[00:13] <TchnQ> looks like it must fix it....going for reboot
[00:32] <laire_> hello
[00:34] <charlie-tca> !hi | laire_
[00:35] <laire_> I have the problem that my display ist too small for some windows, @ gnome it was possible to move them with alt+left mouse over the top from the display but with xubuntu it dont work
[00:36] <charlie-tca> I can move mine with Alt+left mouse
[00:37] <_Techie_> man its good to be back
[00:37] <charlie-tca> You might have something set in Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manger -> Window manager tweaks    that is stopping it?
[00:38] <charlie-tca> Check the Accessibility tab to make sure it Alt is the right key, too
[00:39] <laire_> ok i search
[00:39] <charlie-tca> !away > _TechAway_
[00:42] <laire_> charlie: i have installed the german version i dont find what you mean
[00:44] <laire_> ok i have it, thx
[00:47] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[00:47] <charlie-tca> it is much harder when you have to try and translate the menus, isn't it?
[00:52] <dwarf2000> Suggestion: make the menu editable.
[00:58] <charlie-tca> already done. Xfce 4.8 has editable menus using alacarte or any other menu editor
[00:59] <charlie-tca> They will be available in natty
[01:20] <dwarf2000> Sweet
[01:21] <dwarf2000> Can't wait for the new version :)
[01:21] <dwarf2000> When will it be released?
[03:07] <seanlaptop> hi all .. i was wondering if someone out there could help me out?
[03:08] <seanlaptop> i need some help with samba and sharing files between my Windows 7 pc and my Xubuntu laptop
[03:08] <seanlaptop> any takers wanna help
[03:08] <seanlaptop> ?
[03:43] <YankeesFan> !staff
[03:43] <YankeesFan> !ops
[04:08] <xubuntu027> hello every one
[04:21] <xGrind> xubun; hello
[05:23] <matty75> well... i have nvidia drivers, broadcom and a correct screen resolution! it's been a successful day
[05:23] <matty75> but... no sound
[05:23] <matty75> and... my desktop icons are gone...
[05:23] <kofte> hi
[05:23] <matty75> hi kofte
[05:24] <kofte> hi matty75
[05:25] <kofte> Question: I saw on the Ubuntu forum that "since Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx), Skype is part of the Canonical partner repository".  I just installed Xubuntu 10.04.  Would that repository work, or is it only for standard Ubuntu?
[05:28] <matty75> i don't have an answer for you on that one... i usually go to skype.com and dl it... the package should be a .deb which should work in xubuntu
[05:29] <kofte> I prefer using a repository for updates
[05:31] <matty75> the ubuntu reps should work... but i'm not 100%
[05:31] <matty75> sure
[05:32] <kofte> actually, there's a Skype repository that is already working, but it's unsigned.  If possible, I'd use the Canonical repositories, but it's not a big deal at the moment.  To some extent, it's an academic question: whether repositories work across different Ubuntu distributions
[05:50] <kofte> later
[09:08] <xubuntu178> im thinking about dl xubuntu...any good
[09:10] <xubuntu178> i have ubuntu but drain my laptop battery pretty quick, so debating b/t xubuntu or lubuntu
[09:10] <Sysi> take off desktop effects
[09:11] <xubuntu178> i did
[09:11] <Sysi> you can easily try different desktops without reinstall you know
[09:11] <Sysi> !xubuntu
[09:12] <xubuntu178> tosh sat 17.3" is a resource hog...lol
[09:12] <Sysi> you propably can't get very long battery life
[09:12] <Sysi> keep screen dim
[09:13] <xubuntu178> ino...got it as a repalcement desktop, but i need for a trip next week & win 7 is a real drain
[09:14] <xubuntu178> so im tryin every distro, prefer deb apt get over rpm
[09:14] <Sysi> lubuntu may feel limited expecially if you're used to gnome, but as well it can have everything you need
[09:15] <Sysi> surprisingly xfce is my favourite, although i'm currently on kde netbook-plasma
[09:15] <Sysi> uses significantly more battery than xfce
[09:16] <xubuntu178> ino i had kubuntu on drained batt in less than 2 hrs
[09:16] <xubuntu178> pclinuxos is the worse
[09:17] <xubuntu178> maybe ill try ubuntu netbook
[09:18] <Sysi> i think beetween xubuntu and lubuntu it's more about what programs you're using
[09:18] <xubuntu178> anyways thnx Sysi
[09:20] <xubuntu178> i've used mint xfce, lxde, cb open box & antiX in the past
[09:21] <Sysi> archlinux for really minimal
[09:22] <xubuntu178> thats when i had a old dell dimension 2400
[09:22] <Sysi> i've tried fedora, arch, suse, debian and ubuntu, with kde, gnome, xfce, and lxde and seems i always go back to xubuntu
[10:11] <ysis> Hi, I'm on Xubuntu 10.10 and have a floppy related issue: I have a line "/dev/fd0 /media/floppy vfat utf8,nosuid,user,noauto 0 0" in my /etc/fstab and the floppy is nicely mounted when I click on the desktop icon and the permissions of /media/floppy change to that of the mounting user. Now I also have a floppy disk entry in Thunar's sidebar and the Places menu in the panel. But the desktop icon and the other two options seems to be unrelated 
[10:14] <Sysi> cutted after 'unrelated'
[10:29] <ysis> Sysi: I got help in #xfce. Thanks nevertheless.
