pidof, pgrep, kill, and killall
[08:15] <chalcedony> i used killall and kill9 for years.. and then top k ..
[08:16] <_jesse_> chalcedony: pkill can be useful too
[08:16] <juk_> server with only admin account means root and admin, or just root?
[08:16] <drizt> hi. can i get help with ppa?
[08:16] <_jesse_> ah I suppose that is pretty much the same as killall :P
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> drizt:  depends on the prolem.
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> juk_:  i would imagine they mean just 'root'  - since theres no default account called 'admin'  Unless they made one.
[08:17] <drizt> http://fpaste.org/1egd/
[08:18] <chalcedony> _jesse_, i see that, thanks :)
[08:18] <drizt> host not find.
[08:18] <drizt> when i build the same package with pbuilder it is work
[08:18] <juk_> Dr_Willis: ah, im in doubt if i need to enable ptrace operation for bug buddy for more verbose bug reports
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> juk_:  even the ubuntu server installs - i belive have at least a single user account. and not just a 'root' account.
[08:20] <maco> Dr_Willis: yes
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> 'server with only admin account' is a little vague.. it could mean he just has his 'sudo enabled user'
[08:21] <chalcedony> it would seem that Opera is not dead. "It appears another Opera instance is using the same configuration directory because it's lock file is active: /home/llhull/.opera/lock .. eep!
[08:21] <_jesse_> chalcedony: that's different, the process is dead
[08:21] <_jesse_> chalcedony: delete the lock file
[08:22] <_jesse_> obviously since you killed opera it didn't clean it up itself :)
[08:22] <chalcedony> _jesse_, so now what?
[08:22] <Tohuw> if I've added an ldif like so: ldapadd -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -f name_of_file, how would I back out every change that file made?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> remove the lock file chalcedony
[08:22] <_jesse_> chalcedony: just delete the lock file it references
[08:27] <onebitxajax> hi to all i need help
[08:27] <Tohuw> !help | onebitxajax
[08:27] <Niglop> how can I make a button on my taskbar so when i click it, it opens a list of my directories like home videos etc that i can click from there?
[08:27] <onebitxajax> after reboot my screen run with 640x480 resolution and i can't change it can someone help me?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Niglop:  you want to open a file manager to a specfic directory? or some sort of 'shortcut listing' ?
[08:28] <Tohuw> Niglop: right click on panel, add a launcher, nautilus /foo (where /foo is the path you want to open
[08:28] <Niglop> Dr_Willis: shortcut listing
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Niglop:  make a directory with links to the other dirs.. and have file manager open that shortcut-dir is one way i guess.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> nigelb:  you can put your own bookmarks in the places menu item.
[08:31] <Niglop> sorry accidently closed irc
[08:31] <Niglop> i want it to be like a little popup
[08:31] <Niglop> with a few directories
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> nigelb:  you can put your own bookmarks in the places menu item. which is proberly easier.
[08:31] <Tohuw> Niglop: consider leveraging the Bookmarks feature. Or, try topshelf (sudo apt-get topshelf)
[08:32] <Tohuw> Dr_Willis: You're highlighting the wrong user :)
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> or make some 'Shortcuts' directory with links to the other locations you li
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Tohuw:  now  you are making me feel old.. going to have to enlarge the font to 30 points now..
[08:32] <Niglop> tohuw, i dont think i need any programs, i had it before it came with the system. its just a button u click in the taskbar that pops up a tiny meanu with like videos music home etc
[08:32] <Tohuw> Niglop: are you thinking of the "places" menu?
[08:33] <Niglop> yes
[08:33] <Tohuw> Niglop: if you don't have the Places menu at top, right click, add to panel "custom menu bar" or so
[08:34] <Niglop> Tohuw: theres no "custom menu bar" in the list
[08:34] <maco> Niglop: i dont think "custom" is correct. but something about menu bar?
[08:34] <Tohuw> Niglop: what marco said
[08:34] <maco> Niglop: should be able to search for menu
[08:35] <Tohuw> I'm not on a GNOME system atm, so I'm going off memory
[08:35] <noonian> Niglop, click on the menus then edit menues
[08:35] <noonian> right click i mean
[08:35] <Niglop> all i can see is window list, launcher, and the start menu
[08:35] <noonian> do you mean the applications menu? if so right click that and edit menus
[08:36] <Tohuw> Niglop: please run cat /etc/issue and post the output here
[08:36] <JohnDoe234> Hello. I want to install a antivirus software in my ubuntu machine, but I want this so I can scan windows executables. Is this possibile? If so, can you recomend me a good antivirus ?
[08:36] <Tohuw> (In terminal)
[08:36] <Niglop> i think i got it
[08:36] <Niglop> one sec
[08:37] <Tohuw> JohnDoe234: why are you scanning windows executables in a non-windows environment? to test them before you transfer them to a windows machine?
[08:37] <Niglop> got it.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> JohnDoe234:  all the av  software ive seen for linux.. is designed to scan windows files for windows viruses... thats their main feature.
[08:38] <JohnDoe234> Yes, something like that
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Clamav,  and AVG exist for linux. and a few others.
[08:38] <JohnDoe234> Thank you very much
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> they dont normally work like windows av apps do. they dont normally scan 'in real time'  - You tell them to scan a set of files and they do so.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> clamav is in the repos.. avg you have to go get the deb.
[08:39] <Tohuw> JohnDoe234: A much more practical solution would be either A) a Windows-based antivirus solution capable of sandboxing (see http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com/2008/02/what-is-sandbox.html or B) A virtual machine running Windows with some AV software installed. This gives you a higher assurance of its verity in a Windows environment. keep in mind an AV may not detect anything in an installer, that doesn't mean the installer doesn't in
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> I think theres 2 other AV companies out with software for linux.
[08:41] <JohnDoe234> @Dr_Willis: I don't mind if it doesn't scan in real time. More, I don't want an antivirus software that is permanently in my computer's memory
[08:41] <onebitxajax> can someone help?
[08:42] <ApacheOmega> is it even worth installing net beans in UBUNTU?
[08:42] <noonian> ApacheOmega, i have it installed because i had to work on a project set up with netbeans
[08:43] <ApacheOmega> well how come whaen I install it i cant extract
[08:43] <Tohuw> ApacheOmega: that's a subjective question.
[08:43] <noonian> cant extract what?
[08:44] <Tohuw> ApacheOmega: (your first question, that is. your second question is better, but completely undetailed. a lack of details makes it hard to help you :) )
[08:44] <ApacheOmega> OK well I geuss what I'm getting at is the compiler already in UBUNTU just as good as net beans
[08:44] <Tohuw> ApacheOmega: that is a subjective judgement. "just as good" is often case-specific.
[08:45] <noonian> you can get whichever java compiler you want
[08:45] <ApacheOmega> cause i already went around robins been with LAMPP
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> onebitxajax:  state the problem to the channel and see who can help.
[08:49] <shentino> How do I make my text mode consoles 640x400?
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> shentino:  you could enable the framebuffer support. and use the fbset command to change the console res on the fly.
[08:49]  * shentino has already given up the "KMS hates text mode" fight after intel mandated KMS in the X server
[08:49] <shentino> no
[08:50] <shentino> I want to set what it boots up as
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> Then you set the stuff in the grub options.. and hope it works.
[08:50] <shentino> exactly
[08:50] <shentino> where are the grub options? O-O
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> somewhere in the grub2 docs/wiki/forum pages ive seen it mentioned. I dont fioght with the framebuffer any more
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> ive alsays found the fremabuffer enabled console - to be more problems then its worth.
[08:52] <shentino> Well I preferred vga text mode, it was faster
[08:52] <shentino> I had to give it up once intel hard deprecated it by mandating KMS in the x server
[08:52]  * shentino grumbles
[08:53] <Guest16462> how to change awn-notification-daemon area and cloor
[08:53] <Guest16462> under ubuntu 10.10
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> thats not very clear to me.. but I just often use the 'text' option, or disable plymouth. to have a normal 'text' console. like in the old days
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  check the awn- config tool and settings?  proberly somthing in there.
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> awn has so many settings it gets.. overwhelming.
[08:55] <zeta-_> I've been trying to get a write-combining mtrr for X to play with. Found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/314928 but my problem is different. All 8 mtrr's are used by kernel (like /comments/9) -- none left for X :-( Anyone know which driver/bios/? decides it needs all the mtrr's?
[08:56] <Guest16462> DR_Willis i tried there but i got nothing
[08:56] <Guest16462> help me regarding this
[08:58] <sometux> hi guys, what is the OpenSolaris IRC channel?
[08:58] <Slixxor> hey guys
[08:59] <Helbom> sometux: try the ¨name
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  i dont use the app. so really cant help.
[08:59] <Slixxor> im having an awful lot of trouble following any and all instructions on getting my webcam image the right way up. it's upside down and there are alot of posts on this, i'm surprised no ones made a GUI V4L app.
[08:59] <sometux> Helbom: I'm too lazy
[08:59] <KB1JWQ> sometux: #opensolaris if memory serves.
[08:59] <KB1JWQ> sometux: Failing that, /msg alis list *topic*
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> Slixxor:  i recall some webcam tool for linux that works as a 'front end' to the webcam that lets you do all sorts of effects.
[09:00] <Slixxor> Dr_Willis, i think it's dov4l
[09:00] <Dr_Willis>  I used it to turn my webcam Upside down. :)
[09:00] <maco> Dr_Willis: cheese
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> I dont recall the name. but that wasent it.. i got it bookmarked at my http://delicious.com/dr_willis page somewhere.
[09:01] <Slixxor> i've got it installed as command line but it doesnt seem to support image flipping, even though the v4l library does.
[09:01] <shentino> didn't work
[09:01] <Guest16462> any one help me regarding my awn setting of notification
[09:01] <shentino> How do I change the default resolution of vt1-vt6?
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> maco:  this was  an app that sort of 'faked' a webcam.  webcam -> theapp -> the program using the cam. it let you show a video as a webcam, or change audio. or have overlays and other neat tricks.
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  you have checked the AWN homepage and forums and docs?
[09:02] <maco> Dr_Willis: oh
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Here it is  - 'webcam studio' --> http://www.ws4gl.org/
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> I played withit for like a week. :)
[09:03] <Guest16462> i check the home page ... but i didn't get there anything my one ferinds is edit it configuration but he is not telling me how he do tat .... anyone i wil be very help full
[09:03] <Slixxor> i will give it all a miss for now.
[09:04] <Slixxor> maybe the development team will add support for inverting webcam images.
[09:04] <ApacheOmega> OK I'm trying to install net beans and I know I need to install the JDK first but it keeps saying it cant finr the file
[09:04] <pubseed> publicseed.net/thisisatestfile.torrent can you guys seed that? Im trying to test my transmission runscript after the torrent completes. if you can do that, thanks... Im having trouble connecting from my computer 109.158.113.240 to the server at 174.121.250.50 but its not connecting. if you guys can seed that that would be nice.
[09:04] <ApacheOmega> it wont load the file in archive
[09:05] <ApacheOmega> what am I doing wrong
[09:06] <Slixxor> oh and another question what is the dir path for apache? when i access 127.0.0.1 it says "It works" but im not sure where i can load files to.
[09:06] <pubseed> slixxor /var/www
[09:06] <Slixxor> pubseed, nice :D
[09:07] <ApacheOmega> does anybody out there know how to install net beans on UBUNTU
[09:07] <Ambient> hey fellas i want to share media to my xbox. I've installed ushare  and configured it as the instructions say, but it's not working.. i'm on a wireless net work any ideas?
[09:08] <Slixxor> ApacheOmega, i had no dramas using synaptic
[09:08] <Slixxor> make sure you have all repositories selected i think its in universe.
[09:08] <slimshady> @Apache, it's sh on offsite, just download, allow to run and run
[09:08] <Hobbes> Could I install antivirus and torrant software while running off a USB flash "live CD"
[09:09] <ApacheOmega> Slixxor: i can use synoptics? then How come net beans does pop up when I look for it there?
[09:09] <shentino> I'm still trying to change the default virtual console resolution to 640x400 (80x25), can someone help me?
[09:09] <Slixxor> you need to select all available sources from the repositories menu.
[09:09] <Slixxor> which distro?
[09:09] <Slixxor> Maverick?
[09:09]  * shentino is using ubuntu
[09:09]  * shentino is using 10.10
[09:10] <Guest16462> how to install file through terminal
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  install what file exactly?
[09:11] <Guest16462> sh file
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> sh foo.sh
[09:11] <Guest16462> file have name install -sh
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> or chmod +x foo.sh   then ./foo.sh
[09:12] <pedrocr> I'm trying to connect my HTC wildfire android phone to my ubuntu laptop through USB to use the internet
[09:12] <pedrocr> All that I've read says it should just show up as an extra interface in nm
[09:12] <pedrocr> but it never does
[09:13] <Slixxor> ApacheOmega, did you open sysnaptic and go to settings, respositories then tick all boxes worked for me :P
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> pedrocr:  when you plug in the usb cable (on my phone at least) it has a menu that asks how to use the connection. Perhaps you need to select the right option, or in the settings enable the feature.
[09:13] <Slixxor> then search for netbeans
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> pedrocr:  i just use mine over wireless as an access point. :)
[09:13] <pedrocr> Dr_Willis, I've done the setting on the phone side
[09:13] <Slixxor> syanptic is awesome because it satisfies all dependencies.
[09:13] <pedrocr> Dr_Willis, the wi-fi tethering works fine but is power hungry, that's why I was looking at making the usb one work
[09:14] <ApacheOmega> Slixxor: Do I have to save the JDK and THE IDE again b4 I do this?
[09:14] <Ambient> okay got to try something, Quick question i know eth0 is for like an ethernet if i'm using wireless would linux still use that or would it be something else?, and what part of the file system do i find these things in again
[09:14] <Ambient> would it be /dev
[09:14] <Slixxor> ApacheOmega, it will satisfy all dependencies automatically.
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> pedrocr:  i use wifi teathering.. but keep the usb plugged in. for power. but ive had issues with teathering being slow.
[09:15] <pedrocr> Dr_Willis, you mean USB is slow or tethering in general?
[09:16] <ApacheOmega> Slixxor: when you say check all boxes you mean even in all the tabs?
[09:16] <Slixxor> all items in the lists, sourcode and other, multiverse, universe etc.
[09:16] <Slixxor> i just ticked them all.
[09:16] <Slixxor> so i had choice :P
[09:17] <ApacheOmega> Slixxor: OK thanks I'm Trying it now - oh yeah whars choice p?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> pedrocr:  where im at when im teatherng - the network is just slow. :) In a factory.. in the countryside..
[09:18] <Slixxor> im a .NET developer by profession and now my lappys ASUS recovery disk for some reason fails, so I installed Ubuntu :) i used back in version 5 for 6 months. Its come a long way but still a few niggling issues like my webcam.. come on Willis lol
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> pedrocr:  im not using usb for the connection to the pc. just for power.
[09:18] <Hobbes> Could I install antivirus and torrant software while running off a USB flash "live CD"
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  you can. if you have a persistant save file.
[09:18] <Slixxor> ApacheOmega, choice as in.. i ticked all software sources so i had alot of software to choose from.
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  that wouldkeep the changes. but youmay fill up your usb real fast.
[09:18] <Slixxor> Hobbes, no.
[09:18] <ApacheOmega> ok thanks
[09:19] <Guest16462> while installing file i type sh configure its show error at last"configure: error: Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.34 or later."
[09:19] <Slixxor> Hobbes, you're from Brisbane arent you?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  what are you truing to install exactly?
[09:19] <Guest16462> a applet of awn
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  you sure its not wanting you do to a ./configure
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> !find intltool
[09:20] <Slixxor> ApacheOmega, how did you get on?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> !info intltool
[09:20] <Guest16462> thanks i didn't do tat
[09:21] <Guest16462> Dr_willis can i have ur email id for furhter help if u don't mind
[09:21] <pksadiq> Guest16462: he minds
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  you do not need my email.. i live here on irc..
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:22] <pubseed> @Guest16462 Its true! dr_willis is cool :)
[09:22]  * Dr_Willis can even IRC from his cell phone now.
[09:22] <Guest16462> i do it again with ./configure it shows me shame error
[09:22] <Guest16462> ya i agree
[09:22] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis persistant save file? Are you saying it would be easier to just install ubuntu, then get win7, install, then fix the linux boot directory thing?
[09:22] <Ambient> ushare sucks balls
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:22] <Hobbes> Slixxor: brisbane, that sounds british, am I right?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  you can do a 'full' install to a flash drive. or set up a 'live' cd setup with a 'save' file..
[09:23] <Guest16462> ubuntu 10.10
[09:23] <Slixxor> aussie mate.
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  if you are using just a live cd setup with no 'save file' then  your changes will not be saved across reboots.
[09:23] <Slixxor> shrimp, barbies and all that jazz.
[09:23] <ApacheOmega> Slixxor: I keep getting this same message when I try to down load --- The application you chose ("") could not be found.  Check the file name or choose another application. ---- and then it will only let me save the program and then its know where to be found
[09:23] <Hobbes> Save file? it would have to be on a usb flash drive?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  then somthing is very weird.. the version of intltool is 0.41 in 10.10
[09:23] <Slixxor> that seems od.
[09:23] <Guest16462> so any thing can i do
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  yes. thats normally where its at.. the ubuntu usb-disk creator tool lets you generate a save file when youy put the iso on the flash drive
[09:24] <Hobbes> Slixxor: well not that far off then, I mean I'm sure your aware of astralias roots and all
[09:24] <Slixxor> synaptic has always worked for me
[09:24] <Guest16462> how i update it
[09:24] <Mason_> hello i need help
[09:24] <Machtin> so, would it be possible, that something in (k)ubuntu is screwed, so that i witness system freezes randomly? (about two to five times a week)
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Guest16462:  verify your version of that tool. if its correct. file a bug with the AWN plugin guy i guess.
[09:24] <Slixxor> Hobbes, indeed hehe
[09:24] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: I couldn't put this on the hard drive?
[09:25] <Guest16462> how i check version for tat
[09:25] <Mason_> i need to conect a desktop 10.10 ubuntu to a mac os x 10.6 desktop but when i try the internet gos out on both
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  a usb flash drive 'live cd' setup wont look for a save file on the hd.
[09:26] <pksadiq> Guest16462: might be dpkg-query -l | grep intltool
[09:26] <Slixxor> ApacheOmega, not sure how to help matey i'm a GUI developer.. no idea about command line epecially in linux :P i'll leave that to the experts like Dr-Willis
[09:26] <Guest80998> can anyone help me on how to get acquainted with the bash terminal?
[09:27] <zenbuntu> hey Sysi u there
[09:27] <Hobbes> If I put a torrant program on a USB flash drive, running off a 'live CD' usb flashdrive, would it be able to see and manage the download onto a actual HDD?
[09:27] <ApacheOmega> SLixxor - Thanks I'll try to figure this one out
[09:27] <Guest16462> 0.35.0+20060710.1  it shwoing me this version
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> !bash | Guest80998
[09:27] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: what does acquainted means?
[09:27] <zenbuntu> jus install xubuntu
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  'become friends with'
[09:27] <Slixxor> LOL
[09:27] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks
[09:28] <Guest80998> thanks
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  proberly - if you tell the torrent app to do uit.
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  but if you reboot. saves not to the HD will get lost.
[09:29] <Hobbes> Why would it get lost on the HDD?
[09:29] <Mason_> can any1 help.... i need to conect my ubuntu desktop via ethernet cable to my mac but when i do it takes the internet away from my mac... please help :(
[09:30] <Slixxor> Mason_, IP conflict?
[09:30] <Mason_> no
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  saves NOT to the hd will get lost.. is what i daid..
[09:30] <Mason_> a tut would be nice
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> Mason_:  and how are you connecting exactly?
[09:31] <Hobbes> Threaten the computers to split the ethernet cable in half, the true owner will not want to see harm come to the ethernet cable and will offer to give it to the other one
[09:31] <zenbuntu> what version are evry1 runnin?
[09:31] <_Rix> 10.04  here
[09:31] <RishavT> Mason_: Try doing this: right click network manager>>edit connections>>Auto eth0>>IPv4>>set it to automatic (DHCP)
[09:31] <Hobbes> Mason_ that is my wise advise to you
[09:31] <hros> good day - I have problems installing ubunto. I downloaded  10.10, put it on an USB stick with unetbootin, but after the "preparing to install"-screen, I only get the ever-rotating dial and nothing will happen.
[09:31] <daniele> !list
[09:31] <zenbuntu> ubuntu or xu?
[09:31] <_Rix> ubuntu, zenbuntu
[09:31] <hros> in /var/log/messages, I'll see the following lines: Feb  6 13:48:08 ubuntu ubiquity: Backtrace has 14 calls on stack:
[09:31] <hros> Feb  6 13:48:08 ubuntu ubiquity:   14: /lib/libparted.so.0(ped_assert+0x2a) [0xb
[09:32] <Mason_> Hobbes: already did that
[09:32] <hros> ... and so on until
[09:32] <hros> Feb  6 13:48:08 ubuntu ubiquity:   2: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe7) [0x126ce7]
[09:32] <hros> Feb  6 13:48:08 ubuntu ubiquity:   1: parted_server() [0x8049de1]
[09:32] <Hobbes> Mason_ So what happened?
[09:32] <hros> does that mean that the "parted_server" crashed?
[09:32] <Slixxor> Mason_, the problem is on the macsend if an IP has been assigned to the bunt box
[09:32] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis why would the data on the HDD be lost?
[09:32] <Slixxor> Macs end*
[09:33] <Mason_> i have no idea if ip has been assinged
[09:33] <zenbuntu> ok thats what i have on my desktop, however my latop with ubuntu drains batt quick so im debating to install xubuntu or lubuntu any ideas?
[09:33] <Slixxor> i would suggest checking your mac has been configured to share network capabilities or is configured to be the default gateway in the routing table.
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  i said it would NOT be lost if its on the HD..
[09:33] <hros> I've read thru the forums, they give the advice to remove the USB stick - which is impossible, as I'm installing from USB stick
[09:33] <Slixxor> what version of bunt Mason_
[09:33] <hros> (or at least, try to...)
[09:33] <Mason_> 10.10
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  your torrent client may save its cache and .torrent stuff in places not  on the hd however.
[09:33] <Slixxor> cool
[09:34] <zenbuntu> ill be back need to reboot srry
[09:34] <Slixxor> go to System at the top then network tools
[09:34] <Mason_> just got on there less than 30 min ago
[09:34] <Slixxor> check the IP for your ethernet connection from the drop down, not the local loopback
[09:35] <hros> also, I wonder why "partition editing" (parted) would need a server (parted_server) ...
[09:35] <Mason_> were is "network tools"
[09:35] <BelkinUSB> hello, I'm running ubuntu 10.10 on an old box. It runs fine but sometimes I find it unresponsive and have to reset. I'm looking through the logs and i get this file /etc/ddclient.conf, line 8: Invalid Value for keyword 'login' over and over again. What does this mean?
[09:35] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: so in short, install linux, then just fix the boot manager latter when I install windows?
[09:37] <Slixxor> Hobbes, works best to install windows first then bunt that way grub installs both
[09:37] <Mason_> wait foundit
[09:37] <Slixxor> theres a tool for editing OSs in grub called startup manager ithink it's find them then updates grub.conf
[09:38] <Hobbes> slixxor: I need linux to get windows first though
[09:38] <Slixxor> Hobbes, negative
[09:38] <Mason_> wait ip conflic letme change
[09:38] <Slixxor> you need windows on there first.
[09:38] <Mason_> my mac told me :D
[09:38] <LinSteveH> I forget what booting structure is running on ubuntu 10.4.  I know that they no longer use GRUB.  Any help?
[09:39] <pksadiq> jeff_mar: keep quiet
[09:39] <Slixxor> it used to be easy to edit grub in the past but now they have wrapper classes that seem to edit the grub files.
[09:39] <AbhijiT> LinSteveH, grub2
[09:39] <Hobbes> slixxor: I won't have a windows to install without linux
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  im not even sure what your origianl problem is/was any more..you were asking about torrents from a flash drive install..
[09:39] <Slixxor> Hobbes, not sure mate. you need to edit the grub.conf file to include windows in it.
[09:40] <LinSteveH> Hrmmm, where do I find the boot images then?  (i.e. where is the directory?)
[09:40] <Slixxor> it's changed file names now.
[09:40] <Slixxor> i wanted to modify my grub list to be a bit neater.
[09:40] <Slixxor> i couldnt do it :P
[09:41] <AbhijiT> !grub2 | LinSteveH
[09:41] <Hobbes> slixxor or I could just reinstall linux again eh?
[09:41] <LinSteveH> Abhijit: ... and thanks
[09:41] <Slixxor> yep.
[09:42] <Slixxor> thats my fix when i break stuff and end up in a command line... mind you 10.10 has a wicked tool for fixing X server now that usually lets you back into GUI
[09:42] <Hobbes> Slixxor, thats at me right?
[09:42] <Slixxor> sadly if you want to install/change things that dont come from synaptic you tend to break things, which is why they made it.
[09:43] <Slixxor> Hobbes, yes
[09:43] <Tuxist> hu
[09:43] <Tuxist> hi
[09:43] <Tuxist> i have problem with proftpd and tls
[09:43] <Chillance> hey, do you guys got tips on how I can autodelete a file played in vlc?
[09:43] <Hobbes> what do you guys think of xbuntu compared to ubuntu? Some people were just saying how much better it is in another chat
[09:43] <bazhang> Hobbes, please dont poll here
[09:44] <bazhang> !best | Hobbes
[09:44] <Slixxor> Chillance, just watch tube porn sites instead :P that way when you close the browser you dont have D/Ld files on your desktop.
[09:44] <Tuxist> i have configure proftpd with tls and created the crt and key but in can't auth with tls
[09:44] <hros> what's the deal with that parted_server crashing in 10.10 and 10.4 when installing from USB?
[09:44] <Chillance> Slixxor, funny :)
[09:44] <bazhang> Slixxor, keep it family friendly
[09:44] <Slixxor> of course. sorry
[09:44] <Tuxist> i have build proftpd 3.0 without change
[09:44] <Chillance> thing is, I love that I can set vlc to quit after playing a file
[09:45] <shentino> Can someone help me with this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10432528#post10432528
[09:45] <Chillance> would be cool to let it delete it too
[09:45] <Tuxist> so i think the problem is the openssl lib
[09:45] <Slixxor> Chillance, couldnt that also work against you?
[09:45] <Hobbes> Xbuntu is more stable, smoother and faster then ubuntu because of  Xfce
[09:45] <Hobbes> ?
[09:45] <bazhang> Hobbes, I asked you not to poll here
[09:46] <shentino> Hobbes:  You were already instructed not to poll here
[09:46] <Slixxor> the X display is very stable from way back in freeBSD days
[09:46] <Chillance> Slixxor, sure, but it should be smart and just delete after its finished..
[09:46] <HumanBlade> hi all... best chan for noob q's?
[09:46] <bazhang> Hobbes, #ubuntu-bots or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <r_a_ven> any gurus here for fixing sound issues on ubuntu laptop?
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  i dont find xfce that much faster/stable.
[09:47] <r_a_ven> helping me fix, i.e.
[09:47] <Slixxor> HumanBlade, Dr_Willis has a site. it got common faqs on it etc.
[09:47] <KB1JWQ> !sound | r_a_ven
[09:47] <Slixxor> Dr_Willis, ....
[09:47] <r_a_ven> thanks !!
[09:47] <r_a_ven> !sound
[09:47] <HumanBlade> @Slixxor, actually have a specific problem, hoped to get some hand holding in a chan
[09:48] <Slixxor> HumanBlade, try searching google with "ubuntu" at the start of the problem.
[09:48] <r_a_ven> i have actually spent 5 months trying to fix sound
[09:48] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: Much more? So you find it slightly more so? Please break down the comparison
[09:48] <Slixxor> thats what i do, but when people make file references without file paths i get frustrated,'
[09:48] <bazhang> Hobbes, please stop
[09:48] <r_a_ven> it has not been working after 9.04
[09:48] <HumanBlade> @Slixxor, tried 45 mins of that, and came here :)
[09:48] <r_a_ven> i will go thru these links too
[09:48] <r_a_ven> thanks
[09:48] <bazhang> Slixxor, please dont recommend google first here
[09:48] <Slixxor> i.e it took me 30 minutes to find the path of uvc_video.c
[09:49] <Slixxor> bazhang, sorry mate. it works for me :)
[09:49] <Hobbes> bazhang:stop what?
[09:49] <Slixxor> Hobbes, hes saying dont ask for comparisons on stuff.. or ask peples opinions
[09:49] <bazhang> Hobbes, this is not the channel for polling. I have asked you three times now.
[09:50] <Tuxist> http://pastebin.com/qPjAtdzk
[09:50] <eichi> hello. I get an ubuntu live cd running on an laptop. but install allways crashed with reading errors. can i install ubuntu on the harddisc via usb from other system (usb-sata converter) from another linux system? (not ubuntu)
[09:50] <shentino> Hobbes:  Comparisons between different versions of ubuntu are off topic here, please stop
[09:50] <Hobbes> I am not polling for curiousity, I am trying to determine which one to use
[09:50] <HumanBlade> yeah, i have a really weird problem. can mount network shares on gui but mount says: "mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system"
[09:50] <Hobbes> From people who have experience
[09:50] <bazhang> Hobbes, then do as I suggest. This is not the channel for it
[09:50] <Slixxor> eichi, i had similar errors installing ubuntu when i selected "do updates" at initial install.
[09:50] <HumanBlade> so kinda wondering if there was a general help channel
[09:51] <hros> echi, I'm afraid that installing from usb doesn work...
[09:51] <Tuxist> http://pastebin.com/54vWz6W4
[09:51] <hros> eichi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1460278
[09:51] <eichi> hros: this laptop is to old. cant boot from usb :(
[09:51] <Slixxor> bazhang, feel like helping with with my UVC video upside webcam issue?? i'll send you an E-Cookie
[09:51] <hros> echi, ah.
[09:51] <pksadiq> eichi: try plop boot manager , http://plop.at I think
[09:53] <hros> in our company, I've stopped attempting to install ubuntu and installed gentoo instead.
[09:53] <eichi> pksadiq: thanks, i will try
[09:53] <droopal> I have a problem with my netbook. For some reason, I am not able to plug and play usb sticks or my external dvd player. It says unable to mount, not authorised. I have tried going into Systen, Administration, Users and Groups. It wont allow me to click on the Advanced Settings, it does nothing. Plus I have tried opening it via the terminal using sudo users-admin that opens the box, but it just hangs and does nothing. I am tryin g to do a fresh insta
[09:53] <droopal> ll and am running out of options. Can somebody help please?
[09:54] <Slixxor> droopal, i'd do that too :) OS issues.
[09:54] <psycho_oreos> fresh installs of which distro and version?
[09:54] <droopal> Ubuntu 10.10
[09:55] <eichi> pksadiq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Alternative%20methods why is requirement, that windows run on this system?
[09:55] <Slixxor> droopal, i was aware of issues long ago with storage devices being NTFS locked i.e not safely removed from windows not working properly, but im sure the bunt team has fixed this since.
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> sounds unusual to me, either it could be something wrong with gnome-keyring or by you not being under sudoers?
[09:56] <scipy> how can I see my Win7 partition content from Ubuntu?
[09:56] <Slixxor> scipy, it should automount from install.
[09:56] <Slixxor> or you'll have to mount the partition.
[09:57] <scipy> the other partition is automounted
[09:57] <droopal> how can I get around it. I cant even watch videos anymore. If I
[09:57] <Slixxor> then you should be able to browse it.
[09:58] <psycho_oreos> droopal, its been like this ever since from the fresh install?
[09:58] <pksadiq> eichi: could you please say what is in the link, sorry I don't have access to a full browser
[09:58] <scipy> from win7, I knew that I have two ntfs partitions: the one with win7 and another named Data. From Ubuntu I can access only Data partition content
[09:58] <Slixxor> if you know what device it is in /dev then you can use the command umount -a /dev/whatever
[09:58] <Slixxor> i think it's -a
[09:58] <Slixxor> scipy is grub installed on the MBR?
[09:59] <hros> umount -a?
[09:59] <nabda> ich suche den ubuntu-offtopic kanal
[09:59] <Slixxor> nabda, i dont speak german mate this is an Australian channel :P
[09:59] <nabda> sorry
[10:00] <Slixxor> no worries whats the drama?
[10:00] <scipy> Slixxor: I don;t know the answer to your question. When I boot I have 2 options: win7 and Ubuntu. If I choose ubuntu i get another 6 options to choose from in order to boot into ubuntu
[10:00] <jonsaint> hi all. im trying to run some software which came on my phone which allows me to connect my phone to the pc but wine has blocked it and says something about the 'executable bit'. im a new user to ubuntu and i dont know what to do next!
[10:00] <Slixxor> scipy, that means by default grub has picked up bunt, the bunt recovery partition and your windows partition.
[10:00] <scipy> how can i see what /dev i have?
[10:00] <Slixxor> you shouldnt have more.
[10:01] <Slixxor> when you boot look at your windows partition.
[10:01] <Slixxor> in the grub list.
[10:01] <FluxD> scipy, ls /dev ?
[10:01] <red> Any idea why I can't see any filenames on the desktop?
[10:01] <Slixxor> it will say /SDA1
[10:01] <Slixxor> or something along those lines
[10:01] <red> The actual file icons are there, but they are missing text from underneath.
[10:01] <scipy> ty
[10:01] <droopal> psycho_oreos: hi I updated to 10.10 via update manager, and its since then I've been locked out. Which is why I wanted to do a fresh install. On my laptop I had same problem, I was able to access the sudo user-admin even though I was locked out, I managed to get in there, with the netbook, I cant.
[10:01] <hros> are there any options which are accepted by parted_server? it doesn't even come w/ a man-page :-/
[10:02] <FluxD> red, try making a new file/folder and see ?
[10:02] <red> what?
[10:02] <hros> and "parted_server -h" or "parted_server --help" puts itself in the background
[10:02] <red> the files have names, but they are not displayed
[10:02] <psycho_oreos> droopal, and how do you define as fresh install? wiped partition clean before installing ubuntu on it?
[10:02] <red> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2188345/iconnames.png
[10:02] <droopal> yes
[10:03] <Slixxor> *sigh* well i've decided to take apart my laptop and rotate my webcam instead and remount it to the top of the LCD to fix my inverted webcam issue, thats an easier fix for me then install subversions and updating drivers etc.
[10:03] <droopal> but I can do anything, because it wont let me use a usb stick or the dvd rewriter
[10:03] <FluxD> red, the icons are the ones on the left?
[10:04] <red> yes
[10:04] <droopal> before the upgrade both worked
[10:04] <psycho_oreos> droopal, are you able to gain root via sudo under terminal?
[10:04] <droopal> yes
[10:04] <red> fluxd: I remember my GF's ubuntu laptop having the same bug in 9.04, but I couldnt be arsed to fix it for her. Now on this 64bit 10.10 on my main machine and it drives me crazy :D
[10:05] <FluxD> red,what happens if you make a new folder on desktop?
[10:05] <jonsaint> anyone about to help?@
[10:05] <red> fluxd: look at the top left corner
[10:06] <ysis> Hi, I'm on Xubuntu 10.10 and have a floppy related issue: I have a line "/dev/fd0 /media/floppy vfat utf8,nosuid,user,noauto 0 0" in my /etc/fstab and the floppy is nicely mounted when I click on the desktop icon and the permissions of /media/floppy change to that of the mounting user. Now I also have a floppy disk entry in Thunar's sidebar and the Places menu in the panel. But the desktop icon and the other two options seems to be unrelated s
[10:08] <alle> hi everyone
[10:08] <alle> i have a prob
[10:08] <droopal> Nobody have any ideas?
[10:08] <red> fluxd: I know what causes it now
[10:09] <red> think i can sort it out by changing nautilus desktop icon text size from smallest to anything else
[10:09] <FluxD> red, nice what was it?
[10:09] <alle> i m usiing ubuntu 10.04 and my network is disconnected by itself.
[10:09] <red> with gconf editor that is
[10:09] <red> that did it heh
[10:09] <Villalinux> anybody know a channel like this in spanish, my english is no very good, thanks
[10:09] <alle> its working in windows but
[10:10] <hros> ah, okay, here is the answer to my question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/551707
[10:10] <FluxD> red, the problem was ?
[10:10] <pksadiq> !spanish | Villalinux
[10:10] <red> fluxd: Nautilus Icon View default setting as "smallest" makes desktop text disappear.
[10:10] <alle> anybody know how i can fix it?
[10:10] <FluxD> red, ah who knew
[10:10] <hros> it has been reported in march 2010.... now, in february 2011, the problem still is there
[10:10] <red> Checked my girlfriends laptop and now text is showing there as well
[10:11] <hros> "lucid installer hangs after parted_server crashes"
[10:11] <Villalinux> thank ubottu
[10:11] <FluxD> alle, what kind of network?
[10:11] <alle> cable
[10:11] <ysis> Villalux: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#spanish
[10:12] <hros> there's a follow'up on month later: lopst wrote on 2010-04-15: When installing from USB, the installer does not work. This happens with the desktop vesion, alternative and minimal.
[10:12] <hros> I wonder if this will ever get fixed ...
[10:12] <alle> i can't access net now, it has a red mark on its icon in notification area
[10:12] <acidflash> i have a program, which one startup cannot get assigned to it more then 1024 file descriptors, but when i do service whatever restart after the startup, it gets assigned the 1M that its supposed to, how can i make it so that it gets assigned the 1M at startup, using ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10, same on both
[10:12] <Villalinux> thanks ysis
[10:13] <alle> fluxD
[10:13] <droopal> phsycho_oreos:I did answer your post, think it got lost, I can access root via the terminal, is there any way I can get to do a fresh install?
[10:13] <hros> october 2010 (still several month later): Thag wrote on 2010-10-15: Yes, definitely still a problem. The 10.04.1 ISO still has the same problem.
[10:13] <FluxD> alle, it just disconnects from cable?
[10:13] <root_> yep
[10:14] <alle> no its working in windows but in ubuntu it says disconnected
[10:14] <eichi> can i change passwort later, if i encrypt my userdata from ubuntu automatically?
[10:15] <gracekelly> WEEEOH|| Xd
[10:15] <FluxD> alle, 10.10 ?
[10:15] <alle> i tried stoping and restarting network service but it didn't helped
[10:15] <alle> 10.04
[10:16] <staw> bijour
[10:16] <FluxD> I am not too sure tbh, you could upgrade and see
[10:16] <droopal> Do you think there might be a fix with this problem sometime? Its very frustrating not being able to use uSB's or my dvd player.
[10:17] <alle> upgrade to 10.10?
[10:17] <scipy> wow
[10:17] <scipy> it worked
[10:17] <gracekelly> hola!!
[10:17] <scipy> many thanks
[10:17] <droopal> If nobody knows on here, can somebody point me in the direction of somewhere that might be able to help?
[10:17] <gracekelly> alguien entiende de AMAYA?? please!!
[10:18] <FluxD> !spanish | gracekelly
[10:18] <gracekelly> yes, im spanish
[10:18] <droopal> ok, thanks.
[10:19] <alle> fluxd, i don't like 10.10. you know how can i reconfigure it?
[10:20] <FluxD> alle, I would help if I knew but I dont, as a last resort try making a new account and see if it works
[10:20] <alle> i tried that thanx
[10:20] <gracekelly> FluxD, could i resolve one cuestion?? please...    how i can show fixed text withouth the fixed propierty in Amaya?
[10:20] <gracekelly> with using position:fixed
[10:21] <toman> hello there. I'm kinda new to ubuntu and i can't install my video drivers. I'm using ubuntu 10.10 x64 and the video is ati x550
[10:21] <toman> can anyone help me ?
[10:21] <alle> anybody else know how can i reconfigure network
[10:21] <FluxD> gracekelly, I dont use amaya so I dont know
[10:22] <gracekelly> how i can show fixed text in Amaya using position:static??
[10:22] <FluxD> toman, system > preferences > adminstration > additional drivers ?
[10:23] <gracekelly> how i can show fixed text in Amaya using position:static ?? UBUNTU
[10:24] <FluxD> gracekelly, ask the amaya help channel
[10:24] <gracekelly> ok, where is these chanel, please??
[10:24] <miho_aka> hello world !
[10:24] <sveinse> Do you know of a good book which talks about the debian package system?
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> sveinse:  theres numerous apt docs/manuals/guides online
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[10:25] <FluxD> gracekelly, http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/Mailing.html
[10:25] <gracekelly> do you kown anybody who uses amaya??
[10:26]  * Dr_Willis dosent even know what Amaya is.
[10:26] <FluxD> gracekelly, A public irc channel #amaya is available on irc.w3.org (port 6665).
[10:26] <toman> fluid, "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[10:26] <toman> ops
[10:26] <toman> FluxD , "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[10:26] <FluxD> toman, What driver do you need?
[10:27] <Raymond> Hi All, I'm trying to install drivers for my Epson CX3900 printer/scanner, but can't find one. The Avasys site states that they do, but they don't. The closest is a CX3810 which lets me print, but not scan. Any ideas?
[10:27] <gracekelly> thanks you FluxD   :)!!
[10:27] <FluxD> np
[10:27] <gracekelly> xD
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Raymond:  check the  'sane.org' site to see if it mentions the scanner part of the device. t may have some info.
[10:27] <toman> well i need a driver for my video (ati radeon x550)
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> !sane
[10:27] <Raymond> Dr_Willis: Ok..
[10:28] <hros> what's that parted_server supposed to do anyway? If I manually partition & format my disk, how can I skip the "parted_server" step in the installation?
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> Raymond:  the combos ive had. always basically work as 2 seperate devices
[10:28] <toman> FluxD,  i found a driver on the official website, but it's *.run format and i have no idea how to install it :D
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> hros:  i thought the parted_server thing was a backend to the parted front end.
[10:29] <Raymond> Dr_Willis: That does not surprise me, thanks.
[10:29] <alle> anybody know how can i reconfigure network
[10:29] <FluxD> toman, download the driver, goto terminal, chmod +x filename.run, then ./filename.run
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> toman:  using the .run drivers from the ati site.. often.. causes issues. its best to use the package manager drivers. if they support your card.
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> toman:  so dont be too suprised if that .run dosent work properly
[10:30] <hros> hm
[10:30] <toman> Dr_Willis, i cant download the drivers from package manager ...
[10:30] <Raymond> Dr_Willis: sane.org is a mental illness website and !sane.org does not exist
[10:31] <argyle> Running Ubuntu 10.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6000D. After testing WEp cracking with aircrack-ng, my wireless card is no longer detected from within the network manager dropdown menu, which would usually show available wireless networks. I ran lspci, which shows Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] is present. Thinking it's disabled, I ran rfkill list, but it outputs nothing. Any help?
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> sane = scanner access made easy
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> http://www.sane-project.org/
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> google is handy :)
[10:33] <Raymond> Dr_Willis: I just found it the same way LOL
[10:33] <jonsaint> hi all. anyone about to help?????
[10:33] <vosh> yes
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> jonsaint:  state the problem. see who can help
[10:33] <hros> dr_willis, I think it's a bit strange to use a seperate server-process for that.
[10:34] <hros> anyway, that wont help me.
[10:34] <drt42982934> Hi, i have a bunch of files ending with .flv.mp3 , which i need to rename so they end in just .mp3 , what is the command i should use?
[10:34] <jonsaint> im trying to install software which came built in to my phone which is an exe file so i can link my phone to my pc but wine has blocked it and something popped up about the 'executable bit'. i dont know what to do next as im a new ubuntu user.
[10:35] <hros> for i in *.flv; do j=`basename $i .flv"; mv $i $j; done
[10:35] <pksadiq> jonsaint: right click on the file and check wether it is marked as executable
[10:35] <toman> FluxD,  http://www.pasteall.org/18861
[10:35] <toman> that's what i get when i try to install it ...
[10:35] <hros> ups, sorry, that's wrong
[10:35] <minimec> jonsaint: chmod +x yourfile.exe
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> hros:  im not even sure what your orignal problem is...
[10:35] <FluxD> toman, your install is 32 or 64 bit?
[10:35] <argyle> Anyone able to offer assistance with my above wireless problem?
[10:35] <jonsaint> chmod???????
[10:36] <hros> for i in *.flv.mp3; do j=`basename *.flv.mp3`; mv $i $j.mp3; done
[10:36] <hros> but try the "mv" first with "echo mv $i $j.mp3" to check if there's an error in that line
[10:36] <FluxD> jonsaint, chmod +x filename
[10:36] <toman> 64 buts
[10:36] <toman> 64 bits&
[10:36] <jonsaint> i got no such directory
[10:36] <toman> FluxD, 64 bits
[10:36] <Guest36120> Hi. Where can I find gnome-shell's ppa?
[10:37] <FluxD> jonsaint, right click file permissions make file executable
[10:37] <minimec> jonsaint: Right click on the exe file in the filemanager. under <properties<permissions ->'allow execution'
[10:37] <FluxD> Guest36120, try launchpad
[10:37] <Doctor> WHO Eleison
[10:37] <sindks> Hi, I tried installing ubuntu on an external drive (computer also runs windows off the main drive) and now goes right to grub rescue when I start my computer - anyone around that can help me fix this?
[10:37] <hros> dr_willis, I cannot install 10.10 (and 10.04) from the USB-stick, because parted_server seems to crash. in /var/log/syslog, I find
[10:37] <Guest36120> FluxD, Looking at it right now.
[10:37] <hros> dr_willis, Feb  6 14:17:46 ubuntu ubiquity: Backtrace has 14 calls on stack:
[10:37] <hros> dr_willis, Feb  6 14:17:46 ubuntu ubiquity:   14: /lib/libparted.so.0(ped_assert+0x2a) [0x8
[10:37] <hros> ea87a]
[10:37] <argyle> Running Ubuntu 10.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6000D. After testing WEp cracking with aircrack-ng, my wireless card is no longer detected from within the network manager dropdown menu, which would usually show available wireless networks. I ran lspci, which shows Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] is present. Thinking it's disabled, I ran rfkill list, but it outputs nothing. Any help?
[10:38] <hros> dr_willis, .... until Feb  6 14:17:46 ubuntu ubiquity:   1: parted_server() [0x8049de1]
[10:38] <jonsaint> Sorry, could not change the permissions of "setup.exe": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system
[10:38] <FluxD> argyle, maybe its in/out of monitor mode ?
[10:38] <hros> dr_willis, the installer will display an ever-rotating dial in the "preparing to install" window/screen
[10:38] <Guest36120> FluxD, there is https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/gnome-shell but I don't knew if it's "OK". Can you tell?
[10:38] <droopal> Hi can I ask the question again, I am trying to do a fresh install, I am running Ubuntu nut am having problems with usb's and my external dvd player/rewriter.....getting an error saying cant mount dont have authorisation. I want to do a complete clean install, but cant. Can any body either help, or possibly point me in another direction to get help. Thank you.
[10:38] <pksadiq> jonsaint: copy that file to Desktop and then change the permission
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> jonsaint:  you can use wine from the command line. and run a exe that way.. 'wine /media/CDROM/setup.exe'   and  get around that quirk.
