[00:16] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[00:16] <rufsketch1> I was trying to install nvidia drivers. I ran nvidia-xconfig and restarted, and now I'm stuck in terminal
[00:17] <rufsketch1> I replaced xorg with its backup, but to no avail
[00:17] <rufsketch1> help please?
[00:19] <rufsketch1> !nvidia
[01:01] <Goliath> where is kde splash screen located?
[01:04] <valorie> you mean changing it?
[01:04] <valorie> it's in systemsettings
[01:04] <Goliath> valorie: yes
[01:04] <Goliath> where exactly?
[01:05] <valorie> startup and shutdown, i think, in System Administration
[01:05] <Mase_wk> Login Screen
[01:05] <valorie> mmm, well, login screen is the KDM
[01:06] <valorie> which isn't the splash
[01:06] <Mase_wk> i thought it was a property of the kdm theme
[01:06] <Mase_wk> but i could be wrong
[01:07] <valorie> fiddlesticks
[01:07] <valorie> can't find it, and yet I know I have set it
[01:07] <valorie> !splash
[01:07] <valorie> heh
[01:07] <valorie> just ask ubottu!
[01:08] <valorie> Workspace Appearance, to be specific
[01:10] <Goliath> valorie: ok and where is the default splash theme saved at?
[01:11] <valorie> hmm, I have no clue
[01:11] <Goliath> i need to find it so i can modify the splash theme
[01:11] <valorie> however, if you Get Hot New Stuff, it should say where things are being saved
[01:11] <Goliath> k
[01:11] <valorie> or look in KDE-Looks.org
[01:11] <valorie> which is what that links to
[01:12] <valorie> new splashes and themes are always welcome
[01:26] <Goliath> valorie: is there a way to remove the button on the upper-right for unlocking widgets?
[01:29] <valorie> mmm, there must be
[01:29] <valorie> because I don't have one
[01:29] <valorie> just the one on the lower right
[01:29] <valorie> oops, lying -- it's still there
[01:30] <valorie> you might ask in #plasma
[01:30] <Goliath> i somehow removed mine
[01:30] <Goliath> while using panels
[01:30] <valorie> it's barely visible, which is why I thought it was gone
[01:30] <Goliath> maybe a bug
[01:46] <Goliath>  splash screens: /usr/share/apps/ksplash
[02:12] <diego_> p2p program? like ares for linux?
[04:29] <fengya> ？？？
[05:37] <ecinx> i updated my laptop today and mybluetooth isn't wroking
[05:38] <ecinx> it says no bt adapters found, please attatch one
[05:38] <ecinx> please connnect one*
[05:39] <ecinx> the BT light on my notebook is also OFF,
[05:40] <makuseru> Im having some problems with Ktorrent. Sometime last week KTorrent started acting odd, and now when ever i open it my computer slows to a crawl, almost making it crash. Anyone know why this would happen and how I could fix it?
[05:51] <valorie> makuseru: how about starting ktorrent from the console, so you can see some output?
[05:51] <valorie> and also run top or system monitor, etc.
[05:51] <valorie> see what's going on
[05:54] <makuseru> valorie: i wouldnt know what to look for in the console, but the system monitor reports 2% cpu usage.
[05:55] <elcid_> Does system monitor report root processes
[05:55] <elcid_> cause top doesnt unless you sudo?
[05:56] <makuseru> elcid_: it says if something is running as root.
[05:59] <valorie> 2% sounds very low
[06:00] <elcid_> Yeah mines running 17-33%
[06:01] <elcid_> and top reports a lot more processes than system monitor
[06:05] <makuseru> The only thing taking up significant % is xorg.
[06:08] <elcid_> try at terminal `sudo gnome-system-monitor' that will give you more "truth"
[06:09] <elcid_> i get ~64 processes invoking it as regular user and ~100 as superuser
[06:11] <elcid_> I just ran into this problem with another app, and i thought that I was looking at all processes in top, but I wasn't.
[07:11] <epimeth> ahoy!  where is the option to install kubuntu alongside windows using wubi?
[07:23] <valorie> you can't install kubuntu directly using wubi?
[07:23] <valorie> hmmm
[07:23] <valorie> sucks a bit
[07:23] <FloodBotK3> valorie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:23] <valorie> so helpful you are, floodie
[07:24] <valorie> !wubi
[07:25] <valorie> so it is;, which explains why I've not heard much about it
[07:26] <maco> i thought you could
[07:26] <maco> but i think it involves downloading wubi separately and handing it the kubuntu iso
[07:48] <valorie> interesting, so I wonder if we offer it at kub. org?