[10:30] <Sysi> i'm there too
[10:31] <ysis> Roger. :o)
[13:17] <knome> inserting dvd won't do anything after changed the "autoplay dvd" command to vlc
[13:17] <knome> ideas?
[14:16] <Lord_Rahl> I install xubuntu 10.04 i was surprised how gnome stiff it install metacity, nautilus, and few other things.
[14:17] <Lord_Rahl> I ripe them out and found on problem. just can of found it weird..
[14:18] <Lord_Rahl> guess everyone is sleeping :)
[14:38] <TheSheep> it doesn't install nautilus...
[15:02] <Lord_Rahl> TheSheep, It did for for me. I install just the server then I install xubuntu-desktop. Trick from Fab (Linux outlaws)
[15:03] <Lord_Rahl> that way you do not wast more time down loading updates
[15:04] <Lord_Rahl> I think it may pull it down for the menu editor shared lib anyway I ripe it out
[15:06] <charlie-tca> If you install any other version first, that will install things that Xubuntu will not install. Xubuntu did not install Nautilus, Ubuntu did when you installed it.
[15:08] <Lord_Rahl> nope just  install the server and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:08] <charlie-tca> and server is Ubuntu, not Xubuntu
[15:09] <Lord_Rahl> no big deal. I that it was odd maybe it some package I install or some thing. i dont know
[15:10] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu does not install nautilus. If you follow an installation that is not recommended to install it, you expect strange things to happen
[15:11] <Lord_Rahl> no big deal It all straighten out.
[15:11] <Lord_Rahl> Have you trade the alpha yet? What you think
[15:12] <Lord_Rahl> tried*
[15:12] <charlie-tca> yes, I have. I think it will be a good release in April
[15:14] <Lord_Rahl> if it anything like the 4.6 ppa It will good
[15:14] <Lord_Rahl> I think XFCE will gain a few user because of Unity
[15:18] <charlie-tca> time will tell. Unity is a very nice desktop environment
[18:30] <craigbass1976> I've got a neighbor on a pretty slow connection.  The openjdk update is stalling and dying.  Can I jsut grab a package off of my already updated computer and run over with a thumb drive to do the update that way?
[18:32] <craigbass1976> My next question is...  Is this package screwy anyway?  As I was typing my last question, I got my own error that I "Failed to Open Package Files" and I'm trying to install that same package on this fresh xubuntu install
[18:32] <craigbass1976> Lord_Rahl, Is that a Terry Goodkind nick you have?
[18:40] <Lord_Rahl> Thanks love the books
[18:40] <Lord_Rahl> that and I could not think of anything lol
[18:42] <craigbass1976> I haven't read anything for a while, maybe the pillars one.  Didn't he come out with something very "un" fantasy?
[18:44] <Lord_Rahl> hes last book the laws of nine - that was still base on the same universe -
[18:47] <Lord_Rahl> wikipedia said he coming out a new book soon
[18:48] <craigbass1976> He was getting a bit political; the one where he's a slave and carves a statue.
[18:49] <Lord_Rahl> true.. good story if you disregard all that.
[18:50] <Lord_Rahl> I dont like the tv series at all it all messed up
[19:19] <morrowind> Hi, I'm trying to install xubuntu 10.04 on an old 1.4GHz, 256MBs RAM laptop and it isn't working
[19:20] <morrowind> I select to run Live CD and it shows the Xubuntu logo and then the screen goes blank and nothing happens
[19:21] <morrowind> is there anything else I can try? I really don't wanna have to go back to XP on it
[19:21] <charlie-tca> It will take it a while to run, with the limited ram. You can also try the alternate image
[19:21] <morrowind> what's the alternate image?
[19:21] <charlie-tca> I wait as much as 5 minutes to get screens on my old pc
[19:21] <charlie-tca> which versionof Xubuntu?
[19:21] <morrowind> I was trying to run 10.04LTS
[19:22] <charlie-tca> alternate image is available here - http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.04/release/
[19:22] <morrowind> and it's been like 10 minutes and the screen is still blank
[19:22] <charlie-tca> It installs without using the gui installer, which can be faster
[19:23] <morrowind> I see
[19:23] <morrowind> so the install is text based?
[19:23] <charlie-tca> does the live desktop come up on the pc?
[19:23] <charlie-tca> yes, the alternate cd uses a text-based installer
[19:23] <morrowind> like I said, it's been 10 minutes and the screen is still blank. So how do I know that it will run once I get it installed?
[19:24] <morrowind> could it be a video driver problem
[19:24] <morrowind> I've gotten 9.04 to boot to desktop no problems
[19:24] <morrowind> but there isn't any support for 9.04 anymore
[19:24] <charlie-tca> Have you been able to get the 10.04 to boot to the desktop ?