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> jonsaint:  or under applications -> wine -> Uninstall wine software -  Theres a 'install' button.
[10:39] <argyle> FluxD: How can I verify and/or change that?
[10:39] <FluxD> jonsaint, to run exe files you need wine goto winehq.org and read
[10:40] <FluxD> argyle, I forget but wep cracking turns on monitor or turns off monitor, google your card and see
[10:40] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: how to rename a bulk of *.html files to *.htm file?
[10:40] <jonsaint> i dragged it to desktop and checked box but when i double click all it does is hang for a few seconds and then nothing happens
[10:41] <hros> for i in *.html; j=`basename $i .html`; mv $i $j.htm; done
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  theres dozens of ways to do that.  a google search will find proberly 10+ bash examples of doing it.
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  you could also use find, or i think the 'rename' command.
[10:41] <pksadiq> jonsaint: in Terminal (CTRL +ALT + T) and type wine ~/Desktop/setup.exe
[10:42] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: does rename can rename many files at a time?
[10:42] <jonsaint> tried that. again hung for a few seconds before bringing back up the prompt
[10:43] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: let me check  the man page
[10:43] <serialized> Hi all, is it normal for a nvidia pcie card to jump to different pages -> NVRM: Xid (0001:00)
[10:43] <serialized> ?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  good idea. I tend to just use 'qmv' for my fancy renameing needs
[10:44] <iratech> hello room
[10:45] <argyle> FluxD: Soapparently you can change the wireless iterface to monitor mode with iwconfig. However, only lo and eth0 and shown in iwconfig. It appears like, despite my wireless card being in the lspci output, it's not being actually being detected?
[10:46] <Hobbes> If I install torrant program under live CD ubuntu, then download something with the torrant onto the HDD, what would happen with that download if I restart?
[10:46] <bindi> nothing
[10:46] <miho_aka> %)
[10:46] <FluxD> argyle, maybe the module is not loaded or blacklisted? tried restarting?
[10:47] <argyle> FluxD: Tried restarting multiple times hoping it would somehow work again.
[10:47] <rac_> anyone heard if there's an ubuntu installer to install (another version) of ubuntu to another partition while running ubuntu ?
[10:48] <FluxD> argyle, try asking the aircrack channel
[10:48] <Hobbes> So the download would still be there?
[10:48] <Raymond> Dr_Willis: Looks like the driver I've installed before is working, thanks for your help...
[10:49] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: rename worked well, Thanks
[10:49] <sacarlson> rac_:  you can setup another grub2 entry to boot an iso to install a version of something from within a ubuntu sesion
[10:49] <FluxD> Hobbes, I dont think so
[10:49] <rac_> sac: Thanks. That would need booting again. Is there any way to just apt-get install ubuntu installer and let it install everything?
[10:50] <Hobbes> You don't think the program would still be there fluxD? Why wouldn't it be?
[10:50] <argyle> FluxD: will do, thanks!
[10:50] <FluxD> Because livecd runs from RAM
[10:50] <FluxD> Hobbes, ^
[10:51] <bindi> Hobbes: if you download to a HDD it will stay there
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  your torrent app would not have its settings saved.. and it would not rember what it had done in the past.. the stuff it DID download to the hdd would still be there..
[10:51] <rac_> oh, I could propably download the iso and virtualbox and let the VBox  use partition to install to
[10:51] <rac_> maybe even qemu?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  thats the whole point of having a 'save file' on a livecd-flash setup.
[10:52] <FluxD> Dr_Willis, what about something downloaded to desktop in livecd . What happens after reboot?
[10:52] <sacarlson> rac_: just add a grub2 custom40 entry with something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[10:52] <pksadiq> Hobbes: probably hopefully I think , your download continue from the stopped position if you show the torrent software , the same path you saved before
[10:53] <Hobbes> If the torrent program is on a usb flash drive, why couldn't it save its settings?
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> FluxD:  desktop is not on a HD.. it would be gone
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  if he Installed the torrent apt via package manager.. it installed to RAM...
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  IF you dont have a 'save file' then NO permenet settings or files get saved to the 'system'
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> ANything Not saved specifically to a HD.. is gone.
[10:54] <Hobbes> Can't I tell it to install the torrant program to flash drive or HDD?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> so Make a 'save' file on your usb setup
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  depends on what torrent app.
[10:54] <pksadiq> Hobbes: the files if saved to USB of HD  will be there untill you delete
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  if you Installed the torrent apt via package manager.. it installed to RAM...
[10:54] <pksadiq> ^of^or
[10:55] <sacarlson> rac_:  just point the isofile to the iso boot image you want to install in menuentry "Ubuntu" {     set isofile="/boot/isos/ubuntu.iso"
[10:55] <Hobbes> So how do I install it to the flash drive or the HDD?
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  you find some torrent app that you install some way OTHER then the pacakge manager..
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  what are you trying to acomplish exactly anyway?
[10:56] <FluxD> Hobbes, when in livecd mode it mounts the hdd and/or usb devices, you can save to them and file will be there
[10:57] <diskin> hi all, is it a known problem, then when I find any text in chromium, it get's highlited, and then if I switch to another tab, select something with mouse, then switch back to the tab with highlited word, it replaces my Linux selection buffer automatically?
[10:58] <argyle> OK, #aircrack told me it's not something they can help with, so let's try a different angle. Why would I see my wireless card when I run lspci, but no wireless interfaces when I run iwconfig?
[10:58] <Tanvir> Hello, where I can recover the chat log of pidgin in ubuntu? Pidgin is keeping all the logs, but I don't know where it's keeping all those logs.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Tanvir:  i would look in .pidgin perhasps or in .config/pidgin or use find/grep to searh throuigh the files in your Home. for somthing that seems related to pidgin
[10:59] <Hobbes> I want to make a USB flash drive boot from a ancient old PC to have a OS like ubuntu on a new PC to download win7 to install so that the new PC has ubuntu and win7 in duel boot, I know I will need to repair  grub if I install ubuntu rather then run it from a live version
[10:59] <psycho_oreos> argyle, check via lspci -nnk and also check dmesg as to the possible reasons why
[11:00] <ysis> Is there a better way than dd to make an (mountable) .iso image from a partition on a hdd?
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  make a usb setup with a persistant 'save' file . and  have it save the torrents to the hard drive somewhere. then you can do whatever you want to the files. if your flash drive is big enough - you could put a large save file on it.. and keep the torrent downloads there also.
[11:00] <Hobbes> Dr_willis: but repairing grub might be easier then trying to set up a torrant download under a live
[11:00] <MindSpark> can someone help me set up twinview ?
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  it pays to learn how to repair grub.. yes.
[11:01] <MindSpark> it feel like the dfp is not working at all
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> MindSpark:  all ive ever done for twinview.. install the nvidia drivers.. reboot. run nvidia-settings, check enable twinvieqw.. restart X server.. done.
[11:02] <MindSpark> Dr_Willis, how do I test if the DFP is actually connected ? It is seen by nvidia-settings, but it's as if it's not even on
[11:02] <Hobbes> Dr_willis: is it really very much work or very complicated to repair grub after a windows install?
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  takes me about 40 sec to fix...
[11:02] <argyle> psycho_oreos: lspci -nnk shows me detailed information about the card, but nothing else that I can tell would help me. As for dmesg, is there a way to better filter the output to look for something related to wlan?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  if you gto a working system and a spare flash drive. you can install grub to the flash drive and use that as a 'backup' to boot the system to linux after you install windows also.
[11:03] <Tanvir> Dr_Willis, I see nothing named .pidgin or in .config/pidgin
[11:03] <Daghdha> 'lo .. how can i see if i have 32 or 64 bit ubuntu installed?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  plug in flash drive do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and be sure to tell it to isntall to the flash.
[11:03] <Hobbes> To do a what?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> Tanvir:  use the find command perhaps and search  your home for log files. or the other file search features of gnome. I dont use pidgin at all.
[11:04] <psycho_oreos> argyle, normally, for almost each of the listed devices it would show the relevant kernel modules that are loaded (which will be shown as in use) and what other modules are available under lspci -nnk (hence the -k switch). As for dmesg, not really, you could probably just grep out ipw2200 but might even be a good idea to pastebin the entire log so that I or someone else might be able to help
[11:04] <Hobbes> Are you talking about something that a regular live CD usb flash drive could do?
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  to make a 'grub boot' flash drive.. to boot the system back to luinux after wndows trashes the grub menu.
[11:04] <Tanvir> Dr_Willis, how to do tha?
[11:04] <psycho_oreos> Daghdha, uname -a, look at the last few words at the end
[11:04] <psycho_oreos> Daghdha, better yet iirc its uname -m
[11:04] <Tanvir> Dr_Willis, I mean use the search.. How can I do that?
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> Tanvir:  perhaps 'find  | grep pidgin'
[11:04] <Hobbes> You mean every time I want to boot to linux?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Tanvir:  or places -> search for files
[11:05] <Hobbes> Or something that will fix the grub?
[11:05] <eichi> pksadiq: i try it now with plop bootmanager and usb driver. cd driver allways couses read write errors
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  No... its a RESCUE flash drive i made.. that lets me get back to linux IF windows trashes the MBR.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> handy use for old small flash drives.
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> windows trashes my mbr.. i pup in the flash drive.. boot it.. it boots grub and loads my installed ubuntu os.. i then use the proper command to reinstall grub to the mbr.. windows damage is then fixed.
[11:06] <eichi> Dr_Willis: what is "windows"? ;)
[11:06] <argyle> psycho_oreos: http://pastebin.com/N8RPHj61
[11:06] <Daghdha> x86 64
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> eichi:  what does 'what' mean.. :)
[11:06] <Daghdha> so that'll be 64bit i take it
[11:06] <psycho_oreos> Daghdha, that's definitely 64bit
[11:07] <Hobbes> Oh, I reinstall grub from within the linux boot?
[11:07] <Daghdha> I tried installling grub2 several times yesterday on my restored backup disk. I tried several methods, none worked. grub2 is realy a crime to get working. Is there an alternative to booting into my linux?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  if you can boot to your original system you  just rerun 'sudo update-grub' to have it reinstall grub.
[11:08] <shooood> hi, i have a toshipa lap top and the wireless didn't work ?? does it need any configuration ?????
[11:08] <karlo94> when I start downloading torrent on transmission it's ask me what I want to download, I check thing that I wanna download, and it ignore me.. it download all, any suggestion?
[11:09] <psycho_oreos> argyle, there's an issue with the firmware according to the dmesg output, check lines 727-729
[11:09] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: original system=within linux?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  my original system = the linux i allready had installed.. so yes.
[11:10] <psycho_oreos> Daghdha, normally its possible via liveCD/liveDVD/liveUSB boot, mount and chroot into your linux setup and resetup grub or grub2 from there
[11:10] <Tanvir> Dr_Willis, I found the answer in #pidgin. --> ~/.purple/logs !
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> karlo94:  transmissions is a rather basic client. You may want to try others.
[11:10] <Tanvir> Dr_Willis, thanks for your effort!
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> Tanvir:  it pays to learn how to search for files. :) good to have google skills also.. heh
[11:11] <karlo94> Dr_Willis, is deluge good? ..what do you recommend?
[11:11] <Hobbes> So how do I turn a Bootable live! Ubuntun created my unetbootin usb flash drive, into one that has the grub necessary to load back into the original linux install? It wouldn't already come with that?
[11:12] <Daghdha> psycho_oreos: I tried several ways of doing just that yesterday.
[11:12] <n20> Helo
[11:12] <Daghdha> And none of them worked.
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> karlo94:  depends on your needs. ive been using qbittorrent lately. Ktorrent is also a fave..
[11:12] <Daghdha> i tried the chroot thing and the grub2-install --rootdirectory thing
[11:13] <n20> I'm guiding my mom to get network running on a 7.04 live-cd, what's the DHCP-client in use there and how do I get an ip? `sudo dhclient`?
[11:13] <karlo94> Dr_Willis, tnx, I gonna try  qbittorrent :)
[11:13] <psycho_oreos> Daghdha, that should be the universal way, albeit ancient, normally when chroot is setup right you basically have the setup of your own linux machine apart from running the kernel and initrd from your machine
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  unetbootin uses 'syslinux' not grub last i checked.. if you have your linux system booted to. You can use any flash drive and that 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' command to put a 'grub' restore type setup on it..  it dosent even have to be a big flash drive.. 128mb is enough even..
[11:13] <vosh> is ur mom a computer operator?
[11:13] <n20> vosh: Soon to be lol. :-)
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> n20:  7.04 is very very old.. you may want to find a newer cd.
[11:14] <psycho_oreos> n20, that sounds ancient, 7.04, might not even be supported
[11:14] <vosh> it always need a guru to configure linux
[11:14] <n20> Well, I don't have a newer at their place.
[11:14] <vosh> even for trivial things
[11:14] <n20> 7.04 should be working, via wired
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> vosh:  dont spread rumors please...
[11:14] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: how to repartition a pendrive messed up with cat /dev/null         parted and fdisk doesn't work well
[11:14] <Daghdha> Is it correct that when you copy the MBR and then restore it on a relpaced disk that it does not work?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  gparted should ask to make a 'partition layout' (or somthing liek that) on it.. you would select 'dos' then it should let you make partitions.
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  depends on how you copied it. The partition mayout may be differnt. that can cojfuse things
[11:15] <psycho_oreos> Daghdha, it depends on how you saved MBR initially, normally the stuff is not easily accessible and requires dd
[11:16] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: So I can use unetbootin live to install linux, then use that command to put the grub restore thing on that same USB flash drive?
[11:16] <Daghdha> i used dd and did 1st 512 bytes of the device
[11:16] <xannax> Hello
[11:16] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: I don't have access to GUI
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  not from a unetbootin live system.. if you had an installed system.. you could.
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  and not on the 'same' flash drive as your unetbootin system.. a differnt flash drive
[11:16] <Daghdha> i will try tha chroot once mare later.
[11:17] <sacarlson> Daghdha: what problems do you see at boot time, what problem are you having?  what command did you use to install the mbr to your boot disk?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  fdisk should work or parted.. or i would suggest a 'gparted live cd' also.
[11:17] <xannax> I have a bash script here that is driving me crazy, I wonder if someone will have a look at it...Here it is:_uamq="${mysql} -u '${_madminuser}' -h '${_mhost}' -p'${_madminpwd}' -e \"CREATE DATABASE ${_db};\""
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  ive had to use dd to 'zero' out flash drives in the past..
[11:17] <psycho_oreos> Daghdha, you need to follow a proper guide, such as the need to also mount /dev, /proc and what not
[11:17] <Daghdha> I did
[11:18] <xannax> it works; I mean, if on the next line I echo $_uamq, and copy-paste it, it works as intended
[11:18] <andrelindgren> Hello! When I run update-grub it can't find my Win7-partition, even though it's browseable in Nautilus. Any suggestions? :)
[11:18] <xannax> but if I just ouput the line in the script, then I get mysql's help, as if I had no arguments
[11:18] <xannax> any suggestion?
[11:18] <Hobbes> Dr_willis: If I used the unetbootin live system to install ubuntu I said. I could then use that install to make that grub restore system?
[11:18] <Daghdha> Ok, where can i find an ubuntu CD that goes to shell and not to X?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  the command i gave 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' needzs to be ran from a 'working' ubuntu install
[11:19] <Daghdha> Because the Live CD only lets me go to X and that doesn't work because it needs some kernel params i don't know currently.
[11:19] <sacarlson> Daghdha: problem some people do is the install the mbr to the wrong disk , this can happen if you boot from a usb that becomes /dev/sda  and your boot disk becomes /dev/sdb  later when usb is not installed your boot disk becomes /dev/sda with no mbr
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  alternative installer cd can do that.   you could also try the 'nomodeset' or 'text' options to the live cd you have.
[11:20] <shooood> what does " Wrong architecture 'amd64'  " mean ????
[11:20] <Hobbes> Dr_willis: which can be made by the unitbootin live, right?!?
[11:20] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis" ubuntu-10.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent  <- that?
[11:20] <red2kic> shooood: It mean you need to use 32bit, I suppose.
[11:21] <shooood> red2kic : it appears when i tried to install skype
[11:21] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: Unitbootin live can be used to install ubuntu???
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  yes..
[11:22] <red2kic> shooood: Run "uname -m" -- It'll tell you what machine you have. If you're on amd64, you may have to install lib32.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  theres other tools like lili, and others at pendrivelinux web site that can  do what unetbootin does.. and make a persistant save file.. unetbootin dosent have that feature last i checked
[11:23] <serialized> does any one have nvrm xid paging errors?  ive looked all over on the net but no one has seem to come up with an answer?  im using nvidia fx 350m
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  the alt-cd uses a text based installer yes..  depending ion what you want to do.
[11:23] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: and then when it does install ubuntu, that install can be used to make that grub restoring program?
[11:23] <Daghdha> i wanna chroot it and grub-update it
[11:24] <serialized> NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 6, PE0000 07f4 0012aa04 00000000 7e33f000 00000000
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  if you have ubuntu intalled.. yes.. that install can be used to generaate a  flash drive that can boot THAT install if windows trashes it..
[11:25]  * Daghdha cringes
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> for every ubuntu box i 'make' i keep a flash drive handy for a grub 'rescue' (a little flash,) and then i got a flash drive setup that i used to install from.
[11:26] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis Why can't the same USB flash drive be used for a grub rescue?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  because you can only have ONE thing installed to the MBR of the flash drive
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  i tend to use a command like --> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint  /dev/sda --recheck
[11:27] <Hobbes> It could be burned to a CD though?
[11:27] <icedtea> whats the name of the command when you can pipe something and for each argument it will ran the command x for you?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  burn what to a cd?
[11:27] <pawan> I have just installed ubuntu and then tried to boot into windows 7 but it fails to boot.
[11:27] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis grub rescue program
[11:27] <icedtea> ahh xargs
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  its not a 'program' its installing the GRUB to the MBR of the flash drive...
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  it takes no space on the flash drive. (its in the mbr),
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> thats why even a litlte 128mb flash drive can do it.
[11:28] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: could that be burned onto a CD?
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  No.
[11:28] <Hobbes> Could I store what ever I like on the rest of the usb flash drive?
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  yes.
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> it would be a fat32 or whatever fs.
[11:29] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis it has to be fat32?
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> it would be a fat32 >>>>>>>> or whatever fs. <<<<<<<<<
[11:29] <shooood> red2kic : does this lib 32 support skype ???
[11:30] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: So NTFS or anything I like?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  using ntfs on  a usb flash drive is a little overkill.
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  try it and see
[11:30] <Hobbes> How is that?
[11:30] <red2kic> shooood: Afaik, there are no amd64 binary for skype, only i386.
[11:30] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: I tried that SEVERAL times. Always with the same result. It appears the bootloader starts looping or loop crashing with the screen blinking every second or so
[11:30] <Daghdha> Oh not with --recheck though
[11:30] <Hobbes> How is it overkill?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:   thats weird..  My little grub reinstall notes -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/563376/
[11:31] <Daghdha> Also, i used grub2
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  ntfs on anything under 4gb is overkill.
[11:31] <Hobbes> *can't recall what FS stands for anyway*
[11:31] <shooood> it told me so
[11:31] <shooood> red2kic: it told me so
[11:31] <shooood> red2kic: i386
[11:32] <Anubis1> hi
[11:32] <vosh> FS = file system
[11:32] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: I assume that was directed at me even though you said daghdha, Well some of my USB flash drives are 8gb
[11:32] <shooood> red2kic: sorry i686
[11:32] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: anyway, even if it is overkill, what does it matter as long as it works?
[11:32] <pawan> I have just installed ubuntu and then tried to boot into windows 7 but it fails to boot.  \
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  go do what you want then.
[11:32] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis is there a disdvantage to overkill?
[11:33] <red2kic> shooood: Okay. Fast question. How did you get Skype? From the website?
[11:33] <shooood> red2kic: yes
[11:33] <red2kic> shooood: You want 32-bit, not 64-bit. Did you get 64-bit?
[11:33] <Anubis1> i just upgraded some packages on my 1004LTS machine(kubuntu) and now i can see only some colored rectangles on my screen.
[11:33] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis Does NTFS use more space or something?
[11:33] <shooood> red2kic: how can i know
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  it can. and its not supported  as well.
[11:33] <Anubis1> i cant access any console
[11:33] <Anubis1> what should i do ?
[11:33] <red2kic> shooood: What does the file say?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  and if you notice  - unetbootin and other usb-disk creator tools almost always use fat32
[11:34] <ysis> Anubis1: So you cannot get to tty1 with Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[11:34] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis supported by what?
[11:34] <shooood> red2kic: skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_amd64
[11:34] <andrelindgren> Hello! When I run update-grub it can't find my Win7-partition, even though it's browseable in Nautilus. Any suggestions? :)
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  usb disk creator tools for starters..
[11:34] <Anubis1> ysis: i tried already
[11:34] <red2kic> shooood: Wrong file. Go and grab 32-bit.
[11:34] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis I was told unetbootin uses what ever format is on the disk, that unetbootin supports all the FS, am I wrong?
[11:35] <shooood> red2kic : thanks i'll try it
[11:35] <Hobbes> I mean was I told wrong?
[11:35] <shooood> red2kic: how can i sreach for a pregram using terminal
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  i always see it use fat32, Most flash drives come fat32
[11:35] <llutz>  apt-cache search pattern1 pattern2 program
[11:35] <red2kic> shooood: "apt-cache search pidgin"
[11:36] <skurakai> Hi. I'am looking for game like rLines (glines with showing next turn - colours and place for showing new bubbles)
[11:36] <Daghdha> USB Installer doesn't know; ubuntu-10.10-alternate-amd64.iso  should i just rename it to a desktop 10.10 version it does know?
[11:36] <shooood> red2kic: thanks
[11:36] <Anubis1> so, any idea ?
[11:36] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: Does unetbootin support FS other then fat32 or not?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  ive never noticed or tried or needed it to support anything else.
[11:37] <ysis> Anubis1: So you're stuck in a unusable X11 session? You could try Alt+SysRq+R to get the keybord to raw mode. Then try Alt+F1 again.
[11:37] <Daghdha> why isn't there a boot iso that just lets you pick a boot partition? Or am i askings omething stupid now?
[11:37] <skurakai> rlines under wine doesn't work correctly
[11:37] <kybosh> hi guys, i just installed ubuntu for netbook and i encountered one small problem - i cant connect to wifi. I got all needed drivers and updates, but i cant switch my wifi adapter ON - there is hardware switch (ON) and keybord switch (unactive). Seems like i have accidentaly switched my adapter OFF in windows before installing ubuntu and now i  cant switch it ON, because I deleted windows already...Is there some way how to switch my wif
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  because to boot specific os's often requires specific arguments/options.
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  there as some 'super grub' type disks out that may try to be smarter about it.
[11:38] <Temar> i broke my server :'(
[11:38] <ysis> Anubis1: Alt+SysRq+K should kill X, but maybe it will just restart and give the same situation. I would disable autostarting X11 and try with startx first.
[11:38] <Temar> i broke my server :'(
[11:38] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: What do you mean the other FS can use up more space, they either do or don't I would think
[11:39] <Temar> cant get it too boot up now
[11:39] <bazhang> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#requirements  Hobbes have a read
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  You dont understand the internals of differnt filesystems then.
[11:39] <bazhang> Hobbes, please do some reading on this. this is getting offtopic
[11:39] <Daghdha> hehe super grub2 disk is what i want i think.. will try that l;ater too
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  a 1tb hard drive formated to fat32, vs one with ntfs.. will have differnt amounts of useable space.
[11:39] <Anubis1> ysis: i'm stucked in something. i don't know where. is there a way to restart in some interactive way and tell which services to start and which not >
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  and ext2/ext3/ext4 will also differ
[11:39] <Anubis1> ?
[11:40] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: With more advanced systems having less usable space?
[11:40] <bazhang> !ot | Hobbes
[11:40] <bazhang> Hobbes, please get back on topic.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  check the wikipedia on filesytems it explanis it i think.
[11:40] <Hobbes> Bazhang: I've looked that page before
[11:41] <ysis> Anubis1: So switching to raw mode didn't work?
[11:41] <Anubis1> ysis: it didnt work at all
[11:41] <bazhang> Hobbes, this is not the place to discuss file system advantages/disadvantages. Please do some reading up on it.
[11:41] <Hobbes> bazhang: This relates to installing ubuntin from a flash drive
[11:41] <Anubis1> it like being dead somehow
[11:41] <bazhang> Hobbes, it requires fat32. lets move on
[11:42] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis, PM me please?
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  i could of had ubuntu installed 5 times in the time this converstation has been going on....
[11:42] <ysis> Anubis1: Hmm, do you have ssh access to the machine? I don't know how to enable/disable services in ubuntu at boot time... In Gentoo I can use press "i" to get into interactive boot mode. Don't know if this works for ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:42] <Temar> how can i fix m disk so it boots again?
[11:43] <piper69> how can i sniff packet between two router in my lan using tcpdump please?
[11:43] <llutz> !details | Temar
[11:44] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis so no PM?
[11:44] <Anubis1> ysis: i know that "i" is entering in interactive mode (redhat) but i'm not sure if it's working on ubuntu/kukbuntu
[11:44] <llutz> Temar: "cant get it too boot " is no error description
[11:44] <Temar> i got ubuntu 9.04 i was trying to setup raid, but due to not having seperate boot partitions i had problems, i can cant even get it to load it said system not found
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  I got other things going on.  you may want to read up on filsystems and stuff to learn fundamentals..
[11:44] <vinodkumar> hello
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> Hobbes:  stick to the actual ubuntu probolems you are having in here.. (what IS the actual problem anyway?()
[11:45] <pooltable> how to update maps on a gps tomtom?
[11:45] <vinodkumar> I cannot mount a specific ntfs partition
[11:45] <vinodkumar> I want to mount 3 partitions at boottime
[11:45] <vinzie> hello peeps
[11:46] <ysis> Anubis1: So did you try or google for ubuntu interactive boot mode? Sorry that I can't help more, but I never booted ubuntu interactively.
[11:46] <Temar> vinodkumar i think u need /etc/fstab
[11:46] <vinodkumar> http://pastie.org/1533628
[11:46] <vinodkumar> I edited fstab
[11:46] <vinodkumar> But the sda5 is not mounting..
[11:46] <vinzie> i m tryin to use my webcam...but its sayin video ot found..
[11:46] <ysis> Anubis1: You could also use a live cd to change the startup behavior I guess. But this is maybe a little fiddly.
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> vinodkumar:  the other 2 are working?
[11:47] <jacktheripper> I'm trying to compile a ruby extension. It can't find -lruby-static and libruby-static.a isn't there in any package on the ubuntu repos.
[11:47] <Hobbes> Dr_Willis: Not sure if I am allowed to say or not
[11:47] <sacarlson> Temar: did you use the alternate adition to install your raid system,  it seems to guide you through what can and can't do
[11:48] <Temar> i was just doing wat some webpage said to do
[11:48] <vinodkumar> yes
[11:48] <icedtea> how can I tell what version of ubuntu I'm on? Can't remember if I'm 10.10 or something else
[11:48] <Temar> i dont care about getting raid setup now, just want it bk online :p
[11:48] <sacarlson> Temar: so setup using the desktop edition?
[11:48] <bazhang> icedtea, lsb_release -a  in terminal
[11:48] <vinodkumar> After adding this, If I click on the partition in nautilus it says not privileged
[11:49] <Temar> i was doing comands and file edits
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> vinodkumar:  you need to use proper options to allow users to fully access the ntfs filesystems
[11:49] <icedtea> cool thanks bazhang
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> vinodkumar:  you may want to install and run the 'ntfs-config' tool.
[11:49] <awesomenickname> hey hey, tried to use Blueman. "Bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue." Googled a bit, but nothing useful. When I start `bluetoothd -u`, it, well, starts. How can I trace the problem?
[11:49] <Temar> i been undoing the file edits already using a recovering console
[11:49] <ysis> icedtea: Try Google first. ;-)
[11:49] <vinodkumar> OK.
[11:50] <Temar> tried doing a grub reinstall also
[11:50] <th_> awesomenickname, do you have a bluetooth service running?
[11:50] <sacarlson> Temar: if not much to loose sometimes easier just to reinstall
[11:50] <Temar> alot to lose
[11:50] <Temar> website, bots all sorts
[11:51] <Temar> altho i can transfer over onto a new install
[11:51] <Temar> but i wana get it all online asap
[11:51] <Temar> new install is alot of work
[11:51] <bazhang> !enter | Temar
[11:51] <sacarlson> Temar: trial and error is alot of work,  install is about 30 min
[11:52] <awesomenickname> th_ I'm not sure what is bluetooth service exactly.    $ ps aux | grep blue       gives me:            root  3252  0.0  0.1  27472  2016 ?  Ss   14:47   0:00 bluetoothd -u
[11:52] <Temar> install yes, setup everything not so quick :/
[11:52] <awesomenickname> th_ I also use wifi keyboard, but I had to pair it via cron through this:     hidd --connect E8:06:88:40:4F:2E
[11:52] <Temar> i dont mind install cuz it will be nice having a cleaned up system and latest version cuz im stuck/bugged at 9.04, its just time
[11:53] <sacarlson> Temar: ok so what does sudo fdisk -l look like now then
[11:53] <Temar> and server get used alot at certain times
[11:53] <Temar> hold on let me load up console
[11:53] <th_> awesomenickname, service called "bluetooth".
[11:55] <rsv> i am a broadcom wifi on my laptop it works on windows. how do i make it to work on ubuntu
[11:56] <awesomenickname> th_ no, there is only "bluetoothd". Also, when I start ubuntu's default bluetooth config, it says "Bluetooth disabled", with huge "Turn on" button. If I press it, nothing happens. If I reopen this setting, it still says "disabled"
[11:57] <vinodkumar> ntfs-config tool is not running
[11:57] <vinodkumar> It is crashing
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/11/fix-ntfs-configuration-tool-in-ubuntu.html
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> i was hopeing they had fixed that...
[11:58] <awesomenickname> th_  `sudo service bluetooth start` does the same thing - it starts bluetoothd (successfully, as I can tell by syslog)
[11:58] <sacarlson> rsv: slight more info on the broadcom would help like is it usb or pci,  if usb I can't help you, otherwise lshw | pastebinit
[11:58] <Temar> ok done the command, i got 2 drives listed, top (the 1 i want) has 3 partitians sda1 has * under Boot
[11:59] <rsv> i think it is pci or built into the motherboard
[11:59] <awesomenickname> th_    /etc/init.d/bluetooth status    ->    * bluetooth is running
[11:59] <th_> awesomenickname, good
[11:59] <rsv> i am not sure
[11:59] <th_> awesomenickname, so what was the problem?
[11:59] <sacarlson> rsv: if there no stick sticking out then it's pci
[12:00] <awesomenickname> th_ problem is, default manager says bluetooth is disabled, and blueman says "Bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue."
[12:01] <th_> awesomenickname, theres a daemon called bluez. do you have that one running?
[12:01] <awesomenickname> th_ no. How can I start it manually?
[12:02] <Temar> sacarlson?
[12:02] <sacarlson> ?
[12:02] <nettezzaumana> hi there
[12:02] <th_> awesomenickname, command line?
[12:02] <pooltable> how to update maps on a gps tomtom?
[12:03] <nettezzaumana> would any of you gimme list of packages related to default vnc stack in Ubuntu ... i think that "dpkg -S `which Xvnc`" will cover that
[12:03] <vinodkumar> wow.. partition at boot time fixed.. thanks
[12:04] <Kruptein> Hey I get this error after doing gksudo dpkg -i file.deb   http://dpaste.com/391260/
[12:04] <Kruptein> any ideas?
[12:04] <awesomenickname> th_ bluez package contains /etc/init.d/bluetooth, which I started earlier. There is no separate 'bluez' utility
[12:04] <th_> awesomenickname, aaah true. its just package containing everything needed
[12:05] <th_> sry
[12:05] <rsv> sacarlson: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1030135
[12:05] <sacarlson> nettezzaumana: I'm not sure I understand but I think veno-server is one side and the client starts with vina??
[12:05] <sacarlson> rsv: ok reading
[12:05] <nettezzaumana> sacarlson: o.O
[12:06] <nettezzaumana> sacarlson: i'm doing vnc package for opensuse and now i'm snooping how it's about with competitiors .. i expected that you're using one of tightvnc or tigervnc
[12:06] <piper69> IP ir1.fp.vip.sp2.yahoo.com > my-srvr.local: ICMP echo reply, id 15910, seq 15928, length 64
[12:06] <Temar> sacarlson: done the command, i got 2 drives listed, top (the 1 i want) has 3 partitians sda1 has * under Boot
[12:07] <piper69> ^^ what could be using this ?
[12:08] <red2kic_> piper69: Run "lsof -i" -- You might get something useful.
[12:08] <Seveas> nettezzaumana, the default vpn client in ubuntu isn't xvnc but vinagre
[12:08] <rsv> sacarlson: both wifi and ethernet use broadcom. i can use the ethernet but not thw wifi
[12:09] <piper69> ~lsof
[12:09] <piper69> !lsof
[12:10] <piper69> red2kic waht is lsof -i please
[12:10] <sacarlson> rsv: I can't seem to  see a wifi device in there
[12:10] <nettezzaumana> Seveas: vpn != vnc .. i'm interested about vnc
[12:10] <red2kic_> piper69: ls (list) of (open files)
[12:11] <sacarlson> rsv: I wonder if you have it disabled in bios or if rfkill will bring it back to life
[12:11] <nettezzaumana> Seveas: sorry .. not clue what's *vinagre
[12:11] <Seveas> nettezzaumana, vinagre is a vnc client, "vpn" was a typo :)
[12:11] <nettezzaumana> okay
[12:11] <Seveas> !info vinagre
[12:11] <Temar> no idea then sacarlson?
[12:11] <nettezzaumana> Seveas: thanks .. i need to investigate what's it .. i'm actually considering to switch tightvnc -> tigervnc
[12:11] <Seveas> though I prefer remmina myself
[12:12] <rsv> okay let me check
[12:12] <rsv> can i check in windows?
[12:12] <rsv> how do i?
[12:12] <Daghdha> hmm
[12:12] <sacarlson> Temar: try install rfkill and see what it see's
[12:13] <Temar> useing apt?
[12:13] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: I tried super grub, it sees my grub on a partition and i tell it to boot. It then starts behaving exactly as when i try to boot from HDD. So i guess my grub2 installs to the MBR where correct. And something else is wrong.
[12:13] <piper69> red2kicwhy i got vino
[12:13] <sacarlson> Temar: also look in bios boot see if wifi is visable there
[12:13] <Temar> erm wifi?
[12:14] <Temar> think ur mixing up people
[12:14] <Daghdha> Screen just flashes every 4 seconds or so.
[12:14] <Temar> apt-get cant find rfkill
[12:15] <nettezzaumana> Seveas: would you pastebin for me or PM me a list of packages including that stack .. eg something like: dpkg -S `which Xvnc`; dpkg -S `which vncviewer`
[12:15] <Daghdha> Could it be because there is no swap partition?
[12:15] <piper69> red2kic so why vino pinging yahoo
[12:15] <Daghdha> (partimage didn't let m emake a backup for that)
[12:15] <hermidaprada> hi
[12:15] <red2kic> piper69: I have no idea.
[12:16] <piper69> red2kic i bet 'apt-get remove <pkg> --purge' will know better
[12:16] <piper69> :D
[12:18] <Temar> ok so when i installed ubuntu i got the server version, but i also installed stuff like ubuntu-desktop and KDE
[12:18] <piper69> ok so i removed vino but lsof -i still shows its running
[12:18] <jrib> piper69: so stop it
[12:18] <piper69> jrib kill it you mean
[12:19] <Temar> if i wanted to install new for same, should i get server version or just go for desktop (this is for a Server i just like a desktop on it)
[12:19] <jrib> piper69: I mean stop it.  Go to the gui and turn off desktop sharing.  That would be the first thing to try
[12:19] <esmirlin> hello! a question... i have a netbook and regular unity is sooooooo slow... so i want to know if someone has tryed the 2d version and if the performance really get better...
[12:20] <Incarus6> esmirlin, can you paste < glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" > ?
[12:20] <piper69> hahahahahahaha i can't beleive my self sometimes ....i have a terminal open on the server that is pinging yahoo
[12:21] <jrib> piper69: yahoo is going to be mad!
[12:21] <esmirlin> Incarus6, i'm not in ubuntu right now... i'm in bodhi (e17 ubuntu 10.04)
[12:22] <piper69> jrib hahah last time i was working on my server was Wed and it is Sun now...so that thing was pinging yahooo since Wed :D
[12:22] <aLeSD> hi all
[12:22] <Incarus6> esmirlin, Enlightenment? that command should work here too
[12:23] <Daghdha> What would cause a ubuntu install to flash every four seconds at boot? (Like it's in some loop crashing)
[12:23] <Daghdha> No text output at all
[12:23] <aLeSD> how can I check if my audio card EMU10k1 plays midi files ?
[12:23] <Temar> any 1 else able to help get my server book
[12:24] <esmirlin> ok i'll try
[12:24] <Temar> boot*, i dont wana have to reinstall right now, i wana go bed and people wana use it in like 3 hours (like 50 people :/ )
[12:25] <iluciv> hu
[12:25] <Incarus6> Temar, whats the exact problem?
[12:25] <iluciv> hi
[12:25] <Benkinooby> !unity
[12:25] <Temar> after trying to setup raid1 which i dont care about now, it wont boot at all
[12:26] <esmirlin> Incarus6, direct rendering: Yes
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  X server crashing/restarting could do that..
[12:27] <pylix> My Windows 7 OS has failed to boot up ever since i installed Ubuntu 10.10 . when i ran the diagnostic CD,(windows 7 install disk) it detected the installation and reported there were no problems with the startup
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  you have the system installed, or is this the live cd?
[12:27] <Temar> fdisk -l =  <Temar> ok done the command, i got 2 drives listed, top (the 1 i want) has 3 partitians sda1 has * under Boot
[12:27] <Incarus6> pylix, windows have to be allways the first partition on your hard drive, is that the case?
[12:27] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: This is the backup i was grubbing. Turns out it was grubbed properly all the time and just doing something else wrong. It is IMMEDIATELY after boot.
[12:27] <Daghdha> So it'snot X.
[12:28] <Daghdha> boot of the device, not linux
[12:28] <pylix> it's /dev/sda1 if that what you mean
[12:28] <pylix> that's**
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:   it could be plymouth goofing up.. have you tried the 'text' or 'nomode' set options?
[12:28] <Daghdha> i am guessing it's m issing swap?
[12:28] <Benkinooby> !gnome-shell
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  swap partitions shouldent be making it crash.
[12:29] <Temar> isnt swap memory extension?
[12:29] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: there is NOTHING to nomode or text on. Ok..
[12:29] <pylix> can i remove the boot altogether so windows can fix it's boot?
[12:29] <Benkinooby> if i understood correctly, unity is an gnome-shell. so it's "somehow like a theme" for the gnome desktop?
[12:29] <Benkinooby> som1 can verify that?
[12:29] <LjL> Benkinooby: it's much more than a theme
[12:29] <johnn> Hi, I need some help
[12:29] <Incarus6> pylix, you mean the mbr?
[12:29] <LjL> Benkinooby: a "theme" is merely graphics for an existing program
[12:29] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: I turn it on.. it boots from had and starts flashing every 4 seconds. (I see the 'analogue' my monitor put up when there's no VGA when it flashes. So something is wrong.
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  if you dont see the grub menu. you hit the shift (or space?) key to get to the grub menu. and then can try some options.
[12:29] <Benkinooby> LjL, yes i understood. i just wanted the get the relationship right
[12:29] <esmirlin> Incarus6, so?
[12:29] <LjL> Benkinooby: unity is the whole graphical environment from which you start programs
[12:29] <Daghdha> pretty much about to give up tbh.
[12:30] <Daghdha> I don't see a grub menu
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> can you even get to the bios screen?  that almost sounds like somthing at the hardware issue if its crashing befor grub  even gets going.
[12:30] <johnn> After a clean up I did, everytime I reboot I have no window manager and I have to manualy enable the desktop effects.. What's going wrong?
[12:30] <Incarus6> esmirlin, interesting. can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  tap the shift key as it boots.. if grubs hidden it should show..
[12:30] <Benkinooby> LjL, but what i want to know is that is is on top of gnome... just not using the gnome-shell
[12:31] <sacarlson> Temar: yes got you confused with rsv when you didn't  add anything about the subject sorry
[12:31] <Daghdha> I see no grub
[12:31] <LjL> Benkinooby: that is correct
[12:31] <Daghdha> If i boot CD or USB it works.
[12:31] <Daghdha> the booting i mean, not my system.
[12:31] <juk> Benkinooby: on top of compiz also
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> if grub menu is set to be hidden.. you need to tap the shift key as it starts up. to get it to show. Or eidt the grub configs to make it always shopw.
[12:31]  * Dr_Willis hates how the defaults are often to hide grub.
[12:32] <Daghdha> i tabbed the hell out o fit, see nothing
[12:33] <johnn> After a clean up I did, everytime I reboot I have no window manager and I have to manualy enable the desktop effects.. What's going wrong?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  sounds like its crashing befor grub even starts then.
[12:33] <Incarus6> johnn, but the problem is fixed yet?
[12:33] <johnn> any help, please?
[12:33] <sacarlson> Temar: well I don't see any info about a raid install,  what you gave me just says you have 3 partitions
[12:33] <pylix> i've ran 3 OS's(1 Ubuntu, windows xp and 7) before with no boot issues so i'm not sure what it is when i ever i try to boot windows it's just a black screen with a _ in the upper right corner. i've waited like 5 mins but it never moves
[12:33] <Daghdha> Bow before super grub disk!
[12:34] <esmirlin> Incarus6, http://pastebin.com/tapXvMYz
[12:34] <Daghdha> It is booting my backup
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> johnn:  perhaps install and run 'fusion-icon' that will let you select compiz or metacity as the default window manager.
[12:34] <Daghdha> WIN!
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  :) there ya go.
[12:34] <johnn> When I enable desktop effects is fixed, but after each reboot I loose the settings..
[12:34] <sacarlson> Temar: what file format are they?  can you mount them from a live cd boot?
[12:34] <Daghdha> for godsake. The guy that made taht disk is a GOD
[12:34] <Incarus6> pylix, with dual boot?
[12:34] <Temar> yer it says stuff about raid on the other hdd, i didnt change that to raid yet
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  if you got a spare flash drive. you can put a extra copy of grub on its mbr. for booting  rescue
[12:34] <Temar> wasnt a complete setup
[12:34] <Daghdha> uh..
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> actually even a floppy can work for that job.
[12:35] <Temar> ext3
[12:35] <pylix> yeah i'm running a dual atm except my windows 7 refused to load
[12:35] <pylix> refuses*
[12:35] <sacarlson> Temar: hard to peace this altogether
[12:35] <Temar> and yes i can mount but seems to be read online
[12:35]  * Daghdha will now run grub-update
[12:35] <Daghdha> And see if it will boot then
[12:35] <johnn> I am using Lucid Lynx, which is the default window manager on it?
[12:35] <Temar> only*
[12:36] <sacarlson> Temar: from a live cd you can't mount read write?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  once i had to do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' and made SURE it was installing to the proper mbr on the proper hd..
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  that can also put a grub on the mbr of a flash drive. (thats how i make a backup flash rescue grub thing)
[12:36] <Temar> well it did its self
[12:36] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: With all due respect... i think i will just keep a copy of the godlike super grub disk at hand instead :)
[12:36] <esmirlin> Incarus6, did you read?
[12:37] <Daghdha> ..
[12:37] <pylix> i'm gonna try it again
[12:37] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis .. is ubuntu 10.10 grub2?
[12:37] <johnn> Which is the default window manager on 10.04
[12:37] <johnn> ?
[12:37] <pylix> brb
[12:38] <karlo94> how I can connect to windows computer on same network?
[12:38] <Incarus6> esmirlin, i'm not sure about the last part of the file (line 394) but i can't find any abnormality here
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  yes
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> johnn:  compiz for effects. metacity for no effexcts
[12:38] <Daghdha> There are no grub2 commands though, they all grub-xxxxxxx commands
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  they are the same..
[12:39] <sacarlson> Temar: so what is your plan?  mount the raid disk partitions,  move them to a none raid partitions setup grub2 to point to the new disks and be done with it?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> update-grub = update-grub2
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> ones a script that calls the other i think
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> johnn:  if ya got an issue ask in the channel.
[12:39] <johnn> How could I enable compiz?
[12:39] <johnn> permanently
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> johnn:  use fusion icon, is one way. or 'compiz --replace' is another.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> !info fusion-icon
[12:40] <johnn> compiz replace is permanent?
[12:40] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis : I am rebooting now.. fingers crossed
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> johnn:  try it and see.
[12:40] <johnn> or I have to do it after each reboot..
[12:40] <johnn> ok
[12:40] <johnn> Thanks
[12:40] <johnn> !
[12:40] <Temar> right now i just wana get it so load 1 way or another i dont care, i decided to reinstall but when i have time to sort it all, and its only grub not 2
[12:41] <Daghdha> Works. So basically my work of approcimately 1.5 days can be summarized in: (1) Get super grub disk (2) Let it detect OS (3) update-grub2 .. done in 3 minutes.
[12:41] <Temar> ok i loaded up live, now how do i tell this to mount writeable
[12:41] <esmirlin> Incarus6, my computer shut down sorry did you read what you asked me?
[12:42] <Incarus6> [13:38:17] <Incarus6> esmirlin, i'm not sure about the last part of the file (line 394) but i can't find any abnormality here
[12:42] <sacarlson> Temar: oh I don't think grub-legacy will boot from a raid device but grub2 will, so that may have been where some of your problems started
[12:43] <Temar> yer i only had linux 9.04 due to upgrade issues
[12:43] <frimend> How do I download music from myspace? O_o
[12:43] <KB1JWQ> Temar: That's a Ubuntu version number, not a Linux version. :-)
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  my use of a rescue flash drive saves even more time.
[12:43] <Temar> yer thats wat i ment :p
[12:43] <frimend> I have found music that I like, and it says it's free and for downloading, but I don't know how to do it.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  that dosent explain why booting a live cd, and chrooting in - dident fix it however..
[12:43] <frimend> I have found some third party programs, but they are for windows... :(
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:   or a command like this from a ubuntu live cd --> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint  /dev/sda --recheck
[12:44] <frimend> this is the song I am looking to download: http://www.myspace.com/yademusic/music/songs/hunter-6883715
[12:44] <Temar> can i like change it bk and not use grub
[12:44] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: That is correct. It's a mystery.
[12:44] <sacarlson> temar: to mount a partition should be as easy as:  sudo mkdir /mnt; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  and so on
[12:44] <Incarus6> frimend, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/ "For instance, if you go to a YouTube page, you'll be able to download the video directly on your file system. It also works with MySpace [...] and others."
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  Unless some how the drives where getting 'reordered' depending on what you were booting from. Ive seen some odd bioos's that do that.