[07:49] <valorie> cool, there it is
[07:50] <valorie> http://wubi-installer.org/
[07:50] <valorie> mmmm, but then I don't see it on that page
[07:50] <valorie> not even the alternate install stuff
[07:51] <maco> wubi doesnt work with alt cds does it?
[07:51] <valorie> I've never tried it
[07:53]  * nlsthzn sees WUBI and runs away... it is scary
[08:03] <Coossa> such sadness.
[08:03] <Coossa> why must it be this way KDE
[08:03] <Coossa> how do you tint my reality till i die, because of my quality of life
[08:03] <Coossa> and ownership which will not be broken when i wake up after the death
[08:03] <Coossa> and in the reality , the lie fades to such huge
[08:04] <Coossa> such
[08:04] <Coossa> why KDE
[08:04] <Coossa> !!!
[08:04] <FloodBotK3> Coossa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <Coossa> oh floodbot.
[08:04] <Coossa> how much i wish you could feel as i do
[08:04] <Coossa> to place a lantern beneath those nails
[08:05] <Coossa> bone vortexes at the gaps on both sides of our finger nails
[08:05] <Coossa> i could pull it out and show you what i mean. This KDE
[08:06] <Coossa> ggaaaha. i can't take it
[09:05] <ct529> hi guys .... if I install lxdm, can I run kde off lxdm instead of kdm?
[09:05] <Tm_T> yes
[09:07] <ct529> Tm_T: do you "loose" anything (configurations and so on)?
[09:17] <Tm_T> ct529: shouldn't, other than possibly session switching gets trickier
[09:22] <nlsthzn> kubuntu 10.10, running KDE 4.6... windows not always refresshing as they should when I min/max them or scroll (firefox etc)... any ideas why?
[09:22] <ct529> Tm_T: not worried about it! Thanks a lot ....
[09:25] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: hmm, which graphics card you have?
[09:26] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: intel... on a laptop... will be back soon ... sorry
[10:19] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: Back.... it is Intel 945GME Express Integrated Graphics
[10:30] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: do you encounter the same problem if you disable the desktop effects
[10:30] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: Unfortunatly not
[10:30]  * nlsthzn needs his bling
[10:31] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: I mean, could you try if it makes any difference so we have some idea what it might be?
[10:31] <nlsthzn> to be honest I haven't had desktop effects off long enough but the few times I have it seems not to happen when it is off
[10:32] <nlsthzn> will turn it off now
[10:32] <nlsthzn> QQ
[10:33] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: if there's no issues when effects are off, try increasing the mem given to the graphics card from bios and see if that makes difference when effects are on
[10:34] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: Hmmm... not sure I can set that... (cause if I could I surely would have already :p)
[10:34] <nlsthzn> will have a look... thanks
[10:35] <nlsthzn> Hmmm I see there is still a lot of eye candy in KDE even without dektop effects (and the whole desktop isn't so sluggish anylonger)... I may need to keep it off regardless :)
[10:37] <valorie> Tm_T: how on earth does one do THAT trick?
[10:37] <valorie> I've often wished for more graphics memory
[10:38] <valorie> of course, messing with the bios sounds a bit dangerous
[10:39] <Tm_T> valorie: messing with bios is always the first thing I do, and often there's an option to adjust the reserved memory for the integrated graphics in the bios
[10:39] <nlsthzn> valorie: if the bios gives the option to increase/decrease video memory it isn't "dangerous" per say :)
[10:39] <valorie> wow
[10:39] <Tm_T> I think in some cases it can be adjusted from Linux too
[10:40] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: I will check it out if and when I reboot again... for now I am happy without the effects... (may also get resolved later in a an update etc.)
[10:41] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: yup, could be driver issue too
[10:41] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: that is 99% of the time the problem
[10:43] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: not enough mem has been the most frequent issue in my use
[10:43] <nlsthzn> Will keep it mind, thanks :)
[10:55] <ct529> is it possible to update 1004 to 1010 automatically?
[10:56] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[10:57] <Tm_T> ct529: ^
[11:20] <ct529> Tm_T: thanks a lot
[11:21] <Tm_T> ct529: np
[11:45] <jordi_> es
[11:54] <manish> jjlk
[12:33] <amichair> is there a iptables rules script that runs on startup? (by default, or with a default location, that is)
[13:01] <Tsunami1> Sveiki idioti
[13:03] <jhohn> amichair: easiest is to put it in /etc/network/interfaces or add scripts to /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ and /etc/network/if-post-down.d/
[13:04] <amichair> jhohn: is inteface only for fixed networks? I don't see the wireless stuff there
[13:05] <Tsunami1> plz i need help, fast
[13:06] <jhohn> amichair: Do you use networkmanager?
