[01:05] <doctormo> highvoltage: You've always had the ability to ask me for art, you just never have ;-P
[01:13] <highvoltage> doctormo: indeed :)
[01:14] <highvoltage> doctormo: I guess I didn't realise how talented you were before
[01:14] <highvoltage> (/me wonders how susceptable doctormo is to flattery)
[01:15] <doctormo> lo, highvoltage, I'm rather dubious about my talent to draw, I'm more of a sculptor. BUT
[01:15] <doctormo> I've really very good at manipulating media, using and reusing resources and componentising images.
[01:16] <doctormo> Although I'm happy with the way TGM came out.
[01:16] <doctormo> highvoltage: What do you need?
[01:31] <highvoltage> doctormo: we need a wallpaper for edubuntu, preferably one that doesn't suck
[01:31] <doctormo> what's the themes?
[01:32] <doctormo> Want it more cartoony, more realism, bright, shaded, textured?
[01:32] <highvoltage> doctormo: we have some basic requirements but their not that hard, we want to avoid text on the wallpapers, and it would be nice to be able to have a simplified verison for the LTSP login manager that can only display text in one colour
[01:32] <highvoltage> doctormo: in terms of themes, you have lots of artistic license, but we want to avoid clichés like books and blackboards and world maps if possible
[01:33] <doctormo> highvoltage: So, do you need a wallpaper or a KMS splash?
[01:33] <highvoltage> wallpaper
[01:34] <doctormo> So no moving parts or text version required.
[01:35] <highvoltage> nope, but if the wallpaper is nice then it would indeed be nice having an animated plymouth theme available that maches
[01:35] <highvoltage> ubuntu just boots up so fast anyway that I don't think we'll care too much about that anyway
[01:36] <highvoltage> there's been some submissions on http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-6/ so far, I like some of the ideas behind some of them, but I think we should be a bit more ambitious for natty
[02:09] <highvoltage> doctormo: not that I want to scare anyone away with too many requirements, having something just in concept is sometimes nice too :)
[06:48] <doctormo> highvoltage: I have an idea I will execute on
[12:33] <highvoltage> doctormo: great :)
[12:54] <mgariepy> good morning everyone
[13:01] <highvoltage> good morning mgariepy
[14:31] <sakhi> good afternoon highvoltage ;)
[14:32]  * sakhi ntpdate time.za.org gmt+2 ;)
[14:32] <sakhi> later
[14:41] <highvoltage> hey sakhi
[14:41] <highvoltage> 9:40 in the morning here :)
[18:41] <doctormo> highvoltage: ping
[18:43] <highvoltage> doctormo: pong
[18:45] <doctormo> highvoltage: This is my artistic vision for the wallpaper http://imagebin.org/136621 It's very early days. But I've very happy with the background.
[18:46] <highvoltage> doctormo: yes, that certainly has potential. the fish looks a bit sick :)
[18:47] <doctormo> highvoltage: The problem is, I agree with thorwil and I won't enter a competition.
[18:47] <doctormo> For art
[18:47] <doctormo> If you think I can do the piece, and you've seen my tentative suggestion.
[18:48] <doctormo> I need you to give me more concrete direction and confirmation that you'll work with me on it and not waste my time if I do it.
[18:48] <highvoltage> doctormo: ok, I understand completely
[18:50] <highvoltage> (still gathering comments on that wallpaper in my head... give me a moment :) )
[18:51] <highvoltage> doctormo: I can commit to you that we can work with you with a wallpaper, if you're willing to adapt and change your work as we need. obviously we can't commit to something if we haven't seen a final version of it yet (which I'm sure you'll understand)
[18:51] <highvoltage> here are some notes on your current submision:
[18:52] <highvoltage> * The shadeblocks that make the borders around the image are nice, but they will be partially hidden by pannels in the login screen and in the desktop session, which will make it look a bit out of place at times
[18:53] <highvoltage> * The two narwhals don't look like they've been drawn in the same style. that said, I'm not really sure how great idea narwhals is for a default desktop background (maybe for an add-on since it is the code-name for the release, but probably not for a default)
[18:54] <highvoltage> * The slipstream in the ocean is a bit too bright imho, some people don't like very bright images on wallpapers, it might not be a big problem though
[18:54] <doctormo> highvoltage: The block/borders are actually part of the template. I should have removed those before uploading.
[18:58] <highvoltage> doctormo: could you join us around this time on Wednesday for the Edubuntu meeting so that we can discuss it too with the others present? I like that you're taking this seriously, if you're willing to continue and work with feedback then we can probably commit to using a wallpaper that you provide. I definitely don't want your time to be wasted, and looking at that squeeze card you made I know you're capable
[19:00] <doctormo> highvoltage: I should be available on Wednesday. Please make sure to email/message me too.
[19:00] <highvoltage> doctormo: ok, will do
[19:01] <doctormo> highvoltage: http://imagebin.org/136624
[19:01] <highvoltage> doctormo: also, I sometimes sound a bit more picky than I am, so if anything sounds harsh it's most probably not meant that way
[19:03] <doctormo> highvoltage: I don't actually wipe original art forms, this can go through 50 revisions and I'd keep all 50 ;-)
[19:03] <doctormo> just incase I think you're wrong :-P
[19:04] <highvoltage> doctormo: ok, great!
[19:05] <highvoltage> doctormo: I just looked at your squeeze card again, there's something about the colours that you used that I like a lot too, but that might just be me. I wonder if we should get wider feedback sooner or later, do you have any recommendations?
[19:06] <doctormo> highvoltage: The colours could have been chance, although the difference is that the card is more refined and finished
[19:06] <doctormo> Since I could go through all interations with my own brain for what I was after
[19:06] <doctormo> But I'm taking the same style from the card to try and impliment what you're looking for.
[19:07]  * highvoltage takes a look at doctormo's deviantart channel (been meaning to but haven't gotten to it yet)
[19:08] <highvoltage> what tools do you use to create your artwork?
[19:10] <doctormo> highvoltage: Inkscape
[19:10] <doctormo> It's all vector, that svg for the underwater scene is heavy duty. My 2GHz core2 due suffers rendering it ;-)
[19:11] <highvoltage> heh, I'm not the only one who needs a new i7 then :)
[19:13] <highvoltage> doctormo: nice concept! http://doctormo.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Circuit-2-172263353?q=gallery:doctormo/701269&qo=22
[19:19]  * alkisg likes the ubunchu covers :)
[19:21] <doctormo> highvoltage: Consider that visual style too, maybe that's more what you're after.
[19:23] <highvoltage> doctormo: could be, I guess I'm mezmorised by the all the smooth gradients and textures
[19:23] <highvoltage> (and I think it would be a nice style for edubuntu)
[19:39] <doctormo> highvoltage: Something to think about for your meeting.
[19:39] <doctormo> I guess it's important to develop a visual style for edubuntu
[19:39] <doctormo> Perhaps this is something the Canonical design team could be persuated to help with?