[12:45] <Daghdha> I was thinking for a minute maybe ubu was grub1 and i was putting up grub2 all the time
[12:45] <Daghdha> But that'snot it
[12:45] <shooood> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[12:45] <shooood>         Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device 7128
[12:45] <shooood>         Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
[12:45] <shooood>         Memory at 94600000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
[12:45] <shooood>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[12:45] <shooood>         Kernel driver in use: ath5k
[12:45] <FloodBot2> shooood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  grub1 is basically dead.  :) its called 'grub-legacy' now.
[12:45] <sacarlson> Temar: opps forgot the sudo in mount also
[12:45] <Daghdha> I liked LiLo
[12:45] <Daghdha> It had a cute name.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  lilo had issues.. :)
[12:45] <Daghdha> Objective achieved though. i now have 2 HDD's
[12:45] <Daghdha> Yes, grub2 worked fine for me o_O
[12:46] <shooood> http://paste.ubuntu.com/563390/plain/
[12:46] <shooood> any help
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  you could even isntall grub to both hd's and boot either one to get to the same OS.. as a 'rescue' method.
[12:46] <Daghdha> Well, God may know what it was.
[12:46] <Daghdha> no they are not in the machien at the same time Dr_Willis. One is a backup.
[12:46] <Daghdha> I made a backup and this was the test to see if i could get it to restore and work on a new HDD
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  backups? we dont need no stinking backups! :)
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> compare the 2 disks drive layut and uuid's perhaps.. that might also be an issue.
[12:47] <Daghdha> I prefer not to spend days setting up simple things
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> ive rarely transfered a system from one hd to another..
[12:47] <gerber>     how to add video to ipod touch
[12:47] <Daghdha> I will just rely on super grub
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> if the UUID;s were differnt btween backup and original - that could explain a lot.
[12:48] <Daghdha> regrubbing won't fix that?
[12:48] <gerber>     how to add video to ipod touch
[12:48] <Daghdha> They were diff drives so probably uuid is diff.. that's kind of the point of a uuid
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:   depends on how you clone the hd.  UUID is also listed/used in fstab..
[12:49] <shooood> hi, any help with this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/563390/plain/
[12:49] <Daghdha> partimage
[12:49] <gerber>     how to add video to ipod touch
[12:49] <Daghdha> i made an image of the partition. Not the disk
[12:49] <Daghdha> i also did sfdisk for the partision info and wrote the MBR back using dd
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> in that case the uuid's would be differnt i belive
[12:50] <Incarus6> shooood, can you send a valid URL?
[12:50] <gerber>     how to add video to ipod touch
[12:50] <pylix> my boot failed again
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> in the past - i would dd  hd#1 to hd #2 - THEN use gparted to resize the  clone to use the rest of the space.
[12:50] <shooood> incarus6 : i'll try
[12:50] <gerber>     how to add video to ipod touch
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  if you were not carefull with the mbr/dd command - you could have put the wrong partition information on the hd. but ive rarely used dd to backup.restore the mbr.
[12:51] <gerber>     how to add video to ipod touch
[12:51] <Daghdha> I copied it all of a webpage describing each step (iirc it was the partimage website)
[12:51] <shooood> incarus6: i'll tell u what is going on
[12:51] <Incarus6> gerber, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[12:52] <Incarus6> shooood, http://pastebin.com/
[12:52] <shooood> inacrus6: my wireless connection need to be configured and i don't know how
[12:52] <TTY9> !restore
[12:53] <accel> is there a linux app that can take remap the right channel to both left & right channels ? i.e. i'm on ubuntu, playing a flash video, but only the right channel has sound
[12:53] <Daghdha> /media/data are temp mountpoints or persistent?
[12:53] <shooood> incarus6: my wireless card is atheros
[12:53] <pylix> this is the info for my windows OS on grub
[12:53] <pylix> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333037/
[12:53] <pylix> it's not booting :(
[12:54] <pylix> that's the grub entry anyway
[12:54] <sacarlson> shooood: as far as I know atheros works out of the box so try the command iwconfig
[12:54] <shooood> http://pastebin.com/2LSAz3iJ
[12:55] <sacarlson> shooood: so what does iwconfig show us?
[12:55] <TTY9> is amanda is gui client for linux ?
[12:55] <vlrk1> i have ubuntu Ubuntu 10.10 “Maverick Meerkat” For i386 DVD with me...
[12:55] <shooood> sacarlson:  http://pastebin.com/pyFJ83jn
[12:56] <vlrk1> is this a server / desktop version wherer a normal user can operate
[12:56] <sacarlson> shooood: ok and what about the command ifconfig
[12:56] <vlrk1> iam looking out for the desktop based ubuntu where startx would be running ,
[12:57] <shooood> sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/2bwFtxxz
[12:57] <vlrk1> i know feodra but not ubuntu this is my first attempt of knowing it .. can any body share some info with me regarding this
[12:58] <sacarlson> shooood: apears to be working you sure you didn't try the network-manager icon on the top pannel?
[12:58] <shooood> sacarlson: i did but i didn't know what to type in the empty items
[12:58] <th_> argh. how do i stop ubuntu starting the ssh server at boot? i want to launch i manually when needed
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> th_:  rename the /etc/init/ssh.conf file to be somthing like ssh.DONTRUN
[12:59] <sacarlson> shooood: well lets try the command sudo iwlist scanning
[12:59] <shooood> sacarlson: ssid , bssid, device mac address, cloned mac address ??
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> th_:  or edit the contents of the file
[12:59] <th_> Dr_Willis, then it uses default conf?
[13:00] <Temar> wats best way to setup raid 1 (before install)
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> th_:  the ssh.conf is for when it runs the service and when it dosent..
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> th_:  its not a ssh setting file.. its a upstart config file
[13:00] <th_> Dr_Willis, aah sorry. you are right
[13:01] <nickGGG> Hi. i need to extract a tar.gz in /opt but it says no such directory. can some1 help me ?
[13:01] <th_> Dr_Willis, "init". what does this mean? "start on filesystem"
[13:01] <Anmol> help
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> nickGGG:  make the directory first.
[13:01] <Anmol> #help
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> !upstart | th_
[13:01] <th_> it starts when the filesystem is mounted?
[13:01] <shooood> sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/mTWq9yZG
[13:01] <jrib> nickGGG: tar.gz of what?
[13:01] <nickGGG> Dr_Willis, but its made. there is opt in the home folder
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> th_:  all i ever do is disable services or enable them. i rarely edit the upstart configs
[13:02] <AbhijiT> !ask | Anmol
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> nickGGG:  /opt is NOT the same as /home/yourusername/opt
[13:02] <th_> Dr_Willis, yes but something forces the server up
[13:02] <nickGGG> Dr_Willis, i mean its in "file system"
[13:02] <TTY9> !tar
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> nickGGG:  you are using sudo as needed to get root rights to put things in /opt/ ?
[13:02] <jrib> Dr_Willis: the issue with renaming instead of editing the file is that you can't start it later if you want
[13:03] <nickGGG> Dr_Willis, yes
[13:03] <sacarlson> shooood: ok so witch of those 2 networks do you want to connect and know the passcodes for?  ESSID:"EchoLife_BM626_80462b"  or   ESSID:"mmmm"
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> nickGGG:  so you  'cd /opt' and you are in opt.. then you extract the archive? and get an error?
[13:04] <th_> Dr_Willis, you sure the server works as usual if wihtout that conf?
[13:04] <rsv> sacarlson: i checked it. for some reason the acer laptop is not displaying when i do lshw
[13:04] <shooood> sacarlson : hold on i don't understand
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> th_:   that conf being renamed would make sthe server not start..
[13:04] <rsv> sacarlson: is there a way to find out?
[13:04] <sacarlson> rsv: did you try bios and rfkill ?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> make the service not start. :)
[13:04] <nickGGG> Dr_Willis, no. the archive is on the desktop and i need to extract it in /opt
[13:04] <shooood> sacarlson: ah echolife
[13:05] <rsv> sacarlson: i dont understand what you are saying
[13:05] <th_> Dr_Willis, i meant if i launch it manually
[13:05] <sacarlson> shooood: ok find the codes for that and fill it the boxes
[13:05] <jrib> th_: for ssh just do « sudo touch /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run » and ssh will not be started at boot
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> th_:  i never do it that way. You will have to try it and see.
[13:05] <shooood> sacarlson: how ???
[13:05] <sacarlson> rsv: install apt-get install rfkill
[13:06] <th_> jrib, hmm don't think thats going to work. i want to launch it manually
[13:06] <nickGGG> jrib, im trying to install xampp for linux
[13:07] <jrib> th_: although note from reading /etc/init/ssh.conf that won't let you start ssh through the script anyway :)  So try and make sure.  And if that's the case then just add "never" as a starting condition (i.e. change "start on filesystem" to "start on never and filesystem"
[13:07] <jrib> !lamp | nickGGG
[13:07] <sacarlson> shooood: I don't know I don't use encyption or network-manager, but you should just fill in the essid with the full name and the passcode hex number if you know them,  if you don't know the codes forget it
[13:07] <rsv> sacarlson: i installed it. and when i run lshw. i dont see my wifi card details
[13:08] <shooood> sacarlson : of course i know the password cause it's my router
[13:08] <sacarlson> rsv: ok run rfkill list
[13:08] <th_> jrib, just renamed /etc/init/ssh.conf
[13:08] <jrib> th_: this won't allow you to use the upstart job to start ssh later though :/
[13:09] <sacarlson> rsv: yes I understand you don't see your card in lshw I got that already
[13:09] <shooood> sacarlson : just tell me what to do in the device mac address and cloned mac address  i didn't find them in the router page
[13:09] <sacarlson> shooood: well there should be those two boxes to fill out then hit the connect
[13:09] <rsv> sacarlson: i see only bluetooth list and it says hard blocked: no and soft blocked:no
[13:09] <sacarlson> shooood: forget the mac address that's auto
[13:09] <droopal> Just wondered, if anybody could tell me what causes error message 'unable to mount, not authorised' when mounting usb stick or external dvd rewriter. Since upgrading to ubuntu 10.10 on netbook, cant use usb or dvd rewritter. can somebody help, or point me in the direction of somebody that can. Thanks.
[13:10] <shooood> sacarlson: what about bssid ??
[13:10] <th_> jrib, i renamed it back and added that never. think thats going ot work?
[13:10] <jrib> th_: should work
[13:10] <sacarlson> rsv: do you understand what boot into bios means?
[13:10] <th_> jrib, thanks
[13:10] <JunkyJames> hey i have ubuntu server 10.10 and i need to run 2 things on boot that never stop, any help?
[13:10] <rsv> sacarlson: i dont know
[13:11] <nimrod10> JunkyJames, what do you mean that never stop ?
[13:11] <sacarlson> rsv: well look at this http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000192.htm  and when you figure that out then look for the device with wifi make sure it's active
[13:12] <JunkyJames> nimrod10: one is minecraft server java file
[13:12] <menewbe> Isomebody gave me a dell poweredge 1850 server, it contains an intel 2.8GHz 800fsb xeon processor L2 2mb. I was wondering if this processor supports 64bit ubuntu server edition?
[13:12] <menewbe> how to find out?
[13:12] <JunkyJames> nimron10: the other is a php file that loops and does stuff
[13:12] <jrib> th_: might need parentheses after "start on" actually
[13:13] <nimrod10> JunkyJames, and you want them to start automatically ?
[13:13] <nimrod10> at boot ? JunkyJames
[13:13] <JunkyJames> nimrod10: yeah exactly
[13:13] <sacarlson> rsv: oh maybe there is an external switch near your keyboard for the wifi?  try pulse that also if you can,  see if an led indicator changes
[13:14] <m3asmi> how can I execute python script from apache
[13:14] <splashote1> hi, how can i free space on "/" ? I can't log in and df -h showed that / is 100% used
[13:14] <nodestep_> how do i reboot to root shell
[13:14] <nimrod10> JunkyJames, check out the documentation for   upstart scripts , create two upstart scripts for each of them and that is it
[13:14] <jrib> nodestep_: why?
[13:14] <nodestep_> jrib: i forgot my password on an old box
[13:14] <JunkyJames> nimrod10: ok thanks
[13:15] <jrib> splashote1: log in at a tty and do « sudo apt-get clean » to free up some space so you can log in (and then free up more space)
[13:15] <jrib> nodestep_: choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[13:15] <nodestep_> m3asmi: that is an apache question, there are very high quality python webservers and frameworks. Apache mod_wsgi
[13:16] <nodestep_> jrib: yes how do i get to grub? I didn't know it was installed if you just installed one distro
[13:16] <daniele> ciao
[13:16] <sunil> Hello...
[13:16] <sacarlson> nodestep_: I think it's like hold shift at boot until you get grub menu pic rescue or single user mode boot,  I forget the entry name
[13:16] <nodestep_> like with memtest
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> hold shift.. or tap shift like a tapdancer as it boots
[13:16] <Temar> ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:17] <sacarlson> nodestep_: not memtest but another entry
[13:17] <nodestep_> himik:  sunil
[13:17] <menewbe> there is nothing on the server and I'd like to know before installing anything
[13:17] <sacarlson> Temar: good for you
[13:17] <m3asmi> nodestep_: can you give me a web site
[13:17] <Temar> u disabled raid support on mother board
[13:17] <Temar> i*
[13:18] <sacarlson> Temar: oh hardware raid
[13:18] <daniele> ciao
[13:18] <Temar> i was doing software
[13:18] <daniele> stronzi
[13:18] <nodestep_> m3asmi: depends what you want to do with the script? Are you trying to make a website in Python?
[13:18] <rsv> sacarlson: i booted into bios. i see only a network boot option and it is disabled. i dont think it is bios thing since when it boots into windows wifi works
[13:18] <Temar> but disableing it there seems to have fixed it
[13:18] <splashote1> jrib: i did clean, autoclean and autoremove.. still can't log in
[13:18] <jrib> splashote1: well how much space do you have?
[13:18] <splashote1> jrib / is 13 GB
[13:19] <sacarlson> rsv: look for build in devices
[13:19] <jrib> sacarlson: I mean free space
[13:19] <rsv> sacarlson:  i didnt see that option
[13:19] <rsv> sacarlson:  i use a acer 4740 laptop
[13:19] <splashote1> jrib 0, 100% used
[13:20] <sacarlson> rsv: browse around in the windows you should see something like built in stuf
[13:20] <splashote1> jrib can i delete the staff in /var/backup ?
[13:20] <Temar> now sleep !! wats left of it (4 hours)
[13:20] <rsv> i didnt see that. i did see only the boot options and it had network boot, sata boot and so on
[13:20] <sacarlson> rsv: like onboard devices
[13:21] <rsv> sacarlson: i didnt see that i will check again
[13:21] <jrib> splashote1: I don't know.  But if I were you, I'd either start uninstalling things or removing stuff I don't need from my /home
[13:21] <rsv> sacarlson: it doesnt have a onboard devices options
[13:21] <vlrk1> which one will give me ubuntu desktop is it ubuntu server or ubuntu enterprise cloud
[13:21] <sacarlson> rsv: each bios is different so can't help you here
[13:21] <wingnut2626> hey i want to install the pulseaudio equalizer.  How do i do this?
[13:21] <splashote1> jrib home is seperated (encrypted) so it doesn't help me to free space there
[13:21] <sacarlson> rsv: well what does it have?
[13:21] <rsv> sacarlson: i dont think bios is turning off wifi. since it works on wifi
[13:21] <vlrk1> iam installing ubuntu first time in my system using virtuabl box host is windows
[13:22] <rsv> i mean wifi on windows works
[13:22] <vlrk1> can any body help me here
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> vlrk1:  theres the ubuntu desktop iso file....
[13:22] <ranjan> vlrk1, start installing
[13:22] <vlrk1> which one..
[13:22] <rsv> sacarlson: ill check
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> !desktop
[13:22] <vlrk1> i have currently 6 options in my screen
[13:22] <sacarlson> rsv: ya I don't understand that,
[13:23] <vlrk1> like 1. Install ubuntu server
[13:23] <ranjan> vlrk1, you will get Ubuntu Desktop Edition from http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> vlrk1:  what are you even booting up exactly?
[13:24] <vlrk1> let me explain a bit more on my requirement ... iam having windows xp and virtualbox in it and i have bootable ubuntu 10.10 dvd
[13:24] <vlrk1> now trying get a ubuntu on to my system..
[13:25] <ranjan> vlrk1, then you can use it for installation
[13:25] <jrib> splashote1: well other than uninstalling things, you can try to find if there is a main cause for the lack of space (like an out of control log file for example)
[13:25] <vlrk1> ranjan: iam new bie for this .. ubuntu
[13:25] <vlrk1> this is my first attempt to do that
[13:25] <vlrk1> please help ..
[13:25] <ranjan> vlrk1, dont worry we are here for helo
[13:25] <vlrk1> which option do i need to choose
[13:25] <ranjan> help
[13:25] <splashote1> jrib i tried to find out and removed the stuff in /var/log
[13:25] <ranjan> are you new to virtual box too?
[13:25] <vlrk1> like ubuntu server or
[13:25] <vlrk1> yes..
[13:25] <m3asmi> Dr_Willis:have you any Idea to execute python script in apache
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> vlrk1:  there was no need to use the dvd.. the ubuntu-desktop.iso would been a smaller download.
[13:25] <wingnut2626> does anyone know any audio equilizers for ubuntu and how to install them?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> m3asmi:  nope.
[13:26] <ranjan> vlrk1, open up Oracle Virtual Box
[13:26] <bc81> hi ⥏❨◉.◉❩⥑
[13:26] <m3asmi> Dr_Willis:thinks ;)
[13:26] <redhot> !partition
[13:26] <vlrk1> i have created ubuntu guest
[13:26] <ranjan> vlrk1, did you start it?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> wingnut2626:  ive seen some mentioned at the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites (not in the repos)  I dont know of any that are in the repos
[13:26] <DarkStar1> Is there an equivalent to MS paint for Mac?
[13:26] <vlrk1> and now ..i started it by using dvd i have
[13:26] <DarkStar1> oops wrong channel
[13:26] <ranjan> vlrk1, ok now what do you see?
[13:27] <ExTrUsiOn> which is the channel for kubuntu guys
[13:27] <vlrk1> it started booting with that
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> ExTrUsiOn:  #kubuntu
[13:27] <ranjan> vlrk1, are you on the live desktop now?
[13:27] <vlrk1> no i guess..
[13:27] <ranjan> vlrk1, i mean did the DVD take you to the desktop instance of Ubuntu?
[13:27] <johnn> On which file I have to write an entry for compiz to be the default window manager on 10.04?
[13:27] <ranjan> vlrk1, or its still in the boot process/
[13:27] <vlrk1> it shows me 6 options like
[13:27] <ExTrUsiOn> will be get ubuntu help here or any other ubuntu channel as in case of mint
[13:27] <vlrk1> install ubuntu server
[13:28] <vlrk1> 2. ubuntu enterprise cloud
[13:28] <vlrk1> 3.check disk for details
[13:28] <vlrk1> 4.test memory
[13:28] <ranjan> vlrk1, that means you are using a server edition disk
[13:28] <dnivra> !mint | ExTrUsiOn
[13:28] <vlrk1> boot from hard disk
[13:28] <vlrk1> ok..
[13:28] <ranjan> vlrk1, its not meant for desktop use,
[13:28] <ExTrUsiOn> ok
[13:28] <vlrk1> so this does not work for me..
[13:28] <vlrk1> ok thanks ranjan..
[13:28] <ExTrUsiOn> but can u tell me where will i get ubuntu help
[13:28] <ExTrUsiOn> as i want to install macbuntu
[13:28] <vlrk1> i  need to download desktop .iso
[13:28] <ExTrUsiOn> in it
[13:28] <ranjan> vlrk1, it will work for you but you wont get a graphical desktop
[13:29] <dnivra> ExTrUsiOn, this is ubuntu support.
[13:29] <ranjan> vlrk1,
[13:29] <ExTrUsiOn> ranjan r u from india
[13:29] <ranjan> vlrk1, yes exactly
[13:29] <ExTrUsiOn> me too
[13:29] <ranjan> ExTrUsiOn,yes
[13:29] <ranjan> ExTrUsiOn, where are you from?
[13:29] <ExTrUsiOn> rajasthan
[13:29] <ExTrUsiOn> u??
[13:29] <johnn> Hi, on Lucid Lynx which is the file for specifying the default window manager?
[13:29] <ExTrUsiOn> are u moderator here??
[13:29] <mcl0vin> what is userspace command line program please?
[13:29] <vlrk1> would picking server option works for me..
[13:30] <vlrk1> i.e no desktop
[13:30] <vlrk1> but i would get terminal
[13:30] <vlrk1> i mean shell where i can run linux programs and
[13:30] <scotty^> johnn - I think you choose it at the bottom of the screen before you login
[13:30] <ranjan> ExTrUsiOn, i am from kerala
[13:30] <ExTrUsiOn> ohk
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> vlrk1:  if you just want a terminal/servery type install.. yes
[13:30] <ranjan> vlrk1, yes you will get a terminal
[13:30] <vlrk1> see some of opensources is it works in that..
[13:30] <ExTrUsiOn> are you moderator here
[13:30] <johnn> I have no such an option anymore..
[13:31] <dnivra> johnn, System -> Administration -> Login Screen. You can select default session there.
[13:31] <ranjan> vlrk1, if you are comfortable with terminal then you can continue with the installation
[13:31] <dnivra> ranjan, may I PM you?
[13:31] <ranjan> dnivra, ok
[13:31] <vlrk1> last time when i tried with vmware
[13:31] <vlrk1> i did not got standard packages
[13:31] <vlrk1> like glib
[13:31] <vlrk1> or gcc
[13:31] <johnn> There is selected gnome
[13:31] <vlrk1> where i cannot compile a c program
[13:31] <vlrk1> and run it
[13:31] <johnn> but when I reboot I have no option on login screen
[13:32] <vlrk1> will this time will also be same..
[13:32] <scotty^> hmm
[13:32] <johnn> and it uses metacity as default window manager
[13:32] <johnn> I have to turn on the visual effects manually in order to use compiz
[13:32] <johnn> every time I logon
[13:33] <Fidelix> Is it possible to install VMware on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[13:33] <johnn> and I cannot save this settings anyway
[13:33] <scotty^> john - maybe try what dnivra said then.  That's probably closer to your original question, too.
[13:33] <dnivra> !vmware | Fidelix
[13:34] <Fidelix> dnivra, these instructions do not work.
[13:34] <johnn> I tried that and gnome is selected
[13:34] <luca__> buon pomeriggio ho un problema  con ubuntu 10.10 dopo aver effettuato gli ultimi aggiornamente una settimana fa
[13:34] <dnivra> Fidelix, then I have no clue. sorry.
[13:34] <LjL> !it | luca__
[13:34] <johnn> I have to enetr an entry "export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/compiz" in a file
[13:34] <johnn> which is that file?
[13:35] <johnn> That configures the logon session on 10.04?
[13:36] <splashote1> jrib in /media were 4GB lying around... now it's alright again
[13:36] <splashote1> jrib thanks for your hints!
[13:37] <bibic682> Hello, Has anyone ever tried and was successful in setting up an All in Wonder 9000 video card with the tv tuner WORKING ??
[13:37] <timeco> hi all any1 here got experience on getting babachess run on unbuntu 10 . 4 lts ?
[13:37] <onebitxajax> hi to all
[13:38] <onebitxajax> I have a fresh 10.10 install i macke sudo apt-get dist-upgrade OR sudto apt-get upgrade the 2 give me a lot of updates
[13:38] <johnn> anyone please?
[13:41] <bc81> johnn: no idea, maybe create a startup application of compiz --replace?
[13:41] <johnn> Is there any configuration file in 10.04?
[13:41] <johnn> for the login sesion?
[13:42] <lamefun> is Unity based on compiz 0.8 or 0.9?
[13:42] <xiq> 0.9 i think
[13:43] <bibic682> Radeon 9000 TV Tuner in Ubuntu.....anyone successful ?
[13:43] <xiq> i hate it when theres like 100 idle people
[13:43] <AbhijiT> lamefun, #ubuntu+1
[13:44] <AbhijiT> xiq, then you quit? it will become 99 then?
[13:44] <xiq> but.. i'm not an idler o.O
[13:45] <devkorcvince> help cant access ubuntu forums I'm installing samsung mfp 560 laser printer... i cant print it says the scheduler could not execute a filter
[13:45] <dnivra> AbhijiT, isn't #ubuntu+1 for natty and not unity?
[13:46] <icedtea> is there a ubuntu "unstable" tree, like debian?
[13:46] <AbhijiT> dnivra, is unity in lucid or before maverik? no? is unity in natty? yes? then by using <anycomplexscientific> law we can easily state that in taht channel the chanses are more the get info on unity
[13:46] <AbhijiT> what do you think?
[13:46] <xiq> i bet
[13:47] <dnivra> AbhijiT, unity is there in the repositories. and you go ask a support question in #ubuntu+1, sounds kind of odd.
[13:47] <AbhijiT> dnivra, then you dont go? so simple
[13:47] <xiq> hey i only have one partition, it's 2Terabyte. 500gig is full and i don't wanna loose it, is there some way to still install a distro?
[13:48] <xiq> *without the ont top of windows installation
[13:49] <dnivra> AbhijiT, then where do I ask about unity if I want to? ahh forget it. that question's been answered anyway.
[13:49] <ApacheOmega> good morning everybody
[13:49] <AbhijiT> dnivra, ask here first
[13:49] <ApacheOmega> I think I made a foolish mistake
[13:49] <ApacheOmega> Does anybody know what prewikka is???
[13:50] <johnn> Which is the appropriate file for this entry "export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/compiz"?
[13:50] <vish> johnn: why are you trying that?
[13:50] <bc81> !anyone | ApacheOmega
[13:50] <johnn> Because starts with metacity and I want compiz
[13:51] <vish> johnn: have you tried removing your saved session? and logging in?
[13:51] <johnn> I can set it but every time I reboot falls back on metacity
[13:51] <johnn> How to remove?
[13:51] <ApacheOmega> I wasnt paying attention and this prewikka program was trying to link to mysql i wasnt paying attention but can some body tell me what this is?
[13:52] <johnn> How could I remove the saved session?
[13:52] <vish> johnn: remove from  ~/.gnome2/session
[13:53] <johnn> there is no session folder on .gnome2
[13:53] <ApacheOmega> Ok what is Gforge
[13:53] <kernelrain> hello
[13:53] <vish> johnn: make you you have turned off the automatic session save and after you have removed that folder, login and check
[13:54] <integer> ok
[13:54] <Helbom> i enabled my second monitor, but when i click "Save to X configuration file" i get an error "Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!"
[13:55] <johnn> Where I can turn on or off the automatic session?
[13:56] <icedtea> does ubuntu have an "unstable" or experimental distro later than 10.10?
[13:56] <ApacheOmega> Ok should I be using MySql with prewikka and can sombody help me with the configuration
[13:56] <AbhijiT> !11.04 | icedtea
[13:56] <icedtea> ty
[13:57] <ApacheOmega> or should I by using pg sql
[13:57] <ApacheOmega> I meant pgsql
[13:59] <ranjan> vlrk1, hey what about the installation?>
[13:59] <ranjan> did you complete the installation?
[14:00] <stanman246> if i run chdsk i get: segementation fault. What's that?
[14:03] <bc81> stanman246: what is chdsk
[14:03] <Kre10s> hey! I need to know the make/model of my dvd player... how can I find this out?
[14:03] <stanman246> chkdsk...
[14:03] <stanman246> sry
[14:03] <debd> open up ur cd\dvd player
[14:04] <debd> :)
[14:04] <bc81> stanman246: man fsck
[14:05] <stanman246> yeah, i'm downing a livecd now to boot from. This all happened after a power failure :)
[14:05] <stanman246> :(
[14:05] <erus_> I'm having trouble using my tenda w322p card on maverick
[14:05] <stanman246> i mean...
[14:05] <stanman246> i get red dots all over the desktop as well now...
[14:05] <bc81> stanman246: that sounds really bad
[14:06] <stanman246> bc81, it feels bad as well :(
[14:06] <Kre10s> lshw !
[14:06] <stanman246> hope i can get my data from /home back....
[14:06] <csb> рш
[14:06] <Kre10s> lol. are you homeless?
[14:06] <bc81> stanman246: you got your computer plugged straight into the wall outlet, or into a surge protector?
[14:06] <stanman246> wall outlet
[14:07] <TTY9> i want to create a iso file of my system backup
[14:07] <stanman246> i'm glad it's not a 'mission critical'  machine...
[14:07] <bc81> stanman246: that's not good at all..get a good surge protector man
[14:08] <stanman246> well, i'm gonna......
[14:08] <bc81> lol
[14:08] <stanman246> some guy drilled a hole in an electrical line...
[14:10] <brverg> my flash player crashes whenever i'm on youtube with more than three (3) tabs opened. i have updated my system.
[14:10] <kblin> hi folks
[14:11] <kexcaliber380864> how to register nickname
[14:11] <bc81> howdy kblin
[14:11] <brverg> can anyone please assist me... it's very annoying to have the flash player crash when you r watching your fav videos in youtube
[14:11] <Somelauw> I can't get bluetooth to work. (It used to work before)
[14:12] <kexcaliber380864> how to register nickname
[14:12] <kblin> I'm trying to install ubuntu-server on an old laptop. unfortunately the cd drive is shot and the bios won't boot from USB. I was considering using debootstrap from my PC to the laptop's hdd via USB, but the manpage seems to imply that's arch-dependent
[14:12] <kblin> kexcaliber380864: /msg nickserv help
[14:13] <AbhijiT> !register | kexcaliber380864
[14:13] <bc81> brverg: what do you have installed in the way of flash?
[14:13] <kblin> anyway, I seem to recall that using debootstrap to set up 32bit chroots from a 64bit host did work
[14:14] <TTY9> how can i see the ban list of the channel
[14:14] <bc81> kblin: can your BIOS do PXE boot?
[14:15] <serve> [35378.573368] php4[3403]: segfault at 18 ip 000000000056326a sp 00007fff0518e2c0 error 4 in php4[400000+2e6000]
[14:15] <serve> does any body know about aobut that error ?
[14:15] <kblin> bc81: possibly, haven't tried
[14:16] <bc81> kblin: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[14:16] <kblin> good point, though
[14:17] <kblin> bc81: hm, then again my DHCP is served by the wireless AP, which doesn't do bootp
[14:17]  * kblin goes to grab his new laptop
[14:19] <bc81> kblin: actually, this might be more appropriate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[14:19] <bc81> kblin: of even this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot lol
[14:21] <Kre10s> Is there a software for reading device firmware?
[14:21] <Kre10s> and flashing it back?
[14:21] <stanislav> привет всем! как скомпилировать программу из исходников?
[14:21] <kblin> bc81: ah, I looked at the NetbootInternet tutorial, which assumes you already have a running GRUB install
[14:22] <bc81> !ru | stanislav
[14:22] <siavashserver> hi. can someone please mirror this theme for me, deviantart is filtered here :( http://ebupof.deviantart.com/art/Fundamental-Round-2-2-178964808
[14:22] <sacarlson> kblin: there is also this bootloader called plop that can enable you to boot from a usb
[14:23] <cousin_mario> help
[14:23] <cousin_mario> my desktop is going nuts!
[14:23] <janet> hi there. not too knowledgable about apt-get and need to get libimobiledevice 1.0.4 onto ubuntu 10.04 to be able to talk to my iphone - synaptics tells me i am up to date with version 1.0.1. best way to get this package upgraded beyond simply over-copying the binary?
[14:23] <cousin_mario> it acts like the left mousebutton was always kept pressed
[14:23] <sacarlson> kblin: I'm not sure what you already have installed on it but it might work http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html
[14:24] <georgie_b> hello
[14:24] <fedekun> Hello, can someone help me with a webcam issue?
[14:24] <georgie_b> can some one help me with gvim
[14:24] <georgie_b> how to paste into gvim with text copied from firefox?
[14:25] <georgie_b> ne body there?
[14:25] <georgie_b> how to paste into gvim with text copied from firefox?
[14:25] <dirtyqwerty> !ask | georgie_b fedekun
[14:25] <bc81> siavashserver: see my pm
[14:25] <d4n1s> hi
[14:25] <d4n1s> I need some help
[14:25] <georgie_b> how to paste into gvim with text copied from firefox?
[14:25] <snowrichard> georgie_b, type o or i to get into insert mode, then select paste from terminal edit menu
[14:26] <cousin_mario> uh oh, it looks like it's a hardware problem
[14:26] <cousin_mario> bbl
[14:26] <fedekun> I have an integrated webcam on this netbook, but cheese doent recognize it, and i do lsusb but it doesnt show the cam...
[14:26] <georgie_b> what does the keymapping "+gP mean in gvim?
[14:27] <d4n1s> how can I install a file with name libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[14:27] <georgie_b> mr.snow richard how to paste into gvim with text copied from firefox?
[14:27] <BlueEagle> janet: You may need to !compile the package if you cannot find suitable !packages
[14:27] <snowrichard> i told you
[14:27] <georgie_b> didnt work
[14:27] <d4n1s> anyone know?
[14:27] <abhijit> :o
[14:27] <d4n1s> I have a file name libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 its a strange extension how can I install it?
[14:28] <georgie_b> what does the keymapping "+gP mean in gvim?
[14:28] <janet> BlueEagle: tell u wot, i'm going to try adding this site to my sources:  https://launchpad.net/~pmcenery/+archive/ppa; there appears to be a pre-compiled version there
[14:28] <d4n1s> Is this is the ubuntu's help channel?
[14:28] <BlueEagle> janet: If you find a .deb there then you can install that with any package manager.
[14:29] <rigved> d4n1s: yes. do you have a question?
[14:29] <far_> need help with locale cannot find charmap /usr/share/i18n
[14:29] <d4n1s> rigved yes, I have a file named libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 and I am supposed to install it on my ubuntu, but I dont know how
[14:29] <rigved> d4n1s: ok. just saw you question posted earlier. no you cannot install this file
[14:30] <rigved> d4n1s: you need to copy and paste this file in the proper place
[14:30] <d4n1s> But in the read me of a source code I am trying to compile says I need to install it
[14:30] <BlueEagle> d4n1s: Files named *.so* in linux are "Shared Object" files. They are akin to the .dll files found in Windows. You would most likely want to search for a .deb that provides the relevant .so-file.
[14:31] <chouchou> hello, I have been told ubuntu does not support webmim,
[14:31] <rigved> d4n1s: did you get a make file (Makefile) with the source code?
[14:31] <chouchou> is there any accepted alternative ?
[14:31] <d4n1s> yes
[14:31] <jrib> geor
[14:31] <d4n1s> I know that I have to do cd  and make but I am getting compile errors
[14:31] <charas> Can anyone help me with this problem? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4913561/how-to-reset-virtualenv-and-pep
[14:31] <piotrek> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is in libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[14:31] <rigved> !webmin | chouchou
[14:32] <sacarlson> d4n1s: what app are you compiling that needs it?
[14:32] <georgie_b> what does the keymapping "+gP mean in gvim?
[14:32] <d4n1s> linksys wag200g firmware
[14:32] <far_> need help with locale cannot find charmap dir - /usr/share/i18n
[14:32] <chouchou> rigveg, what alternative do we have?
[14:32] <rigved> d4n1s: can you pastebin the compile errors?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:32] <jrib> georgie_b: "+ refers to your clipboard, gP pastes
[14:33] <Kre10s> wouldn't compiling linksys firmware mean cross compiling...
[14:33] <d4n1s> rigved I guess they are more than the errors on the last line of my terminal, how can I log while I "make"
[14:33] <georgie_b> jrib does " mean quote or some other key like ctrl of shift..
[14:34] <jrib> georgie_b: " means the " button (quote)
[14:34] <georgie_b> i tried holding all the four keys ",+,g and P together to paste ,, nothin  happened
[14:34] <rigved> !info zentyal | chouchou
[14:35] <jrib> georgie_b: press one at a time...
[14:35] <jrib> georgie_b: why are you using vim?
[14:35] <chouchou> ...?
[14:35] <rigved> !info ebox | chouchou
[14:35] <georgie_b> but if i go to the gvim menu by alt+e and press p then the contents gets pasted
[14:35] <georgie_b> yes
[14:35] <rigved> chouchou: check out this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebMin
[14:36] <chouchou> ok
[14:36] <jrib> georgie_b: why are you using vim and not some other editor you are familiar with?
[14:36] <fedekun> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10433086#post10433086 can someone help me out with that please?
[14:36] <georgie_b> its nice for editin using regular expressions
[14:36] <rigved> chouchou: it says that ebox is the replacement, which has been rename to zentyal
[14:36] <chouchou> ok
[14:36] <jrib> georgie_b: you should run « vimtutor » to get some of the basics down
[14:37] <clarete> oi
[14:37] <mattcodes> finally transitioned to fluxbox, do you think ill have a problem sticking with ubuntu in longterm (i.e. will fluxbox packages be maintained) when they switch attention to unity?
[14:37] <georgie_b> well i've no problem with yankin nd pastin within vim but  from clipboard cant get the pastin right
[14:37] <rigved> d4n1s: run make in the terminal. after you get the errors, just use your mouse to copy the errors and paste it into http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[14:37] <georgie_b> with keyboard shortcuts
[14:38] <mattcodes> i ask not to make a premature shift, but because ill be provisioning a new laptop tomorrow and if 10.10 is end-of-line for other WMs on the ubuntu platform i'll bail now and take a dent to productivity whilst i learn/struggle with archlinux etc..
[14:38] <botcity> hi guys my xchat client will not save my favourite channels! anyone shed light on this ?
[14:39] <jrib> georgie_b: "* is the X clipboard (the one you usually use by highlighting and middle clicking) and "+ is the other clipboard (the one you usually use by ctrl-c and ctrl-v)
[14:39] <georgie_b> got it jrib
[14:39] <thiebaude> 10.10 is supported for 3 yrs, just saying
[14:39] <botcity> georgie_b: have you used vimtutor!
[14:39] <georgie_b> it workd now
[14:39] <georgie_b> thnx
[14:39] <jrib> thiebaude: 10.10 is supported for 18 months, isn't it?
[14:39] <rigved> !maverick | thiebaude
[14:39] <rigved> thiebaude: yes, only 18 months
[14:40] <georgie_b> ya.. but 10.04  is on LTS
[14:40] <rigved> thiebaude: lucid is supported for 3 yrs
[14:40] <ali438> hi
[14:40] <thiebaude> ok thanks i stand corrected guys
[14:41] <j-invariant> why can't ubuntu do japanese filenames in zip files?
[14:41] <j-invariant> I have to unzip it in the terminal to get the thing open at all, and even then it just gives <?><?><?>.mp3
[14:41] <mattcodes> finally transitioned to fluxbox, do you think ill have a problem sticking with ubuntu in longterm (i.e. will fluxbox packages be maintained) when they switch attention to unity?
[14:42] <d4n1s> rigved here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/563434/
[14:42] <mattcodes>  i ask not to make a premature shift, but because ill be provisioning a new laptop tomorrow and if 10.10 is end-of-line for other WMs on the ubuntu platform i'll bail now and take a dent to productivity whilst i learn/struggle with archlinux etc..
[14:42] <Gnea> someone once said that non-LTS released are supported for 1.5 years, but I haven't found a website that backs that up yet - anyone happen to know it?
[14:42] <mattcodes> (if this is dup i apologise, xchat is playing up)
[14:42] <jrib> mattcodes: fluxbox has never been the main WM so I don't see why it would be treated any differently than it is now (of course it will be maintained)
[14:42] <xangua> Gnea: 18 months = 1.5 years, yes
[14:43] <d4n1s> rigved the last 2 lines not appearing in the paste are here http://paste.ubuntu.com/563435/
[14:44] <jrib> Gnea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:44] <thiebaude> so non LTS support for the desktop is 3 yrs?
[14:44] <irenicus09> hi guys I've been having some problem can someone help?
[14:44] <botcity> my xchat client will not save my favourite channels! anyone ?
[14:44] <jrib> thiebaude: no.  18 months.
[14:44] <thiebaude> ok
[14:44] <jrib> irenicus09: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:44] <Gnea> thiebaude: no, 1.5 years for non-LTS. LTS is 3 years on the desktop, 5 years for server.
[14:44] <thiebaude> gnea, i got it now thanks :)
[14:44] <mattcodes> jrib: excellent there seems to be a lot of hype around ubuntu direction, unity is great for the facebook fuckers, but it would nice if they stated full gnome/fluxbox support as to not alienate the dev users
[14:45] <Gnea> thiebaude: cheers
[14:45] <thiebaude> you too :)
[14:45] <thiebaude> Gnea,
[14:45] <mattcodes> heard the other day i wont be able to run gnome with next ubuntu but obviously PR shite - right?
[14:45] <mattcodes> i wont be running gnome anyway but over unity..
[14:46] <irenicus09> I installed ninja &  it's giving some error while installing/uninstalling something
[14:46] <irenicus09> http://pastebin.com/gqT9w0n0
[14:47] <iljo> hello, i have a question
[14:47] <crucialhoax> Why cant I connect to my AP with only 3 bars of reception by my Ipod touch can connect with 2?
[14:47] <rigved> d4n1s: ok. i'm looking over it now
[14:47] <crucialhoax> !ask iljo
[14:47] <crucialhoax> iljo: !ask
[14:48] <iljo> what packagage should i install on my ubuntu 10.10 so i can create mysql databases?
[14:48] <Gnea> mattcodes: well, the nice thing is that Ubuntu is quite modular, so you can set it up to be anything you want it to be on the desktop. As far as pre-packaging goes, certain things are put into place for actual releases, but there's always an alternative and server release which allows you to customize how you want.
[14:48] <yeats> !mysql | iljo
[14:48] <yeats> iljo: mysql-server
[14:48] <jorick> my / was getting full so created a new partition and cp'd /usr to it. then i added a line to fstab to use that partition as /usr. everything works but i forgot to rm /usr from my / and now i can't seem to reach it... what do?
[14:48] <iljo> thank you guys very much
[14:49] <irenicus09> can  someone help me fix this? http://pastebin.com/gqT9w0n0
[14:49] <Gnea> mattcodes: the regular Ubuntu desktop is just the flagship release simply for the fact that it's familiar.
[14:50] <mattcodes> the regular now being gnome
[14:50] <mattcodes> tomorrow being unity
[14:51] <mattcodes> why is the media (to be more precise tech media) being so anal about it then, gnome will get all the updates as will fluxbox etc.. facebook fuckers can have unity and everyone is happy. the annoucement by mark s seems to have relugated ubuntu to newb land by media accounts.
[14:51] <vish> !language | mattcodes
[14:52] <mattcodes> sorry.. facebook fackers
[14:52] <mattcodes> anyway, major PR disaster for an distro that has done so well at prompting linux to the masses
[14:52] <rigved> d4n1s: has your problem been solved?
[14:52] <mattcodes> an --> a
[14:52] <mattcodes> prompting --> promoting
[14:53] <vish> !offtopic | mattcodes
[14:53] <d4n1s> rigved not really, I dont see the image that was supposed to be compiled
[14:53] <chouchou> rigved, zentyal seems not working on ubuntu as many reported, what alternative do you suggest bein stable in ubuntu?
[14:53] <d4n1s> look at the other link with the 3 errors I am getting for no reason
[14:53] <rigved> d4n1s: just before running the make command, did you run ./configure ?
[14:53] <d4n1s> rigved nope...
[14:53] <botcity> crucialhoax: the question you ask is a hardward specific question! to understand more you should look into radio hardware/signals
[14:54] <d4n1s> rigved says no such file or directory
[14:54] <AbhijiT> can we configure free yahoo mail account in evolution? or only paid one?
[14:54] <mattcodes> only paid yahoo have pop3/imap afaik
[14:54] <mattcodes> google mail you can..
[14:54] <AbhijiT> ohgh
[14:54] <AbhijiT> sa
[14:54] <bibic682> Hello,  How would I install xawtv-3.95.tar.gz from desktop?
[14:55] <vish> AbhijiT: if you have yahoo set to india you can activate pop3 ;)
[14:55] <AbhijiT> vish, that for free?
[14:55] <rigved> d4n1s: ok. so this a driver that you are compiling from source?
[14:55] <vish> AbhijiT: yup, its in the locale selection,
[14:55] <bastidrazor> !compile > bibic682
[14:55] <mattcodes> alt+f2. type terminal. enter. then cd Desktop. then tar xvzf xawtv-x.x.x..tar.zg, cd xawt-, then ./configure, then make, then make install - a guess
[14:56] <j-invariant> Hey I can't click on the bit to resize a window in ubuntu any ideas?
[14:56] <j-invariant> its too hrad
[14:56] <AbhijiT> vish, thanks
[14:56] <rigved> chouchou: i don't see any free alternative. there's a paid one - cpanel
[14:56] <d4n1s> rigved short of... its a firmware that controls my router
[14:56] <mads> hi all
[14:56] <bastidrazor> mattcodes: checkinstall may be a better route than make install
[14:56] <v0lksman> so inkscape is busted and un-usable in Maverick, it has been fixed for natty according to the package changelog but I can't install natty's package due to deps...any suggestions?
[14:57] <bibic682> Thanks ubottu  I will check it out
[14:57] <rigved> d4n1s: can you give me the link from where you are reading the instructions for installing?
[14:57] <xiamx> #freebsd
[14:58] <mads> can any body help me, i've dual booted win. 7 and xubuntu 10.10 but i cant get acces to my e:\ drive can any help plz
[14:58] <irenicus09> thnx guys, I helped myself out xD
[14:58] <d4n1s> rigved its a readme in the source code folder here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/563439/
[14:58] <Incarus6> Firefox needs 3 times more ram then running virtualbox with windows 7 enterprise, is that normal?
[14:58] <botcity> j-invariant: its in the ubuntu bugs i think using a different theme may help not sure though!
[14:59] <j-invariant> botcity: ooh I see thanks
[14:59] <j-invariant> I will just suffer until an update I guess?
[15:00] <bastidrazor> j-invariant: or hold alt and middle click
[15:00] <azep> wef
[15:00] <mads> can any body help me, i've dual booted win. 7 and xubuntu 10.10 but i cant get acces to my c:\ drive but not my e:\ drive can any help plz
[15:00] <v0lksman> can't even use lucids version....argg....
[15:00] <botcity> j-invariant: you can use the bottom-right corner!
[15:00] <Irwell> does anyone know how to stop the window manager from closing until all the open windows have closed so you don't get borderless windows on shutdown/restart?
[15:01] <j-invariant> botcity: it's too hard to click it
[15:01] <Gnea> Incarus6: this is what google chrome is for.
[15:01] <Daghdha> Hi, i renamed a folder. but i also have shared this folder. Where can i find the file that contains the share info so i can change the name there too?
[15:02] <rigved> v0lksman: you can install inkscape from the web - http://inkscape.org/download/
[15:02] <yeats> !windows | mads
[15:02] <bibic682> ubottu:  Way more trouble than its worth.....I'm trying to get my radeon 9000 TV tuner to work...any suggestions
[15:02] <rigved> d4n1s: is there a readme file in the source directory?
[15:02] <[wito]> On a more serious note; will a standard ubuntu install automatically detect an SSD drive and adjust its disk writing patterns appropriately?
[15:02] <v0lksman> rigved, compile it myself?