[13:06] <jhohn> Tsunami: if you need help you should not title us idiots. Help yourself!
[13:06] <amichair> jhohn: I think so, if that's what the standard applet in the system tray uses
[13:07] <jhohn> amichair: ok, thats networkmanager. Moment pls.
[13:07] <amichair> I saw in centos there's just a standard iptables init.d script, with a standard location for the rules file, I take it there's no equivalent in ubuntu?
[13:08] <jhohn> amichair: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration%20on%20Startup%20for%20NetworkManager
[13:10] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast
[13:11] <amichair> jhohn: that looks ok, thanks. Too bad it's not there by default (what's there to lose?)
[13:14] <jhohn> amichair: A firewall needs to be run on an extra system. It makes no sense to run it on the system I want to secure with it. Just close all ports you do not need. Thats it.
[13:15] <jhohn> amichair: no open port == nothing to get in
[13:15] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast very
[13:15] <amichair> jhohn: my scenario is a netbook/laptop with some dev stuff on it (e.g. web server), but even without it, I see there's a cups port open by default... so it's not too secure when connecting to random wireless networks
[13:16] <amichair> I'd like to keep the ports open locally, but closed to the world
[13:17] <jhohn> amichair: For this using a seperate system as firewall will be best
[13:18] <amichair> jhohn: but it's a portable system... won't be carrying an extra one as a firewall anytime soon :-)
[13:18] <jhohn> amichair: configure the services to only listen to 127.0.0.0/8
[13:20] <amichair> jhohn: I think that's more work and less secure than just using iptables, no?
[13:21] <cordonnier> hello!  someone who had trouibles with 3dsp @KUbuntu 10.04.1 - 2.6.32-24   driver already installed
[13:21] <jhohn> amichair: its more work but more secure but you do not get that much information about attackers in syslog
[13:22] <jhohn> !someone | cordonnier
[13:22] <amichair> jhohn: true... but I'm not sure I need it. It's just a dev box, not a honeypot :-)
[13:22] <Tsunami1> Kas teu tolet nau, ka tu beninjos kakaa?
[13:24] <jhohn> Tsunami1: Kindergarten finished already?
[13:24] <Tsunami1> Green
[13:25] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast very good
[13:26] <jhohn> amichair: so what daemons do you run?
[13:27] <Tsunami1> Yes, armchair
[13:27] <amichair> apache, sometimes tomcat, and apparently cups. also found exim running even though I never set it up... must be a dependency of something (I think apt-listchanges installed it at one point, oddly enough)
[13:31] <jhohn> amichair: apache -> edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf, change "Listen 80" to "Listen 127.0.0.1:80"
[13:31] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast very good tomatoes
[13:31] <cordonnier> 3dsp (wifi and blueth) troubles.  driver already installed. netbook kubuntu 10.04.1-  2.6.32-24
[13:31] <jhohn> change "Listen 443" to "127.0.0.1:443" if you are using https
[13:31] <amichair> jhohn: thanks, but I think I'll stick to setting up the firewall. it's future-proof too.
[13:32] <amichair> jhohn: the link u sent me seems to do the trick
[13:32] <jhohn> its up to you
[13:32] <jhohn> if the FW do not start for any reason you have open ports to the net
[13:34] <amichair> jhohn: true, that's why I'm looking for the proper way to do it in a startup script
[13:36]  * Tsunami1 ir izcilas anglju valodas zinaashanas
[13:38] <amichair> are the /etc/network/if-pre-up.d and similar scripts used also by networkmanager, or are there two separate script mechanisms unknown to each other?
[13:39] <Tsunami1> echo buutu precizaak
[13:39] <jhohn> do not know exactly but I think networkmanager do not use scripts in /etc/network
[13:41] <jhohn> there is a networkmanager wiki at http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager
[14:02] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with banshee? IT wont start up http://pastie.org/1536748
[14:12] <ubuntu> Salut
[14:13] <ubuntu> h
[14:13] <ubuntu> dfg
[14:13] <ubuntu> fgh
[14:13] <ubuntu> dgh
[14:13] <ubuntu> fgh
[14:13] <ubuntu___> hello
[14:13] <FloodBotK3> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:13] <ubuntu> tu ris
[14:13] <ubuntu___> hihih
[14:13] <ubuntu> lol
[14:13] <ubuntu> aller je me barre
[14:14] <ubuntu___> a pluis dans le bus
[14:20] <pliszka> hi
[14:21] <pliszka> has anyone had kubuntu on Mobile Intel® HM55 Express Chipset?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:48] <markit> kde 4.6, dolphin seems no more able to find files based upon i.e. creation or modification data... is that feature hidden somewhere? can't find it
[15:14] <cortex|sk> markit: in dolphin menu -> views -> panels -> filter or press F12
[15:14] <eternal> hey everyone, could someone help me out with something real quick?