[19:24] <morrowind> no, it's still on a blank screen
[19:25] <charlie-tca> I would nót install it then
[19:25] <charlie-tca> try 10.10 instead
[19:25] <morrowind> does 10.10 have better driver support?
[19:25] <charlie-tca> If you can not get a desktop with the cd, you probably won't get one after installing
[19:27] <Sysi> what graphics card, old intel?
[19:28] <morrowind> yea
[19:29] <morrowind> yea definitely intel
[19:29] <morrowind> it's an old celeron m processor
[19:29] <morrowind> not sure if that makes much of a difference
[19:29] <Sysi> try nomodeset as boot option
[19:29] <Sysi> or acpi=off
[19:30] <Sysi> 10.10 might work better, newer drivers
[19:30] <Sysi> i've also heard it's better on low-memory system
[19:30] <morrowind> no acpi disables power modes, what does "nomodeset" do?
[19:31] <Sysi> acpi handles more than that afaik, nomodeset is one ption for graphics driver
[19:32] <Sysi> you can google for KMS
[19:32] <morrowind> okay I'll try those boot options and if that doesn't work then I will try 10.10. Thank you
[20:39] <woody_noob> hello all. new to linux. using xubuntu. also first time on irc. i have spent 3 days working on a problem trying to get xorg to set my color depth to 16. probably 8 hours or so. anybody offer some help?
[20:41] <TheSheep> woody_noob: sure, start by pastebin-ing your xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:41] <woody_noob> k
[20:43] <woody_noob> the Xorg.0.log is a few hundred lines long. mostly [  4761.380] (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument
[20:44] <woody_noob> geting xorg.conf now
[20:46] <woody_noob> when i "locate xorg.conf" from terminal i get 9 instances, all under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[20:46] <woody_noob> when i try to use mousepad to open xorg.conf it is blank
[20:47] <woody_noob> oops. you said pastebin
[20:47] <woody_noob> i need to google how to do that.
[20:48] <charlie-tca> !pastebin
[20:48] <woody_noob> yeah. i found it. doing it now
[20:51] <woody_noob> xorg.0.log is otw
[20:53] <TheSheep> woody_noob: ok, then what were you changing for the last 8 hours if not your xorg.conf?
[20:53] <woody_noob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/563555/
[20:53] <woody_noob> well, mostly googleing not changing
[20:54] <woody_noob> i did add some stuff to the xorg.conf although it was blank to start with
[20:54] <woody_noob> it didn't like that much
[20:54] <TheSheep> woody_noob: ok, try this, edit your /etc/default/grub
[20:55] <woody_noob> cant pastbin xorg.conf due to it being blank
[20:55] <TheSheep> woody_noob: as root
[20:55] <woody_noob> sudo mousepade /etc/default/grug
[20:55] <woody_noob> like that
[20:55] <TheSheep> grub
[20:55] <TheSheep> but yes
[20:55] <TheSheep> there should be a line like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash"
[20:55] <TheSheep> or "quiet splash"
[20:56] <woody_noob> quiet splash
[20:56] <TheSheep> add a "nomodeset" to it, so that it reads "quiet splash nomodeset"
[20:56] <woody_noob> k
[20:56] <TheSheep> then run
[20:56] <TheSheep> sudo grub-update
[20:57] <TheSheep> to write your changes
[20:57] <TheSheep> and reboot to see if it works
[20:58] <woody_noob> k. doing.
[21:00] <woody_noob> rebooting
[21:03] <TheSheep> woody_noob: any luck?
[21:04] <woody_noob> it booted. should i know look to see if xorg.conf is blank?
[21:05] <woody_noob> still blank
[21:05] <TheSheep> it will stay blank
[21:05] <TheSheep> look if you still have the errors in the log
[21:05] <woody_noob> k
[21:08] <woody_noob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/563566/
[21:08] <woody_noob> still has errors
[21:10] <TheSheep> do you know what graphics card you have?
[21:10] <TheSheep> what does lspci | grep VGA   say?
[21:11] <woody_noob> intel 815
[21:11] <woody_noob> i'll look in lspci tho
[21:12] <woody_noob> woody@woody-MX3560:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[21:12] <woody_noob> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[21:12] <woody_noob> glxgears looks good
[21:13] <woody_noob> problem is 815 chip doens't do 3d acceleration in 24 color depth, only 16
[21:19] <TheSheep> I assume you have looked at the forums?
[21:19] <TheSheep> You might ask on #ubuntu, that part is the same and there are way more people in there
[21:20] <woody_noob> k
[21:20] <woody_noob> thanks for your help bro.
[21:20] <woody_noob> or bro-ette
[22:37] <ball> Does Xubuntu use the same network manager thing as (Gnome) Ubuntu?
[23:15] <imran> I could not get the BTRFS to work with my setup of 11.04 - natty for xubuntu.
[23:15] <imran> didn't have an issue with the same on 10.10 on ubuntu -any one know a work around ?
[23:16] <Ycarene> What's the latest nvidia drivers that jockey pulls down?
[23:58] <calz> hello everyone
[23:58] <calz> can someone answer something