[15:02] <[wito]> ubottu: Looks like you just passed the Turing test. :P
[15:03] <yeats> !test
[15:03] <d4n1s> rigved no there isn't
[15:03] <rigved> v0lksman: yes
[15:03] <bibic682> anyone?
[15:04] <rigved> d4n1s: ok. so you are missing some pre-requisites...they should have been mentioned in the README file, but i'll just give you a list which I got off the net
[15:04] <Skaperen> Is there an "Ubuntu way" to get Xorg to start listening on TCP port 6000 for remote X clients?
[15:04] <Gnea> bibic682: in order to compile software, you need to setup the compile environment in ubuntu. if you consider that to be too much work, then compiling software isn't for you.
[15:04] <Gnea> !info xawtv
[15:05] <Gnea> bibic682: besides, all you need to type is:  sudo apt-get install xawtv   to have it installed instantly
[15:05] <B0o-supermario> !info toilet
[15:05] <rigved> d4n1s: wait...the file in which the instructions are mentioned, does it have a list of pre-requisites?
[15:05] <Skaperen> Gnea: install all the toolchains and all the *-dev packages ... seems simple enough to me
[15:05] <mads> can any body help me, i've dual booted win. 7 and xubuntu 10.10 but i cant get acces to my c:\ drive but not my e:\ drive can any help plz
[15:05] <v0lksman> rigved, not to be rude or anything but I want to draw, not compile software...I would just go with Arch if that was the case...I'm in Ubuntu cause I want the massive repo...but so far Maverick has a lot of dead packages...not cool...
[15:05] <B0o-supermario> !info 42
[15:06] <v0lksman> plus if the package maintainer compiled it with this bug I doubt I'll do much better... :)
[15:06] <Gnea> Skaperen: me too, but some people refuse to grasp the concepts that most linux users have had to embrace just to get something working in the past, most of the time in the 90's
[15:06] <botcity> mads: are you sure you did not install ubuntu to e: if so then you are using it
[15:07] <crucialhoax> botcity: As in what? The laptop should connect with 1 bar should it not?
[15:07] <d4n1s> rigved it is named toolchain its outside the source code folder named code, and it has some rpm files which I turned into deb files and than installed them, the libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 file some files with no extensions and some includes
[15:07] <rigved> v0lksman: why not go with 10.04 (lucid)...it's an LTS so it'll have support for 3 yrs. as compared to the 18 months for maverick
[15:07] <rigved> d4n1s: rpm? how did you convert it to .deb files?
[15:08] <Skaperen> Gnea: oh, you mean back when we had to hunt down, down load, configure, compile, and install, a boat load of projects from all over the net, often hidden away in legacy FTP servers, just to get a working compile?
[15:08] <Daghdha> Why are my samba shares not in my samba config progam?
[15:08] <d4n1s> rigved I think with a software called alien or something, I dont really remember I just googled it.
[15:08] <yeats> !alien
[15:08] <v0lksman> rigved, I just upgraded from 10.04 thanks to a bunch of kernel issues with my hardware (that weren't resolved by upgrading unfortunately)...but a roll back isn't possible so I'm stuck here in Maverick...
[15:08] <Gnea> Skaperen: and that was *IF* they would compile with whatever version of libc we had installed!
[15:09] <Skaperen> Gnea: ah, yes, version combination hell that rivals RPM
[15:09] <Skaperen> Gnea: that and dozens of patch files to make other stuff work right
[15:10] <MrMadsRthomsen> hi all
[15:10] <Gnea> Skaperen: I actually found that RPM only complicated the matter, but they were setting the precedent for package maintenance and streamlining.
[15:10] <bindi> hmm
[15:10] <bindi> !factoids
[15:10] <rigved> v0lksman: hmmm...then i suggest you go with Debian 6.0 (just released today)...you will have comparative lesser hardware problems with it, i think
[15:10] <MrMadsRthomsen> can any hear me
[15:10] <[wito]> MrMadsRthomsen: No, we can't
[15:10] <Gnea> MrMadsRthomsen: no, but I can read what you type.
[15:10] <bibic682> Gnea:  Thanks
[15:11] <Skaperen> Gnea: they tried ... but I still find at times that RPM systems get into a "no way out" package hell pit
[15:11] <Gnea> bibic682: cheers
[15:11] <MrMadsRthomsen> k it was because i was in grey
[15:11] <v0lksman> rigved, yeah...I'm tempted...not very impressed with Ubuntu of late.
[15:12] <Gnea> Skaperen: indeed, particularly on enterprise systems where getting the latest software updates is nearly impossible, save for those that have become deep-sea experts in the subject over the years.
[15:12] <rigved> v0lksman: ubuntu has never caused me any problems...everything just works
[15:12] <Skaperen> so anyone know enough about Xorg, or how Xorg gets launched, to configure it so it listens on TCP port 6000 ?
[15:12] <rigved> :)
[15:13] <v0lksman> rigved, in the past this was the case...7 - 8 years now...but lately it just seems messy/rushed/buggy
[15:14] <MrMadsRthomsen> can any help me i dual booted win.7 and xubuntu, the problem is i can't get aces to my e drive. but i can get aces to my c drive, and when i reboot to win.7 i can get aces to both drivers
[15:14] <Gnea> Skaperen: Ah, another casualty of the evolution of pre-packaged distribution. GDM was recently "upgraded" to GDM2 about a year or two ago in Ubuntu and much of the intricate configuration directives got thrown under the bus.
[15:14] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: can you run gparted and see if it sees the partition
[15:14] <Skaperen> Gnea: that's what I was afraid of
[15:15] <Gnea> Skaperen: however, I believe there's still a way, since it's still built into the basic protocol....
[15:15] <MrMadsRthomsen> where can i get gparted
[15:15] <trinikrono> sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:15] <codemagician> Is it possible to have keyboard shortcuts to toggle workspaces?
[15:15] <Gnea> Skaperen: ah yes, you can use ssh -X to do it securely now
[15:15] <Skaperen> Gnea: yea, the protocols still have it, but getting things to do it with the minimum of hacks is my goal
[15:15] <trinikrono> ctrl + alt + arrows codemagician
[15:16] <codemagician> trinikrono, sure but I mean a hot key like 1, 2,3,4,5 on the numberpad?
[15:16] <Skaperen> Gnea: yeah, ssh would work ... but this is a case I need to get the ssh connection to "pull out"
[15:16] <Skaperen> Gnea: e.g. the X app will be running under screen
[15:16] <Gnea> Skaperen: understood, unfortunately they were inconsiderate of private networks with their own security
[15:16] <botcity> crucialhoax: the signals cant be directly compared because they are different devices also radio is a tunable medium i,e all devices have different range frequency etc any its off topic
[15:17] <sachael> I was messing with aircract and uninstalled the drivers for my broadcom wireless card. Which package contains the drivers? (I think driver "wl"?)
[15:17] <Gnea> Skaperen: nohup?
[15:17] <trinikrono> codemagician: did you try the keyboard shortcuts menu
 what do you mean with: sudo apt-get install gparted.
[15:17] <Skaperen> Gnea: no, just screen ... easy to disconnect on screen
[15:17] <rigved> v0lksman: well, ubuntu does have more newer software than debian, but it is always tested properly
[15:17] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: i mean run it in a terminal
[15:17] <Skaperen> Gnea: but the ssh connection stays while it's still forwarding
[15:17] <trinikrono> thats how you install things in ubuntu
[15:17] <codemagician> trinikrono, im new to ubuntu... where do I find this? I'm using 10.10 desktop edition.. thanks
[15:18] <cached> is there a way to make a certain folder so that some certain set of users have complete (read/write/execute) access to all files in that folder, regardless of who put it there?
[15:18] <rigved> d4n1s: sorry, wandered off...ok, so the thing is that installing rpm software in ubuntu is not supported here
 so you mean i need to copy sudo apt-get install gparted?
[15:18] <trinikrono> codemagician: should be preferences keyboard shortcuts
[15:18] <Skaperen> Gnea: I need to get the ssh connection to drop ... I'm going to start another ssh session to another machine to start another X app ... repeat 46 more times
[15:18] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: yes
 thx
[15:19] <Gnea> Skaperen: and the X app will display where?
[15:19] <B0o-supermario> Lo
[15:19] <oli__> l
[15:19] <codemagician> trinikrono, works perfectly thanks!
[15:19] <Skaperen> Gnea: on the desktop I identify in the DISPLAY environment variable I pass to the X app
[15:20] <trinikrono> :D
[15:20] <Gnea> Skaperen: but, ultimately, on the desktop local to the target machine?
[15:20] <d4n1s> rigved so you tell me that the problem is with the instantiation of deb items?
[15:20] <Viliny> Hello! i have a ubuntu box acting as a server. i noticed it's running it's harddrive alot novadays, any way to see what is doing the disk usage?
[15:20] <cached> i feel like having a python script that just recursively chgrp the files in the folder appropriately would be silly :\
 what do i do when it is finish?
[15:20] <Skaperen> Gnea: no ... the target machines have no X server ... just a few X apps and enough libs to run them
[15:21] <thejoker420> I  am having problems with update through update manager as well as apt-get downloading takes for ever
[15:21] <thejoker420> i am connected to a wireless network
[15:21] <trinikrono> go under system / Administration and partition editor MrMadsRthomsen
[15:21] <trinikrono> and you will see the partitions on the drive
[15:21] <Skaperen> Gnea: it's a cluster of server and I'm opening little monitor windows for each one onto a bank of displays
[15:21] <mekos> Hi all: strange thing happens: dolphin and konqueor keep installing on my gnome machine all the time - removed them two times ??? what's happening ??
[15:21] <Skaperen> servers
 thx
[15:22] <trinikrono> Viliny: did you run the gnome-system-monitor
[15:22] <Skaperen> Gnea: ultimately I want to start them w/o having to make the ssh connection in the first place
[15:22] <rigved> d4n1s: installing rpm software in a debian-based system is not the traditional way to do things...you need to find the .deb version of the firmware that you want
[15:22] <Gnea> Skaperen: then there just needs to be a clear path to the target X server
[15:22] <Gnea> Skaperen: right.
[15:22] <Viliny> trinikrono: yes, but didn't find what i needed... installing IOtop at the moment :)
[15:22] <Gnea> Skaperen: cron should be able to win that
[15:23] <Skaperen> Gnea: the clear path exists ... but Xorg is not listening on a TCP port under Ubuntu Desktop default config
[15:23] <thejoker420> any ideas
[15:23] <Skaperen> Gnea: I've been looking around to find how to configure it to start listening ... the standard port to do that on is 6000
[15:23] <d4n1s> rigved ok thanks
[15:23] <d4n1s> rigved see ya
[15:23] <Gnea> Skaperen: could you not use ssh-keys to secure the transmission from each system?
[15:24] <Skaperen> Gnea: of course, it's nice to have it not do so by default for security reasons ... but there should be a way for it to be turned back on
[15:24] <rigved> d4n1s: ok. sorry i couldn't help much
[15:24] <thejoker420> has any had this issues with ubuntu
[15:24] <thejoker420> wireless connection with atheros chip
[15:24] <Viper92Z-Linux> What kind of problems ?
[15:24] <thejoker420> slown downloading
[15:25] <mekos> thejoker420: mine is slow only going thru a router
[15:25] <Skaperen> Gnea: there are a number of reasons here that I am trying to get ssh out of this ... that's why I'm looking for how to make X do this via TCP directly
[15:25] <Viper92Z-Linux> Are you sure it's not your connection issue, thejoker420 ?
[15:25] <cached> is there a good way to make a certain folder so that some certain set of users have complete (read/write/execute) access to all files in that folder, regardless of who put it there? i feel like having a python script that just recursively chgrp the files in the folder appropriately would be silly :\ (sorry for re-ask, but no one answered. i don't want to flood the channel, so i'll assume no if no one responds)
 it can see it but i can still not get aces to the drive
[15:26] <sachael> how can I install the broadcom-wl driver?
[15:26] <thejoker420> yes pretty sure i have ubuntu on my desktop connected via the ethernet and it works fine
[15:26] <erUSUL> cached: that's what groups where created for
[15:26] <Gnea> Skaperen: understood.
[15:26] <jrib> cached: use ACLs.  Alternatively, you can also change the umask of users so that they give group write access and setgid a directory but that won't apply to subdirectories
[15:27] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: can you right click on it there and see if it says mount
[15:27] <Skaperen> Gnea: given the right DISPLAY string, X clients are trying to make the correct X protocol connection ... it's just that Xorg isn't listening
[15:27] <Gnea> Skaperen: exactly, and that would use less networking resources
 it says unmount
[15:28] <Skaperen> Gnea: that, too
[15:28] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: well that means its mounted somewhere
[15:28] <trinikrono> see if you can see where it is mounted
[15:28] <thejoker420> so im not sure what is going on
[15:28] <Gnea> Skaperen: I wonder sometimes at the actual amount of experience that's been gathered into the current Ubuntu development team
[15:28] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: go on properties it should say where its mounted
[15:29] <Skaperen> Gnea: I tried doing "xauth +" to drop security ... that didn't help
 ok thx trying
[15:30] <Skaperen> Gnea: experience in actual software, I believe they have a lot ... experience making sure legacy features THEY have never used still work, not so sure about
 when i go to  properties it says its not mounted
[15:30] <Gnea> Skaperen: Okay, check out /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[15:30] <cached> erUSUL: ACLs work for all subdirectories as well?
[15:31] <the_dark_warrio1> Is there a package for Linux man pages?
[15:31] <the_dark_warrio1> for linux kernel man pages*
[15:31] <Skaperen> Gnea: I've run a cross a few other issues ... one of which involves an IPv{4,6} dual stack in a LAN that has both IPv4 and IPv6, but which has no IPv6 to the internet ... it assumes that if an IPv6 global scope address exists, then IPv6 can reach the internet
[15:32] <Skaperen> Gnea: the resolver is the issue ... it looks for AAAA first in such cases ... because they set the default to do so internally to the source code ... the resolver only has a config option to turn IPv6 on, not to turn it off, and they didn't add one to turn it off
 when i go to  properties it says its not mounted
[15:33] <trinikrono> hmm MrMadsRthomsen is ntfs or anything
[15:33] <rigved> the_dark_warrio1: search for 'Linux Kernel in a Nutshell' on google. there's a html version as well as .pdf and dpcbook versions
[15:33] <Skaperen> Gnea: in part it's the fault of the resolver team for not realizing someone could patch their code and break it ... they should have had a way to disable IPv6 in resolv.conf
[15:33] <rigved> the_dark_warrio1: *docbook
 its ntfs
[15:34] <the_dark_warrio1> rigved: nice, thanks!
[15:34] <Skaperen> Gnea: but in part it's the fault of the Ubuntu or Debian packager that patched the code to make IPv6 on by default, instead of just installing a resolv.conf file to do it (that could be changed easily for the few cases that it causes breakage)
[15:34] <trinikrono> did you try the mount command yet MrMadsRthomsen
[15:35] <Skaperen> anyway ... I'm still looking for how to make Xorg be invoked to enable TCP listening
[15:35] <rigved> the_dark_warrio1: you are welcome. after you finish with it, then head over to http://tldp.org. it has the complete documentation of the linux kernel
 in the therminal ?
[15:35] <trinikrono> yes MrMadsRthomsen
[15:35] <trinikrono> !mount
 dont know the command
[15:36] <codemagician> is it possible to remote control my friends Ubuntu desktop to help her out?
[15:36] <AdmV0rl0n> bummer, my ESXI box doesnt do VT
[15:36] <MrMadsRthomsen> trying
[15:36]  * AdmV0rl0n grumbles
[15:36] <abstrakt> hi, every time I log in, my nice theme disappears and the junky stupid GTK+ theme appears instead
[15:36] <AdmV0rl0n> so ubuntu cloud crashes on install
[15:37] <abstrakt> well actually no sorry, every time I boot up my computer... the *first* time I log in
[15:37] <abstrakt> this happens
[15:37] <trinikrono> codemagician: remote desktop :D
[15:37] <abstrakt> to "fix" it, all I have to do is log out and log back in again
[15:37] <trinikrono> under administration
[15:37] <abstrakt> has anyone seen this happen?
[15:37] <codemagician> trinikrono, is that a standard pre-installed component?
[15:37] <the_dark_warrio1> rigved: thats very helpful. I've also found the git repository for linux kernel man pages at http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/download.html
[15:38] <rigved> the_dark_warrio1: yep, that too. that's the website where the linux code is hosted
[15:38] <MrMadsRthomsen> do i need another command than just !mount?
[15:38] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: yes thats why you went into gparted
[15:39] <trinikrono> so you can see which partition it was /dev/sdb1 for example
[15:39] <the_dark_warrio1> rigved: thanks ;-) Let the study begin! Cya
[15:39] <MrMadsRthomsen> k
[15:39] <rigved> the_dark_warrio1: all the best! :)
[15:39] <trinikrono> codemagician: yes i use it all the time, well trough the network
[15:39] <codemagician> trinikrono, ok thanks
[15:40] <cached> erUSUL: i followed instructions online for setting up the appropriate ACL ( http://brunogirin.blogspot.com/2010/03/shared-folders-in-ubuntu-with-setgid.html ) but when i copy a file into the folder, it maintains its old privileges, preventing others from deleting it. is there a way around this limitation?
[15:40] <trinikrono> cached: did you chmod the files after you copied them
[15:40] <cached> trinikrono: no, but that's the point. i was wondering if there's a way to have it work without having to chmod each time
[15:41] <trinikrono> well you should only have to chmod once
[15:41] <cached> trinikrono: think of it as a sandbox folder
[15:42] <cached> trinikrono: once per file. i'd prefer for it to be an open folder for a certain set of people to mess around with however they wish (well, for the purposes of a certain project), including deleting files other placed there
[15:42] <erUSUL> cached: the setgid changes the group not the permission bits;
[15:43] <cached> erUSUL: is there a way to force the permission bits to change when a file is copied?
[15:43] <trinikrono> cached: wow
[15:43] <trinikrono> that is a hard way of doing
[15:43] <MrMadsRthomsen> is the driver need a flag?
[15:43] <erUSUL> cached: no. you will have to use acl's for that
[15:43] <erUSUL> !info eiciel | cached
[15:44] <erUSUL> cached: you have to modify default umasks for thw usres etc. to get the complete solution
 do the driver need a flag
[15:44] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: i dont understand you there :s
[15:45] <cached> erUSUL: how do i set the acl then? just "setfacl -d -m u::rwx,g::rwx,o::r-x foldername" didn't work. this is on a server so i can't really use graphical tools
 in gparted you can manage flags do one of those need to bee marked?
[15:45] <erUSUL> cached: you see the bit about enabling acl's in the filesystem? you have to remount it changing options in fstab
[15:46] <erUSUL> cached: you can use setfacl and getfacl in command line
[15:46] <cached> erUSUL: i did that. i changed the appropriate value in fstab and restarted
[15:46] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: you should just run something like sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk
[15:46] <erUSUL> cached: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions <<< this page has also usefull info
[15:46] <trinikrono> and you will see the files
[15:47] <pylix> please help me i have no bootable OS. how to i get grub back?
[15:48] <trinikrono> pylix: you cant use a cd and setup grub from there?
[15:48] <pylix> my xubuntu cd doesn't have recovery
[15:48] <g_0_0> !grub | pylix
 ok if i understanding right (my drive is /dev/sda5) i need to write sudo mount /dev/sda5  /mnt/disk?
[15:48] <mkanyicy> pylix: are you using grub2 or the old grub?
[15:49] <cached> erUSUL: there's nothing on that page that helps with files that have been copied over
[15:49] <pylix> grub the old legacy
[15:49] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: almost you need to make sure the folder /mnt/disk exists
 ok cheking
[15:49] <bibic682> hello, is there an easy way to download and install AVVIEW
[15:49] <erUSUL> cached: with seguid and proper umask should be possible to acvompish what you want afaics ... if umasks is 002 for team/group members and whatever file you create in it inherits the group you are all set. peroblem is what jrib mentioned. subfolders do not inherit the setguid bit so you may want to have a icron job or similar that does it automatically
[15:50] <pylix> I'm using try without installing lol and i installed wireless drivers from my flash drive
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> !info avview
[15:50] <mkanyicy> pylix: follow that link shown above
 i have a folder named mnt is it enough
[15:50] <bibic682> trying to get my all in wonder 9000 tv working
[15:50] <Stava> When I edit /etc/hosts to point "local" at "127.0.0.1" it works fine. But the "local" entry is removed once I restart the computer. Why is that?
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> bibic682:  and what is that exactly?
[15:50] <th_> hello. im making a bash script to start things. what is the correct line to start command line programs so it starts a gnome-terminal
[15:50] <bibic682> Dr-Willis: It is a tv viewer for ati tv cards
[15:50] <th_> *runs them in gnome-terminal
[15:51] <mkanyicy> th_: you are not clear
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> bibic682:  is there even a linux port of the thing?
[15:51] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: make the folder disk if you need too
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> th_:  gnome-terminal someoptions scriptname    :)
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> th_:  for xterm  its 'xterm -e commandtorun'  gnome-terminal has somthing similer.
[15:52] <th_> mkanyicy, somebody got me :P
[15:52] <bibic682> Dr_Willis: It is a video capture for ati cards from GATOS
[15:52] <cached> erUSUL: i think acl isn't working even though it's enabled in fstab and i restarted?
[15:52] <mkanyicy> th_: good luck
[15:52] <th_> Dr_Willis, thanks again
 only a seperat folder named disk or a folder named /mnt/disk
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> th_:   -e, --command                   Execute the argument to this option inside the terminal
[15:53] <cached> erUSUL: is there something wrong with "/dev/sda1       /           ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,acl    0 1" ?
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> th_:  from the gnome-terminal --help-all   info :)
[15:53] <Gnea> Skaperen: Interesting, I wasn't aware of the issue with IPv6.  At some point, it will become a moot point, so I think they were just ahead of themselves on that one.
[15:53] <th_> Dr_Willis, wow. you should get paid for this :D
[15:53] <trinikrono> a folder named disk in /mnt MrMadsRthomsen
[15:53] <jrib> cached: "isn't working" is too vague
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> th_:  yes i should...
[15:54] <th_> Dr_Willis, btw confing /etc/init/ssh was the correct way to stop ssh server for running at boot
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> th_:  whats the point of instlling it.. if you are not running it. :)
[15:55] <th_> Dr_Willis, so i can scp stuff
 i cant make a folder
[15:55] <cached> erUSUL: jrib: actually, something weird is going on. if i just do nano testfile inside the folder, i get a permissions denied? I own the folder which, for now, has 777 permissions and getfacl on the directory gives user::rwx group::rwx among other thigns ?
[15:56] <jrib> cached: just pastebin the full output of getfacl
[15:56] <erUSUL> cached: no the fstab line looks ok
[15:56] <mkanyicy> th_: you cant scp to your local machine if ssh server is not running
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> th_:  so why do you want it off then?
[15:56] <bibic682> Can ati tv tuners run in wine??
[15:56] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: sudo md /mnt/disk
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> bibic682:  doubtfull
[15:56] <cached> jrib: gah, i somehow don't have permissions to my own home directory now :<
[15:57] <th_> mkanyicy, yes that is why i start it when needed
[15:57] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: sudo mkdir /mnt/disk
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> th_:  and theres some reason to not have it always running?
[15:57] <mkanyicy> th_: ok
 done now what
[15:58] <th_> Dr_Willis, i dont want to run unnecessary services
[15:58] <trinikrono> the other one MrMadsRthomsen sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/disk
[15:58] <th_> Dr_Willis, and its more safe this way
 trying and thx again
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> th_:  you are running a 486 or somthing? :) i doubt if ssh is that big a security risk
[15:58] <mkanyicy> th_: but you can't enable ssh server on  that machine while you are on another machine wanting to 'push' files into it by scp
[15:59] <cached> jrib: http://pastebin.com/s7TnHs9w
[15:59] <th_> Dr_Willis, noo 64bit actually.
[15:59] <th_> mkanyicy, true. but my needs are very limited. i mostly download stuff from the schools network
 thanks alot found out
[16:00] <mkanyicy> th_: I think scp doesnt need an ssh server in that mode, when you run it from your own machine to pull/download files from remote machines
[16:01] <th_> mkanyicy, but for sending?
[16:01] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: you might want to look at !fstab
[16:01] <jrib> cached: not that it would stop you from creating files, but why do you have setuid, setgid, and sticky bit enabled?  Anyway, what does « touch ~/test » do?
[16:01] <trinikrono> !fstab
[16:01] <mkanyicy> th_: yes for sending it is needed
[16:01] <cached> jrib: it seems to work. i think the problem with the home directory was fixed
[16:02] <sky__> any body here?
[16:02] <jrib> cached: ok
[16:02] <cached> jrib: it just creates the blank file ~/test
[16:02] <th_> mkanyicy, i tought so
[16:02] <mkanyicy> sky__: everybody is here
[16:02] <sky__> haha
[16:02] <hsa2> hello
[16:02] <jrib> cached: so is everything working now?
[16:02] <hsa2> why there is a sound latency on flash games?
[16:02] <cached> jrib: still not deleting files copied over
[16:02] <sky__> is there any one who comes from china?
 why do i need to do it
[16:03] <jrib> cached: what do you mean?
[16:03] <mkanyicy> !ot| sky__
[16:03] <th_> is there a list of linux friendly tv cards?
[16:03] <sky__> OK``
[16:03] <cached> jrib: say a file was created in a different directory / different computer, and is copied into the folder in question. users other than the copier can't modify/delete it
[16:03] <mkanyicy> th_: dont buy any Compro cards
[16:04] <BluesKaj> !cn | sky__
[16:04] <mkanyicy> th_: Hauppaugge cards are great
[16:04] <jrib> cached: well wouldn't you want to create a group and set the default ACL to give that group rwx?
[16:04] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: so it will mount it eveytime you turn the pc on
[16:04] <th_> mkanyicy, yes i know there are many not recommended cards. so want to be sure before shopping
[16:04] <cached> jrib: isn't that what the acl in the pastebin is doing?
[16:04] <jrib> cached: no
[16:04] <th_> mkanyicy, any hauppauge? native drivers?
 so the command is fstab?
[16:04] <hsa2> any idea for me?
[16:04] <cached> jrib: why not?
[16:05] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: no its a config file read the wikipage
[16:05] <th_> is there a list of linux friendly tv cards?
 where do i find the file
[16:06] <jrib> cached: you want it to say default:group:WHATEVER_GROUP:rwx
[16:06] <cached> jrib: oh
[16:06] <mkanyicy> th_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaHauppauge
[16:07] <cached> jrib: it now says "default:group:mm:rwx", but a user in the group mm is still getting permission denied on newly copied files
[16:07] <th_> mkanyicy, thanks! thats hauppauge only. is it only brand to be considered?
 where do i find the file
[16:08] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen:  read this first https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[16:08] <bullgard4> Banshee 1.8.0 times and again downloads a certain podcast item and does not stop. What's going wrong here?
[16:08] <MrMadsRthomsen> thx
[16:09] <jrib> cached: well what does getfacl say about the files?
[16:09] <cached> jrib: group:mm:rwx			#effective:r-x
[16:09] <jrib> cached: there you go
[16:10] <cached> jrib: why is the thing for the file not the effective one?
[16:10] <mkanyicy> th_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimedia
[16:10] <researcher1> my Ubuntu suddenly stopped booting so I formatted drive C & installed XP. Now how to install Ubuntu again? The liveCD takes infinite to proceed
[16:11] <jrib> cached: you have to change the mask
[16:11] <th_> mkanyicy, i really need googling lessons
[16:11] <cached> jrib: of what?
[16:11] <jrib> cached: change default mask for the directory you're doing this in
[16:13] <GFW> which channel is for chinese
[16:13] <GFW> ?
[16:13] <GFW> do
[16:13] <GFW> do you know?
[16:13] <bhagatsr> i dont know where to put this question but Can anyone tellme why i m seeing red and blue images in an anylgraphic 3d movie even after wearing red-blue glasses
[16:13] <vish> !cn | GFW
[16:13] <GFW> thanks
[16:13] <GFW> thanks you very much.
[16:14] <vish> you are welcome..
[16:14] <WierdAAR> I think I have a problem with my video card. I can't run some application properly (boxee, xmbc) and have no access to visual effects at all. I have no idea how to fix it, or what the problem is..
[16:14] <bhagatsr> i dont know where to put this question but Can anyone tellme why i m seeing red and blue images in an anylgraphic 3d movie even after wearing red-blue glasses
[16:14] <battlehands> Is there a channel that can help with troubleshooting hardware?
[16:14] <trinikrono> WierdAAR: you should start with what type of video card it is
[16:14] <erUSUL> battlehands: #hardware ?
 how do i know about the fstab file is right?
[16:15] <vish> !offtopic | bhagatsr
[16:15] <Jak> hello, I have a issue with shutdown - it restarts the pc everytime. Any ideas how I can get this fixed
[16:15] <WierdAAR> trinikrono, lspci | grep VGA gives " VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)"
 how do i know about the fstab file is right?
[16:16] <battlehands> erUSUL, thanks
[16:16] <battlehands> erUSUL,  channel is invite only... I cant join
[16:17] <eddyquezd> hello everyone there
[16:17] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: you only use the fstab if you want the disk to be mounted all the time
[16:17] <erUSUL> battlehands: try with two dashes ##hardware
[16:18] <eddyquezd> do have some issue with ubuntu
[16:18] <cached> erUSUL: i thought i set the mask to rwx (getfacl agrees) but same problem :<
 is what i want
[16:18] <breadcrumb> battlehands, its not invite-only, but you need to be registered and auth'd to nickserv
[16:18] <battlehands> breadcrumb, geez... Its been years since Ive used an IRC service.  How do I auth?
[16:19] <trinikrono> MrMadsRthomsen: read the link i sent you it has everything you need in there
[16:19] <WierdAAR> trinikrono, If i have the name from lspci | grep VGA, what should I do next? I've tried using google, and searching the ubuntu forums for some information, but havn't been able to find anything useful. (eg. I'm not really sure what to search for)
[16:19] <erUSUL> cached: no acl's involved http://pastebin.com/W5swiv5n
[16:19] <MrMadsRthomsen> ok thx
[16:19] <cached> erUSUL: oh, it was the sticky bit
[16:19] <breadcrumb> battlehands http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[16:20] <_CommandeR_> how do I make grub2 to use uuid ?
[16:20] <jrib> cached: erm, you don't want to mask rwx...
[16:20] <trinikrono> WierdAAR: it does not give you hardware drivers?
[16:20] <erUSUL> cached: as i said for subfolders and copied files you can have an icron job or a script that uses inotifywait to "fix" permissions as files appear in the folder ?
[16:20] <WierdAAR> trinikrono, I not sure what you mean?
[16:20] <cached> jrib: how should i mask it?
[16:20] <jrib> cached: mask is like "take away"
[16:21] <trinikrono> WierdAAR: i meant did you check the hardware drivers menu in administration
[16:21] <cached> jrib: uh. crap
[16:21] <WierdAAR> trinikrono, Yes, nothing comes up
[16:23] <cached> erUSUL: that was my original suggestion, but i was wondering if there's something more elegant. anyway, whatever i have set up here seems to work, so i'll use that for now and figure out why it's actually working in due time. thanks for the help!
[16:23] <cached> jrib: thank you for the help as well!
[16:23] <jrib> cached: no problem, acl is the elegant solution :)
[16:23] <battlehands> oops
[16:24] <erUSUL> cached: acl's may be a more elegant solution but they make my head spin :P i can not hel with them much
[16:24] <MrMintanet> I have a folder loaded with .zip files.  Is there an easy and organized way to batch unzip them all at once?
[16:24] <jrib> MrMintanet: for loop
[16:24] <mkanyicy> MrMintanet: unzip file.zip
[16:24] <MrMintanet> What?
[16:25] <jrib> MrMintanet: in the directory:  for file in *.zip; do unzip "$file"; done
[16:25] <mkanyicy> MrMintanet: for f in *.zip ; do unzip "$f" ; done
[16:25] <MrMintanet> Can you just write the command out without any extra text?  I am confused as to what the CLI input should be.
[16:25] <MrMintanet> <-  NOOB!
[16:26] <jrib> MrMintanet: mkanyicy wrote it without any extra text
[16:26] <jayson_> hi guys i got a problem with my menu bar every icon under the "places" menu such as home or whatever starts VLC
[16:26] <MrMintanet> So, just browse to the directory, and then past that in terminal?
[16:26] <jrib> jayson_: right click on a directory -> open with -> other application -> nautilus (and check the option to make it default)
[16:26] <jrib> MrMintanet: browse to the directory in a terminal, yes
[16:27] <jayson_> jrib, i can right clicking also results in vlc opening automaticly
[16:28] <jrib> jayson_: all you do is right click?  Nothing else?  And vlc opens?
[16:28] <MrMintanet> Works, thanks very much!
[16:28] <jayson_> jrib that right
[16:28] <jrib> jayson_: that's pretty strange.
[16:28] <xangua> jayson_: create a folder>right clic>open with other>open folder
[16:28] <jayson_> jrib that's what i thought also
[16:28] <jrib> jayson_: does right click behave like left click in other places?
[16:29] <WierdAAR> Do you need to get a special driver for VIA video cards ?
[16:30] <jayson_> jrib, xangua it only seems to do that under the Places menu
[16:30] <trinikrono> WierdAAR: you can look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[16:30] <jayson_> jrib, i just created a folder on the desktop and it works fine
[16:31] <jrib> jayson_: ah yes sorry, that's what I meant
[16:31] <mkanyicy> MrMintanet: by the way, this works too, 'unzip \*.zip' instead of the loop.
[16:31] <jrib> mkanyicy: are you sure?
[16:31] <KeithChester> Does anyone have a suggestion for a graphical ftp client that isn't gftp? Gftp just isnt.... up to par for what i want.
[16:31] <erUSUL> KeithChester: filezilla
[16:31] <jrib> KeithChester: nautilus?
[16:31] <trinikrono> filezilla o/
[16:31] <erUSUL> KeithChester: Places>Connect to Server
[16:31] <DogWater> Is there a safe way to have an older version and a newer version of g++ on the same system?
[16:32] <mkanyicy> jrib: just tried it out, it's in the man page example for unzip
[16:32] <KeithChester> ok, ill give em all a try. thanks people.
[16:32] <KeithChester> especially on the quick reply haha
[16:32] <staquix> try firefox plugin fireftp
[16:32] <KeithChester> staquix - i'm a chrome user :-p but ill keep that in mind if the others arent what i want
[16:32] <jayson_> jrib, ok after doing that on the desktop now right click behaves like the left click in that menu
[16:32] <jrib> mkanyicy: k, thanks
[16:32] <DogWater> I can't get this source to compile under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 http://www.vlfeat.org/~vedaldi/assets/siftpp/versions/siftpp-0.8.1.tar.gz, does it compile for anyone else? It works fine on CentOS
[16:32] <erUSUL> jrib: mkanyicy maybe unzip understands globs ....
[16:32] <KeithChester> oh erUSUL - one question on the places- > connect to server
[16:33] <KeithChester> the port set is actually ftp and not a number  - but it wont let me type a non # into the port section. how do i do that?
[16:33] <KeithChester> nm it just defaulted to the right port
[16:33] <jrib> mkanyicy, erUSUL: yes indeed, my eyes ignored the escaped *
[16:33] <jayson_> jrib, when you right click on the home link is it so post to open of give more options
[16:34] <DogWater> Anyone have a sec to try and compile that pkg and tell me if it works?
[16:34] <DogWater> it's very small
[16:34] <jrib> jayson_: I don't know
[16:34] <abstrakt> hi, does anyone here know much about the innards of GNOME and GNOME themes?
[16:34] <abstrakt> specifically gnome initialization?
[16:34] <jrib> abstrakt: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[16:34] <jayson_> jrib, could you tell me what your's does
[16:34] <abstrakt> jrib, I did
[16:34] <mello> hi could anybody explain what squashing means in NFS?
[16:34] <jrib> jayson_: mine doesn't exist :)
[16:34] <jayson_> jrib, doh!!!!
[16:35] <jrib> abstrakt: no, just assume the answer to the question you asked is "yes" and ask your next one
[16:35] <abstrakt> this problem has (apparently) been happening for months now
[16:35] <Rishav_T> DogWater: Whats the package?
[16:35] <edbian> mello, squashing typically  means erasing everything on a filesystem
[16:35] <DogWater> http://www.vlfeat.org/~vedaldi/assets/siftpp/versions/siftpp-0.8.1.tar.gz
[16:35] <DogWater> Rishav_T
[16:35] <abstrakt> jrib, every single time I reboot my computer, on first login, I get an ugly theme
[16:35] <edbian> mello, not sure if there is some context in NFS or not
[16:35] <jrib> abstrakt: ask the channel
[16:35] <abstrakt> jrib, then if I log out and log back in, I get the normal "good looking" theme
[16:35] <DogWater> I try to compile it under 10.04 LTS and it gives me a bunch of errors
[16:35] <abstrakt> ok
[16:36] <abstrakt> hey everyone
[16:36] <mello> i read it has something to do with preventing root from accesing export files but i dont get it
[16:36] <abstrakt> every time I boot (or reboot) my computer, on first login, I get an ugly theme
[16:36] <abstrakt> whattup with that?
[16:36] <edbian> mello, I have no idea.
[16:36] <jrib> abstrakt: try to keep it on one line in the future, thanks!
[16:36] <g_0_0> DogWater, can you pastebin the errors?
[16:36] <mello> edbian: ok thanx anyway :)
[16:36] <abstrakt> jrib, do you even have a remote clue as to the answer?
[16:37] <jrib> abstrakt: yes
[16:37] <erUSUL> DogWater: fails for me too
[16:37] <abstrakt> jrib, great, sooo... how can I fix it?
[16:37] <pylix> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: cannot read `/grub/core.img' correctly.
[16:37] <milamber> DogWater: me also
[16:37] <abstrakt> jrib, I've already tried A) removing ~/.gconfd ~/.gnome2 and friends
[16:37] <yeats> DogWater: have you tried just downloading the binary?: http://www.vlfeat.org/~vedaldi/assets/siftpp/binaries/
[16:38] <abstrakt> B) removing proprietary drivers (like nvidia and broadcom)
[16:38] <jrib> abstrakt: create fresh new user, see if issue exists there
[16:38] <abstrakt> nothing fixes this
[16:38] <DogWater> yeats: I can't use the binary I am trying to build a python binding that requires the source.
[16:38] <yeats> DogWater: ah.. ok
[16:39] <yeats> DogWater: it doesn't compile for me either - without a ./configure script, I can understand why ;-)
[16:39] <DogWater> yeats: newer version of gcc requires #include <stdint.h> to be defined
[16:39] <DogWater> it compiled =)
[16:39] <Rishav_T> DogWater: yea, even I'm on 10.04 and its givin lot of errors. in sift-driver.cpp I'm not that good in c++ so I guess thats all I can help.
[16:39] <Rishav_T> DogWater: nice :)
[16:40] <milamber> DogWater: are you going to send that upstream?
[16:40] <gribouille> hi
[16:40] <gribouille> how can I get a list of all packages providing ftp-server ?
[16:40] <DogWater> i may try and contact the person who wrote the source
[16:40] <nygus> hi
[16:41] <milamber> DogWater: that's what makes oss beautiful :)
[16:41] <DogWater> although in the version file it says he fixed the issue in the current version, =)
[16:41] <DogWater> even though he didnt =)
[16:42] <Rishav_T> gribouille: typt in "sudo apt-get install ftp-server" in a terminal. enter ur password. apt-get should give an error saying "ftp-server has no installatino candidate" and list all the packages providing it.
[16:42] <edbian> DogWater, maybe you don't have the current version
[16:42] <g_0_0> gribouille, try -  apt-cache search ftp server - in the terminal
[16:43] <milamber> DogWater: doesn't say *which* version of ubuntu 64
[16:44] <gribouille> ok, thanks
[16:45] <zamba> is it possible to manually deactivate an usb port?
[16:46] <milamber> gribouille: i don't think ftp-server is a meta package?
[16:47] <aeon-ltd> zamba: don't think so, but dmesg will tell you if anything got detected though
[16:47] <gribouille> milamber, it is a virtual package
[16:47] <sagat> a ro
[16:47] <sagat> tem alguem na rinha
[16:47] <sagat> #capoeira
[16:47] <Kazenin> sagat, como é ?
[16:48] <milamber> gribouille: correct, so you have to pick which ftp server you want. most people have good luck w/ vsftpd
[16:48] <gribouille> milamber, ok
[16:48] <sagat> e ai
[16:48] <sagat> so novo por aqui
[16:48] <sagat> mecho com linux a algum tempo
[16:48] <sagat> mas aqui sou novo
[16:48] <sagat> pq
[16:48] <sagat> ???
[16:48] <FloodBot2> sagat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:49] <gpc> !pt | sagat
[16:50] <Natsirt> join #spip
[16:51] <aeon-ltd> zamba: wait sorry i misread, usb ports (some) can be controlled by the bios, but the only ones i know of are the ones that supply power when the laptop/desktop is off
[16:52] <ptknight> hi
[16:53] <Rishav_T> zamba: You can do it through Grub I guess. I found a link. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disable-modprobe-loading-of-usb-storage-driver/
[16:53] <bezao> hi, i'm running ubuntu server on vbox under windows 7, everytime i format windows, i need to reconfigure my vbox, and everytime i loose my eth0 at ubuntu, atm i only have 'lo' on ifconfig, when i run 'dhclient' i got eth1 with correct local ip, but i cant ping nothing from or to ubuntu, i already have configured vbox with bridge mode! anyone can help?
[16:53] <zamba> aeon-ltd: well, i want to turn it on and off while running
[16:53] <zamba> aeon-ltd: it's for controlling a fan
[16:54] <keystr0k> Hey all. I just updated git by building the src. I did this as root and the binary is located in /usr/local/bin/git   running git --version gives me 1.7.4 (good).  When I run this command as a different user it's version 1.5.x (old = bad).  The thing is, running 'which git' under both users returns the same path... /usr/local/bin/git
[16:54] <keystr0k> Why is a non-root user seeing the old version if 'which' is showing the same path
[16:54] <ptknight> i'm trying to compile xnee 3.08 but i'm getting an error and I don't know much about this stuff. Can you help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/563033/
[16:55] <Rishav_T> zamba: Oh since you want it to control a fan, those methods might not work. Since even on disabling USBs they usually still provide power.
[16:56] <g_0_0> ptknight, is there a configure script and did you run it?
[16:56] <ptknight> yes. I ran ./configure first: http://paste.ubuntu.com/563032/
[16:58] <aeon-ltd> zamba: homemade fan?
[16:59] <xkucf03> hi,
[16:59] <xkucf03> i am using apache and nginx and i want them to listen on specific ip addreses,
[16:59] <xkucf03> on boot starting this daemons fails -- it seems like that daemon is started before network if fully ready, which leads to error:
[16:59] <xkucf03> "Cannot assign requested address"
[16:59] <FloodBot2> xkucf03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <ptknight> testi ?
[16:59] <g_0_0> ptknight, did you install libgtk2.0-dev ?
[17:00] <xkucf03> when i start them manually, it works
[17:00] <aeon-ltd> zamba: if it is why not just wire a switch in?
[17:00] <Jordan_U> keystr0k: If you open a new (non-root) shell do you get the newer git?
[17:00] <keystr0k> Jordan_U: great question. one sec
[17:00] <ptknight> g_0_0: probably not… let me check
[17:00] <xkucf03> in init scripts there is:
[17:00] <xkucf03> # Required-Start:    $local_fs $remote_fs $network $syslog
[17:00] <xkucf03> but it does not wait for ready network
[17:01] <bezao> hi, i'm running ubuntu server on vbox under windows 7, everytime i format windows, i need to reconfigure my vbox, and everytime i loose my eth0 at ubuntu, atm i only have 'lo' on ifconfig, when i run 'dhclient' i got eth1 with correct local ip, but i cant ping nothing from or to ubuntu, i already have configured vbox with bridge mode! anyone can help?
[17:02] <EvilPhoenix> bezao:  stop reformatting your system, then? :/
[17:02] <Luvz2drv> its windows you cannot help but to have to format :)
[17:02] <EvilPhoenix> Luvz2drv:  yeah, format and replace it with Linux :P
[17:02] <EvilPhoenix> Ubuntu, preferably
[17:02] <Luvz2drv> lol
[17:02] <xkucf03> i have found workaround: add to init.d script "sleep 5", but it is ugly
[17:02] <bezao> EvilPhoenix someone here at #ubuntu helped me before, but i dont remember what he told me to do
[17:03] <Luvz2drv> put windows in a vm in ubuntu
[17:03] <ptknight> g_0_0: ubunto sc says it's installed
[17:03] <keystr0k> Jordan_U:  you got it :) thanks! So, why did I have to log out and log back in to see the new version?
[17:03] <EvilPhoenix> Luvz2drv:  that would definitely work :P
[17:03] <compdoc> bezao, you have only one network card in the system?
[17:03] <bezao> compdoc yes
[17:03] <Jordan_U> keystr0k: You didn't need to log out, just clear bash's path hash: http://bradconte.com/bash-path-hashing.html
[17:03] <compdoc> might want to try a 2nd one
[17:03] <g_0_0> ptknight, it looks like you may want to install imagemagick too
[17:04] <keystr0k> Jordan_U:  thanks!
[17:04] <bezao> compdoc i only have one!
[17:04] <compdoc> leave the system's network card alone
[17:04] <tgywa> Which tool can I use to compare installed packages on two different Ubuntu machines ?
[17:04] <Jordan_U> keystr0k: You're welcome.
[17:04] <Daniel> Hi, I'm a new user of Ubuntu
[17:04] <g_0_0> ptknight, the dev package is installed?
[17:05] <karanmenon> hi
[17:05] <Daniel> I have a problem with the internet conection, can anybody help me please? (sorry my english is not pretty good yet)
[17:05] <ptknight> g_0_0: http://imgur.com/8pGre I'm not very good at this...
[17:05] <karanmenon> whats is the probablem?
[17:05] <karanmenon> Daniel?
[17:05] <bezao> hi, i'm running ubuntu server on vbox under windows 7, everytime i format windows, i need to reconfigure my vbox, and everytime i loose my eth0 at ubuntu, atm i only have 'lo' on ifconfig, when i run 'dhclient' i got eth1 with correct local ip, but i cant ping nothing from or to ubuntu, i already have configured vbox with bridge mode! anyone can help?
[17:05] <erUSUL> Daniel: maybe you prefer to go to the ubuntu channel in your language
[17:06] <Daniel> yes
[17:06] <erUSUL> which is?
[17:06] <Daniel> how can i change the language
[17:06] <erUSUL> Daniel: what is your native language
[17:06] <g_0_0> ptknight, install imagemagick too
[17:06] <Daniel> spansih
[17:06] <erUSUL> !es | Daniel
[17:07] <ptknight> g_0_0: how do I do that? Can't find it on Ubuntu SC…
[17:07] <Daniel> ok, muchas gracias ubottu
[17:07] <Daniel> pero dònde tengo que escribir eso?