[15:15] <eternal> ??
[15:15] <bluesceada> dont ask to ask, just ask ;-)
[15:15] <bluesceada> then we know if we can help
[15:15] <eternal> haha ok, thank you :)
[15:16] <eternal> i just downloaded kubuntu, and i wanted to install through wubi, but i am not getting the option.
[15:16] <eternal> i am just running wubi.exe from inside the iso
[15:16] <eternal> am i doing something wrong?
[15:16] <bluesceada> i don't know, never did that
[15:16] <bluesceada> wait a while, maybe someone else can answer your question
[15:16] <eternal> alright, thank you
[15:17] <bluesceada> but it's quite silent here somehow, ..
[15:17] <bluesceada> eternal: maybe the wubi.exe is not compiled for either 32 or 64bit, depending on what windows version you have
[15:17] <eternal> is it normally pretty active?
[15:17] <cortex|sk> eternal: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[15:18] <bluesceada> a bit more active i think
[15:18] <bluesceada> depends also on the time probably
[15:18] <eternal> hmm, alright i will read up on that
[15:19] <eternal> however, i downloaded the 64bit version of kubunto, i would have assumed it would have it work on 64 bit lol
[15:20] <bluesceada> eternal: maybe you have a 32bit windows?
[15:20] <eternal> i have 64bit
[15:20] <bluesceada> but this is just guessing, i dont really know anything about it
[15:20] <eternal> no, i appreciate any help i can get. i did it before with 10.04 i think it was
[15:20] <eternal> but i wanted the newer one
[15:21] <bluesceada> mabye also ask in some forum, where your question stands for a longer time
[15:21] <bluesceada> ah ok
[15:21] <eternal> i may, if it isnt answered here
[15:21] <eternal> however, if i am the only one getting this, the problem is certainly somewhere between the keyboard and the chair :-p
[15:22] <JuJuBee> Why would my arrows not work on my laptop but the numbers on number pad do (ie #8 = up etc...)?
[15:22] <JuJuBee> I have separate arrow keys from my numberpad and they have always worked before 10.10
[15:24] <eternal> sorry JuJuBee, i dont know :(
[15:26] <markit> cortex|sk: filter is disabled, I've been told works only with nepomuck, that I've disabled because don't want features like M$oscrap "background indexing"
[15:26] <markit> with 4.5 the files were searched "on the fly", probably through the find command
[15:26] <markit> and was very nice :)
[15:27] <eternal> does anyone know how to install kubuntu 10.10 through wubi?
[15:27] <cortex|sk> eternal: what exactly doesn't work ?
[15:27]  * nlsthzn runs from WUBI because it is EVIL (IMO of course)
[15:27] <eternal> i run wubi.exe from the iso file and it just gives me the normal options.
[15:28] <eternal> no option to install from within windows
[15:28] <cortex|sk> markit: have you tried kfind?
[15:29] <markit> cortex|sk: a separate program?
[15:29] <markit> (I've 4.6 on the laptop, now I'm on 4.5 here)
[15:29] <eternal> nlsthzn: why do you think wubi is evil? lol
[15:29] <markit> cortex|sk: oh, great, kfind is what was run by dophin 4.5
[15:29] <cortex|sk> ;)
[15:30] <markit> cortex|sk: thanks a LOT. is it possible to have it back to 4.6
[15:30] <markit> ?
[15:30] <cortex|sk> yes
[15:30] <markit> I mean, run directly from dolphin
[15:30] <nlsthzn> eternal: the amount of issues and problems on ubuntu forums related to wubi and the lack of user understanding is terrible
[15:30] <cortex|sk> i don't know
[15:30] <cortex|sk> :D
[15:30] <markit> cortex|sk: wondering why developers decided to reduce so much search capabilities... maybe they call it "improvements", I disagree a lot
[15:31] <eternal> if i install normally, and partition my HD, it is much more of a hassle to remove it. especially since the last time i did that, i had to fix the bootloader
[15:31] <Snowhog> eternal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi
[15:32] <eternal> thank you Snowhog, however i have used Wubi before.