[17:07] <g_0_0> ptknight, in the terminal type - sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[17:07] <karanmenon> Starcraft dont work on Ubuntu
[17:07] <karanmenon> :\
[17:08] <erUSUL> Daniel: in the same place you writte anything else
[17:08] <erUSUL> !appdb | karanmenon
[17:08] <Daniel> ok
[17:08] <ptknight> g_0_0: it installed successfully
[17:08] <JT13> is anyone familiar with virtualbox? I have it setup, created the virtual partition for installation but when initializing installation of the os "win 7" inside the vbox, i get an erroe that "windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computers hardware maynot support booting to this disc. Ensure that the disks controller is enabled using the computers BIOS menu. by the way I am installing via virtual cd/dvd drive with an iso saved on the desktop.
[17:08] <karanmenon> I tried using wine
[17:09] <karanmenon> it installed but SC2 crashes after I start a game
[17:09] <karanmenon> I logged in I changed all the settings
[17:09] <karanmenon> but its not the settings that affect it.. I think wine cant read StarCraft 2 well
[17:10] <trinikrono> karanmenon:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882 check this out
[17:10] <arashi256> Just got my new Google Nexus S phone with Android 2.3 - nice :)
[17:10] <ptknight> g_0_0: should I do again the make install command?
[17:11] <karanmenon> thanks trinikrono
[17:12] <g_0_0> ptknight, yeah try again and see what happens
[17:12] <g_0_0> ptknight, how did you unpack the source?
[17:13] <karanmenon> how do i learn the basics of "Terminal" as a newbe
[17:13] <karanmenon> I love Ubuntu and how just by programming i can make my own apps
[17:14] <cfedde> it's a simple matter of programmign.
[17:14] <karanmenon> I know.. but i want to customize my comp
[17:14] <karanmenon> with terminal
[17:14] <karanmenon> i want to learn the basics
[17:14] <Somelauw> How to import anything from bluetooth?
[17:14] <g_0_0> !terminal | karanmenon
[17:15] <ptknight> g_0_0: used ubuntu's "extract here"... It wasn't via term. It failed again, btw. http://paste.ubuntu.com/563475/
[17:15] <karanmenon> Thanks ubottu
[17:15] <Somelauw> I am used to Fspot, but it doesn't work anymore, since it can't find my phone.
[17:17] <g_0_0> ptknight, in the terminal create a new folder, copy source there then unpack as with tar -xzf Xnee-2.00.tar.gz - or what ever file you have, run configure again then try make
[17:17] <bezao> how can i reset my ubuntu eth ?
[17:17] <ptknight> g_0_0: I'm on it
[17:17] <ginosal> hi! i'm still having problems on my wireless connection on ubuntu 10.10. i've noticed that it is very unstable when i disconnect AC power and work only with battery power. it works fine when wall powered. what should i do to fix this issue? is there anything I can do?
[17:17] <g_0_0> bezao, in terminal type - sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:18] <NAJI> hello
[17:18] <christoph_> hey
[17:19] <NAJI> is it possible to share internet through cellular phone via wifi??
[17:20] <vooze> NAJI, with android 2.3 yes
[17:20] <vooze> or 2.2 i think
[17:20] <NAJI> vooze: what is android??
[17:21] <vooze> google > android
[17:21] <chaos2358> can anyone help me with virtualbox? I have it setup, have created the virtual partition on which the os "win 7" will be installed on, I am running the install as a virtual cd/rom drive pointed to the iso on desktop. When i initialize installation it comes up fine, select language and locale, but  when i am attempting to select the disc to install on i get an error that windows cannot install on the disc. my computers hardware may not be configured t
[17:21] <chaos2358> o support booting from the disc. please make sure the discs controllers are in abled in the BIOS of my machine.
[17:21] <Rishav_T> NAJI: depends on your phone. If you have an Android, iPhone, Nokia N series, it should work. Other phones, I dont know.
[17:21] <NAJI> vooze: i will get an lg smartphone with wifi and 3g internet.
[17:21] <christoph_> it is the system produced by google
[17:21] <h-dee> hi...i have an issue here. I'm on a laptop having SD card slot, but when i insert the card...nothing happens. Ubuntu don't detect it. Using v10.10 64-bit by the way. However, I check on my XP that both the card and card-reader is working fine. And also, if I insert my card into an external card-reader, and then connect it to my laptop via USB. Ubuntu detects it. Any ideas why it isn't detecting the SD card when I insert it into my SD card slot inbuilt in my lap
[17:21] <h-dee> top?
[17:22] <NAJI> Rishav_T thank you
[17:22] <NAJI> vooze thanks
[17:22] <chaos2358>  can anyone help me with virtualbox? I have it setup, have created the virtual partition on which the os "win 7" will be installed on, I am running the install as a virtual cd/rom drive pointed to the iso on desktop. When i initialize installation it comes up fine, select language and locale, but  when i am attempting to select the disc to install on i get an error that windows cannot install on the disc. my computers hardware may not be configured t
[17:22] <chaos2358>  o support booting from the disc. please make sure the discs controllers are in abled in the BIOS of my machine.
[17:23] <vooze> NAJI, np :) just learn to google somthing, before 2-3 people having to explain simple things
[17:24] <ptknight> g_0_0: It still sys the libgtk2.0-dev is missing #113 http://paste.ubuntu.com/563478/
[17:24] <ginosal> hi! i'm still having problems on my wireless connection on ubuntu 10.10. i've noticed that it is very unstable when i disconnect AC power and work only with battery power. it works fine when wall powered. what should i do to fix this issue? is there anything I can do?
[17:25] <f> hu
[17:25] <f> hi
[17:25] <Stava> Can i block certain directories from being "remembered" in file use history?
[17:26] <f> hello
[17:27] <BluesKaj> I'm looking at an Aver media hdmi pcie video capture card for our media server pc , to serve as a extension to hdtv progs  due to the HiDef limitations of my older hd pvr HDD....anybody have exprience with Aver media on Linux?
[17:28] <viktor133> i need to get a scanned pdf to workable text, ocrfeeder doesn't work. any recommendations?
[17:29] <g_0_0> ptknight, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[17:29] <milamber> g_0_0: i gtk_config isn't in that package i don't think.
[17:29] <torque> hello
[17:29] <g_0_0> ptknight, also- sudo apt-get install texi2html
[17:29] <milamber> g_0_0: let me see . . .
[17:29] <fazilet> ello
[17:29] <|Long|> have anyone here used remote desktop? i used realvnc client so lagging
[17:30] <fazilet> hello
[17:30] <fazilet> anyone there
[17:30] <compdoc> |Long|, you using tigervnc?
[17:30] <torque> use rteamviewer
[17:30] <|Long|> thanks
[17:30] <fazilet> 'M FROM TURKEY
[17:30] <ptknight> g_0_0: the first one was already there (http://paste.ubuntu.com/563481/) but the second installed correctly. I'll do the ./configure again
[17:30] <fazilet> how  r u
[17:31] <LjL> fazilet: try #ubuntu-tr if you want to speak turkish
[17:31] <torque> |Long|, use teamviewer
[17:31] <nickGGG> hi, can someone help me configure postfix ?
[17:31] <|Long|> torque, thanks
[17:31] <fazilet> I wanna meet new
[17:31] <torque> its the best remote desktop soft
[17:31] <viktor133> could anybody pls recommend a ocr program for working with scanned pdf, or another way of getting scanned pdf to workable text? pretty pls
[17:31] <fazilet> people
[17:31] <fazilet> from
[17:31] <fazilet> different
[17:31] <FloodBot2> fazilet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <nickGGG> hi, can someone help me configure postfix ?
[17:31] <fazilet> countries
[17:32] <viktor133> fazilet: maybe look for a social chatroom?
[17:32] <g_0_0> ptknight, you may also want to install imagemagick - sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[17:32] <nickGGG> anyone here used postfix ?? i need help
[17:32] <fazilet> can't it be here
[17:33] <SungSam> hi all!
[17:34] <ptknight> g_0_0: done. Running ./configure
[17:34] <troker> nick_h, #postfix
[17:34] <fazilet> I'm looking for male and female friens
[17:34] <g_0_0> ptknight, try make and see what you get
[17:34] <newbie123> hi what do you guys think of fedora???
[17:34] <greppy> !ot | newbie123
[17:34] <fazilet> I'm a female
[17:34] <greppy> !ot | fazilet
[17:35] <torque> hey guys is there any other soft like xchat which is GPL
[17:36] <SungSam> I'm getting imminent hard disk failure from SMART. I could only log into my second account of my ubuntu 10.4. The reallocated sector count value is almost 1000. I read somewhere that it might be Smart issue not my ATA hdd (which is like 3 months old!!). What can I do, guys?
[17:36] <torque> hey any1help plzz
[17:37] <Luvz2drv> Hey all i just noticed from my install last night i am not getting any sound output to my headphones. any pointers
[17:38] <g_0_0> Luvz2drv, in the terminal try typing - alsactl init
[17:38] <ptknight> g_0_0: same Scheiße… Keeps complaining about gtk even thogh it is installed. Make fails also with the same erros
[17:39] <SungSam> Luvz - make sure all the settings are fine and devices.
[17:39] <nickGGG> anyone here used postfix ?? i need help
[17:39] <soreau> !irc|torque
[17:39] <bbordwell> SungSam, drives most often fail when new so it is not that unlikely that the drive is failing. If you dont trust the smart readings your getting try looking at them from a different operating system of computer
[17:40] <greenIT> hi, i need help with ubuntu 11.04 alpha: unity doesn't start anymore... how can i make it work again?
[17:40] <Luvz2drv> g_0_0 : Hardware is initialized using a generic method
[17:40] <torque> ubottu, thx man
[17:40] <g_0_0> ptknight, there may be a fault in the makefile can you paste it
[17:40] <g_0_0> Luvz2drv, do you have sound in your headphones now?
[17:41] <per_> need some help can only run ubuntu 10.10 in recovery mode. have no display when running in normal modus
[17:41] <Luvz2drv> g_0_0 : No
[17:41] <SungSam> bborwell, I did from live CD, it looked like smart is right, but who knows... But can I fix it?
[17:41] <g_0_0> Luvz2drv, if not in the terminal type alsamixer and check that the channel isn't muted navigate the channels with the left and right arrows, up and down arrows to change the volume
[17:41] <mythid> can anyone help me... how to I put a program icon on the top bar on xubuntu?
[17:42] <bindi> Is it possible to have icons only in the window switcher?
[17:42] <SungSam> mythid click on it with right mouse button.
[17:42] <bbordwell> SungSam, reallocated sectors is from a bad drive, it must be returned for replacement under warranty
[17:42] <g_0_0> ptknight, I think the problem is cd ../src/.libs there is an extra . before libs
[17:42] <mythid> it doesnt do anything when i do
[17:42] <ptknight> g_0_0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/563492/ I took the source from here: goo.gl/t3Isf
[17:42] <g_0_0> ptknight, so it can't find the directory
[17:42] <KBentley57> does anyone have experience with DynDNS?
[17:43] <greenIT> i need help with unity, it doesn't work anymore (ubuntu 11.04)
[17:43] <SungSam> I see... So formating won't help?
[17:43] <KBentley57> sam, a bad sector is a physical defect in the drive
[17:43] <lazaruspc> hi, I installed Xubuntu to one partition, and set the home folder on another - if I reinstall Xubuntu, will it keep my home folder where it is?
[17:43] <gpc> !11.04 | greenIT
[17:44] <KBentley57> be it a very tiny one
[17:44] <greenIT> gpc, thx
[17:44] <|Long|> have anyone here installed glftpd on ubuntu 10.10?
[17:44] <Announcement> does ubuntu support dual screens
[17:44] <torque> hey guys can anyone tell me what is M23
[17:44] <greppy> Announcement: yes.
[17:45] <SungSam> ok. Guys, I'm also getting DRDY ERR in dmesg and failed to read DMA, is it because of those sectors?
[17:45] <llutz> torque: http://m23.sourceforge.net
[17:45] <compdoc> SungSam, you have bad sectors?
[17:46] <SungSam> looks like it.
[17:46] <Announcement> you guys should really make the gui nicer
[17:46] <Announcement> then itd be ftw
[17:46] <torque> llutz,  know its link but i want to know what it does
[17:46] <trinikrono> lazaruspc: when you reinstall you need to tell it during the installer in the properties
[17:46] <Announcement> polish it and make it shiny like a mac
[17:46] <greppy> !ot | Announcement
[17:46] <Announcement> and have animations when you do stuff
[17:46] <greenIT> can i use unity with maverick too?
[17:46] <Announcement> can i have ubuntu free
[17:46] <Announcement> plz
[17:46] <Announcement> plz
[17:46] <compdoc> SungSam, open system>administration, disk utility
[17:46] <FloodBot2> Announcement: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <lazaruspc> trinikrono: thanks
[17:47] <llutz> torque: why don't you just read "what is m23?"
[17:47] <SungSam> i have it opened.
[17:47] <rmi> Hi, is this the place i can get help on Transmission?
[17:47] <torque> k
[17:47] <rmi> I started a torrent but it doesn't start the download
[17:47] <compdoc> select your drive from the list, and click the Smart Data butoon
[17:47] <compdoc> button
[17:47] <bbordwell> rmi, you can get help with transmission here (assuming you mean the bit torrent client ;))
[17:48] <rmi> yep
[17:48] <compdoc> look for reallocated sector count
[17:48] <rmi> so it doesn't start downloading
[17:48] <Citron> Bonjour?
[17:48] <gpc> !fr | Citron Bonjour
[17:48] <Citron> okay
[17:48] <Citron> Hello
[17:49] <gpc> Hello
[17:49] <bbordwell> rmi, when you open a torrent it will ask you which files in the torrent you would like to download (usualy you leave them all selected) did this happen?
[17:49] <Citron> does anybody knows how wrong it is to have erased 'env'
[17:49] <KBentley57> rmi,what is the torrent? link?
[17:49] <Citron> (usr/bin/env)
[17:49] <niteowl> can anyone help me with some questions about setting up a production web server?
[17:49] <rmi> bbordwell, yes
[17:49] <g_0_0> ptknight, do you need version 3.08 - could you try a different version from here http://gnu.spinellicreations.com/gnu/xnee/ just to see if you can get it to compile
[17:49] <SungSam> I have two red warnings, compdoc: Reallocated sector count with value of 954 and current pending sect.c. Normalized 98 and worst of 97.
[17:50] <bbordwell> rmi, does it just say 0 connected peers now or what?
[17:50] <compdoc> SungSam, anything greater than zero bad sectors is bad
[17:50] <KBentley57> +1 comp
[17:50] <rmi> bbordwell, where do I check that
[17:50] <SungSam> I know. In dmesg I get DRDY ERR, is it because of this?
[17:50] <KBentley57> your drive will probably be fine for few months, but I wouldn't trust it for anything usefull
[17:50] <compdoc> very liekly
[17:50] <bbordwell> well the torrent you opened is listed correct?
[17:51]  * M3de is back (gone 00:00:12)
[17:51]  * M3de is away: Estoy ocupado
[17:51] <trinikrono> SungSam you should return the drive
[17:51] <compdoc> but cabling could be bad. or other things
[17:51] <rmi> bbordwell, It reads "donwloading from 0 of 0 connected peers"
[17:51] <sudipta> is there any GUI front end to change system sound in ubuntu 10.10?
[17:51] <compdoc> SungSam, is it a sata drive?
[17:51] <rmi> bbordwell, it seems to be listed correctly
[17:51] <SungSam> what is it that DRDY and failed to read DMA?
[17:51] <SungSam> I think I will trinikrono.
[17:51] <trinikrono> sudipta: its done in the themes alone now
[17:51] <MC8> Is there a version of XAMPP for ubuntu/an easy way to run a localhost server?
[17:52] <niteowl> anyone running an ubuntu webserver?
[17:52] <santi> Hello! I have a problem. Today I created a CUPS-server which is locally reachable via 10.0.0.38 (it's running on Debian). Here I use Ubuntu and want to connect to the CUPS-server. Everything is OK till this point but after I connected to the server and installed the printer, the printer doesn't appear in the printing dialog?
[17:52] <compdoc> I would have to guess thats a communication error
[17:52] <trinikrono> MC8:  yes
[17:52] <bbordwell> rmi, yes 0 connected peers mean there is no one connected at the time seeding or leeching. this does not happen with all torrent does it?
[17:52] <SungSam> ok. Thanks guys!
[17:52] <ptknight> g_0_0: I don't have .libs anywhere, neither libs. I ran make (without the install) and a lot happened but .libs was not created http://paste.ubuntu.com/563499/ After that the make install still failed.
[17:52] <rmi> bbordwell, I'm doning my first attempt now
but cant it be manually changed?....like it used to be in 8.04.
[17:53] <rmi> bbrordwell, both files have the same
[17:53] <trinikrono> sudipta: exactly
[17:53] <Citron> nobody knows what does the ex  usr/bin/env
[17:53] <Citron> ?
[17:53] <ptknight> g_0_0: the prob is that only 3.08 works with 11.04
how then?
[17:53] <g_0_0> ptknight, arf
[17:53] <bbordwell> rmi, it seems to me that transmition is working fine just the torrent you downloaded is not very active
[17:54] <trinikrono> look at bug 324700
[17:54] <Gwar_Trolle> Hi all. I have a script I have written here. Is there any way to force it to run through a terminal, even if the user selects "run"? (or alternatively, some way to give an error telling them to run it via terminal?)
[17:54] <g_0_0> ptknight, I'm not sure then sorry
[17:54] <rmi> bbordwel, any active torrents i could use to test
[17:54] <ptknight> g_0_0: cool! thanks for your help!
[17:54] <bbordwell> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[17:54] <rumpe1> Citron, man env:  env - run a program in a modified environment
[17:55] <trinikrono> sudipta:  https://launchpad.net/bugs/324700 here
[17:55] <trinikrono> you can click this affects me
[17:55] <bbordwell> rmi, try 10.10 amd64
how then?
[17:55] <coz_> Gwar_Trolle,  I may be wrong..however..can't you right click the script  go to Properties   Openwith  tab and set it as gnome-terminal
[17:55] <trinikrono> come in #ubuntu-bugs sudipta
[17:55] <rmi> bbordwell, trying now, tks
[17:55] <bbordwell> I have over 40 connected peers after about 1 min
[17:55] <wookiehangover> hey gang, anyone else having problems with Xorg 1.9 + Nvidia
[17:56] <Announcement> whats diff between laptop and desktop version
[17:56] <wookiehangover> and if so, is there a workable solution to that yet
[17:56] <Gwar_Trolle> coz_: that would be a iuser setting. :( I need something in the script so it will open a terminal and then pipe the script though it. I know how to open the terminal, but not how to make it run through that opened terminal
[17:56] <teage> How do I uninstall zsnes? Had to install it manually on my 64 bit lucid. Now i cant undo it.
[17:56] <frxstrem> does the Moonlight plugin for Chromium (moonlight-plugin-chromium in the repos) work with Google Chrome too, and if so, is there a way to install it without having to install Chromium?
[17:56] <Gwar_Trolle> teage: use synaptic
[17:56] <Citron> rumpe1: ok, so it doesn't really matter?
[17:56] <Gwar_Trolle> if it's not there, manually delete the files by hand
[17:57] <Chaosratt> Need some quick help on setting a simple script to start at boot, there is some conflict on google on how it should be done. I have a simlpe script (/home/me/myscript.sh), how do I make this run boot?
[17:57] <Announcement> whats moonlight
[17:57] <rumpe1> Citron, depends what you are trying to do
[17:57] <Announcement> does ubuntu support bluetooth
[17:57] <adminar> yes
[17:57] <teage> Gwar_Trolle, I didnt think of that, I was trying with the software center, will give it a shot
[17:57] <rmi> bbordwell, tks! that is probably the problem the torrents are not very active. The ubuntu one started in 2 secs. I'll wait the others to become active as well
[17:57] <AbhijiT> !bluetooth | Announcement
[17:57] <adminar> Announcement, yes
[17:57] <xangua>  !info moonlight | Announcement
[17:57] <Gwar_Trolle> Chaosratt: does this script need sudo privs?
ok ...i've got that one....thanx
[17:57] <Chaosratt> Gwar_Trolle: No, should run as me
[17:58] <adminar> ubottu, moonlight installs in maverick also
[17:58] <xangua> !info moonlight-plugin-mozilla  | Announcement adminar
[17:58] <Gwar_Trolle> Chaosratt: then run "gnome-session-properties" and add the script to the list of things to run at startup ;)
[17:58] <chado> erk
[17:58] <teage> Gwar_Trolle, Just as i feared, It does not show up in my search, like its not even there, but it is
[17:58] <Gwar_Trolle> Chaosratt: just make sure to allow the script to run as an executable
[17:58] <adminar> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
[17:58] <adminar> Announcement, http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
[17:58] <Chaosratt> Gwar_Trolle: Its a headless server (VM actually), no X or gnome
[17:58] <FloodBot2> adminar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <rumpe1> Citron, look at the output of "env" ... if you want to change some of the entries for the execution of a command, you could use env for a modified environment.
[17:59] <bbordwell> rmi, If you are using a torrent search engine it should show torrent 'health' you always want to look for torrent with lots of 'seeders'
[17:59] <Gwar_Trolle> Chaosratt: ah, use the init.d method then (if you found it via google)
[17:59] <adminar> FloodBot2, what are u saying
[17:59] <sudipta> how to make a script residing in a folder(other than ~) executable?
[17:59] <adminar> Announcement, http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/
[17:59] <Citron> rumpe1:  i don't think i need it, but can you tell me how to get it back?
[17:59] <Chaosratt> Gwar_Trolle: to be specific, this is the script that starts the Minecraft server, just want it to be started at boot
[17:59] <sarthor> HI, i am not able to see this fonts, how can i install , I am using 10.10 , http://img820.imageshack.us/f/screenshotwk.png/
[17:59] <Gwar_Trolle> teage: either go and manually delete the files then, or don't worry about it since zsens is small
[18:00] <rumpe1> Citron, get back what?
[18:00] <sarthor> same fonts, http://daisperdais.com/?p=4817
[18:00] <Chaosratt> Gwar_Trolle: Is that the rc.local method? just add "sh /home/me/myscript.sh" to the end of it?
[18:00] <Citron> rumpe1: env
[18:00] <viktor133> can anybody help me with a ocr problem?
[18:00] <Gwar_Trolle> Chaosratt: not exactly.
[18:00] <teage> Gwar_Trolle, i will be leaving it i think, thanks
[18:01] <rumpe1> Citron, it's included in the package "coreutils" ...
[18:01] <sudipta> how to make a script residing in a folder(other than ~) executable?
[18:01] <MC8> trinikrono: care to elaborate?
[18:01] <llutz> Citron: sudo apt-get install --reinstall coreutils
[18:01] <MC8> oh,  ne'er mind
[18:01] <Chaosratt> Gwar_Trolle: I'm really new to scripting and I havnt the faintest idea how to write a "proper" init.d startup script
[18:02] <rumpe1> sudipta, insert shebang and use command "chmod +x script.sh"
[18:02] <Rishav_T> sudipta: right click the script>>properties>>Permissions>>Allow executing (tick that check box)
[18:02] <trinikrono> MC8: it is on the xammp website :D
[18:02] <rumpe1> sudipta, exactly like in ~... there's no difference
[18:03] <drbanzai> What's a good inexpensive NAS device that supports rsync?  Or, what would be a better option do make a backup of a file server on the local network?
[18:03] <Gwar_Trolle> Chaosratt: as root (obv) go to /etc/init.d and copy the script there. then run "update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults"
i've tried that one but does not seem to work in 10.10:(
[18:03] <Gwar_Trolle> that will cause it to run on startup for all runlevels Chaosratt
[18:03] <rumpe1> sudipta, what have you tried or why do you think it doesn't work?
[18:03] <viktor133> OCRfeeder doesn't work and i need to get scanned pdf to workable text, can anybody give me some advice/recommends?
[18:03] <Gwar_Trolle> Chaosratt: run "update-rc.d <name> defaults" in init.d of course
[18:04] <milamber> sudipta: how are you going about it. (you probably just need to add sudo)
[18:04] <milamber> ?*
 what doesnt it have that you guys think it should/are working on
[18:04] <Gwar_Trolle> Anyway, good luck chaosratt, i am off :D
[18:04] <sarthor> HI, i am not able to see this fonts, how can i install , I am using 10.10 , http://img820.imageshack.us/f/screenshotwk.png/
[18:04] <lazarus_> where is the ubuntu one irc
tried it myself.....
[18:04] <Citron> rumpe1:   llutz thanks, proceeding
[18:04] <Chaosratt> Gwar_Trolle:  Thank you
[18:04] <lazarus_> channel ?
[18:04] <milamber> lazarus_: ubuntu+1
[18:05] <Rishav_T> sudipta: does it say "file not found"? then you have to give the complete path. as in chmod +x complete_path_to_file.sh. Thats why files in the home folder (~) work.
yeah...tried that one too
[18:05] <sarthor> can any one tell me, what font is this, http://daisperdais.com/?p=4817
[18:05] <Announcement> rofl?
[18:06] <milamber> sudipta: then you have to be more specific. as in i try this: <whatever you type> i get this <whatever the output is> and i expected this <what you thought would happen>
[18:06] <Announcement> * ChanServ sets mode: +o FloodBot2
[18:06] <Announcement> * ChanServ sets mode: +o FloodBot3
[18:06] <Announcement> * ChanServ sets mode: +o FloodBot1
[18:06] <Citron> not going to bother you more, thanks sweeties
[18:07] <Announcement> bye guys
[18:07] <Rishav_T> bye Announcement
[18:07] <Announcement> wrong chan
[18:07] <Announcement> sry
[18:08] <sudipta> actuallyn i was triyng to run a script from my mounted hdd......but it does not seem to work
[18:08] <viktor133> OCRfeeder doesn't work and i need to get scanned pdf to workable text, can anybody give me some advice/recommends?
[18:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: you are trying to auto mount?
[18:08] <drbanzai> What's a good inexpensive NAS device that supports rsync?  Or, what would be a better option to make a backup of a file server on the local network?  Is there an older low power device that I could install FreeNAS onto?
[18:08] <abhijain> can any body suggest me how can i remove header from 2nd page in open office.
[18:08] <Rishav_T> sudipta: Is the HDD formatted in NTFS? then I dont think you can make scripts executable there. Otherwise just cd into /media/<volume_name> and chmod +x file.sh
no ....hdd is manually mounted
 yeah...it is NTFS....but seems to work in 10.04
[18:10] <abhijain> AbhijiT, i have created a doc file and the header on first page is similary appearing on all pages . i want to delete it from 2 and 3rd page but dnt have idea how to
[18:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: i got here late...lol...i just caught "trying to make a script for the hdd", what is the actual issue?
from /media/_volume
[18:10] <AbhijiT> abhijain, i dont think you can do that. header will apear on all pages. you get header on first page in text box
[18:11] <Rishav_T> sudipta: okayy, just try running it with bash. as in type in "bash script.sh". No need to chmod then.
[18:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: i'm still lost.
[18:11] <abhijain> AbhijiT, not getting ??
[18:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: you have something mounted there.  what's the question
[18:12] <AbhijiT> abhijain, i mean remove the header thingy. and then on first page just insert a text box and in that write your desired header. so it will not appear on following pages
[18:12] <Rishav_T> Us3r_Unfriendly: I think sudipta wants to make a script executable in an NTFS partition mounted at /media/whatever. Its not working with "chmod +x file.sh".
[18:12] <lazarus_> milamber: thanks :)
[18:13] <abhijain> AbhijiT, no,
[18:13] <AbhijiT> abhijain, why?
[18:13] <abhijain> AbhijiT, same problem
[18:13] <ptknight> is bored
[18:13] <AbhijiT> ptknight, #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <milamber> abhijain: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/FormattingPagesAndDocuments/How_do_I_make_a_header_appear_on_only_the_first_page_of_my_document%3F
[18:13] <AbhijiT> abhijain, see what milamber is saying
my hard disk is partitioned in 2....one for linux itself and another one for storing everything else....i cant make any script or binary executable in this 2nd partition
[18:13] <milamber> lazarus_: np
[18:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Rishav_T: like make a script executible in a windows partition from a linux partition?
[18:13] <th_> what is this? ** (gnome-mplayer:12888): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_disconnect_signal: assertion `!DBUS_G_PROXY_DESTROYED (proxy)' failed
[18:14] <Rishav_T> Us3r_Unfriendly: yea, thats what I think.
[18:14] <th_> that happens when trying to play stream with gnome-mplayer
exactly....but it used to work with 10.04
[18:16] <Rishav_T> sudipta: yea. I'm on 10.04, and its working :P when I was using maverick It didn't.
[18:16] <Rishav_T> sudipta, Us3r_Unfriendly: I'm sry, g2g now. Have an imp exam tomorrow. as far as running the script is concerned, try "bash path_to_file.sh". If that doesn't work, just copy the script to home folder and run it.
[18:16] <ruben_hood> hi, somebody knows how i could automount in every login the network folder //servidor/linux/%(DOMAIN_USER) on the path /home/local/%(DOMAIN_NAME)/%(DOMAIN_USER)/server ? i would need this to be default on every user. thanks!
[18:16] <th_> what is this? ** (gnome-mplayer:12888): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_disconnect_signal: assertion `!DBUS_G_PROXY_DESTROYED (proxy)' failed. just installed gnome mplayer thingy. it doesnt play v stream that works perfectly in browser
[18:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: why not "sudo mv -f /media/_volume/FILE ~/ && chmod +x ~/FILE && mv -f ~/FILE /media/_volume
[18:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> "
[18:17] <milamber> !automount | ruben_hood
yeah...but can't it be other way around
[18:17] <sudipta> ?
[18:17] <The-Compiler> heya, wanna backup my data before reinstalling. I saved /home, /etc and a list of all packages, anything else important I forgot?
[18:17] <detrix42> Hi, how do I determine the "VGA=" my boot up?  I want my tty1 through tty6 to have a better resolution.
[18:17] <JT13> whats the terminal command to find out what version of a specfic application i have installed?
[18:18] <llutz> JT13:  apt-cache policy <package>
[18:18] <detrix42> I have HP wide scree with 1600x900 resolution.
[18:18] <JT13> llutz, thank you
[18:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: i don't understand why you can't make it executible from just in the ntfs partition.  i've never ran into this issue.
[18:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> JT13: such as what app though?
[18:18] <ruben_hood> thanks! ubottu, could i use parameters like "%(DOMAIN_NAME)" or "%(DOMAIN_USER)" to determine the path?
[18:19] <JT13> Us3r_Unfriendly,  virtualbox
well...i can't understand that either...
[18:19] <Viliny> is there anything i can do in ubuntu to really make the desktop look overly cluttered and shiny? besides normal theme changes?
[18:19] <rigved> !brain | ruben_hood
it used to work in 10.04....but i'm in 10.10 now
[18:19] <ruben_hood> thanks ubottu for the explanation about the modern way!
[18:19] <ilwr> how to install cheese 2.32.0 on Ubuntu karmic?
[18:19] <JT13> Viliny,  cairo dock
[18:19] <rigved> ruben_hood: ubottu is a bot
[18:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> JT13: you could just start v-box and go to help>about virtualbox to determin what version you have
[18:20] <lazarus_> is there a way to make an sh script interact with U1
[18:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: something is wrong then.  you should be able to that task no problem
[18:21] <AbhijiT> lazarus_, #ubuntuone
[18:21] <milamber> sudipta: several people have asked, but i still can't tell what the actual problem is. we get you are trying to run a program. what are you typing, what is the error?
[18:21] <nijabo> Can't get my wifi to work properly. Anyone had the problem of you being able to see the network but you can't login? I use the correct password and everything. (wired works)
[18:21] <ruben_hood> rigved i would thank you ! but what if you are a bot too? :D
[18:21] <lazarus_> AbhijiT: thanks
[18:22] <rigved> ruben_hood: no need to thank me!
in /media/volume i tried "chmod +x script" and after that ./script but it says "no such file or directory"
[18:22] <milamber> lazarus_: are you talking about creating an irc bot w/ bash?
[18:23] <lazarus_> milamber: no
[18:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta:   what happens when you do it by gui?  say if you open a nautilus window in that directory, and right click the file and go to properties.  Then go to the permissions tab and tic the "allow executing file as program"?
[18:23] <JT13> ok dumb question. how do i upgrade it if i'm like three versions behind current Us3r_Unfriendly?? I installed it today through software center and its only 3.2.8 not 4.0.2
[18:23] <milamber> sudipta: 64 or 32 bit ubuntu?
can u help?
32 bit
[18:24] <JT13> Us3r_Unfriendly,  i ran "sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade" and they didnt upgrade it
tried that one too....but :(
[18:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> JT13: i don't use the one from the software center due to not being able to use flashdrives in the vbox.  I go to sun's website and download their version from there
[18:25] <JT13> ok thanx
[18:25] <th_> what is this? ** (gnome-mplayer:12888): CRITICAL **: dbus_g_proxy_disconnect_signal: assertion `!DBUS_G_PROXY_DESTROYED (proxy)' failed. just installed gnome mplayer thingy. it doesnt play v stream that works perfectly in browser
[18:25] <wookiehangover> anyone been having nvidia problems?
[18:25] <wookiehangover> *bump
[18:25] <milamber> sudipta: pastebin the output of ls -al <filename>
 whenever i checks the box...it automatically gets unchecked
[18:26] <rigved> !ask | wookiehangover
[18:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> very weird, why do you have to have the script located on the ntfs partition?
[18:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta:
[18:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: what's the script for if you don't mind me asking?
[18:27] <sudipta> http://pastebin.com/54RVywmN
[18:27] <wookiehangover> rigved nvidia proprietary drivers are broken with Xorg 1.9
[18:27] <wookiehangover> ?
[18:27] <wookiehangover> (that means it's a question)
nothing secret i guess... any normal script or binary file
http://pastebin.com/54RVywmN
[18:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: sudo chmod 755 FILE && chmod +x FILE
[18:28] <milamber> sudipta: those file permissions are not right, not even a little bit
[18:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: yes, it don't look like you have permission to change them
[18:29] <rigved> wookiehangover: which ubuntu version do you have?
what....but that's the output
[18:29] <oCean> Us3r_Unfriendly: the 755 equals +x
[18:29] <wookiehangover> 10.10
[18:30] <wookiehangover> and I've tried the 260 and the 270 drivers
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> You cant chmod a file on a ntfs filesystem.
[18:30] <wookiehangover> 260 is more stable, but has color issues and tends to crash or hang
[18:30] <milamber> sudipta: ls -al tells us what the file permissions are. the r and w stand for Read and Write. where they are indicate that the user (sudipta) has these.
[18:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: that's lame
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  no its not.. how CAN you change them . when ntfs dosent support the permissions feature..
[18:30] <wookiehangover> nomodeset doens't fix the problem
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  you cant change them on vfat/fat/fat32 either.. same reason.
yeah...then what's the problem?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  i imagine the same limit is on other nonlinux filesystems also. :)
[18:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: how was sudipta able to in a previous version of ubuntu?
but it used to work in 10.04
[18:32] <oCean> sudipta: is it an ntfs partition?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  you set the permissions for a NTFS when you mount it. or the system does.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  the ntfs-config tool can tweak the defaults. Or you can mount it yourself and set them how you want.
yep
[18:32] <milamber> sudipta: several people have told you already. ntfs doesn't support changing the file permissions and the file doesn't have an executable bit set. try copying it to an ext3 or 4 fs
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[18:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: thanks
[18:32] <rigved> wookiehangover: no do not use the drivers available on the nvidia website. use the ones available in the ubuntu repos. is your 10.10 OS updated to the latest?
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> You an set it where ntfs/vfat have EVERYTHING marked as executable.. but that can be even more annoying.
[18:33] <viktor133> can anybody pls tell me a good ocr program?
[18:33] <wookiehangover> rigved: yes, everything is up to date
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> !ocr
[18:33] <vooze> Hey, i have a problem with apache2.. happend without me doing anything.. just stopped and cant restart.. Log is here.. http://pastebin.com/Rdu709W4
but it used to work in 10.04....by default
[18:34] <viktor133> ubottu, thnks
how about the second option
[18:34] <Announcement> ahh
[18:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudipta: it might be a new feature in 10.10 of not having it on by default...weird huh?
[18:34] <erUSUL> vooze: something else or another instance of apache is using port 80
[18:34] <Announcement> ubuntu.com is chinese!!!
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  how about it?  ntfs-3g docs show how to make a proper fstab 3ntry or do it from the command line.
[18:34] <erUSUL> vooze: this should tell what--> sudo lsof -i :80
ok then....:(
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> Night all.. bed time for the Dr.
[18:36] <Announcement> what should  i use to burn iso to cd
[18:37] <KB1JWQ> Announcement: I usually use dd.
[18:37] <KB1JWQ> !iso | Announcement
[18:37] <mongy> Announcement, right click it, write to disc.
[18:37] <KB1JWQ> Er.
[18:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Announcement: i love k3b
[18:37] <KB1JWQ> !burning | Announcement
[18:37] <Announcement> from windows
[18:37] <ruben_hood> somebody knows how i could automount in every login the network folder //servidor/linux/%(DOMAIN_USER) on the path /home/local/%(DOMAIN_NAME)/%(DOMAIN_USER)/server ? i need %(DOMAIN_NAME) and %(DOMAIN_USER) to be assigned depending of who log in. and i would need this to be default on every user. thanks!
[18:37] <viktor133> ubottu: where do i find gocr-gtk?
i read the manual of ntfs-3g and it says "" By  default,  files and directories are owned by the effective user and
[18:37] <sudipta>        group of the mounting process, and everybody has full read, write, execution and directory browsing permissions."
[18:37] <KB1JWQ> Announcement: Off topic, but I like isorecorder.
[18:38] <Announcement> omgz that was so spammy
[18:38] <rigved> wookiehangover: hmmm...have you tried booting into failsafex mode?
[18:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Announcement: k3b also downloads some kde dependencies though
[18:38] <j_ayen_green> is it possible to execute a smbmount command when booting rather than create a fstab entry? I have a nas device, and know the format of the mount command, and smbmount command, but when I tried creating a fstab entry I ended up having to boot from a livecd
[18:38] <viktor133> can anybody tell me where to find gocr-gtk or any other good ocr program for gnome?
[18:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Announcement: also are you on windows burning a iso or are you on linux burning an iso?
[18:38] <craigbass1976> I've got a neighbor on a pretty slow connection.  The openjdk update is stalling and dying.  Can I jsut grab a package off of my already updated computer and run over with a thumb drive to do the update that way?
[18:39] <yeats> !ocr | viktor133
[18:39] <erUSUL> !offline | craigbass1976
[18:39] <milamber> sudipta: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5069/cant-set-permissions-for-files-on-an-ntfs-partition
[18:39] <viktor133> yeats: yeah i got that, but i can't download it, so is in a repo i don't have?...
[18:40] <Pici> viktor133: hrm, looks like that factoid is out of date, gocr hasn't been  in the repositories since hardy.
[18:40] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, then what about on the target box?
[18:40] <viktor133> pici: that explains, you know any good ocr program? ocrfeeder doesn't work
[18:40] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: run the script; it will use wget to dl the packages then you copy over the debs and install them
[18:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> find is a awesome command, it just saved me
[18:41] <Pici> viktor133: I'd be guessing, there are a few other graphical ocr programs in the output of 'apt-cache search ocr'.  Such as gocr-tk, or ocropus
[18:42] <yeats> !find ocr
[18:42] <viktor133> pici: i just downloaded ocropus, but i can't get it open, it doesn't even show on find or locate
[18:43] <milamber> viktor133: dpkg -l | grep ocropus
[18:43] <Pici> viktor133: Looks like the executable it ships is ocroscript
[18:43] <wookiehangover> rigved: ya, I can get into failsafe mode
[18:43] <magn3ts> Anyone ever play with their DPI settings? I lowered my DPI and increased my font size and my Ubuntu just got about 100x sexier.
[18:44] <milen8204> Hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to move my Docky doks to a randomly places at my desktop?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> viktor133: if you type ocro in a terminal and press TAB you will get suggestions
[18:44] <magn3ts> Is it pardoning time?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> millertimek1a2m3: in the docky settings you can set the side as well as the position
[18:45]  * jrib nods at magn3ts
[18:45] <yeats> heh
[18:45] <milen8204> Hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to move my Docky doks to a randomly places at my desktop?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> magnet_: post a how to on the ubuntuforums to share, i'll check it out (just about to install natty but will be back after install)
[18:45] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, I keep getting an empty file. Is there a walkthrough?
[18:45] <rigved> wookiehangover: now execute this command: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:45] <Announcement> isorecorder fail
[18:45] <vikas> please can anyone tell me, that  how to register the nick? i want to register my nick in #fedora.
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> !register
[18:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> vikas: /msg nickserv help
[18:46] <rigved> wookiehangover: this will allow you to boot normally.
[18:46] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, not much a tutorial, lower the dpi and increase the font size, done.
[18:46] <Announcement> how big should ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386 be
[18:46] <Announcement> on win
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: where is DPI lowered?
[18:46] <magn3ts> I guess I could post side-by-side screenshots or something.
[18:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> fedora eew
[18:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> kidding
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: yeah that'd be cool :)
[18:46] <vikas> Us3r_Unfriendly, thank you let me try
[18:46] <milamber> !md5 | Announcement
[18:46] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, gnome-appearance-preferences where you change the font, but in the advanced page.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Announcement: use MD5 testing to check if your image is complete and consistent
[18:47] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: you go to synaptic. search the jdk ( or the package you want to install ) mark it for instalation ( accept yto mark  the dependencies too if any ). instead of clicking in the aply button go to File>generate dl script
[18:47] <claudio_> server irc.openjoke.org
[18:47] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, you mean mark for REinstallation?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: what DPI do you suggest?
[18:49] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: the script have to be generated in the machine that you want to install the package to ( your neighbours? ) and the script run in the one that have the internet connection ( yours ? )
[18:49] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: or maybe use aptoncd
[18:49] <erUSUL> !aptoncd | craigbass1976
[18:50] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: in rhe case of aptondcd you run it in your computer and move the cd to your neighbours ...
[18:50] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, ahhh,  I thought it was the other way around.  I was hoping to just run next door with a .deb or something.
[18:50] <Viliny> any reason one would want to use ubuntu server edition as a desktop installation?
[18:50] <Viliny> like, kernel priority on certain things or summat
[18:51] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: see aptoncd then
[18:51] <craigbass1976> Viliny, it might come with less stuff that you don't need
[18:51] <Gwar_Trolle> Hi all. I have a script I have written here. Is there any way to force it to run through a terminal, even if the user selects "run"? (or alternatively, some way to give an error telling them to run it via terminal?)
[18:51] <craigbass1976> !aptoncd
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> jrib: can you recommend a DPI to set? Sounds like you do the lower DPI thig like magn3ts states
[18:51] <magn3ts> I used 86.
[18:51] <craigbass1976> !offline
[18:51] <milamber> Viliny: ubuntu server uses the same repos as the desktop. the server edition makes it easier to install server meta-packages.
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: cheers, lets see how this flys
[18:52] <magn3ts> some apps prefer to be restarted.
[18:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gwar_Trolle: #!/bin/bash  (nextline)   gnome-terminal -x YOUR_COMMAND
[18:52] <jrib> ActionParsnip: I leave it at default, I guess it depends on the size of your monitor vs its resolution
[18:52] <Gwar_Trolle> Us3r_Unfriendly: Thank you. :) Gotta love *nix. 4 hours of trouble for a 3 second solution ;)
[18:52] <magn3ts> Inconsolata looks a lot better and the "Ubuntu" font is reasonably sized without being too narrow or tall now. :)
[18:52] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: i think 96 is default.. i've lowered mine to 92
[18:52] <Viliny> gotcha milamber, thanks :)
[18:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gwar_Trolle: what's *nix?
[18:52] <komp> Hi , I delated this smal picture  ( speaker ) from left side of clock in right top corner , can enybody help me to return his back ?:)
[18:53] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, the aptoncd pretty much is running over there with some .deb files, yes?
[18:53] <Gwar_Trolle> Us3r_Unfriendly: {wildcard}Nix, a common nickname for Unix Like Operating Systems :P
[18:53] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: yes
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: its not a good idea as the server kernel will make your desktop apps run slow compared to the desktop. if you need a desktop OS, use the desktop
[18:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i never heard that before, i learn something as well, so thank you too Gwar_Trolle
[18:54] <Gwar_Trolle> yay for Communism! I mean FOSS! :P
[18:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gwar_Trolle: whoa, not in this room
[18:55] <milamber> Viliny: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What%27s%20the%20difference%20between%20desktop%20and%20server?
[18:55] <Announcement> safety
[18:55] <Viliny> ActionParsnip: thanks, thats exactly what i wanted to know
[18:55] <Viliny> any reason not to get 64 bit desktop edition? why is the 32bit recommended?
[18:55] <Gwar_Trolle> Villalinux: 64 bit sometimes has issues with 32 bit programs not working right
[18:55] <Blue1> Viliny: i run 64 bit desktop.  seems okay except for ff
[18:55] <Viliny> ff?
[18:56] <Blue1> Viliny: firefox
[18:56] <gamolas> fire fox
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: servers run background process most time is given to them rather than foreground apps like web browsers
[18:56] <Viliny> ouch, thats a major problem for me
[18:56] <Gwar_Trolle> Villalinux: also, if you dont have a dual core or better or 4GB+ ram, it doesn't make a performance difference
[18:56] <Viliny> i have a quad i7 with 6gb of ram :/
[18:56] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Viliny: in my opinion 32 is better with apps...such as flash and notify-osd w/ xwinwrap...for example
[18:56] <Gwar_Trolle> Viliny: FF = Firefox
[18:56] <Blue1> Viliny: ff worked fine in 10.04 for me, but locks up my system in 10.10 -- 64 bit.  nope not a flash issue.
[18:56] <Gwar_Trolle> Viliny: then get 64 bit :D
[18:56] <Blue1> chrome/opera work fine
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: use 64bit, some manufacturers like Canon only make 32bit drivers
[18:56] <Announcement> chrome ftw
[18:56] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, and these that I'm getting are new?  I can just dpkg -i blahjdkblah.deb and int will install the new one over the old one?
[18:56] <Gwar_Trolle> And stay =on 10.04. 10.10 is too fubar in my experience
[18:57] <Viliny> well, i can try 64 then
[18:57] <Gwar_Trolle> 10.04 is also an LTS
[18:57] <Viliny> any way to flip to 32?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Viliny: there is a 64bit native flash if you add an extra PPA ;)
[18:57] <magn3ts>  ActionParsnip what did you think?
[18:57] <Announcement> no
[18:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Viliny: Gwar_Trolle: there's a way to use 4 + gigs of ram on a 32 bit already
[18:57] <Blue1> 10.04 is lets and that is prolly best way to go, I am eval. debian squeeze atm
[18:57] <craigbass1976> Gwar_Trolle, too fubar.  hehe.  Never tried it, but I'll take your word for it
[18:57] <Announcement> flash will never be above 32
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: and increase font size you say
[18:57] <Gwar_Trolle> Us3r_Unfriendly: PAE kernals are useless
[18:57] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, yup yup
[18:57] <Blue1> Announcement: the 64 bit alpha flash worked great with 10.04
[18:57] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: yes; the cd that apt-oncd generates should be detected as a repositorie in the other machine and use to upgrade or you can use dpkg and the debs
[18:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gwar_Trolle: how so?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Announcement: how VERY wrong you are: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/install-64bit-flash-from-a-ppa-or-deb/
[18:58] <Announcement> ./clear
[18:58] <Gwar_Trolle> Us3r_Unfriendly: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1 an extensive benchmark of PAE vs 32 bit vs 64 bit kernals
[18:58] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, Ok, well I'm out of cd's, so I've got it on a thumb drive and am about to head over.
[18:58] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, thanks a bunch
[18:58] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: no problem
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Announcement: please dont spread incorrect information
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: the DPI seems to have made my touchpad smoother, just gonne do the font thing
[18:59] <magn3ts> o_0
[18:59] <magn3ts> weird
[18:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gwar_Trolle: i wouldn't say it's worthless in my opionion
[18:59] <Gwar_Trolle> Us3r_Unfriendly: -shrug- Each to his own ;)
[18:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gwar_Trolle: that i can agree with
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Gwar_Trolle: if there is a piece of hardware with only 32bit drivers then 32bit may be needed
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: yeah not bad at all, the DPI thing is a definate hit though :)
[19:01] <Gwar_Trolle> ActionParsnip: I did mention that :P
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Gwar_Trolle: cool :D
[19:01] <bullgard4> Banshee 1.8.0 times and again downloads a certain podcast item and does not stop. What's going wrong here?
[19:01] <ruben_hood> somebody knows how i could automount in every login the network folder //servidor/linux/%(DOMAIN_USER) on the path /home/local/%(DOMAIN_NAME)/%(DOMAIN_USER)/server ? i need %(DOMAIN_NAME) and %(DOMAIN_USER) to be assigned depending of who log in. and i would need this to be default on every user. thanks!
[19:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Gwar_Trolle: but i run a 64 so i can't say anything.  I'll be running a 32 when i buy my netbook
[19:01] <Blue1> ruben_hood: use uuid
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> right kids, see you on the natty side
[19:02] <Blue1> ruben_hood: http://pkill-9.com/?p=297
[19:02] <Announcement> STEALERS FTW
[19:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i personally like "ls -Ralh /dev/disk"
[19:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> much like tree -ash but tree isn't installed by default
[19:03] <Viliny> so i heard that i should install 64bits
[19:03] <Viliny> ill do that :P
[19:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Viliny: i mean it isn't bad.  Great for servers, but you'll have troubles with flash
[19:04] <ruben_hood> thanks! i can't see nothing about network and users, but thanks for help
[19:04] <th_> argh. what for is mplayer -vo switch? manual page is awful!
[19:04] <Viliny> can i get around the flash problems?
[19:05] <Viliny> doesn't ubuntu allow running 32 bit programs inside of it?
[19:05] <Viliny> i mean, losing half my ram is unappealing
[19:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Viliny: i just force installed the 32 bit flash-installer and echo'ed a command to my /etc/ to get it to work okay
[19:05] <Chouchou> hello world!
[19:05] <erUSUL> Viliny: flasd works ok in 64 bits ubuntu
[19:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> erUSUL: not for me it didn't
[19:06] <jrib> th_: "Specify a priority list of video output drivers to be used." from man page
[19:06] <Chouchou> I say "Hello World"!
[19:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> erUSUL: lots of crashes on a intergrated chipset
[19:06] <th_> jrib, thanks. did you use grep?
[19:06] <KBentley57> hey guys, this is probably in the wrong section, but does anyone know of a freeNAS channel?  I couldn't seem to find one on freenode
[19:06] <erUSUL> Us3r_Unfriendly: ok; flasd works ok in 64 bits ubuntu nvidia privative drivers
[19:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lol right
[19:06] <llutz> KBentley57: #freenas
[19:06] <jrib> th_: nope, just: /  -vo<enter>             (n and N to cycle)
[19:07] <KBentley57> hmm, chatzilla wouldn't find that one earlier..lol
[19:07] <llutz> KBentley57: /msg alis list *freenas*
[19:07] <detrix42> Hi, how do I determine the "VGA=" my boot up?  I want my tty1 through tty6 to have a better resolution. I have a hp with 1600x900 resolution. Whats the command to display vga modes?
[19:08] <v0lksman> my upgrade woes continue....upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10.  now it appears that certain directories crash nautilus when viewed or access via nautilus...cli access is fine but gui access crashes...I've tried making a copy of the directory on a different physical drive and same behavior...any ideas what to look for?
[19:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KBentley57: sudo find /freenode -iname "*freenas*" -exec irssi "{}" ";"
[19:09] <KBentley57> thanks
[19:09] <Gwar_Trolle> v0lksman: you need to find Ubuntu10.04.iso That will fix all your problems!
[19:09] <jrib> v0lksman: what directories?
[19:09] <Blue1> v0lksman: it's precisely for things like that, that I never ubgrade - I backup and then do a fresh install
[19:10] <v0lksman> jrib, seems pretty arbitrary...in the two I've found one is a directory with about 30 images in it...the other has a bunch of .svg files that I think are the cause (no thumbnail on them)
[19:10] <Moreliini> Hi. Is there a script in Ubuntu that is run prior to going into sleep mode in which I could check for a condition and cancel it
[19:11] <jrib> v0lksman: does moving the files to a new directory cause the issue with the new directory?  (can you try moving files in batches and narrow down the cause to a single file or eliminate some files?)
[19:11] <ruben_hood> somebody knows how i could automount in every login the network folder //servidor/linux/%(DOMAIN_USER) on the path /home/local/%(DOMAIN_NAME)/%(DOMAIN_USER)/server ? i need %(DOMAIN_NAME) and %(DOMAIN_USER) to be assigned depending of who log in. and i would need this to be default on every user. thanks!
[19:11] <milamber> !automount | rubenhood
[19:11] <JuJuBee> How can I control the order of the entries in my grub boot menu? I have 2 partitions one with 2.6.32 (Ubuntu) and one with 2.6.35 (ubuntu also) along with a windows partition. How can I make the 2.6.35 entry be on top as the default?
[19:11] <mrcreativity> i need some help please
[19:12] <v0lksman> jrib, maybe by cli, but as soon as I select any file in either directory nautilus hangs...
[19:12] <mrcreativity> i was using a 64but version of ubuntu,
[19:12] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:12] <v0lksman> jrib, I can open all the files in their respective apps from the cli too...
[19:12] <mrcreativity> i did a fresh 32 bit install, but grub still shows the old enteries
[19:12] <jrib> v0lksman: oh.  So viewing the directory is not the issue, just selecting a file?
[19:12] <v0lksman> jrib, yeah...
[19:12] <mrcreativity> can someone please help me out
[19:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> what's up mrcreativity
[19:13] <jrib> v0lksman: with each and every one of those svg and images?
[19:13] <mrcreativity> i was running x64 ubuntu, and decided to swtich to x32, so i did a clean install,
[19:13] <Moreliini> mrcreativity: grub-mkconfig /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:13] <v0lksman> jrib, opening?  yep...I'm able to open them  all in inkscape no problems
[19:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> mrcreativity: what happens when you run "sudo update-grub2" without quotations
[19:13] <v0lksman> from cli
[19:13] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: you mean move those entries up the list?
[19:14] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: You should be able to see the menu entries you can manually move them up and down in the text file
[19:14] <jrib> v0lksman: right, just selecting a file is the issue, but it's with all of the files you mentioned (some images and some 30 svg), not a select few?
[19:14] <mrcreativity> it updates grub, but the entries are still there
[19:14] <v0lksman> jrib, rsync copied them to a different drive too...although I know rsync looks at files a little differently
[19:14] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: but won't it get overwritten if I ever run update-grub again?
[19:14] <v0lksman> jrib, yeah...any file in the affected dir crashes nautilus
[19:14] <Nisstyre> !ask | mrcreativity
[19:14] <jrib> v0lksman: and if you move the files somewhere else?
[19:14] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: yes
[19:14] <mrcreativity> Moreliini,
[19:15] <v0lksman> jrib, same behavior in the copied location
[19:15] <mrcreativity> any suggestions
[19:15] <jrib> v0lksman: are there svg or image files that do *not* cause nautilus to crash?
[19:15] <Moreliini> do you still have the old kernels in the /boot volume?
[19:15] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: its weird, looking in the file,  the 2.6.35 entries are before all the other entries, but when I boot, they are at the bottom...
[19:15] <v0lksman> in other directories yes...it seems to only affect two directories so far
[19:16] <jrib> v0lksman: kill nautilus, start it from a terminal, make it crash, pastebin output
[19:16] <mrcreativity> Us3r_Unfriendly, any suggestions?
[19:16] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: I personally write my own grub.cfg and set update-grub, grub-mkconfig to just return 0 so aptitude doesn't get upset when updating the kernel
[19:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> mrcreativity: you might have to manually erase the entries in your grub selection.  I have not done this so i have no experience in this but maybe someone else here knows
[19:17] <v0lksman> jrib, how do you stop nautilus from autospawning?
[19:17] <mrcreativity> but when i select those entries, it boots into ubuntu
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> mrcreativity: if you uninstall the kernel you don't want in software centre it will clean up /boot as well as grub
[19:17] <Moreliini> mrcreativity: do you still ahve the old kernels in your /boot?
[19:17] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: but still, doesn't make sense that the 2.6.35 is first in grub.cfg but last when I boot
[19:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> mrcreativity: i'd seriously reinstall grub 2 and then update it to fix it
[19:17] <mrcreativity> Moreliini, yes
[19:18] <jrib> v0lksman: I thought kill took care of that
[19:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> mrcreativity: like as if you just installed windows and you want grub back
[19:18] <milamber> v0lksman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14290/nautilus-crash-when-merging-overwriting-files
[19:18] <v0lksman> jrib, no it re-spawns...but uhm...I was wrong about all files...
[19:18] <jrib> v0lksman: oh?
[19:18] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: did you try erasing grub.cfg entirely and then execuding grub-mkconfig /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[19:19] <Moreliini> *executing
[19:19] <v0lksman> jrib, seems that a couple of the files in this dir will not crash nautilus when selected...others do...
[19:19] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: no, I can though
[19:19] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, it seems to have taken.  I installed the packages, but they still showed up in the update manager, so I rebooted.  Then I got a message about a couple of broken packages, updated everything else and rebooted again.  How do I know whether or not I've still got broken packages?
[19:19] <Moreliini> well backup the old one first
[19:19] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: just in case ;)
[19:20] <JuJuBee> I know, thanks
[19:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sudo ps -eF | grep -i mplayer
[19:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sorry wrong room
[19:20] <ubuntu__> #c
[19:20] <v0lksman> going to try milamber's trick.. :)
[19:20] <Moreliini> Well room, my problem is I don't want my computer to sleep when it has open smb connections, is this an easy fix?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> craigbass1976, run sudo apt-get install -f  , paste the output if any
[19:21] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: synaptic has a filter for broken packages .. in the left side choose at the bottom filters. one should be broken packages
[19:21] <wildfire100> hey guys ive forgotten my keyring default password and it keeps on bugging me for it. How do i reset it please?
[19:21] <Glowball> If I put Ubuntu on a USB stick with System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator, will it act like a full Ubuntu install (saving extra software/settings) or will it behave like a live cd?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> craigbass1976, or look in the edit tab
[19:22] <BluesKaj> in syanaptic
[19:22] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: it did not make a new grub.cfg file?  grub-mkconfig /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:22] <milamber> Glowball: not exactly sure what you are asking, but it should act just like a live cd
[19:22] <craigbass1976> erUSUL, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[19:22] <JuJuBee> I did use sudo also
[19:22] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: what did it say?
[19:22] <milamber> Glowball: particularly if you are creating the desktop
[19:23] <erUSUL> craigbass1976: all ok then
[19:23] <JuJuBee> It displayed the contents of what I expected on the screen not put in file.
[19:23] <DogWater> Is there any easier (than recompiling all of PHP) way to get mysqlnd in Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:23] <Glowball> milamber: Damn, then I have to go through the whole installation process. Was afraid so. Hmm, does Ubuntu really *need* 4GB space?
[19:23] <wildfire100> anyone anser my question?
[19:23] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: sorry grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:23] <v0lksman> jrib, milamber so in one dir it's all the svg's and one tif that crash it...a couple of pngs and pdfs are fine...in another dir only one file in the dir that is a jpg and it crashes it...using the SIGUSR1 kill switch doesn't dump a log...
[19:24] <milamber> Glowball: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:24] <KE7VYV> Hi I'm trying to move a document to a different directory but says, "file permission denied"
[19:24] <nsd> Okay so I installed chkrootkit and ran it and it told me that I had the suckit rootkit, which after some reasearch seems to be very old and only affects Linux 2.2 and 2.4 kernels. I ran it on other machines and one other showed up as infected, and this did not. After performing an update, now it says it's also infected.
[19:24] <nsd> Is this a false positive or what?
[19:24] <wildfire100> hello?
[19:24] <ruben_hood> somebody knows how i could automount in every login the network folder //servidor/linux/%(DOMAIN_USER) on the path /home/local/%(DOMAIN_NAME)/%(DOMAIN_USER)/server ? i need %(DOMAIN_NAME) and %(DOMAIN_USER) to be assigned depending of who log in. and i would need this to be default on every user. thanks!
[19:24] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: ok, it finised and the file looks like the old one.  I will reboot and see if the boot menu changes...
[19:25] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: okay, good luck, hope you have a live-cd just in case; should be fine though :)
[19:25] <milamber> v0lksman: anything in the debug log?
[19:25] <v0lksman> milamber, it doesn't output one...
[19:25] <milamber> ruben_hood: have you tried the automount?
[19:26] <milamber> v0lksman: the link i gave you will tell you how to force it to
[19:26] <ruben_hood> milamber: i am using autofs but i can get it working
[19:26] <KE7VYV> Can some1 help me with moving a file
[19:26] <v0lksman> milamber, kill -SIGUSR1 `pidof nautilus` ?  nothing...
[19:27] <milamber> ruben_hood: what have you tried, what is happening, and what did you expect to happen?
[19:27] <geegeegee> I need a UPS that will keep an Intel atom + Nvidia ION running at 100% up for ~30 mins full load, what should i look for?
[19:28] <DaGeek247> KE7VYV whats the problem?
[19:28] <milamber> v0lksman: then i would say try running it from the terminal
[19:28] <Pici> geegeegee: I'd start looking in ##hardware, since this isn't at all Ubuntu related :)
[19:28] <jrib> v0lksman: you'll have to do research on how to properly kill nautilus and not have it respawn.  You could just tell session-manager to stop restarting nautilus.  Or kludgy way: remove the executable bit on nautilus, kill it, make it executable again, start it in a terminal
[19:28] <ruben_hood> i installed auto fs and i edited the /etc/auto.nfs file with this:
[19:29] <ruben_hood> server   servidor:/linux
[19:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> milamber: sudo top    or    sudo ps -eF | grep -i nautilus      to see nautilus id
[19:29] <KE7VYV> I can't move a file from one dir to another. It says something about permissions denied.
[19:29] <jrib> KE7VYV: where are you trying to move it exactly?
[19:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: run it with "sudo"
[19:29] <milamber> Us3r_Unfriendly: good call
[19:29] <ruben_hood> servidor is the servername of the win2003 server and linux is the folder
[19:29] <milamber> v0lksman: when you ran the kill command did you replace the 'pid' part w/ the nautilus pid?
[19:30] <v0lksman> milamber, hehehe..yeah
[19:30] <ruben_hood> it creates a folder on nfs/server but it's empty
[19:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: be careful moving stuff too.  like don't move stuff from certain directories like /etc/ exp.
[19:30] <KE7VYV> I'm not good with terminal. I'm trying to move it to /etc/udev/rules.d
[19:30] <milamber> v0lksman: hokay
[19:31] <ruben_hood> i expect nfs/server to contain the folder of smb://servidor/linux
[19:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: what are you trying to move there?
[19:31] <v0lksman> milamber, can't hurt to ask right.. :)
[19:31] <KE7VYV> Well I created the file in the wrong dir
[19:31] <milamber> v0lksman: correct
[19:31] <jrib> KE7VYV: use « gksudo nautilus », make sure you know what you are doing (don't overwrite stuff), and close this special nautilus window when you are done
[19:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: okay use this then:   gksudo nautilus
[19:32] <nsd> Anyone know the syntax for creating a hardlink with ln? It's just "ln target_file dest_flie" right?
[19:32] <nsd> *file
[19:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: be careful when moving stuff again
[19:32] <jrib> nsd: yes
[19:32] <v0lksman> milamber, any idea how to run it from cli to see the output in a shell?
[19:32] <incom> So, i recently installed the b43 drivers, should the be showing up as availalbe drivers for use in system>administration>hardware drivers?
[19:32] <nsd> jrib: thanks
[19:32] <milamber> v0lksman: you should be able to just run nautilus
[19:32] <th_> hello. im recording stream with the mplayer: mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile dsgad.avi URL. is this the best way?
[19:32] <KE7VYV> How can I make a new copy of the file in that dir?
[19:33] <th_> KE7VYV, cp?
[19:33] <th_> cp file file
[19:33] <DaGeek247> KE7VYsV by using 'cp' instead of 'mv'
[19:34] <KE7VYV> OK I'll try that.
[19:34] <marmadeoli> Hi! I try to configure a module but I get the following errors: "make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-28-generic'"   "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `de'.  Stop."   "make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-28-generic'" What can I do for eliminate this?
[19:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: there's so many ways.  i'd just type in a terminal:   sudo cp -r FILE /etc/udev/rules.d
[19:34] <Mason_> I need help connecting to a mac via ethernet cable , the mac connects via wifi to internet
[19:34] <snap> rega' avrei
[19:34] <snap> un quesito da porvi
[19:35] <th_> hello. im recording stream with the mplayer: mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile dsgad.avi URL. is this the best way?
[19:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: but the easiest way is pressing the alt and F2 key together and typing in the box that pops up:   gksudo nautilus
[19:35] <snap> ho un hd da 1 tera
[19:35] <jrib> th_: sure, I use that all the time...
[19:35] <DaGeek247> !patience <th_
[19:35] <th_> jrib, ??
[19:36] <DaGeek247> !patience < th_
[19:36] <snap> che ha 2 sistemi operativi che purtroppo occupano 4 partizioni primarie, vorrei metterci un 3 sistema operativo. Si puo' fare?
[19:36] <Mason_> I need help connecting to a mac via ethernet cable , the mac connects via wifi to internet
[19:36] <th_> DaGeek247, i dont have any :(
[19:36] <jrib> th_: what does "??" mean?
[19:36] <th_> jrib, was that sarcasm or something?
[19:36] <imachine> hello
[19:36] <KE7VYV> I got it copied. Thx for your help.
[19:36] <jrib> th_: not sarcasm
[19:36] <DaGeek247> th_ lol
[19:36] <imachine> I've installed the 2.6.28 backport on maverick meerkat
[19:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: no problem.  which way did you use?
[19:36] <incom> How can i use the b43 drivers? do I just load them as modules with modprobe?
[19:36] <imachine> but I can't build the virtualbox modules
[19:36] <KE7VYV> sudo cp -r FILE /etc/udev/rules.d
[19:37] <imachine> where can I read exact errors from dkms builds ?
[19:37] <Mason_> I need help connecting to a mac via ethernet cable , the mac connects via wifi to internet
[19:37] <incom> also, after i get the firmware with b43-fwcutter, is there anything else i need to do?
[19:37] <imachine>  / /var/log/dkms doesn't provide much info
[19:37] <Mason_> please help
[19:37] <th_> jrib, good. but that command doesnt give me any info. when the recording is going to end.
[19:37] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: well, it turns out that the menu I see was one on /dev/sda5 in /boot/grub but the one I was editing was on /dev/sda4 ....
[19:37] <BluesKaj> imachine,  /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[19:37] <nsd> Anyone know what files in /dev/shm might be? rkhunter is giving me warnings over them
[19:37] <imachine> BluesKaj, huh?
[19:37] <jrib> th_: try #mplayer
[19:37] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: cool.  the gksudo nautilus would open a nautilus window in sudo permission allowing you to move files to where ever you want.  that's why i say it's easier...no commands :)
[19:37] <th_> is this bad? vo: x11 uninit called but X11 not initialized
[19:38] <th_> jrib, oh
[19:38] <JuJuBee> I booted into 10.04 (2.6.32) on /dev/sda5 and changed it and it worked.
[19:38] <KE7VYV> Oh.
[19:38] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: cool :)
[19:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nsd: what?!
[19:38] <imachine> BluesKaj, why would I have logs about dkms builds in xorg.log ?
[19:38] <imachine> please
[19:38] <BluesKaj> oops  imachine , sry
[19:38] <imachine> :)
[19:38] <JuJuBee> Why does it choose the one from /dev/sda5 vs /dev/sda4 ?
[19:38] <imachine> BluesKaj, but if you know where to look, sure, lemme know
[19:38] <ruben_hood> somebody could help me to configure the /etc/auto.smb file to automount a samba share at every login?i am really lost
[19:38] <t-rask> I'm running the unstable PPA of Banshee, and wondering if you can hide the menubar at the top? (If anyone knows the banshee support channel, that could be helpful as well)
[19:38] <BluesKaj> imachine, didn't see the dkms
[19:39] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: depends on which hdd grub was installed on
[19:39] <Snowman> can anyone please tell me how to fix this?
[19:39] <Snowman> r:
[19:39] <Snowman> ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception
[19:39] <Snowman> Program:	C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Wow.exe
[19:39] <Snowman> Exception:	0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0073:6827308A
[19:39] <nsd> Us3r_Unfriendly: idk, I ran rkhunter and it gave me two warnings, so I looked at the logs and it's warning me about a few files in /dev/shm
[19:39] <FloodBot3> Snowman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nsd: what's the problem again, i missed the question
[19:39] <KE7VYV> Us3r_Friendly: How do I open nautilus?
[19:39] <v0lksman> just tried a different machine running 10.04 x64 and it borks on the same dir...fuuuuuug
[19:39] <imachine> BluesKaj, any ideas tho ?
[19:39] <nsd> KE7VYV: that's the file browser; just open a folder
[19:39] <Mason_> I need help connecting to a mac via ethernet cable , the mac connects via wifi to internet. The computer im trying to connect is a hp Compaq  running 10.10 ubuntu.. please help :s
[19:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: run a terminal or press alt and
[19:39] <imachine> BluesKaj, I'd like to check it out maybe it's some dependency rubbish
[19:39] <imachine> BluesKaj, I'd just install something and have it over with
[19:39] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: so if I deleted the /dev/sda5 partition, would it find the /dev/sda4 version and still book ok?
[19:39] <imachine> or build them manually :)
[19:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> KE7VYV: run a terminal or press alt and F2 and type in:  gksudo nautilus
[19:40] <Aliv3> brb
[19:40] <greppy> Snowman: you may want to check in #winehq
[19:40] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nsd: what's rkhunter?
[19:40] <DaGeek247> Mason_  samba might be what you need. i know it does windows neworking, not sure bout mac though.
[19:40] <KE7VYV> OK. Well I'll try that next time.
[19:40] <KE7VYV> Thx.
[19:41] <Snowman> greppy:  im sorry im new to this do i just go to terminal and type that in?
[19:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> no problem
[19:41] <Moreliini> I would do grub-install /dev/sda4
[19:41] <t-rask> Snowman, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Exception%3A+0xC000005+wow+ubuntu&l=1
[19:41] <greppy> Snowman: type in /join #winehq
[19:41] <nsd> Us3r_Unfriendly: it's a rootkit detection program, like chkroot. I did some googling and found that the files in /dev/shm are shared memory; in this case, they were fore PulseAudio (apparently) so it's not a problem
[19:41] <Mason_> DaGeek247 i'll look it up
[19:41] <t-rask> Snowman, it links to an old post, but it could still be relevant.
[19:41] <ruben_hood> somebody could help me to configure the /etc/auto.smb file to automount a samba share at every login?i am really lost
[19:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> nsd: i use bitdefender so i couldn't help you, sorry
[19:42] <edakiri> how can the subpixel order of a display be discovered?  (without a magnifying glass)
[19:42] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: grub-install /dev/sda
[19:42] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: not sda4 sorry
[19:42] <ubuntu__> can anyone please help me unmounting my hard drive and removing bad sectors? im using live cd now but fsck says its mounted but umount says its not...
[19:42] <socomm> What firewall does ubuntu use out the box?
[19:42] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: where will it install then on sda?
[19:42] <socomm> iptables?
[19:43] <jrib> socomm: yes, but no rules defined by default
[19:43] <jmknsd> What do I do if I install the 3D drivers from ATI and then it seems like they have no effect on reboot?
[19:43] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: or better, grub-install --root-directory=[whereever your sda4 partition is mounted] /dev/sda
[19:43] <rewt> everything uses iptables, usually with a gui front-end for configuration
[19:43] <socomm> jrib: k thx
[19:44] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: so grub-install --root-directory=/dev/sda4 /dev/sda ?
[19:44] <socomm> so wait, there is no init script for iptables?
[19:44] <Moreliini> the last arg tells it to install the boot sector on the hdd sda pointing to the boot volume on --root-directory
[19:44] <jrib> socomm: no
[19:44] <Mason_> DaGeek247 umm on there website it says mac comes with it so is there a step by step giude for me?
[19:44] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: not /dev/sda4, but where you've mounted it
[19:44] <jmknsd> also, I thought AMD had good open source linux drivers, it seems I can't even watch a dvd quality video without the proprietary drivers.
[19:45] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: i.e. mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/
[19:45] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: so then --root-directory=/ /dev/sda since sda4 = /
[19:45] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ sda
[19:45] <socomm> k guess time for some research
[19:45] <nsd> Us3r_Unfriendly: and that's for linux...?
[19:45] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: sorry not 'sda' but the whole '/dev/sda'
[19:45] <jrib> socomm: you can just ask here, tell us what you want to accomplish
[19:45]  * Moreliini tired
[19:45] <DaGeek247> Mason_ try google, if that fails, post it on ubuntuforums.org. i cant help cuz i have no mac experiance.
[19:46] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: so in conclusion 'sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[19:46] <ubuntu__> how can i unmount my /dev/sda? umount and gparted can't do it
[19:46] <Mason_> ok, but i'll stay connected here if someone else knows
[19:46] <greppy> Mason_: you probably just need a crossover ethernet cable and static your IP address on the mac and the linux box.
[19:46] <jrib> ubuntu__: is it mounted?
[19:47] <Faffel> I've installed a program (ioquake3) in linux, I installed as regular user using sh ioquake.run
[19:47] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: why /mnt if /dev/sda4 is currently my / ?
[19:47] <Faffel> It installs fine, runs fine, and I can view the folder in the terminal fine
[19:47] <Mason_> greppy : ok ill try that one sec
[19:47] <ubuntu__> jrib: according to gparted and fsck yes, according to umount no
[19:47] <nijabo> Any word on how to install XFCE 4.8 on Ubuntu 10.10
[19:47] <Faffel> But Nautilus insists it does not exist unless I'm using a nautilus run as Root
[19:47] <jrib> ubuntu__: pastebin the output of: mount; swapon -s
[19:47] <Moreliini> if sda4 is already your / then you don't need --root-directory
[19:47] <Faffel> Any idea why a folder installed by a non-root user and accessable via  non-root terminal would only be viewable in Nautilus via a root nautilus?
[19:47] <jrib> Faffel: press "reload" in nautilus
[19:48] <DaGeek247> greppy, from what i understand, he is trying to access the internet through his mac, so he would need to configure his mac to allow that.
[19:48] <clb_> I just installed Ubuntu 10.10, and it sets my display (CRT) to wrong resolution and refresh rate (something like 900x560/60Hz), and half of the display is not visible. The display configuration UI does not allow me to change the resolution.
[19:48] <Faffel> oh jeez, jrib
[19:48] <Faffel> Thank you
[19:48] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: so then just sudo grub-install /dev/sda ?
[19:48] <genii-around> Faffel: Likely you did something like: sudo nautilus    instead of:gksudo nautilus
[19:48]  * jrib nods
[19:48] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: that will not hurt anything
[19:48] <Faffel> genii-around: Jrib solved it for me :)
[19:48] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: ok, thanks
[19:48] <Faffel> Do I have to do that every time I install a program from a .run file?
[19:48] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: I'm trying to figure out why you have two boot volumes on two partitions and one /
[19:48] <ubuntu__> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/563533/
[19:48] <psaux> hello ppl. i just bought a Samsung Netbook (NP-N15) and installed Ubuntu 10.10, but I can't control the screen bright
[19:49] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: but i need to get some rest, so best of luck
[19:49] <psaux> any clue to that?
[19:49] <greppy> DaGeek247: ah, yeah, it's doable, i've done it, but it's been a while.
[19:49] <jrib> ubuntu__: you're using sda5 as swap
[19:49] <clb_> I tried adjusting modelines in xorg.conf (I've got an old Nokia 447ZaPlus) and used a windows computer to read the refresh rates etc. for the display, but can't still get it changed to 1024x768x80Hz. Do you know of any tools that might be able to detect/configure the display for X?
[19:49] <JuJuBee> Moreliini: thanks, FYI I keep 2 partitions and always use the other for new installs.  I don't upgrade anymore
[19:49] <JuJuBee> Always do fresh on other partition
[19:50] <Moreliini> JuJuBee: that makes sense, then that command should fix it for you ;)
[19:50] <jrib> ubuntu__: do you understand what to do?
[19:50] <Moreliini> nite nite
[19:50] <ubuntu__> jrib: no, sorry
[19:51] <anvo> How do I disable Brasero so does not open when I insert an empty DVD...?
[19:51] <jrib> ubuntu__: well if you want to stop using sda5 as swap, you can run: swapoff /dev/sda5
[19:51] <ubuntu__> jrib: thx
[19:51] <Alwaysastudent> Hi
[19:51] <rumpe1> anvo, uninstall brasero :>
[19:51] <anvo> rumpe1, Bliah!
[19:52] <ThomasB2k> My keyboard recently broke and I was wondering if I could bind it to a different key in gnome. Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?
[19:53] <Alwaysastudent> I want to install 30 same pcs with individual hdds ubuntu from a ready ubuntu pc thru lan only
[19:53] <Jayro> does anyone know if msn groups work with pidgin?
[19:53] <chombee> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu's encrypted home option and I made a backup of my .Private directory to an external hard drive. Now I'm trying to mount the backup to recover something. I'm trying to follow these instructions: <http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html> but I don't think they apply to my situation exactly (they're for a live cd) and I don't understand them. Can anyone help?
[19:54] <Alwaysastudent> netinstall how
[19:54] <WeThePeople> jatro, i believe so
[19:54] <WeThePeople> jayro,^^
[19:54] <Jayro> i have been invited to an msn group, but nothing is happening
[19:56] <BluesKaj> !pidgin | Jayro
[19:56] <ubuntu__> jrib: can you explain this to me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/563540/ I need to remove bad sectors from hard disk because after using the disk a while the fonts disappear and stuff so something is wrong..
[19:56] <Alwaysastudent> how to install full ubuntu on remote machines using lan
[19:56] <Jayro> that in way helped me
[19:57] <Alwaysastudent> :(
[19:57] <fooz> Hi, how can i find out what is eating up all of my inodes?
[19:57] <jrib> ubuntu__: you want to run it on a partition (like /dev/sdaX) where X is a number
[19:58] <beilby> I have an HP 6120 with a 15" screen which is capable of 1400x1050 resolution under Windows, under Ubuntu I get only 1024 x 768. How can I get full resolution under Ubuntu 10.10
[19:58] <DaGeek247> hai botcity!
[19:58] <ruben_hood> hi. somebody knows how to configure the etc/auto.smb file to automount a samba share? thanks!
[19:58] <Alwaysastudent> :(
[19:59] <DaGeek247> Alwaysastudent there should be tutorials online.
[19:59] <Ascavasaion> If I have an older machine... should I use ext2, ext3 or ext4?  It is an AMD Duron 1300MHz, 20Gb HDD with 384Mb RAM.
[19:59] <Alwaysastudent> Sorry they have confused!
[20:00] <DaGeek247> ?
[20:00] <Alwaysastudent> they 've confused me :(
[20:00] <Deddly> I have an unusual computer, a Dell XPS M2010. It has a bluetooth keyboard/mousepad combo that are paired by the BIOS. However, at some point when loading into Ubuntu, the keyboard stops being recognised, although the mousepad continues working. Does anyone have any ideas?
[20:00] <Alwaysastudent> problem of plenty
[20:00] <ubuntu__> jrib: thanks so much for the help, have a good evening
[20:00] <DaGeek247> oh, ok. what parts?
[20:00] <Mary-Jane> hey
[20:00] <Mary-Jane> How do I access my USB port connection to my phone
[20:00] <Mary-Jane> I need to get a picture off it and can't find it anywhere
[20:01] <Mary-Jane> I don't think I have a driver for it and that might be the reason
[20:01] <beilby> I have an HP 6120 with a 15" screen which is capable of 1400x1050 resolution under Windows, under Ubuntu I get only 1024 x 768. How can I get full resolution under Ubuntu 10.10
[20:01] <Alwaysastudent> net boot+install, onthe fly install, local boot+install mirror blah blah!
[20:01] <BluesKaj> yup, Mary-Jane , that's it
[20:01] <DaGeek247> Alwaysastudent what has you confused?
[20:01] <Deddly> Mary-Jane: Are you connecting the Phone directly into the USB?
[20:01] <fooz> How can i find out what is eating up all of my inodes?
[20:02] <WeThePeople> jayro, there are alot of plugins for pidgin in the soft. center
[20:02] <Mary-Jane> damn ty blueskaj
[20:02] <Ascavasaion> If I have an older machine... should I use ext2, ext3 or ext4?  It is an AMD Duron 1300MHz, 20Gb HDD with 384Mb RAM.
[20:03] <waperboy> Little sound problem in 10.04: Have a USB sound card, sound preferences show input level properly, but the sound cannot be heard. Recording software can record the sound properly. Everything is unmuted in alsamixer. Anything else I might have missed?
[20:03] <Alwaysastudent> the different tutorials, diff methods, diffrent software .. e.g. clonezilla, ubuntu netbootin, FAI project etc.
[20:03] <greppy> Ascavasaion: I would use ext3.
[20:03] <WeThePeople> ext 3^^
[20:03] <Ascavasaion> greenbit_: Thank you... I was thinking the same :)
[20:03] <Ascavasaion> Ta WeThePeople
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Ascavasaion, dunno if gnome will run with only 384mb ram
[20:04] <DaGeek247> WaperBoy try the output tab.
[20:04] <WeThePeople> bluekaj, yes it will
[20:04] <javahater> hey y'all! i've spent the better part of the afternoon cursing to get tomcat6 up and running to work with java 1.5 on my mac, and at the failure of that i gave up and booted up a fresh ubuntu. now i've got sun-java5-jdk installed due to my addition of jaunty repos in sources.list, but when i try to install tomcat6 it wants to install openjdk-6-jre-headless and openjdk-6-jre-lib . I want NO TRACE of java 1.6 on this system. how do i
[20:04] <Ascavasaion> BluesKaj: I am going to do an apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)
[20:04] <Alwaysastudent> DaGeek247..?
[20:05] <sanjien> hello, jockey-common is crashing while installing drivers.Is this a bug?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> Ascavasaion, ok good choice
[20:05] <waperboy> DaGeek247, output is set to internal sound card, maybe it can't transfer input from one card to output of another?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> WeThePeople, have you done so ?
[20:06] <WeThePeople> blueskaj, 320mbs
[20:06] <beilby> I have an HP 6120 with a 15" screen which is capable of 1400x1050 resolution under Windows, under Ubuntu I get only 1024 x 768. How can I get full resolution under Ubuntu 10.10
[20:06] <DaGeek247> Alwaysastudent research them, see which oneyou want. if all else fails there are ubunforrums.org
[20:06] <BluesKaj> WeThePeople, gotta be slow tho
[20:06] <WeThePeople> blueskaj, grrrrr.
[20:06] <javahater> anybody? blocking packages on ubuntu?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> WeThePeople, :)
[20:07] <DaGeek247> waperboy maybe. is only one device listed there?
[20:07] <aerofly5> beilby: any proprietry drivers?
[20:07] <UNDERGROUND> Hi, all!
[20:07] <Deddly> I have an unusual computer, a Dell XPS M2010. It has a bluetooth keyboard/mousepad combo that are paired by the BIOS. However, at some point when loading into Ubuntu, the keyboard stops being recognised, although the mousepad continues working. Does anyone have any ideas?
[20:07] <beilby> no
[20:07] <waperboy> DaGeek247, yes since I set my USB sound card to "Analog stereo input" only
[20:07] <aerofly5> beilby: can you enable high visual effects?
[20:08] <Alwaysastudent> Sorry. I don't want to waste time which others already have done. Rather I like to give resource for the things I have already learnt/wasted time to them who need it.
[20:08] <BluesKaj> beilby, check your admin/ hadware drivers and choose the recommended graphics driver and install
[20:08] <waperboy> so, USB sound capture device input will not transfer to internal sound card output...
[20:08] <waperboy> ...unless I use software to record then playback
[20:09] <DaGeek247> waperboy probly not
[20:09] <beilby> yes high visual effects enabled
[20:09] <DaGeek247> waperboy sure
[20:09] <Alwaysastudent> I came here with lot of expectation. Anyway bye.
[20:09] <waperboy> Which leaves me having to start Jack and connect it through there
[20:10] <g_0_0> !fixres | beilby
[20:10] <ruben_hood> somebody could help me to configure the /etc/auto.smb file to automount a samba share at every login?i am really lost
[20:10] <aerofly5> beilby: I think you might have to look on the ubuntu forums if BluesKaj's comment wasn't helpful
[20:11] <DaGeek247> Alwaysastudent hang around and sr if someone can help you
[20:11] <Alwaysastudent> Thanks a lot DaGeek247 for your response to me at least. :)
[20:12] <LinuxNoob> lol whats the best way to put irc on my desktop so i dont have to open firefox, then open chatzilla
[20:12] <LinuxNoob> whats the best one u guys think?
[20:13] <DaGeek247> Alwaysastudent i hate seeing people being ignored in ubuntu irc.
[20:13] <UNDERGROUND> :)
[20:13] <maco> LinuxNoob: most gnome or xfce users go for xchat
[20:13] <fooz> How can i find out what is eating up all of my inodes on the disk?
[20:13] <DaGeek247> LinuxNoob XCht
[20:13] <DaGeek247> *xchat
[20:13] <LinuxNoob> dageek247: me too, i always try to help even if i can just help point in right direction
[20:13] <LinuxNoob> im assuming thats in software center?
[20:13] <DaGeek247> yes
[20:13] <maco> LinuxNoob: yes
[20:14] <Alwaysastudent> :) Bye all Ubuntians!
[20:14] <DaGeek247> LinuxNoob it can be set to have desktop notifications too.
[20:14] <LinuxNoob> sweet :D
[20:14] <LinuxNoob> one thing i like..and dont like about linux
[20:15] <LinuxNoob> is how much power i have to fuck my shit up
[20:15] <LinuxNoob> on accident to be exact
[20:15] <maco> LinuxNoob: watch your language
[20:15] <DaGeek247> yes, watch the language
[20:15] <LinuxNoob> argh..
[20:15] <DaGeek247> it is indeed easy to mess ubuntu up. :p
[20:15] <LinuxNoob> alright brb
[20:16] <iGeorge> are you also using xchat as irc client?
[20:16] <DaGeek247> i once managed to delete half of ubuntu files before i realised what happened.
[20:16] <LinuxNoob> did it work :D
[20:17] <LinuxNoob> yay
[20:17] <c_nick> I am searching for a package manager which could package for windows linux and mac.. with me just providing files and folders for it
[20:17] <c_nick> something like NSIS on windows
[20:17] <magicianlord> c_nick: 7zip
[20:17] <c_nick> 7zip works on windows linux and mac ?
[20:18] <SlimG> virt-manager can't manage my interfaces on the KVM server although I've setup bridging properly
[20:18] <th_> c_nick, of course
[20:18] <SlimG> anyone know how to make virt-manager able to manage the interfaces on the KVM server?
[20:18] <mr> hello all
[20:19] <DaGeek247> hai
[20:19] <UNDERGROUND> hi
[20:19] <c_nick> my requirements are : i provide three folders one containing windows files one linux and one mac.. it should package and give me 3 executables one for linux, one for mac and one for windows can 7zip do hat
[20:19] <Deddly> I have an unusual computer, a Dell XPS M2010. It has a bluetooth keyboard/mousepad combo that are paired by the BIOS. However, at some point when loading into Ubuntu, the keyboard stops being recognised, although the mousepad continues working. Does anyone have any ideas?
[20:19] <LinuxNoob> deddly: interference, have u tried moving the keyboard? reseting the signals, moving the transever?
[20:20] <c_nick> magicianlord:  th_: my requirements are : i provide three folders one containing windows files one linux and one mac.. it should package and give me 3 executables one for linux, one for mac and one for windows can 7zip do that
[20:20] <CryonicCore> Deddly, yea its called go get a better PC. Dell blows lol
[20:20] <LinuxNoob> dell dont matter
[20:20] <Deddly> LinuxNoob: Thanks for the suggestions but it's definitely not interference.
[20:20] <LinuxNoob> u can get some good dells
[20:20] <mr> i'm new to ubuntu server, i want to install server 10.10 and wanted to knw if i should use the automated install of apache, php, mysql, etc or should I try the manual install?
[20:20] <Deddly> CryonicCore: hey! The M2010 rocks!
[20:20] <LinuxNoob> deddly: drivers updated?
[20:21] <LinuxNoob> does the mouse and keyboard work on different computer?
[20:21] <CryonicCore> Deddly, lol I was just busting ur balls ;P
[20:21] <DaGeek247> mr there is an automated install for those?
[20:21] <iGeorge_> ubuntu is just so much better than win
[20:21] <Pici> mr: You should use the package manager to install apache & friends.  Only then can you be sure that you will get security updates.
[20:21] <genii-around> mr: The automatic install will set much of the configuration to safe generic values. You can also enquire in the #ubuntu-server channel
[20:22] <Deddly> LinuxNoob: The drivers are  in the BIOS - keyboard works fine when the bootloader comes up, just not when ubuntu loads
[20:22] <Deddly> CryonicCore: ;)
[20:22] <DaGeek247> i spent a whole afternoon setting up a 10.04 server manualy!
[20:22] <mr> yeah when u first start the install it gives you the option to select web server, email etc
[20:22] <LinuxNoob> what are u booting 1010 from?
[20:22] <ubuntu__> can anyone tell me if sudo fsck -pcfv /dev/sda1
[20:22] <mr> ok, i tried a previous version with manual install and couldn't get anything to work
[20:23] <Pici> mr: Are you referring to installing using tar.gzs when you mean manual?
[20:23] <mr> no, using sudo apt get install
[20:23] <Deddly> So is there anyone here who knows how Ununbtu handles bluetooth and why it would stop the keyboard working but the mousepad built into the kb is fine?
[20:24] <Pici> mr: That should work the same way as using the cd installer.
[20:24] <prokyon> hi
[20:24] <ruben_hood> somebod here knows how to configure pam_mount to automount network folders of a domain? thanks
[20:24] <ubuntu__> jrib: sorry to bother you again, is fsck -pcfv the proper command to mark bad sectors? it seems to still be executing with no result..
[20:24] <sysdef0_returns> prokyon: Hi.
[20:25] <prokyon> are some of you programmers?
[20:25] <mr> ok, my problem then, i could never get everything to work like it supose to. apache would work, but proftpd would let me ftp into the default apache folder for the website
[20:25] <vish> !ask | prokyon
[20:25] <sysdef0_returns> prokyon: Try #friendly-coders
[20:25] <DaGeek247> prokyon i kow php and basic, but everyone hates those.
[20:26] <prokyon> DaGeek247: I dont know why. I know a little bit of C++, but still not much
[20:26] <CryonicCore> DaGeek247, how far on PHP do u know?
[20:27] <botcity> Deddly: so is it a laptop ?
[20:27] <Pici> prokyon: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?  If you're just looking to chat, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that :)
[20:27] <vish> !offtopic | prokyon
[20:27] <DaGeek247> how to mak a working website with it.
[20:27]  * vish not as fast as Pici :(
[20:27] <Deddly> botcity: Yes it's a laptop with a removable keyboard/mousepad combo
[20:28] <LinuxNoob> quick question guys, how do u alt tab outa a game your running in playonlinux/wine/etc..
[20:28] <botcity> ha! got it on google !
[20:28] <LinuxNoob> fullscreen.
[20:28] <CryonicCore> DaGeek247, ok. I am using mysql and apache and finally got appache to accept php but I dont know how to configure the rest
[20:28] <trinikrono> LinuxNoob: try ctrl + alt + d
[20:28]  * M3de is away: No toy! favor dejar mensaje despues si quiero lo leo!
[20:29] <DaGeek247> i used a long online tutorial. i dont really rember any of it.
[20:30] <Deddly> Another Q, then: Can I connect two Ubuntu machines and transfer files from one to the other as if it was an external HD?
[20:30] <DaGeek247> Deddly yes
[20:31] <jafa> hi guys, try to get ubuntu running on an Atom board + USB stick... ubuntu installs ok but the system won't boot - I just get a flashing cursor (no grub prompt)
[20:31] <LinuxNoob> okay this t
[20:31] <Deddly> DaGeek247: Sounds good...how?
[20:31] <LinuxNoob> how do i end process fast
[20:31] <LinuxNoob> procesess**
[20:32] <DaGeek247> Deddly networking them togther.
[20:32] <temb> can anyone help me with my hdd and fsck, this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/563553/
[20:32] <DaGeek247> Deddly i can walk you through that.
[20:33] <WinCamXP> anybody know how to dev a window system???
[20:33] <ikonia> temb: there is no device
[20:33] <LinuxNoob> is there a shortcut to stop all processes? cause i had playonlinux, contact list, steam(running through playonlinux, garrys mod opened, and froze like hell., how do i stop that from freezing my computer right then and there and not being able to do anything except for every 3 seconds or so, when it trys to do something.
[20:33] <botcity> !ubottu > botcity
[20:33] <ikonia> temb: /dev/sda1 doesn't exist on your system, that's the problem
[20:33] <Deddly> DaGeek247: DaGeek247 that would be very much appreciated
[20:33] <Deddly> DaGeek247: First I'll need to know what cables I need or whether I can do it over wireless
[20:34] <temb> ikonia: it does exist according to gparted
[20:34] <ikonia> temb: ls -la /dev/sda1
[20:34] <DaGeek247> Dddly, what to computers are ou trying to network?
[20:34] <WinCamXP> ive had some ideas for some form of window system...anybody want the ideas?
[20:34] <ikonia> WinCamXP: no thanks
[20:34] <LinuxNoob> ill listen
[20:34] <ikonia> not in here
[20:34] <psykatog> E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[20:34] <psykatog>    how do I fix that?
[20:34] <DaGeek247> Deddly?
[20:34] <ikonia> WinCamXP: this is an ubuntu support channel
[20:35] <LinuxNoob> WinCamXP: ill listen :D
[20:35] <ikonia> psykatog: look at line 55
[20:35] <genii-around> WinCamXP: You can throw them out for discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like :)
[20:35] <temb> ikonia: sorry, seems its suddenly renamed to /dec/sdc2? how did that happen? before the command i pastebinned it was sda1
[20:35] <WinCamXP> whats the offtopic xD
[20:35] <psykatog> ikonia, how?
[20:35] <ikonia> WinCamXP: you're already in it
[20:35] <ikonia> WinCamXP: please don't play dumb
[20:36] <DaGeek247> Deddly they are both ubuntu right?
[20:36] <psykatog> ikonia, where's the file I need to look at in a text editor?
[20:37] <Deddly> DaGeek247: yes
[20:37] <DaGeek247> Deddly, what version?
[20:37] <natty> I've got a problem with my cmedia usb headphones, they work fine on windoze but cannot find them in sound prefs
[20:38] <fooz> How can i find out what is eating up all of my inodes on the disk?
[20:38] <g_0_0> !ot | WinCamXP
[20:39] <Deddly> DaGeek247: Sorry, missed your text up there. Both are Ubuntu. One is a Dell XPS M2010, the other is an EEE Box b202. XPS is running 10.10 and I think I have 9.something on the EEE
[20:39] <giulio> http://xdccing.com/
[20:39] <ATDPRHS> Hello
[20:39] <ATDPRHS> I need help
[20:39] <gnewb> natty: Have you enabled Proprietary  or such in the Sources section?
[20:39] <ATDPRHS> anyone here can help me in something related to Ubuntu?
[20:39] <giulio> hello
[20:39] <giulio> atdprhs
[20:39] <DaGeek247> Deddly you should be fine with minor differences. they need too be connected.
[20:39] <natty> as in my ati driver?
[20:39] <ATDPRHS> hello giulio
[20:40] <g_0_0> !ask ATDPRHS
[20:40] <gnewb> natty: Yes
[20:40] <g_0_0> !ask | ATDPRHS
[20:40] <giulio> i'm italian
[20:40] <ATDPRHS> i need help in installing ubuntu manually on a specific hard drive without causing any changes to the other partitions specially windows partition? (I'm new at this, so please someone help me)
[20:40] <natty> yes, but thats all there was in there
[20:40] <genii-around> ATDPRHS: Best to ask a question which has specific things in it like how do I do <something>   or so on
[20:40] <tiziana> bye
[20:40] <ATDPRHS> please use private chat to help me...
[20:40] <gnewb> natty: Have you looked at the Hardware Section on the Wiki?
[20:40] <giulio> hello tiziana
[20:41] <natty> yer :$
[20:41] <guntbert> giulio:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:41] <Deddly> DaGeek247: Is it as simple as firing them both up and clicking on the wireless icon?
[20:41] <psykatog> ikonia, okay, I found the source list - it appears line 55 (and 54) are from attempts to install libreoffice, it reads : deb http://download.tuxfamily.com/gericom/libreoffice/
[20:41] <preludelinux_Mai> hello everyone
[20:41] <tiziana> non c'è nessuno che parli italiano
[20:41] <ATDPRHS> anyone wants to help me
[20:41] <ATDPRHS> please PM me
[20:41] <psykatog> ikonia, can I just delete lines 54 and 55?
[20:41] <guntbert> !it | giulio, tiziana
[20:41] <natty> I've tried the update alsa trick and also removed and re-installed
[20:41] <giulio> i have installated ubuntu on pen drive
[20:41] <ikonia> psykatog: what are they
[20:42] <tiziana> thank you
[20:42] <DaGeek247> Deddly no, its close. the two computrs need to be connected to the same router. are they?
[20:42] <psykatog> they're both "deb http://download.tuxfamily.com/gericom/libreoffice/" , from unsuccessful attempts to install libreoffice
[20:42] <sysdef0_returns> ATDPRHS: Make another partition.
[20:42] <psykatog> ikonia, they're both "deb http://download.tuxfamily.com/gericom/libreoffice/" , from unsuccessful attempts to install libreoffice
[20:42] <sysdef0_returns> ATDPRHS: Use Gparted or Shake.
[20:43] <gnewb> natty: Here:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <maybe
[20:43] <ikonia> psykatog: I'd remove them both
[20:43] <Leif> hmm I'm installing the ubuntu server edition, and I accidentally pressed return when I was supposed to select which packets I wanted to install as part of the installation. will there be any difference if I install these packs manually after the isntallation is complete? or should I reinstall it? it took about an hour to get to that packed selection dialog =/
[20:43] <Deddly> DaGeek247: Not exactly... I'm tethering through a mobile phone, but I can tether both through one mobile
[20:43] <natty> thnx I'll have a look
[20:44] <DaGeek247> Deddly well, see if this will work.
[20:44] <guntbert> Leif: you can use tasksel after installation to get the same dialog
[20:44] <Leif> ah nice! :)
[20:44] <LinuxNoob> is there a shortcut to stop all processes? cause i had playonlinux, contact list, steam(running through playonlinux, garrys mod opened, and froze like hell., how do i stop that from freezing my computer right then and there and not being able to do anything except for every 3 seconds or so, when it trys to do something.
[20:44] <DaGeek247> Deddly first ssign each pc a ststic ip address.
[20:44] <Anon7-2521> Hello all. I'm getting an error when I try to play any kind of media both with rhythmbox or MPlayer
[20:45] <gpc> LinuxNoob: try disabling the 3d effects if you have them running
[20:45] <psykatog> ikonia, okay, that let me run autoremove, but I'm still having a problem with my trash being 'full' whenever I want to delete anything.  I'm using KDEbuntu though, do you think it's a dolphin problem?
[20:45] <Deddly> DaGeek247: OK, how do I do that?
[20:45] <LinuxNoob> gpc: how?
[20:45] <Diamondcite> LinuxNoob: That sounded like you ran out of ram and swap at the same time...
[20:45] <ikonia> psykatog: don't run a tool, just remove those linues
[20:45] <Anon7-2521> It says: "Error Failed to connect stream: Too large"
[20:45] <ikonia> lines
[20:45] <LinuxNoob> i have them all running now fine
[20:45] <gpc> LinuxNoob: in System > Preferences > Appearances
[20:45] <sysdef0_returns> Anon7-2521: Do you have installed all needed libraries and decoders?
[20:45] <giulio> ubuntu-it
[20:45] <LinuxNoob> but, when i loaded a server in gmod and started the game, i lagged really bad.
[20:45] <DaGeek247> Deddly modify auto eth0 in ach system from automatic dhcp to manual
[20:45] <psykatog> ikonia, I did remove those lines.  I got the original error message from trying to run the autoremove command
[20:45] <Pricey> giulio: Nope you need to type '/join #ubuntu-it'
[20:45] <Anon7-2521> I should. This is a brand new problem and I've been running Ubuntu for months
[20:46] <ikonia> psykatog: remove the lines, then do "sudo apt-get update"
[20:46] <ikonia> psykatog: see if it errros
[20:46] <viliny> hello
[20:46] <Diamondcite> Anon7-2521: Is that a file or streaming?
[20:46] <giulio> join #ubuntu-it
[20:46] <Anon7-2521> File
[20:46] <viliny> so i got 64 bit ubuntu running now, any tips to that 64 bit flash?
[20:46] <gpc> giulio: scrivi /join #ubuntu-it
[20:46] <psykatog> ikonia, no, it works.
[20:46] <ikonia> giulio: "/join #ubuntu-it"
[20:46] <earthmeLon> Ubuntu's default clipboard is tempting me to throw my laptop out of the window.  Anybody have any suggestions to help improve this!? >_<
[20:46] <ikonia> psykatog: you should be fine then
[20:46] <LinuxNoob> gpc: i have visual effects set to none.
[20:46] <Pricey> giulio: you need the slash
[20:46] <gpc> LinuxNoob: and it still freezes?
[20:46] <sysdef0_returns> Anon7-2521: Install gstreamer.
[20:46] <ikonia> viliny: just install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" the rest will be done for you
[20:46] <psykatog> ikonia, alright, thanks
[20:47] <LinuxNoob> the desktop is froze up, kinda..programs i move on the desktop leave a trace when moved
[20:47] <Anon7-2521> ok
[20:47] <viliny> ty
[20:47] <guntbert> earthmeLon: whats wrong with it?
[20:47] <Anon7-2521> do I apt-get it or download it?
[20:47] <gpc> LinuxNoob: don't know, sorry.
[20:47] <sysdef0_returns> Anon7-2521: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/
[20:47] <DaGeek247> Deddly?
[20:48] <giulio> thanks
[20:48] <g_0_0> Anon7-2521, try - sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:48] <LinuxNoob> thats okay
[20:48] <Deddly> DaGeek247: Where do i find those settings please?
[20:48] <Anon7-2521> Okay, installing
[20:49] <Anon7-2521> Do I have to compile this gstreamer thing
[20:49] <sysdef0_returns> Well, gotta go people. Take care and have a nice day. ;)
[20:49] <Anon7-2521> okay the ubuntu-restrcted-extras are instlled
[20:49] <DaGeek247> Deddly i gtg, sorry :/ try google.
[20:49] <g_0_0> Anon7-2521, then you're good to go
[20:50] <Anon7-2521> Still getting the same error
[20:50] <earthmeLon> guntbert,  It doesn't like to actually copy stuff.  I'm quite confused about it sometimes removing my 'copied' stuff with something when I highlight text AND the "LEFT+RIGHT" mouse-click paste isn't working after about 10 minutes, but that's probably an xorg issue.
[20:50] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: could you please tell me what is your problem, again?
[20:50] <g_0_0> Anon7-2521, ok the problem wasn't the missing codecs then what is the error you're getting can you pastebinit?
[20:50] <Anon7-2521> It's a small error
[20:51] <macool> I need help doing a bridge.. I have eth1:1 and a virtual machine on virtualbox
[20:51] <guntbert> earthmeLon: have a look at glipper
[20:51] <ATDPRHS> back
[20:51] <Anon7-2521> "Cannot connect Stream: Too large"
[20:51] <semitones> Hey, since usb drives can be unmounted from the GUI without needing administrator privelileges, can that also be accomplished from the command line?
[20:51] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: what are you trying to do?
[20:51] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: what are you trying to do, with what, how?
[20:51] <Anon7-2521> Play music or videos from file
[20:51] <Anon7-2521> using rhythmbox or MPlayer
[20:52] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: you cannot play videos with rhythmbox
[20:52] <Anon7-2521> No shit
[20:52] <Anon7-2521> I'm using MPlayer for the videos
[20:52] <LinuxNoob> is there a shortcut to stop all processes? cause i had playonlinux, contact list, steam(running through playonlinux, garrys mod opened, and froze like hell., how do i stop that from freezing my computer right then and there and not being able to do anything except for every 3 seconds or so, when it trys to do something. but, when i loaded a server in gmod and started the game, i lagged...
[20:52] <LinuxNoob> ...really bad.  im looking at system monitor right now, <cpu1-20%><2-13%><3-12%><4-8%>, my memory swap is 1.2GiB(24.1%) of 3.4GiB, Swap 0% of 6.7GiB
[20:52] <gpc> !language | Anon7-2521
[20:52] <Anon7-2521> and rhythmbox for MP3s
[20:52] <ikonia> Anon7-2521: easy on the language please.
[20:52] <mongy> semitones, umount /media/whatever
[20:53] <macool> HELP: I need help doing a bridge.. I have eth1:1 and a virtual machine on virtualbox
[20:53] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: so both rhythmbox and mplayer give you identical message?
[20:53] <Anon7-2521> Yes.
[20:53] <Starminn> LinuxNoob, Such as this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-send-signal-to-all-processes.html perhaps?
[20:53] <iceroot> macool: virtualbox is doing that automaticly. see #vbox
[20:53] <LinuxNoob> macool: what kind of bridge?
[20:53] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: can you paste everything that is being printed out?
[20:54] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: pastebin
[20:54] <Anon7-2521> That's all I'm getting
[20:54] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: mplayer does not just print that
[20:54] <Anon7-2521> I'll take a screenshot for you
[20:54] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: no
[20:54] <macool> It's a dedicated server, and it has several public IP addresses.. I want to give public eth1:1 (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) to mi vbox VM
[20:54] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: wait
[20:54] <LinuxNoob> starminn: kindof, but how would i set that to like a shortcut?
[20:54] <Anon7-2521> what
[20:55] <LinuxNoob> cause i could type a letter about every 8 seconds when this happened.
[20:55] <iceroot> macool: just tell vbox that is should use eth1:1 instead of eth0. see #vbox and the manual from vbox
[20:55] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: do this, open terminal and then type, rhythmbox, and then do whatever you did with rhythmbox
[20:55] <Anon7-2521> ok
[20:55] <guntbert> macool: virtual box support in #vbox
[20:55] <LinuxNoob> i waited for it to unfreeze
[20:55] <Anon7-2521> I'm not getting any output in temrinal./
[20:55] <LinuxNoob> i went and got a soda
[20:55] <fooz> How can i find out what is eating up all of my inodes on the disk?
[20:55] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: after you the message have shown, copy everything on terminal and pastebin it
[20:55] <macool> No answer in #vbox :S..
[20:55] <semitones> mongy, that requires sudo though, and it's messy since you didn't use sudo mount to mount the drive
[20:56] <Deddly> Can anyone help?  I have a bluetooth keyboard that is automatically registered by the BIOS - why will it not work with Ubuntu?
[20:56] <semitones> mongy, I want to do it the same way the gui does it, but from the terminal, so I don't have to use sudo
[20:56] <macool> iface eth1:1 not showed in VirtualBox
[20:56] <lexvegas> LinuxNoob, you can just enable the CTRL ALT BKSPACE shortcut to kill x and restart
[20:56] <mongy> semitones, if you didnt mount it with sudo, you dont can use umount without sudo also.
[20:56] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: so the message is only shown by a window?
[20:56] <Anon7-2521> Yes
[20:56] <ikonia> Deddly: I doubt very much your bluetooth keyboard is paried in the bios
[20:56] <LinuxNoob> how do you do that?
[20:56] <earthmeLon> Deddly, that's really hot.  Never heard of bluetooth bios
[20:56] <semitones> mongy, interesting, I'll try it
[20:56] <ikonia> earthmeLon: because it doesn't exist ?
[20:56] <iceroot> macool: ifconfig is showing eth1:1?
[20:56] <LinuxNoob> lexvegas: how do you do that?
[20:56] <macool> yes it is
[20:56] <Starminn> LinuxNoob: Yeah I was actually wondering how ot set keyboard shortcuts to execute Terminal commands. This might help though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=810957
[20:56] <earthmeLon> Well, Just because I am not aware of it doesn't make it non-existant :P ikonia
[20:56] <macool> iceroot Yes, it shows
[20:56] <Anon7-2521> And now I'm not getting an error message. Just a little red circle
[20:56] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: this is a bit funny, now use mplayer to play a file in terminal, like 'mplayer filename.avi'
[20:57] <iceroot> macool: restartet vbox after adding eth1:1?
[20:57] <Anon7-2521> okay whoa
[20:57] <Anon7-2521> I just got a huge output
[20:57] <macool> iceroot Yes i did..
[20:57] <Anon7-2521> when trying to start rhytmbox
[20:57] <Anon7-2521> brb pastebin
[20:57] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: ok
[20:57] <iceroot> macool: then i think #vbox may help you
[20:57] <Starminn> !enter | Anon7-2521
[20:57] <lexvegas> LinuxNoob, under the keyboard configuration menu. it is under layout>options>kill x server
[20:57] <Deddly> ikonia: It really is
[20:57] <iceroot> macool: on ubuntu side its all ok if ifconfig is showing it
[20:57] <macool> iceroot Thank u
[20:58] <Deddly> earthmeLon: It's the Dell XPS M2010
[20:58] <ikonia> Deddly: I can't see how that is possible, but either way, what your bios does, has no relevence to what the OS can do , as it's the OS that controls the computer
[20:58] <Anon7-2521> http://pastebin.com/hYAaw7kT
[20:59] <earthmeLon> Deddly, I would suggest unpairing it from your bios and allowing Ubuntu to do it?
[20:59] <LinuxNoob> lexvegas: i have no option for keyboard config
[20:59] <mongy> semitones, what about adding the 'mount user space filesystems' priviledge to your account?  in users/groups
[20:59] <LinuxNoob> lexvegas: but i found keyboard shortcuts, but no option for killing programs
[20:59] <lexvegas> system>preferences>keyboard
[20:59] <bays_thr1e> except if you are running windows 95, in which case all keyboard access is through the BIOS
[20:59] <Starminn> LinuxNoob, System->Preferences->Keyboard then "Layouts" tab then hit "Options..."
[21:00] <ffrt> anyone that can help with 10.04 lts server install? i keep getting same errors in burned boot cds
[21:00] <LinuxNoob> i see nothing for kill x
[21:00] <LinuxNoob> oh nvm
[21:00] <LinuxNoob> :D
[21:00] <Starminn> :)
[21:00] <LinuxNoob> ctrl alt backspace :D
[21:00] <gnewb> LinuxNoob: There is a widget that you can add to a panel and Force Quit.
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> ffrt, #ubuntu-server
[21:00] <hakimsheriff> HELLO UBUNTU USERS AROUND THE WORLD
[21:00] <bays_thr1e> ffrt: it sounds like your kernel is broken, you should try rebooting
[21:00] <LinuxNoob> trying now :D
[21:00] <ffrt> thx
[21:00] <bays_thr1e> hakimsheriff: HELLO
[21:00] <LinuxNoob> nothing happened
[21:01] <botcity> Deddly: there are lots of threads out there about your problem !   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=492275
[21:01] <Deddly> ikonia: This computer is the Dell XPS M2010 and the keyboard is detachable. The keyboard works fine in Grub so Ubuntu does something to it
[21:01] <LinuxNoob> oh didnt have it checked off.  :D
[21:01] <macool> hakimsheriff wazzup
[21:01] <ferret_> Was that a joke?
[21:01] <grkblood> ever since i updated ubuntu totem no longer arranges songs in numerical order. how do i fix that?
[21:01] <Deddly> earthmeLon: Hmm, not a bad suggestion, might try that, just afraid of losing the mouse, too
[21:01] <Starminn> LinuxNoob: Neither did I. I believe it's un-chacked by default. :) Didn't know it existed, actually, but handy to know now.
[21:02] <earthmeLon> You can always set it  back up pretty easily in the bios, right Deddly ?
[21:02] <bays_thr1e> grkblood: you need to change your localization, that's what affects the use of alphabetical/numerical ordering
[21:02] <Deddly> botcity: Oh, I did search but didn't find anything, thanks!
[21:02] <bays_thr1e> you probably have it set to one where the alphabet goes from right to left
[21:02] <dhiaeldeen> do linux eat less battery life of a netbook than windows?
[21:02] <LinuxNoob> yup that worked pretty good.
[21:02] <LinuxNoob> dbiaeideen: yes
[21:02] <Anon7-2521> mkanyicy: Did you see my pastebin?
[21:03] <grkblood> bays_thr1e, how do i do that?
[21:03] <LinuxNoob> doesnt have as many running connections to internet...programs..spyware..
[21:03] <bays_thr1e> dhiaeldeen: it depends. linux has a darker screen, but windows uses fewer for loops in searching for files. so it all varies based on your usage
[21:03] <ruben_hood> somebody knows how i could automount in every login the network folder smb://servidor/linux/%(DOMAIN_USER) on the path /home/local/%(DOMAIN_NAME)/%(DOMAIN_USER)/server ? i need %(DOMAIN_NAME) and %(DOMAIN_USER) to be assigned depending of who log in. and i would need this to be default on every user. thanks!
[21:03] <Starminn> dhiaeldeen: Yeah. Not by a whole heck fo a lot, but it is easier on it.
[21:03] <gnewb> dhieldeen: Depends on the distro, but yes, it can.
[21:03] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: yes
[21:03] <grkblood> bays_thr1e, i dont see anything under preferences in totem for that
[21:04] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: I was expecting more than that
[21:04] <botcity> Deddly:  i think maybe this one  is better https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/37288
[21:04] <dhiaeldeen> tnx
[21:04] <bays_thr1e> grkblood: first you need to press Ctrl-Alt-2 and log in as the root user
[21:04] <bays_thr1e> grkblood: don't bother trying to use sudo for this
[21:04] <guntbert> !noroot | bays_thr1e
[21:04] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: Did you copy this after you got the error message on rhythmbox?
[21:04] <Anon7-2521> I don't get any output from the error, I don't even see the popup anumore
[21:05] <Anon7-2521> just a little red circle with a white line through it
[21:05] <C1iFF> Can anyone help plz? My Ubuntu screws up startup by changing icons and folders to a old-looking theme and an X error msg appears stating 'could not configure stored settings' cause of the monitor size. PLS HELP ME!
[21:05] <Deddly> earthmeLon: Well hopefully...
[21:05] <mkanyicy> but does the music play or not??
[21:05] <Deddly> botcity: I'll check that link, thanks
[21:05] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: ^^^
[21:05] <Anon7-2521> mkanyicy: No. It does not.
[21:05] <Mhaddog> whats the synaptic commnad for update all? similar to yum update?
[21:05] <user82> how do i find out hte current kernel in terminal?
[21:05] <bays_thr1e> C1iFF: it sounds like it's time to reload all your drivers
[21:06] <bays_thr1e> C1iFF: make sure you use the same disk you originally installed from
[21:06] <lexvegas> Mhaddog, aot-get update then apt-get upgrade
[21:06] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: can you play now any video with mplayer on terminal?
[21:06] <Anon7-2521> let me try
[21:06] <guntbert> user82: uname -a
[21:06] <user82> thx guntbert
[21:06] <lexvegas> Mhaddog, apt*
[21:06] <Mhaddog> thanks lexvegas
[21:06] <Anon7-2521> It's Movie Player, Excuse me. Let me tru
[21:06] <gnewb> !dpkg | Mhaddog
[21:07] <greenIT> is it possible to use unity with ubuntu 10.10 and if its possible, is it easy to install / use?
[21:07] <user82> the kernel si also updated with the normal update isnt it?
[21:07] <guntbert> user82: yes
 what type of drivers? I reinstalled NVIDIA several times when newer versions came out, but none helped. What kind of X config files should I renew?
[21:07] <Anon7-2521> I'm not sure how to open Movie Player with terminal
[21:07] <azlon> what is a good light ftp server with lots of options? i only need cli. right now i am using proftpd. is there anything else i should use instead or do they all pretty much work the same?
[21:07] <user82> good
[21:08] <user82> one more question i got two linux partitions and the /boot/grub/ is on the one id like to delete, how can i tell the bootloader to use the other config?
[21:08] <user82> its up2date as well and working
[21:08] <guntbert> azlon: "light ftp server with lots of options" seem a bit contradictory :-)
[21:08] <SlimG> azlon: Tip: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[21:09] <greenIT> !unity
[21:09] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: oh, 'Movie Player' is totem, not mplayer
[21:09] <Anon7-2521> ah ok
[21:09] <q0z> i have a question. Windows seven widgets tell me that my processors are working at about 5% each, while ubuntu shows them working at 12-35% Are the windows widgets just plain wrong or is ubuntu more power hungry than windows seven when it comes to cpu?
[21:09] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: just type 'totem'
[21:09] <bays_thr1e> azlon: /part
[21:10] <Anon7-2521> Okay. one sec.
[21:10] <Starminn> greenIT, You see videos on YouTube of people using it, but I couldn't exactly tell you how to do it. I'm looking now. But it is possible (apparently)
[21:10] <azlon> guntbert: it is, but the system running the ftp server is a 1.6ghz atom 270 with 1 gig of ram... so it doesnt have much power
 it should be called totem. When in doubt of commands for programs, add them to the panel and click properties. It s the fastest way to find out.
[21:10] <grkblood> bays_thr1e, its probably best that you tell people thats going to kick them in single user mode before you tell people to do that
[21:10] <Anon7-2521> http://pastebin.com/Xs6Hx9KJ
[21:10] <Anon7-2521> mkanyicy: ^^
[21:10] <greenIT> Straminn, thx
[21:11] <guntbert> azlon: :-)  - but I have no answer for you - sorry
[21:11] <mkanyicy> did you open a video file and played it before copying the message, Anon7-2521?
[21:11] <Starminn> greenIT, Ah, nevermind. These were all of Netbook. Okay, easiest thing to do would be grab a LiveCD of the netbook I guess. I misspoke. >.< Sorry.
[21:11] <Anon7-2521> mkanyicy: yes
[21:11] <grkblood> is a terminal window not good enough?
[21:11] <gnewb> q0z: Kinda depends on how it is set up, not kinda, it actually does. One system setup may eat %79 while one may use %.02
[21:11] <greenIT> Straminn, ok^^ well, seems like i have to w8 till 11.04 to get unity on normal ubuntu^^
[21:11] <macool> Can I tell Ubuntu to create an iface? I want to make eth1:1 to be eth3 for example
[21:12] <guntbert> azlon: try to ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:12] <Starminn> greenIT, You could grab the Ubuntu 11.04 Beta or Alpha or whatever it is. The support channel for it is #ubuntu+1 I believe.
[21:12] <lexvegas> greenIT, i once installed unity on my laptop running normal Ubuntu Desktop
[21:12] <ktosiek> Hi!
[21:13] <azlon> guntbert: thanks. i suppose i don't even want FTP... i would like to use SFTP to keep things secure
[21:13] <grkblood> how do i make totem diplay playlists in numerical order?
[21:13] <grkblood> after i upgraded it changed
[21:13] <genii-around> macool: The particular thing you're asking ( how to make a virtual interface attached to eth1 for instance behave as if it's actually a physical device like eth3 ) ...no
[21:13] <ktosiek> How to turn off sounds when changing tabs/closing dialogs etc?
[21:13] <greenIT> lexvegas, don't u have it anymore on your laptop?
[21:13] <guntbert> azlon: you will get that via ssh as well
[21:13] <azlon> guntbert: but SFTP requires SSH and will also allow the users to connect to SSH and stuff... i only want them to be able to download files, nothing else
[21:13] <greenIT> Straminn, i am currently "testing" 11.04 alpha in a vbox^^
[21:14] <q0z> gnewb, true, but since i'm comparing windows seven and ubuntu i have all ze eyecandy turned on, not that i necessarily use it though...
[21:14] <Irwell> does anyone know how to stop the window manager closing before open windows when shutting down? i know its only a minor cosmetic thing but it doesn't look very polished when it does that.
[21:14] <lamefun> q0z, try to look in gnome-system-monitor, to know what exacly consumes CPU
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> greenIT: i just went for a full install, no half measure :)
[21:14] <Starminn> ktosiek: System->Preferences->Sound and just play around there maybe? I have my alert volume all the way down.
[21:14] <guntbert> azlon: as I see it you will definitely get better answrs in #ubuntu-server
[21:14] <botcity> macool: check out  man  ifconfig   can do that  set an alias !  i think !
[21:14] <azlon> guntbert: is there a way to lock down users to only SFTP, SCP or any file copying protocols and not allow them shell access? (i know it is contradictory, but you get what i mean)
[21:14] <azlon> guntbert: ok, thanks
[21:14] <lexvegas> greenIT, I tend to reinstall a lot due to my nature of poking too much. i believe I just ran apt-get install unity, then ran "unity" from the command line
[21:14] <ktosiek> Starminn: I'm not using gnome, what command gives me those preferences?
[21:14] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: this seem to be a known problem with frostwire'
[21:15] <Eduardo> alguem fala portugues aqui?
[21:15] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: do you have frostwire?
[21:15] <Starminn> What are you using?
[21:15] <Anon7-2521> Nope
[21:15] <Starminn> ktosiek: What are you using? (forgot to put your name)
[21:15] <grkblood> after i upgraded totem no longer puts playlists in numerical order, how do i change it back?
[21:15] <ktosiek> Starminn: WMII + Kupfer or dmenu as app launcher
[21:15] <macool> genii-around And what can I do instead?
[21:15] <roy_1> hi! i'm unable to update the system (ubuntu 10.10) because apparently there is not enough free space on /. Is it possible to increase the size without affecting the system... in a bad way?
[21:16] <gnewb> q0z: Then you understand, I run a very 'light-weight' setup, I did notice the same thing after I bought this PC from a flea market with Win7 installed. Is all better now.
[21:16] <genii-around> macool: It depends upon what exactly are you trying to do firstly
[21:17] <Deddly> botcity: I have seen that bug report before and it doesn't help me, unfortunately
[21:17] <Irwell> so nobody knows how to fix the window manager thing then?
[21:17] <macool> genii-around I'm having problems bridging an interface
[21:17] <Starminn> ktosiek: No idea then. Sorry. Someone else might.
[21:17] <genii-around> macool: That's still very vague
[21:17] <guntbert> !br | Eduardo
[21:17]  * pastubbs sends guntbert a cold beer
[21:17] <gnewb> Irwell: Which WM are you using?
[21:17] <q0z> lamefun, thnx, opera 28%, gnome-sys-moniter 8%.. the rest are sleeping. to sum that all up thats 36%cpu. strange
[21:18] <Irwell> gnewb, it's just a basic ubuntu installation
[21:18] <Anon7-2521> mkanyicy: I don't have any thing like Frostwire installed.
[21:18] <lamefun> q0z, it might depend on what websites you opened, have you any heavy flash sites or applications opened?
[21:18] <ktosiek> Anybody knows what binary is run by System->Prefrences->Sound?
[21:18] <Eduardo> valeu amigão mais onde coloco estes comando
[21:19] <gnewb> Irwell: I guess it is Gnome then, have you added any EyeCandy?
[21:19] <Starminn> q0z: Just as a side, you can "Add to Panel..." the "System Monitor" to actively monitor it if you wish. (Just to make life easier on you perhaps)
[21:19] <roy_1> hello! somebody please tell me how to increase the size of /.... i do have enough unallocated space on the hdd
[21:19] <Irwell> gnewb: nope, and i had the same issue when using KDE too. if windows are open at shutdown the window manager closes before they do so their borders disappear.
[21:19] <guntbert> ktosiek: gnome-volume-control
[21:20] <ktosiek> guntbert: thanks!
[21:20] <Starminn> !es | Eduardo
[21:20] <LinuxNoob> ktosiek: gnome-volume-control
[21:20] <guntbert> ktosiek: you're welcome :-)
[21:20] <lexvegas> roy_1, you can boot to the live CD and use gparted on there to increase the size of any partition
[21:20] <Guest61602> ns identify 1234
[21:20] <LinuxNoob> nvm :D
[21:20] <gnewb> Irwell: How much RAM and CPU on that box?
[21:20] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: can you do in terminal 'pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start' and then start rhythmbox and try playing music?
[21:21] <Anon7-2521> in one line or no
[21:21] <roy_1> lexvegas: will it affect the existing OSes?
[21:21] <nfearnley> I'm trying to write an upstart conf file, but I don't understand what happens when I tell a service to stop. When I tell it to start, it runs the pre-start script, then runs exec line, then runs the post-start script. When I tell it to stop, it runs the pre-stop script, does ???? to halt the service, then runs the post-stop script. Can someone fill in the blank?
[21:21] <SlimG> azlon: disable the users shell (the user you don't want to have shell access)
[21:22] <ktosiek> I have no sound theme set, but I still hear sounds when closing windows or switching tabs in guake
[21:22] <lexvegas> roy_1, it shouldnt, but it is ALWAYS a good idea to back up any data you want before touching partitions
[21:22] <q0z> Starminn, thanks
[21:22] <ktosiek> what can cause that?
[21:22] <Irwell> gnewb: dual core turion with 4gb ram
[21:22] <q0z> lamefun, 8 static pages and one using flash playing music.
[21:23] <gnewb> Irwell: That is odd, are you certain that .xorg is configured correctly?
[21:23] <roy_1> lexvegas: I just want my boot menu and updates to remain intact
[21:23] <ruben_hood> somebod here knows how to configure pam_mount to automount network folders of a domain? thanks
[21:23] <Irwell> gnewb: i don't know to be honest, i've not changed anything... it's a normal ubuntu installation running the open source drivers
[21:23] <lamefun> q0z, have you measured CPU consumption in Windows with exacly same sites opened?
[21:23] <q0z> gnewb, what kind of setup? lxde with ubuntu, or just no window affects and compiz stuff?
[21:23] <Anon7-2521> mkanyicy: that worked for rhythmbox
[21:24] <grkblood> after i upgraded totem no longer puts playlists in numerical order, how do i change it back?
[21:24] <Anom01y> anyone knw anoything about EEEbuntu ?
[21:24] <botcity> Deddly: ho well feel free to ask again! meanwhile i will look into it
[21:24] <gnewb> Irwell: That may be it then.
[21:24] <lexvegas> roy_1, then you shouldnt have a problem. just make sure you dont have the option to format the partition selected.
[21:24] <Anon7-2521> And Totem
[21:24] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: and for Movie Player?
[21:24] <Anon7-2521> Thank you!
[21:24] <Anom01y> I screwed up the sources I think not sure how to fix it
[21:24] <azlon> SlimG: when i create the user i use "-d /home/FTP-Shared -s /bin/false". will this stop them from accessing the shell?
[21:24] <q0z> lamefun, yes, i believe so
[21:24] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: that seem to be a problem with pulseaudio, is your computer up to date?
[21:24] <Anon7-2521> mkanyicy: Nope
[21:24] <Irwell> gnewb: well i'd rather have the border problem than use the proprietary drivers as they completely break plymouth!
[21:24] <gnewb> q0z: Lubuntu, yes and LXDE DEbian and GhostBSD with some tweaks.
[21:24] <roy_1> lexvegas: I"ll try that. thanks a lot :)
[21:25] <Anon7-2521> I have like, OVER9000 upgrades that I never do.
[21:25] <LinuxNoob> \win
[21:25] <lexvegas> roy_1, no problem
[21:25] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: you can update it anytime you are ready by doing 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and/or 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[21:25] <q0z> lamefun, not entirely sure though.. i'll check later on again..
[21:25] <gnewb> Irwell: I can understand that, just seems to me that is an issue that should have been resolved by now.
[21:25] <Anon7-2521> Is it really necessary to update?
[21:26] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: sometimes there are problems, like these, that are fixed by updates
[21:26] <Gear0> I am dual booting with Ubuntu and Windows. When I look at my partitioning scheme there is apparently an "Extended" partition.. what would this contain?  I see the bootable partition (ntfs), another NTFS partition (I think this is windows), a Linux parition (think this is Ubuntu), and a Linux/Swap partition... but in addition there is this "Extended" partition... what is it for?
[21:26] <Anon7-2521> Ah ok
[21:26] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: so it is wise to stay updated, i think.
[21:26] <Anon7-2521> I don't want to upgrade to Maverick yet.
[21:26] <lamefun> q0z, what are these sites?
[21:26] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: no, I don't mean that
[21:27] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: I don't mean changing the whole distribution
[21:27] <Anon7-2521> Ah ok good
[21:27] <mkanyicy> Anon7-2521: that is not necessary
[21:27] <lamefun> q0z, BTW, it might be not objective, since there may be dynamically changed flash ad on some of the sites, so it could give you static ad in Windows 7 and dynamic ad in Ubuntu
[21:27] <q0z> steremood.com, yahoomail, the rest don't use any flash or ajax or whatnot that could load the system
[21:28] <q0z> lamefun, true
[21:28] <Ubuntu_Noob> guys what should i make my nickname be, i can never come up with something good :(
[21:29] <kingcheese26> thatguy
[21:29] <Ubuntu_Noob> :D
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_Noob: why not keep what you got
[21:29] <Ubuntu_Noob> cause..i cant register it, its already taken
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_Noob: i see
[21:29] <Ubuntu_Noob> LinuxNoob, taken, UbuntuNoob taken.
[21:29] <q0z> lamefun, still it's strange. i'll give it some notice when i'm switching systems from now on, thanks
[21:29] <gpc> choice of nickname really has nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[21:29] <cfedde> pick something that calls to you.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntu_Noob: do you have names elsewhere, like online game nicks?
[21:29] <Ubuntu_Noob> thatguy called to me :D
[21:29] <guntbert> !ot | Ubuntu_Noob
[21:30] <kingcheese26> i would suggest not including 'noob' in your nick :D
[21:31] <gnewb> walden ponders the conversation,,,,
[21:31] <Ubuntu_Noob> i guess ill use my sc2 name :D
[21:31] <Andyman555> do you have to use a separate ping utility for ipv6?
[21:32] <CrackBaby> darnit, already taken :D
[21:32] <lazarus_> how would one stop ppa's being added more than once?
[21:32] <hdtdi> am.. kinda stupid question but how can i understand which version of ubuntu i have on my computer currently installed?
[21:32] <acid_> speek anybody here czech ?
[21:32] <CrackBaby> andyman555 we use ipv6 dont we?
[21:32] <CrackBaby> or do we still use 4?
[21:32] <gpc> CrackBaby: That nick woouldn't be acceptable in Ubuntu channels
[21:32] <Andyman555> I use 4
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Andyman555: ping6
[21:32] <CrackBaby> gpc: its a military thing lol
[21:32] <Andyman555> thanks
[21:32] <Andyman555> much appreciated
[21:32] <DJones> !version | hdtdi
[21:32] <gpc> Consider a more family friendly nick please.
[21:32] <lexvegas> CrackBaby, also, I would suggest something more family friendly if you plan on frequenting the ubuntu support channel
[21:32] <CrackBaby> they call non-sgts crackbabys alot cause they are retarded
[21:33] <lazarus_> how would one stop ppa's being added more than oncein an sh script?
[21:33] <CrackBaby> roger that:d
[21:33] <paszo2008> hallo how to chmod recursively ?
[21:33] <user82> hdtdi  http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/about_ubuntu.png
[21:33] <hdtdi> thanks DJones
[21:33] <anononnn> intill i think of good name
[21:33] <paszo2008> i need to add all privileges
[21:33] <mkanyicy> paszo2008: -R
[21:33] <SlimG> azlon: yes
[21:33] <cfedde> paszo2008:  chmod -R directory
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> paszo2008: chomr -R acccess folder
[21:33] <genii-around> lazarus_: Use only the add-apt-repository method instead of editing the sources.list. The files it adds under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  get overwritten, hence no duplicates
[21:34] <paszo2008> ok
[21:34] <cfedde> paszo2008: er... chmod -R perm files...
[21:34] <anononnn> #ot
[21:35] <anononnn> how does that wrok
[21:35] <lazarus_> genii-around: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa && ppa:tiheum/equinox && ppa:chogydan/ppa ?
[21:35] <Starminn> anononnn: How does what work?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> anononnn: do you want the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[21:35] <anononnn> okay /exit closes irc. ill remember that x_X
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> lazarus_: you need the command before each repo to add
[21:35] <Starminn> anononnn: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:35] <anononnn> thanks
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> anononnn: /wc closes the channel window
[21:36] <Craig_Dem> If you need irc command help. Try /help
[21:36] <mkanyicy> anononnn: don't offtopic even on that channel, lol
[21:36] <genii-around> lazarus_: The && part means to start a new command after that, so it will try to run ppa:tiheum/equinox     in this case
[21:37] <anononnn> actionparsnip: thanks, ive only used irc for as long as ive had ubuntu
[21:37] <nazzzux_> hi. does anyone know how to use on of the "surround ports" for regular sound out on ubuntu?
[21:37] <mkanyicy> genii-around: only if the first command finished without error
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> anononnn: you will learn ;)
[21:37] <genii-around> lazarus_: add-apt-repository does not seem to have multiple-entry capability so you will need to put it every time
[21:37] <brunner> I just did a fresh install on a Sony Vaio laptop.  When I try to boot into single user mode, it always stops here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisbrunner/5422430759/ What could be causing this?
[21:37] <genii-around> mkanyicy: Yes, but the name of a repo is not a command which executable :)
[21:38] <Gear0> I am dual booting with Ubuntu and Windows. When I look at my partitioning scheme there is apparently an "Extended" partition.. what would this contain?  I see the bootable partition (ntfs), another NTFS partition (I think this is windows), a Linux parition (think this is Ubuntu), and a Linux/Swap partition... but in addition there is this "Extended" partition... what is it for?
[21:39] <rww> Gear0: msdos-style partition tables can only have four primary partitions. An "Extended" partition is a primary partition that can contain logical partitions, allowing you to have more than four partitions.
[21:39] <brunner> Can anyone tell me why my system would always halt here when I try to boot into single user mode? http://tinyurl.com/63vrrvb
[21:39] <lazarus_> genii-around: so http://paste.ubuntu.com/563578/
[21:40] <mkanyicy> brunner: are you able to log in normally?
[21:40] <nazzzux_> so no one knows how to use on of the "surround ports" for regular sound out on ubuntu? (So that I can have both speakers and headset in on the same time)
[21:40] <valentine> heello
[21:40] <TomV-415> I recently tried to install ubuntu 10.10 on a Dell D800, and after the install, I'm (this used to be a dual boot machine..) I get 'error: out of disk." , and the "grub rescue>" prompt.
[21:41] <brunner> mkanyicy, no. It's having graphics issues.  So, I was going to alter the xorg.conf after using the alternate install CD.
[21:41] <Gear0> rww: yes, but do you know what it would contain if I just let Ubuntu do it automatically.. I didn't specify anything, after installing windows I just told ubuntu to install to the remaining space. So I am assuming that what I have is pretty standard for dual booters. and I am asking exactly what that extended partition has in it.
[21:41] <Encry8> how do you paste something in terminal without it running the pasted text? seems if it's over one line, it automatically runs whatever gets pasted
[21:41] <mkanyicy> brunner: does xorg.conf still exist?
[21:41] <Starminn> Gear0: Yep, what rww said. Typically depending on how your system's current setup is, when you installed something like Ubuntu it will automatically do that for you. So for me, I have a Dell and they put Windows + 2 Dell partitions on my computer. Because of this, Ubuntu 10.10 put root "/" and swap in an extended partition.
[21:41] <Bop> anyone using vsftp with option check_shell=NO ?
[21:41] <brunner> mkanyicy, I can't even get into single user mode to find out.
[21:41] <Bop> anyone using vsftpd with option check_shell=NO ?
[21:41] <rww> Gear0: probably your / and swap partitions.
[21:42] <Starminn> Gear0: Install a tool called, "GParted" and it will show you very nicely what all's there.
[21:42] <mkanyicy> brunner: good luck
[21:42] <Anonnn> yay :D
[21:42] <genii-around> lazarus_: Well, you'll need sudo in front of all the add-apt lines. But how is this meant to be called? By the user or a script
[21:42] <brunner> mkanyicy, thanks
[21:43] <Gear0> rww: Starminn: thanks. Well I'm actually planing on reinstalling so I just want to know which partitions can be overwritten. Do you think it is a safe bet that there are no windows files on the extended partition?
[21:43] <lazarus_> genii-around: a script
[21:43] <almoxarife> why does 10.10 have such a lousy record of suspending without a glitch? is there some secret fix I am unaware of?
[21:43] <rww> Gear0: Which tool are you using to look at your partitioning scheme? Does it have the /dev/sdXY identifiers for each partition?
[21:44] <Starminn> Gear0: There are Terminal commands I'm sure others could tell you to  look at, but I would suggest installing "GParted" from the Software Center to be sure. It's on the LiveCD if you have it already; just not on the full system. It will show you everything so no guess-work.
[21:44] <Gear0> rww: yes, I just did fdisk -l /dev/sda
[21:44] <Encry8> how do you paste something in terminal without it running the pasted text? seems if it's over one line, it automatically runs whatever gets pasted
[21:45] <yeats> Encry8: that's because the terminal considers "Enter" or "newline" to mean "run what I've typed"
[21:45] <rww> Gear0: can you copy it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the page it creates here, please?
[21:45] <Encry8> yeats: anyway around that?
[21:45] <Gear0> rww: extended is /dev/sda3  Linux is /dev/sda4  Linux/Swap is /dev/sda5
[21:45] <yeats> Encry8: copy into a text editor and remove the newlines ("enters")
[21:46] <Gear0> rww: /dev/sda1 is bootable (with a * sign) and is ntfs
[21:46] <Gear0> rww: /dev/sda2 is ntfs
[21:46] <yeats> Encry8: also, adding a \ to the end of each line will keep the shell from running it
[21:46] <rww> Gear0: sda1 and sda2 definitely aren't extended. sda5 definitely is. I'm not sure about sda4.
[21:46] <Encry8> yeats: ok thanks
[21:46] <Gear0> rww: sorry, I'd do the pastebin thing but it would be a pain to do right now. I'm not near the computer in question
[21:47] <oneliner> what directory should i use to put new programs that arent packages? for example i just downloaded eclipse, where should i place the eclipse folder?
[21:47] <Fuchs> /opt
[21:47] <Gear0> rww: well... is it normal for the bootable partition (which is small) to be ntfs?
[21:47] <Kazilla> does anyone know how to setup an internal network hostname using the ubuntu dns server?
[21:48] <yeats> oneliner: traditionally /opt is for "non-repostory" packages
[21:48] <murielgodoi> hy guys, has anyone also facing problems when connecting msn using empathy?
[21:48] <rww> Gear0: That's not Ubuntu's boot partition, it's Windows'.
[21:48] <Gear0> rww: I see... I thought that would be where grub was installed.
[21:48] <pvl1> hey all, running a headless server. my mysql is junk and needs to have a fresh install, and apt-get doesnt fix it.
[21:49] <Starminn> Gear0: NTFS=Windows.
[21:49] <rww> Gear0: GRUB will be installed in the MBR and in the /boot directory in your / partition.
[21:49] <cfedde> pvl1: are you looking for a scrape off solution?
[21:49] <lazarus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/563578/ surely i dont need to sudo that much
[21:50]  * rww goes afk
[21:50] <Guest74228> hi, I want to buy some laptop within troubles with ubuntu
[21:50] <Guest74228> what of thes is better for that?
[21:50] <Guest74228> http://www.remateshp.mex.tl/tienda.html
[21:50] <col0ur> This is slightly non-Ubuntu, but im dual booting Ubuntu and Windows on a netbook. Ubuntu is alreqady installed, and i have 116GB free on my hard drive. My question is, how big should i make the Windows partition?
[21:50] <FloodBot3> Guest74228: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <pvl1> cfedde, scrape off?
[21:51] <ruben_hood> somebod here knows how to configure pam_mount to automount network folders of a domain? thanks
[21:51] <felon> how come i cant burn mp3 format with brasero.
[21:51] <PhoenixSTF_> Hi guys
[21:51] <cfedde> pvl1: do you want to completely remove mysql then re-install?
[21:51] <folklore> col0ur it depends on how much you plan on using the windows
[21:51] <pvl1> cfedde, yes please
[21:51] <PhoenixSTF_> anyone knows about SBLIVE emu10k how to put 5.1?
[21:51] <folklore> downloading dvds, etc?
[21:51] <folklore> only using alil
[21:51] <hk4l> Anyone here can help me with restoring grub?
[21:51] <folklore> I wouldn't do the bare minimum though you need space for programs and files
[21:51] <Starminn> col0ur: That might be better answered in #windows, and I'd imagine you should provide such things as usage details (how much tobe used) and what model of Windows.
[21:52] <cfedde> pvl1: sudo apt-get purge  mysql # for example
[21:52] <col0ur> folklore, i plan to get an external HDD for any downloads. i plan to use it for gaming pretty much exclusively
[21:52] <hk4l> Or atleast point me towards a good guide?
[21:52] <pvl1> h4z|da, fix it froma  live cd
[21:52] <yeats> !grub2 | hk4l
[21:52] <folklore> col0ur well for gaming add an additional 7/8 gigs additional
[21:52] <col0ur> i was thinking 30-50
[21:52] <hk4l> Yeats thanks
[21:52] <pvl1> cfedde, tried that, but then when i go to install, i cant ever log in as root, and things just dont seem right
[21:52] <folklore> well I mean 7/8 in addition to the minimum
[21:53] <felon> what is a good burning program for ubuntu that will let me burn mp3format so i can fit 5 or 6 albums on a disc.
[21:53] <Starminn> col0ur: I know a lot of people who use Windows exclusively for gaming just throw it in a VM. I don't know much about them, but it's worth a shot I guess.
[21:53] <folklore> win7 is min 16gigs for instance
[21:53] <folklore> btw external harddrives are usually very slow so you want games on your main harddrive
[21:53] <col0ur> Starminn, on a netbook though that'd be slow as hell
[21:53] <cfedde> pvl1: after the install you cannot log into mysql as user root?
[21:53] <TomV-415> Can't seem to boot a new install of Ubuntu 10.10.  Get '
[21:53] <col0ur> also want it for photoshop
[21:53] <Starminn> col0ur: True, didn't think about that. :)
[21:53] <col0ur> i wasn't gonna keep games on the external HDD, just videos, music, etc.
[21:53] <col0ur> Starminn,
[21:53] <col0ur> ;)
[21:53] <mkanyicy> felon: brasero
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> col0ur: that installs in $HOME in wine so you will need space in that folder for that. Check the appdb for compatibility
[21:54] <folklore> col0ur how much space do you need for ubuntu, use the rest for windows if you want
[21:54] <col0ur> i want the most space to be given to ubuntu
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> col0ur: if you are dual booting, you will probably get a smoother ride for photoshop in Windows
[21:55] <cfedde> pvl1: does this sound like your issue? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587302
[21:55] <TomV-415> Can't seem to boot a new install of Ubuntu 10.10.  I get 'Error end of disk.' followed by a 'grub rescue>' prompt.  Now when i boot from CD, I get "No init foun' and a (initramfs) prompt.  What next??
[21:55] <col0ur> ActionParsnip, exactly my thoughts
[21:55] <Kazilla> TomV-415: thought that would be rather obvious, try again.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> TomV-415: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1622804
[21:56] <TomV-415> Kazilla:  I did try again... a few times.  I think I'm missing something.
[21:56] <TomV-415> ActionParsnip: I'll check that out.  Thanks!
[21:57] <rtdos> i have gnome, fluxbox, and blackbox desktops installed: since i am not using the gdm to login to my system how do i use startx or xinit specify which desktop i want to use?
[21:57] <deddly> Does anyone know where the "wireless network connection" button is on 10.04?
[21:57] <PhoenixSTF> Problem with SBlive! only 4.1, 5.1 not working
[21:58] <j-invariant> deddly: it should be in the top right
[21:58] <col0ur> 45GB it is
[21:58] <j-invariant> deddly: at least it is for me
[21:58] <TomV-415> My ubuntu install experience is not for the feint of heart... gads this is going to take a while to sort out...
[21:59] <mkanyicy> rtdos: why arent you using gdm?
[21:59] <pvl1> cfedde, lemme install and try
[21:59]  * YankDownUnder finds it funny that a completely inexperienced blonde can install Ubuntu in 20 minutes, but everyone else has issues
[22:01] <rtdos> mkanyicy: i want to use a text only login.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> YankDownUnder: experiences vary wildly
[22:01] <YankDownUnder> ActionParsnip, True.
[22:02] <botcity> YankDownUnder: that long wow :-P
[22:02] <lolcat_> hello
[22:02] <lolcat_> How can I see all partitions on a drive?
[22:03] <Kazilla> guys if i wanted to give one of my internal network computers a hostname, where my dns server is ubuntu, how could i do it?
[22:03] <TomV-415> given I'm now deep into figuring out what the heck  initramfs is... Like most software installs, when it goes right it's trivial... but other wise..
[22:03] <tonsofpcs> set it on the machine....
[22:03] <jrib> rtdos: most people setup a ~/.xinitrc
[22:03] <tonsofpcs> TomV-415: it builds a ram filesystem
[22:03] <bill_> who can help me to install video driver?
[22:03] <pvl1> cfedde, i cant start mysqld
[22:03] <rtdos> jrib: that file is not in my home directory. where do i copy it from?
[22:03] <jrib> rtdos: you just create it
[22:04] <TomV-415> tonsofpcs: yes, now how can I get from that to a reinstall of grub2?
[22:04] <bill_> who can help me to install video driver?
[22:04] <tonsofpcs> TomV-415: huh?
[22:04] <bill_> ?
[22:04] <TomV-415> tonsofpcs: I'm currently unable to boot my newly installed 10.10, and when I try to boot via CD, I fall out to the intiramfs prompt.. lovely
[22:05] <Roofle> what could be causing my ubuntu server instance to restart each time I attempt to transfer over a large file (4 GB)
[22:05] <rtdos> jrib: from scratch? don't i need to put in defaults?
[22:05] <TomV-415> I'm going to try booting from usb, I think my CD drive is suspect so LiveCD is not working.
[22:05] <tonsofpcs> initramfs prompt?
[22:06] <jrib> rtdos: defaults of what?  A basic one is just "#!/bin/sh; startfluxbox"
[22:06] <tonsofpcs> weird.
[22:06] <tonsofpcs> can you bot grub off the CD and chainload your hdd?
[22:06] <lolcat_> How can I read partitions on a hdd?
[22:06] <botcity> lolcat_:     sudo df -h /dev/sd1   or  whatever
[22:07] <jrib> rtdos: here: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=.xinitrc
[22:07] <rtdos> thanks jrib
[22:07] <Roofle> anyone?
[22:07] <Roofle> it happens when transferring via both SCP and AFP
[22:07] <TomV-415> tonsofpcs: LiveCD is what drops me into this little boot kernel thing.. I'll try to find a usb that's empty and make it a boot source.. so I'll be back if that is failing too..
[22:08] <juanefren> I was updating frmo 8.04 to 10.04 and accidentally disconnected energy cable in the process, Now I just get a initramfs prompt how can I restore my system ? :(
[22:08] <botcity> lolcat_:     sudo fdisk -l
[22:08] <lolcat_> Bah, seams ubuntu can't find my hdd
[22:08] <hk4l> yeats: thanks man it worked
[22:09] <lolcat_> sudo fdisk -l takes forever
[22:09] <Kazilla> Roofle: how do you know its not a hardware problem?
[22:10] <Roofle> I'm not sure it's not
[22:10] <Roofle> they're brand new drives though :(
[22:10] <Roofle> they pass a SMART check...if that means anything here
[22:11] <iceroot> Roofle: looked at the syslog?
[22:13] <krycek> anyone on torrentflux?
[22:13] <Kazilla> not since utorrent went linux
[22:13] <Roofle> that's another issue... /var/log/messages hasn't been updated in 4 hours
[22:13] <oneliner> right, so got that running,.. now who could recomend a cvs server? for installing and creating my own project repositories?
[22:13] <Roofle> ever since I installed syslog-ng, I think
[22:14] <krycek> im using torrentflux on a webserver
[22:14] <apocalyptiq> Radar: thanks, works
[22:14] <krycek> and i forgot the inloggin pw ><
[22:14] <Niglop> vlc is only playing audio but not showing video, but they work on my other media players?
[22:14] <krycek> is there a file where i can check /edit the pw on torrentflux?
[22:15] <Encry8> Hi, some reason my webcam stopped working, was working fine earlier, I know a restart of the computer would fix it, but is there a way to "restart" the webcam w/out rebooting PC?
[22:15] <Goliath> where are kde login themes saved at?
[22:15] <felon> what is a good burning program for ubuntu that will let me burn mp3format so i can fit 5 or 6 albums on a disc?
[22:15] <Niglop> Goliath:  try /usr/share/themes/
[22:15] <iceroot> Roofle: /var/log/syslog
[22:16] <silvio> how to use for dowload
[22:16] <Roofle> Feb  6 12:25:30 server kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
[22:16] <Roofle> Feb  6 12:25:30 server kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
[22:16] <Roofle> Feb  6 12:25:30 server kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
[22:16] <FloodBot3> Roofle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <krycek> i dont know my password on torrentflux login, how can i fix this easy?
[22:17] <Roofle> doh!
[22:17] <krycek> bah
[22:17] <Roofle> logging stopped around 4 hours ago for some reason
[22:17] <Niglop> vlc is only playing audio but not showing video, but they work on my other media players?
[22:18] <ubuntu__> hello
[22:20] <botcity> Niglop:   have you tried  In VLC Tools>Preferences>Show settings-All>Video Uncheck 'Overlay video output'
[22:20] <Roofle> it seems like right after I installed syslog-ng is when the logging stopped
[22:21] <azertyu> hi
[22:21] <azertyu> there
[22:21] <azertyu> anyone there ?
[22:21] <Niglop> botcity: i cant see that option
[22:21] <lolcat_> Hellu
[22:21] <lolcat_> Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[22:21] <lolcat_> Does that mean I can formate it to be usefull again?
[22:22] <lolcat_> gparted is taking forever
[22:22] <azertyu> i need to find one words on file where i don't the path
[22:22] <azertyu> how to search it ?
[22:22] <lolcat_> Can I dd dev/sda to an img og a usb drive?
[22:22] <Kazilla> press tab azertyu
[22:22] <Niglop> ok botcity i just did it, still not working
[22:22] <azertyu> tab for what ? Kazi
[22:23] <shaggyoaf> Hi, everybody. Strange problem. When I start gnome-terminal, it starts me off in the root directory (/) instead of my home directory. $HOME is defined and it *is* reading my $HOME/.bashrc file when it starts up
[22:23] <Kazilla> where are you searching?
[22:23] <azertyu> do you get my question ?
[22:23] <shaggyoaf> Anybody know what's not getting started correctly?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> shaggyoaf: what it the output of:  whoami
[22:24] <user_> is there any software for ubuntu that helps people with dyslexia?
[22:24] <azertyu> i need to search a word on a particular folder where that folder i got lots of sub folder i need to find that word on a file, how to do it ?
[22:24] <wooter> shaggyoaf, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469240
[22:25] <user_> i can't seem to find any plug ins for open office for technical writing or anything
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> azertyu: grep -Rword folder
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> oop
[22:25] <jrib> ActionParsnip is a liar
[22:25] <botcity> Niglop:  what codec are you trying to watch !
[22:25] <botcity> ?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> jrib: its that or EXTREMELY close
[22:25] <jrib> azertyu: what ActionParsnip said with a space after the -R
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> azertyu: grep -R word folder
[22:26] <mkanyicy> azertyu: find folder -type f -print 0 | xargs -0 grep word
[22:26] <Antonis> how do I mount an .iso file in ubuntu 10.10?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> jrib: hence the oop, but i had to take time to rply to you instead of correcting:)
[22:26] <felon> nm ill figure it out my-self as alwayz.
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/filename.iso /media/iso
[22:27] <Antonis> thank you ActionParsnip
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: just change the /path/to/filename.iso   and it will work
[22:27] <Antonis> thanks =)
[22:27] <dzup2> azertyu: find ./ -name "*.php" -type f -exec sed -i 's/GNU General Public License//g' {} \;   <---for example, that will search any php file and chage gnu by nothing
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: theres a gui app too, but i cant remember it's name
[22:27] <azertyu> i agree ppl
[22:27] <TomV-415> Just tried booting from a usb "liveCD" and I get a prompt "boot:" and a message Could not find kernel image: linux
[22:27] <azertyu> you are very skilled ppl
[22:27] <TomV-415> (10.10)
[22:27] <azertyu> thanks a lot
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> TomV-415: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[22:28] <azertyu> working
[22:28] <TomV-415> ActionParsnip: nope...
[22:28] <Encry8> How come I cant get this working? http://paste.ubuntu.com/563595/   I get errors like: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> TomV-415: then how do you know the ISO was complete and consistent?
[22:28] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, I would love to get it if you remember it!! also, do I always have to create the folder /media/iso or is it enough with creating it right now
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> !mountiso
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[22:29] <gidas> hi guys, how to install M2Crypto on ubuntu?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> !info gmountiso | Antonis
[22:29] <Antonis> wow thanks!
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: the CLI is childishly simple so I use that, I haven't used the app myself
[22:30] <djjonex> how i test postfix?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: There are also nautilus scripts so you can do it with a right click in the file manager
[22:30] <TomV-415> ActionParsnip: I don't never had that problem before.  When i created the USB, I just followed the prompts from the StartupDisk creator in Ubuntu 10.04.  I gather that does not check the MD5 before writing the ISO to the drive.  I'll try again, using a 10.04 image.
[22:31] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, I have tried that but they seem unstable.. I prefer the command line or a GUI
[22:31] <Kazilla> anyone know how to use dns for internal networks? about to give up.. *cry*
[22:31] <djjonex> lol
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> TomV-415: well you are having issues and you have no idea if the ISO was error free. Errors in the image will create you issue
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: well now you have options ;)
[22:32] <TomV-415> ActionParsnip: makes sense.  I'll check and confirm, or download a new one..
[22:32] <jrib> Kazilla: I just set it up on my router and then have my computers use the router for dns.  Are you using an ubuntu box as a router?
[22:32] <Kazilla> yeah my ubuntu box is my dns and dhcp server
[22:32] <Kazilla> but i want to name one of my internal computers a dns name
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> TomV-415: TCP does a good job of rejecting bad data but it isn't perfect, using torrents adds extra error checking but MD5 is an integral part of a smooth install
[22:33] <Encry8> How come I cant get this working? http://paste.ubuntu.com/563595/   I get errors like: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Encry8: change line 6 from <html> to </html>
[22:34] <Encry8> i tried that too
[22:34] <Encry8> same error though
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Encry8: and add a carridge return to the end of the last line
[22:34] <Encry8> ok
[22:34] <Encry8> ty
[22:36] <Erika> hi, it´s me again, please help me to change irc into spanish language
[22:36] <Encry8> ActionParsnip: how to do carriage return?
[22:36] <jrib> Kazilla: http://askubuntu.com/questions/20313/name-resolution-on-home-lan has some hints.  You can probably scour the docs for whatever dns server you use and get more info too
[22:36] <Erika> is there anybody speak spanish in this channel?
[22:37] <genii-around> !es | Erika
[22:37] <ecinx3> I know spanish, but I don't know ubuntu
[22:37] <Kazilla> thanks jrib , i found http://serverfault.com/questions/220974/bind9-dns-ubuntu-names-pingible-on-server-but-not-on-windows-machines too.. will try tomorrow morning..
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Encry8: use the big enter key on your keyboard
[22:38] <jrib> Kazilla: I think if you search your dns server's docs for dhcp and vice versa, it may be helpful.  Maybe also ask the channel for your particular dns server
[22:38] <Encry8> still get error
[22:38] <Encry8> ill just use emacs LOL, i dont get how cat works yet
[22:38] <bucky> Kazilla, how big a network is this?
[22:38] <Guest40994> yo hablo español
[22:39] <ApacheOmega> hello everybody and happy superbowl sunday
[22:39] <lucio_> ke
[22:39] <felon> K3B is my answer with all extra codecs will let you burn mp3 just fine. Thanks.
[22:40] <ApacheOmega> I just wanted to know what the best rescource for learning all the UBUNTU codes and terminal tricks - just some commands I can use as a reference book
[22:40] <canthus13> I have a lucid machine that is suddenly refusing to bring up eth0.  If you try to manually bring it up, you get 'ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0'
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !manual | ApacheOmega
[22:41] <arbiter> !es
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> ApacheOmega: try to think (how can I achieve what I need) rather than (what can I do)
[22:41] <Guest40994> join #ubuntu-es
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest40994: prefix with a '/' character
[22:43] <Roofle> anyone know why my system has stopped logging since installing syslog-ng?
[22:44] <UbuntuNewb> newb here...looking for something better than the written documentation (videos?) for learning to use the terminal. any suggestions? the written stuff is seriously tedious
[22:44] <ApacheOmega> ActionParnship: OK so where can I find a reference book or you tell me whats the fastest more efficient way to learn all this
[22:44] <jrib> bucky: I'm curious about what you know about kazilla's question (local dns) if you don't mind.  Suppose it's a small home network
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> ApacheOmega: I'd say: just use the OS,  you will learn just like you learned the other OSes you have used
[22:45] <maciej_> siema
[22:45] <EasyRider> irc://chat.pathfinder.gr
[22:46] <maciej_> Jestem tutaj 1. raz
[22:46] <ApacheOmega> ActionParsnip: Thanks will do - now time for some SuperBowl Goodness- enjoy the game
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> ApacheOmega: watching it later as my friends are working tomorrow, UK here so it'll finish at 4/5am
[22:46] <jrib> !pl | maciej_
[22:46] <UbuntuNewb> is there anyway to block all this "user entering and exiting" text?
[22:47] <elder_> algun latino??
[22:47] <jrib> !es | elder_
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuNewb: which client?
[22:47] <elder_> jaj ok
[22:47] <UbuntuNewb> i am using Xchat
[22:47] <bucky> jrib, i just wondered if he was trying to run bind or just put entries in /etc/hosts
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuNewb: not one I use but others may be able to help now you have added the detail we needed
[22:48] <jrib> bucky: ah ok.  Google turned up some avahi and zeroconf hits I wasn't too familiar with.  Thanks :D
[22:48] <maciej_> Im first visit irc
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> very short first irc at that
[22:49]  * jrib refuses to make joke
[22:51] <Anonnn> i want to write a hotkey phrase, i guess thats what it would be called..  that will auto type my password into the "needs admin password" thing, but its going to be a really weird key phrase.  like ctrl+alt+something
[22:51] <Anonnn> cause my password is really long :D
[22:51] <Anonnn> and i mess up a few times..
[22:52] <jrib> Anonnn: that's silly
[22:52] <Anonnn> jrib: why so?
[22:52] <tzaeru> well, this is just perfect. update-manager crashed while updating whole distro. right now nothing works. whole filesystem on boot was set to read-only: 'dpkg: unable to access status area: Read-only file system'
[22:52] <jrib> Anonnn: what's the point of a password if it's hotkeyed?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> tzaeru: boot to livecd and fsck the partition
[22:53] <Anonnn> because i want to make it easier on me :)
[22:53] <tzaeru> ActionParsnip, prolly would if I had one..
[22:53] <justTrying> anybody know how to make a script that searches excel data displays certain cells?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> tzaeru: well you need a seperate boot as your disk is screwy
[22:53] <Anonnn> ive got enough passwords just to get to ubuntu, i dont need it askin me every 5 seconds i try to change something, but i do like it when it asks me in terminal and such.
[22:54] <tzaeru> ActionParsnip, how come it suddenly went screwy due to that crash? :3
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Anonnn: use:  sudo -i   then you won't be bothered
[22:54] <tzaeru> I boot it about every day anyway
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> tzaeru: most likely
[22:54] <Anonnn> whats sudo -i
[22:54] <EasyRider> geia sas ... pws mporw na mpw sto pathfinder me ti entoli...?? eyxaristw
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Anonnn: interactive sudo
[22:55] <Anonnn> just says root@cameron
[22:55] <Anonnn> now what o_o
[22:55] <Anonnn> i have no idea how to use this :D
[22:55] <Anonnn> oh..help is very helpful :D
[22:56] <jrib> Anonnn: well first off, I don't see what you would be doing so often that requires admin access that entering the password became tedious.  Secondly, the password is stored for 15 minutes.  And lastly, just disable the password (not recommended) instead
[22:56] <Anonnn> i want it to stay secure
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Anonnn: it means you don't have a grace period for sudo, it will go until you type: exit
[22:57] <Anonnn> but i always mess up my password casue its alot of numbers and letters
[22:57] <jrib> Anonnn: hotkeyed password is NOT SECURE
[22:57] <Anonnn> jrib: how so?
[22:57] <botcity>  Anonnn pick a new one!
[22:57] <Anonnn> i wouldnt make the program say "insert password"
[22:57] <martijn_dekker> Hey all, I can't get Rosegarden to start up properly.. It's not shutting down, but it's also not opening any window after the splash screen vanishes. Can someone help me, please?
[22:58] <Anonnn> the hotkey would be named like.. .open steam
[22:58] <botcity> !password | Anonnn
[22:58] <Anonnn> but it actually just pastes my password instead :D
[23:00] <justTrying> how can i read excel file in shell?
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> justTrying: you can't if its in a microsoft office formatted file
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> justTrying: you need a csv
[23:02] <justTrying> aeson-ltd: then what file formats can the shell read? I'm trying to script a program so I can easily search multiple excel docs
[23:03] <franzce> guys
[23:03] <justTrying> aeon-ltd: Ah, ok. What do I have to convert word files (.doc) to?
[23:03] <franzce> where can i download a ubuntu software that is not a wubi?
[23:04] <VCoolio> justTrying: to txt using antiword?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> franzce: how do you mean?
[23:05] <Caveman1234> Off topic question, I repair and setup computers (just in my local area) and was wondering how do you (legally) install windows multiple times without buying new boxes. In other words, how can i buy multiple keys?
[23:05] <maco> Caveman1234: when you're reinstalling on a system that had a virus infestaton, that system should have a key on a sticker attached to it already
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> franzce: normally ubuntu isn't install with wubi, Wubi is just a cheap nasty way for Windows user to try before they buy because (as far as I can see) they find it too hard to resize partitions and install a reall install
[23:06] <franzce> ActionParsnip: what i mean is i want to install ubuntu but not using a wubi
[23:06] <gbear14275> hey I
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> franzce: then use the windows7 partition resizer or the one in the Ubuntu CD and create unpartitioned space,then install to the free space
[23:07] <gbear14275> Hey I'm having a problem with a USB stick of mine coming up as a SIM card reader, anyone able to help me manually mount this thing.  The howto's I find online seem to be outdated
[23:07] <franzce> ActionParsnip: buy? i thought ubuntu is free?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: mount hasn't changed much in years
[23:07] <Caveman1234> maco: I know that, but I'm talking for people who are upgrading to windows 7 from XP
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> franzce: its a saying
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> franzce: like "trial by fire" rarely involves any sort of heat
[23:08] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, Yes but the directories they say to look in don
[23:08] <andai> hi
[23:08] <maco> Caveman1234: oh. i would guess youd need to talk to microsoft
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> franzce: or a boxer "kicking someones ass" when they don't use their feet
[23:08] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, Yes but the directories they say to look in don't apppear to match up... e.g.  I don't have a /proc/bus/usb
[23:08] <soreau> I am wondering if there's a way to share a connection with ubuntu NetworkManager network connections + nm-applet. So far I've found 'share this connection' in the ipv4 settings but it just makes nm-applet report 'auto eth0' as connected and then disconnected every other second
[23:08] <Caveman1234> maco: Yeah I guess, just hate sitting on the phone :P
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: mount can use ANY folder you like to mount to (except in /proc)
[23:08] <martijn_dekker> Still got Rosegarden problems. Could someone please help me?
[23:09] <franzce> ActionParsnip: ahhh, i see
[23:09] <l1nuxman> I get a weird 'operation not supported' when I try copying and pasting from my webserver to machine
[23:09] <andai> which of the following can I do with freely available video editing software: (1) Curves tool   (2) Stabilize [ shaky camera ] ?
[23:09] <franzce> ActionParsnip: where did you get your installer?
[23:09] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, so if I use lsusb to see the device, what would the mount command look like?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: you mount the devices from /dev  you can see the device name in the output of:  sudo fdisk -l
[23:09] <soreau> I usually do it with iwconfig+dhclient cli stuff but it wont connect this way, it seems to only connect when using nm-applet
[23:09] <martijn_dekker> Lots of "BadDrawable" errors
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> franzce: i booted to the liveCD and installed
[23:09] <cgannon> I'm having an issue. I'm running an older mac mini with xubuntu and it won't display on my 22in monitor from boot... right after the mac splash it goes to black. Any ideas?
[23:09] <franzce> ActionParsnip: is it a wubi?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: lsusb is nothing to do with mounting
[23:09] <m_fulder>  my OS doesn't find libz.so.1 file why is that? :(
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> franzce: no, i use proper installs. I don't use windows
[23:10] <franzce> ActionParsnip: can i download it in the net?
[23:10] <gbear14275> Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[23:10] <l1nuxman> I get a weird 'operation not supported' when I try copying and pasting from my webserver to machine. Anyone know what's wrong?
[23:10] <franzce> ActionParsnip: the same as the installer you have
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> m_fulder: it's in zlib1g
[23:10] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[23:11] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, that's a bad sign right?  Is there still a way I can recover files off it?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> franzce: yes download the iso, md5 test it then burn it slowly
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: sdb is the disk, you don't mount disks,you mount partitions
[23:12] <m_fulder> ActionParsnip,  so just reinstalling zliblg would do the job?
[23:12] <franzce> ActionParsnip: do you mena the ubuntu desktop cd?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> !download | franzce
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> m_fulder: according to: dpkg -S libz.so     it is, run it to see
[23:13] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, there are no partitions listed (http://pastebin.com/5EnEcdCC)  what are my options now?
[23:13] <botcity> soreau: i had the sane problem using sudo service network-manager stop still did not solve my connection  maybe it will for you  !
[23:13] <m_fulder> oki
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: the device is 8Mb in size?
[23:14] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, should be 256mb... but it doesn't appear correctly... it should be a USB drive its listed under lsusb as "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0420:1307 Chips and Technologies Celly SIM Card Reader"
[23:14] <cutchyacokov> Does KMS work on 10.10 with nouveau?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: when you want to take the device out of a PC, what do you do?
[23:14] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, ...remove it?
[23:14] <botcity> soreau: i had to remove nm altogether now i use wcid !
[23:15] <m_fulder> ActionParsnip,  dpkg -S libz.so   gives me zliblg:   /lib/libz.so.1.2.3.3 //  zlib1g:  /lib/libz.so.1
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: so you don't stop the device,or safetly eject it?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> m_fulder: then you know what to install :)
[23:15] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, but this is the first time I've looked at it.  My gf handed it to me and said "I need stuff off this and it won't work in windows... can you help?"  Enter my current situation
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: does she use the safetly remove functionality?
[23:16] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, most likely not
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: then you are BOTH mistreating the hardware, I'm not suprised it's damaged
[23:16] <_skpl> dont mistreat the hardware.
[23:16] <martijn_dekker> Just poking around again for people who could possibly help me with Rosegarden: It's not starting, but not quitting either.. just shows the splash screen and keeps running without doing anything..
[23:16] <cgannon> in soviet russia, hardware mistreats you.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: you NEED to use the safetly remove device in ANY OS so that the system can flush caches and drop the device so it can be safetly removed from the system without damaging it
[23:17] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, I would agree with you completely...
[23:17] <m_fulder> ActionParsnip,  I just installed lib32z1-dev  and it solved my problem
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: then why are YOU just pulling the device out, without safetly removing it?
[23:17] <martijn_dekker> Ah, cgannon.. so russians would be right to fear the robot uprising?
[23:17] <cgannon> indeed, dekker. indeed.
[23:18] <martijn_dekker> Man.
[23:18] <cgannon> anyone have an idea on how i can get my xubuntu mac mini to run on my big fancy monitor?
[23:18] <martijn_dekker> I'm just happy I treat my pc well. Even when it's being a little bitch that doesn't like Rosegarden >_>
[23:18] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, no excuse sir.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: if you mistreat hardware it WILL break.
[23:18] <martijn_dekker> cgannon, maybe you need some restricted drivers for it?
[23:18] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, So this is broken and unrecoverable?
[23:18] <martijn_dekker> What brand is the video card?
[23:19] <shruggar> under "monitor preferences", various resolutions are listed such as "1024x768" and "1360x768".  I would like to add to this list the option of "1280x768" (my monitor's actual native resolution). How can I do this? (preferably through means other than editing xorg.conf or the like)
[23:19] <cgannon> martijn_dekker, it won't even display the bootloader with the live CD.
[23:19] <martijn_dekker> Ouch.
[23:19] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, or is there a way to actually mount this manually?  something with dd perhaps?  manual fstab entries?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: you may be able to use foremost on the device but if its physically damaged then it may take professional services, your backups will save you easily
[23:19] <martijn_dekker> That's out of my league, cgannon. Sorry.
[23:19] <silvio> beginner how can download files
[23:19] <cgannon> np, dekker.
[23:20] <cgannon> likewise. usually i can fix my own stuff.
[23:20] <Anonnn> i get an error when i try to install sc2 using wine
[23:20] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, foremost?  there a good google search term to use?
[23:20] <l1nuxman> how can I connect to an ftp server while using it as root? I get 'operation not permitted' or something
[23:20] <l1nuxman> thats through GUI I mean
[23:20] <cgannon> runs fine on a crappy old 15in monitor...
[23:20] <Anonnn> sudo unmount /media/cdrom
[23:20] <Anonnn> says i dont have anything mounted there
[23:21] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, http://foremost.sourceforge.net/  <-- this the one?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJysfUhs2tqnmKD0D2plclEbmeO7AsH2vZWlpUZncIXnpKr49V&t=1   if you's used this in Ubuntu and this in Windows you will have no issues: http://kbserver.netgear.com/images/safely_remove_1.gif
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: foremost is in the repos
[23:21] <cgannon> ActionParsnip: good with fixing graphics issues?
[23:21] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip, thank you, I'll try to spread the word and practice of safe USB insertion and removal.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> cgannon: in what way?
[23:21] <martijn_dekker> Lol, gbear14275.
[23:21] <bar> My system froze - what's good practice? I have 4 hard drives... I think I need to run fsck or something with certain flags to make sure things are cleaned up, but not too sure- any thoughts/tips? tahnks
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: please do, saves data / device damage
[23:22] <l1nuxman> anyone?
[23:22] <martijn_dekker> Parsnip is right. Also, don't trust Vista or Win7 to "repair" your USB drives.
[23:22] <cgannon> ActionParsnip: Trying to get my mac mini box to display on a 22in monitor. i can't even see the bootloader with the live CD. works fine with an old 15in monitor. and its not the hardware. osx works fine.
[23:22] <Anonnn> quick question when it has && in the directions for a command, does that mean u type that or do you hit enter?
[23:23] <sindakus> if there is someone that can help me, I installed ubuntu on an external device and now when I start my computer it goes into "grub rescue" mode (windows installed on the main disk), I don't know what to do :(
[23:23] <jrib> Anonnn: type it
[23:23] <cgannon> Anonnn you type it
[23:23] <Anonnn> like 01 && sudo mkdir
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> cgannon: thats because the OSX is configured correctly, what OSX does is of no value as it is a different OS altogther
[23:23] <Anonnn> ahh okay
[23:23] <Anonnn> it does the codes one after the other?
[23:23] <jrib> Anonnn: command1 && command2   will run command2 after command1 but only if command1 is successful
[23:23] <cgannon> ActionParsnip: I realize this much. I'm telling you its not my hardware causing an issue and it is indeed Ubuntu/Grub thats causing an issue.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> cgannon: can you give a pastebin of: lsb_release -a; sudo lshw -C display
[23:24] <cgannon> coming right up.
[23:24] <martijn_dekker> ActionParsnip, can I borrow you after you're done helping cgannon?
[23:24] <l1nuxman> how can I connect to an ftp server while using it as root? I get 'operation not permitted' or something
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> cgannon: I have hardware that doesn't work in windows as it is too old, does that mean its faulty?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> martijn_dekker: wassup?
[23:24] <martijn_dekker> And I think his rationale for that logic is "if it works at all, it should work in Linux"
[23:25] <Anonnn> jrib: gotcha
[23:25] <martijn_dekker> ActionParsnip, can't start Rosegarden. Was hoping you could help me :)
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> martijn_dekker: never used it dude, sorry
[23:25] <martijn_dekker> Aw
[23:25] <Anonnn> i typed the code and it said
[23:25] <martijn_dekker> Well, maybe you could still extract more useful info from the console output than I can? *shrug*
[23:26] <Anonnn> mount: mount point /media/PlayOnLinux/ does not exit
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> cgannon: you can use:  http://pastie.org  to host the text so you don't spam the channel
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Anonnn: sudo mkdir /media/PlayOnLinux
[23:26] <cgannon> ActionParsnip: I'm aware. http://pastebin.com/94ghfP0J
[23:26] <brandon420> anyone know how to use a nvidia 8600gts, in combination with a ati onboard, for a total of 3 monitors? i have done it on windows, but kind of at a loss as to where to start here.
[23:27] <martijn_dekker> Ah well. Just found out there's a #rosegarden on Freenode. I'll go poke them for a bit
[23:27] <dougl> brandon420, your xorg.conf file
[23:28]  * M3de is away: No toy! favor dejar mensaje despues si quiero lo leo!
[23:28] <Anonnn> actionparsnip: what exactly is mkdir?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> cgannon: i have the same video chip in my crappylappy, you may need an xorg.conf file if your monitor isn't reporting EDID when asked.
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Anonnn: have a guess
[23:28] <brandon420> dougl, care to be a little more specific?
[23:28] <Anonnn> Mount kernal directory i guesss :D
[23:29] <cgannon> ActionParsnip: Shouldn't the bootloader be displaying a default screen resolution on boot though?
[23:29] <martijn_dekker> Anonnn, it makes a dir. MaKeDIR
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Anonnn: its "(m)a(k)e (dir)ectory.   the mount point must exist to mount to it, it is not mount's job to make the mount point
[23:29] <Anonnn> ahhh gotcha so i have to mount play on linux first
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> cgannon: depends if the driver loads in time, nvidia drivers usually show a black screen at boot if they are using propreietary drivers
[23:31] <Bill|iPad> Splash screen is fubar until changes can be made to dbus last I heard
[23:31] <shaggyoaf> Hi, all. I asked a question about an hour ago but had connection problems, sorry for the re-post, but I didn't see an answer.
[23:31] <shaggyoaf> When I start gnome-terminal, it starts me out in the / directory. It's like it's the same difference between using sudo su with a dash and without one. Anybody know what's not getting initialized?
[23:31] <Bill|iPad> For nvidia cards
[23:31] <Anonnn> ActioParsnip: i typed the sudo mkdir, and i got. cannot creat directory '/media/PlayOnLinux' : File exists
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Bill|iPad: you can tweak your OS to use fb driver during the boot process
[23:31] <martijn_dekker> Seems like your directory already exists, Anonnn :P
[23:31] <martijn_dekker> Or you have a file with that name.
[23:31] <Anonnn> so now what :D
[23:32] <Bill|iPad> Yeah that's Hackery though
[23:32] <martijn_dekker> Just act as if your mkdir succeeded
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Anonnn: ok then the mount point exists,  use tab to complete the mount point folder
[23:32] <martijn_dekker> So uhm..
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Bill|iPad: true but proprietary drivers don't load in time to make plymouth work
[23:32] <martijn_dekker> #rosegarden is pretty much dead
[23:32] <Bill|iPad> Won't be perfect till 100% novena support I bet
[23:33] <martijn_dekker> And not so much "it's not doing much" dead, but almost doornail level dead.
[23:33] <Bill|iPad> Noveua*
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Bill|iPad: yes, if nouveau works ok then it will be flawless, just like any other open driver in most cases
[23:33] <Bill|iPad> Yup
[23:34] <Bill|iPad> Sorry spelling :D
[23:34] <Anonnn> ahhh directions were wrong the directory named it Playonlinux not PlayOnLinux
[23:34] <Anonnn> :D
[23:35] <Bill|iPad> Anon: yeah case sensitive
[23:36] <GringoStar> I'm trying to find a streaming link for the superbowl
[23:36] <semitones> I'm looking for an application to open a pdf, draw on it, and save it. Can anything do that simply?
[23:36] <semitones> (GIMP had to open it as multiple images -- couldnt' save it back as one pdf)
[23:36] <GringoStar> Gimp can
[23:36] <Starminn> I had a game installed through WINE on my last Ubuntu 10.10 install. Now that I've reinstalled Ubuntu, the game no longer works through WINE (I realize this is WINE and not Ubuntu). Any tips or any ideas for where to go with this question?
[23:37] <brunner> I installed Ubuntu on a Sony Vaio using the alternate install CD, and it was having graphics issues. I'm trying to boot into single user mode, but it keeps halting either here (http://tinyurl.com/63vrrvb) or here(http://tinyurl.com/4zxgcsq).  What could be going wrong?
[23:38] <ubuntu> hello
[23:38] <pcluser> Hello, I moved my mythbuntu to a larger drive, and mythbuntu can't find the swap on a different partition, can I tell it where to find and use it?
[23:38] <ubuntu> lol
[23:38] <Anonnn> where is my cdrom mounted?
[23:38] <Leif> there
[23:38] <Leif> better
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: the wine config is held exclusively in ~/.wine
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: same wine version
[23:39] <semitones> i basically want to remove text from a pdf
[23:39] <Albatross_G> Hey all, I got a problem. I have Xubuntu and Ubuntu installed on the same system. When I switch to Xubuntu/Xfce on login, Nautilus will open itself. If I kill Nautilus with a command, it will just pop-back up. How do I change this?
[23:39] <mikva> Starminn, I would try to "force version" from within synaptic so that it uses the previous wine version
[23:39] <shruggar> under "monitor preferences", various resolutions are listed such as "1024x768" and "1360x768".  I would like to add to this list the option of "1280x768" (my monitor's actual native resolution). How can I do this? (preferably through means other than editing xorg.conf or the like)
[23:39] <Anonnn> cdrom, PlayOnLinux, or SC2-L100-D1     where is my CD-ROM mounted
[23:39] <aeon-ltd> pcluser: unless you moved the swap aswell there won't be one
[23:39] <pcluser> I made a swap part
[23:40] <Vustom> Hey guys, preparing to install Ubuntu and I'm new to Linux type OS and have a few questions
[23:40] <pcluser> it is now sda5, was sda6
[23:40] <far_> need help with locale Cannot set LC_ALL to default no such file or Directory
[23:40] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Ah, okay. Well it's there but... Alright, everything in WINE (in ~/.wine) is fine but in Applications->Wine->Programs it's not refreshing. Things I've deleted still exist and things I've added (i.e. that game) are not appearing. How can I force it to refresh?
[23:41] <brandon420> shruggar, please let me know if someone answers that, im trying to get mine at 1280x1024       and editing the xorg.conf isnt that hard.
[23:41] <Albatross_G> Hey all, I got a problem. I have Xubuntu and Ubuntu installed on the same system. When I switch to Xubuntu/Xfce on login, Nautilus will open itself. If I kill Nautilus with a command, it will just pop-back up. How do I change this?
[23:41] <Vustom> How to find out what sound drivers I have? So i can download the linux version of them?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: the menu items were stored in ~/.config
[23:41] <shruggar> brandon420, it's not that it's "hard", it's that currently the whole system is pretty much autoconfigured, and I'd like to keep it that way as much as possible
[23:41] <semitones> pdfedit keeps crashing
[23:42] <shruggar> brandon420, I am trying a solution now
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: you can see the current driver with:  sudo lshw -C sound
[23:42] <Vustom> im on windows
[23:42] <Vustom> and english would be good :p
[23:42] <Leif> I installed ubuntu server 32bit using one single ext4 partition onto my usb memorystick, but it refuses to boot. I just get a bland screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left corner.
[23:42] <Vustom> i am new to this
[23:42] <brandon420> shruggar, ok, please let me know how it turns out. =)
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> pcluser: it involves edit fstab ( /etc/fstab ), to find it using its uuid, in a terminal type 'blkid' that will find your swap partition then use the uuid in the fstab file
[23:42] <pcluser> $ cat /etc/fstab
[23:42] <pcluser> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[23:42] <pcluser> #
[23:42] <pcluser> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[23:42] <pcluser> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[23:42] <Leif> the partition is bootable and so is the settings in bios (I mananged to boot a live version using unetbootin)
[23:42] <FloodBot3> pcluser: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <pcluser> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[23:43] <sindakus> anyone that can help me fix my broken grub? (going to grub rescue when I start my computer, currently on LiveCD)
[23:44] <Vustom> ?
[23:44] <pcluser> aeon-ltd, is it possible to get it running without reboot? I'm recording super bowl :)
[23:44] <Vustom> How to i find out what my sound driver is on windows? so I can download the linux version
[23:44] <martijn_dekker> Vustom, go to your device manager..
[23:45] <girly99> yoooooo
[23:45] <martijn_dekker> Then find your sound card in there.
[23:45] <martijn_dekker> On Windows, obviously
[23:45] <Vustom> and click on sound?
[23:45] <martijn_dekker> Yes
[23:45] <Leona> Ahoj
[23:45] <Vustom> theres a bunch of NVIDIA High Definition Audio and 1 called
[23:46] <martijn_dekker> You should be able to right-click your sound card and find out the current drivers for it in the properties menu
[23:46] <Vustom> Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1200 (Model 71xxx, Hyprid DVB-T, No FP)
[23:46] <Vustom> is that it?
[23:46] <martijn_dekker> I can't really help you with that..
[23:46] <martijn_dekker> But I doubt something named "WinTV" is your regular sound card.
[23:46] <Vustom> Theres also RealTek High Definition Audio
[23:47] <Vustom> and USB Camera
[23:47] <Leona> ...
[23:47] <semitones> Ok I found out a solution: online pdfescape did exactly what I wanted it to in 5 seconds. FTW
[23:47] <far_> need help with locale Cannot set LC_ALL to default no such file or Directory
[23:47] <linuxienne93> is someone speaking french here???
[23:48] <Leif>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[23:48] <Leif> /dev/sda1   *           1        1184     7782400   83  Linux
[23:48] <Leif> why wont it boot?
[23:48] <Leif> :(
[23:48] <col0ur> Is it possible to resize a partition?
[23:48] <Leif> yes col0ur
[23:48] <Oscuro87> french rescue herre
[23:48] <col0ur> :O
[23:48] <Leif> in geparted
[23:48] <Leona> Oui
[23:48] <col0ur> cool
[23:48] <Leif> gparted*
[23:48] <col0ur> oh ya
[23:48] <col0ur> basically i partitioned my HDD
[23:49] <col0ur> but i need to make my new partition bigger, taking space off my old one
[23:49] <col0ur> that's possible @ Leif
[23:49] <col0ur> ?
[23:49] <Leona> linuxienne93: there's your french dude
[23:49] <Leif> that will involve shrinking aswell, dunno about that
[23:49] <orgthingy> hello, i use ubuntu 10.10  --- whenever i raise the volume - i check at ALSAmixer @ terminal
[23:49] <Oscuro87> ahaha
[23:49] <orgthingy> it raises the pcm up
[23:49] <Oscuro87> salut
[23:49] <orgthingy> to 100%
[23:49] <orgthingy> which i do not want
[23:49] <Leif> it's probably possible but I don't know
[23:49] <FloodBot3> orgthingy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <orgthingy> how can i make pcm go 70% as max?
[23:50] <q0z> col0ur, yea, gparted knows how to shrink, grow and do w/e, except copy data from partion to partion, for that u need other soft
[23:50] <Vustom> Can anybody help me find what sound card i have..?
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> pcluser: swapon -a
[23:50] <Leif> nice
[23:50] <col0ur> q0z, cool thanks
[23:50] <Leif> but anyone good with GRUB?
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> pcluser: that command will swap on all swap partitions available
[23:51] <pcluser> can someone point me to quick way to re-designate swap file in fstab?
[23:51] <jrib> !swap | pcluser
[23:51] <Leif> as I said I only get a blinking cursor at boot, seems grub wont load properly
[23:51] <pcluser> aeon-ltd, i thought i tried that, will try now...
[23:51] <Leif> but I have no idea what to try next
[23:52] <q0z> Leif, do you get the grub shell?
[23:52] <Leif> installation takes several hours, so I can't just try some other setting quick
[23:52] <dragonkeeper> i have like 4 zombie processes so i cant start a program while they are running     have do i kill them .               killall -9 "program name"   doesnt work
[23:52] <Leif> no I just get a blinking cursor
[23:52] <q0z> than grubs not installed, imho
[23:52] <Vustom> I had a look in my dxdiag file and it says my Driver provider is Realtek Semiconductor Corp.and the driver name is RTKVHDA.sys
[23:52] <Leif> if nothing is installed I'd get 'nothing to boot' or similar from my bios
[23:53] <birdinatux> Hello, I am currently running Xubuntu, and would like to install backtrack as a dual boot.  My question is, what program is the best for backing up my current system to a set of dvd's so I can restore it later, in case something goes wrong during the partition resizing?
[23:53] <Vustom> so is my sound card a Realtek High Definition Audio
[23:53] <Vustom> ?
[23:53] <Leif> there is a grub folder
[23:53] <Leif> boot/grub/
[23:53] <q0z> Leif, also true... but if grub IS installed, but not configured you'd get the grub shell
[23:53] <Leif> and a grub.fg
[23:53] <Leif> cfg*
[23:53] <q0z> Leif, a..
[23:53] <pcluser> aeon-ltd, swapon -a says it can't find the device. I think it must be because the fstab has to be right to start with?
[23:53] <Leif> but I chose to install grub in the installation
[23:53] <Leif> and it seems to be on the drive when I look in the directories
[23:54] <q0z> Leif, did you install it to /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 ?
[23:54] <Leif> yes
[23:54] <Leif> should I have choose sda1?
[23:54] <q0z> Leif, no
[23:54] <Leif> ok =/
[23:54] <q0z> Leif, just checking, heh
[23:54] <Leif> hehe
[23:55] <Leif> is there something I can check is correct in the grub.cfg or similar?
[23:55] <Leif> I dont rellay know how to interpret whats there
[23:56] <dragonkeeper> i have like 4 zombie processes so i cant start a program while they are running     how do i kill them .               killall -9 "program name"   doesnt work
[23:56] <delaman> I can not for the life of me get mysql to show up with <? phpinfo(); ?>  i reinstalled everything it just doesnt show up.  any ideas?  im running ubuntu 10.10
[23:57] <Starminn> dragonkeeper, Does this help? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-send-signal-to-all-processes.html
[23:57] <Anonnn> says "click on "next" ONLY when the game installation is finished", nothing is happening it said file not found.
[23:57] <Anonnn> whoops :D
[23:57] <badger32d> dragonkeeper: kill -9 "pid"
[23:57] <Anonnn> but maybe u guys could help, playonlinux irc is dead, no one helped =/
[23:57] <q0z> Leif, well i believe the problems above me.. i've run dry of ideas other than try some commands at the prompt you get i.e. tab, kernel, who... you can also check menu.lst or grub.conf (whichever you have) so that it points to the write kernel, initrd
[23:57] <dragonkeeper> ill try badgers  if fails ill try starminn
[23:58] <q0z> Leif, *right
[23:59] <Leif> ok
[23:59] <Leif> I guess you mean fstab?
[23:59] <Leif> which I forgot where it was located =/
[23:59] <Leif> and I have no idea how to run those other commands either q0z
[23:59] <jewthulhu> hey
[23:59] <Leif> who, isn't that just for seeing who's logged in? :)