[15:32] <eternal> this time, the option for "Install inside Windows" doesnt appear
[15:36] <bluesceada> eternal: did something change within windows?
[15:37] <eternal> well the only thing i can think of is that last time i had 32 bit windows 7, now i have 64 bit. i know you said about it not being compiled for 64 bit, but why would they package 32bit with a 64 bit install...
[15:37] <jimmy51_> i'm trying to use wine.  never got it to do anything in the past and it's doing nothing now.  i've installed the 'wine' package and just clicked on the setup.exe for the app i want to run.
[15:37] <bluesceada> maybe it is more complicated to compile it for 64bit windows
[15:37] <bluesceada> i dont know
[15:37] <eternal> that's ok, i may just do a normal install
[15:37] <bluesceada> try to run it in some sort of compatibility mode maybe
[15:37] <jimmy51_> i get a 'wine windows pro..' working taskbar item but then it disappears
[15:37] <eternal> if i cant figure it out, that's kinda all im left with
[15:38] <bluesceada> jimmy51_: maybe try "playonlinux"
[15:38] <jimmy51_> !info playonlinux
[15:38] <eternal> thanks, i will try compatibility modes
[15:38] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: i'll do that.  thanks!
[15:38] <bluesceada> it can also install some compatibility stuff or basic stuff you need like directx and .NET .. afaik
[15:39] <bluesceada> and have a separate wine prefix for each app, so you can ideally setup wine for that app
[15:40] <bluesceada> and... another hint ... try to run wine from shell and see the errors like open a shell in the directory where the .exe is and enter "wine xyz.exe" .. it might also show the missing .dll files on the shell then
[15:40] <bluesceada> which you only need to collect somewhere online and put in the app folder
[15:40] <eternal> thank you all who helped, my class is over, so i will have to try to figure this out later.
[15:40] <eternal> hopefully next time im on here will be from kubuntu!
[15:40] <bluesceada> eternal: lol, you should listen and not do something else ;-)
[15:40] <eternal> intro to programming in C
[15:41] <eternal> not all too new ;)
[15:41] <eternal> good day everyone
[15:55] <crazyzubr> проверка
[15:55] <Snowhog> !ru | crazyzubr
[16:04] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: thanks... this has potential.  i can't believe i've never heard of it!
[16:04] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: the app i'm running is a CAD viewer and it seems to be working ok.  the only thing is it days it doesn't see an opengl driver and is doing software rendering.
[16:04] <bluesceada> yeh i also just have heard of it two days ago ;D
[16:04] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: i'm glad i asked today and not friday! :)
[16:05] <bluesceada> maybe try installing directx with playonlinux then
[16:05] <bluesceada> or ask in #wine #playonlinux (if they exist..)
[16:05] <bluesceada> :D
[16:06] <pickabuntu> hello
[16:07] <rork> hi pickabuntu
[16:08] <pickabuntu> oh, sorry, wrong irc channel in the history.---- sorry once again
[16:10] <FlashDeluxe> hi, i am using a notebook with intel mobile 4 series chipset and i use the drivers which were automatically installed (i setted up a new kubuntu 10.10 from scratch), but they do not work properly :( Does somebody got a tip for me which is the best driver to use?
[16:11] <AlexZion> hi guys, I have some strange problem with Kubuntu Maverick and kde 4.6, stability problem ,can I ask some support here !?!
[16:11] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, what are you referring to , graphics or ?
[16:12] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: Yes
[16:12] <BluesKaj> AlexZion, yes, by all means ask your w=question
[16:12] <FlashDeluxe> my graphic hangs at some points :(
[16:12] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, which graphics card ?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, lspci | grep VGA in the konsole
[16:13] <FlashDeluxe> intel i915
[16:15] <Snowhog> FlashDeluxe: Read through http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=91663&hilit=.drirc - it might apply to your issue.
[16:16] <AlexZion> ok, sometime, i don't know exactly why,the system keep going (for example a video keep playng like any running process), but the mouse start to be unusable , end the mouse click , seems to be disabled ......, and after few minutes , everything comes back as normal ....
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !intel | FlashDeluxe
[16:16] <BluesKaj> wow the bot is becoming hopeless
[16:17] <AlexZion> so I don't know if the reason could be some my configuration or not....
[16:19] <FlashDeluxe> Shnowhog: Thanks, i will test it when i am at home, cause i do not have my notebook at my working place, BluesKaj thanks for help, too :)
[16:21] <FlashDeluxe> I have another question, if i want to run a flashvideo in fullscreen mode, it doesn`t seem to happen anything, but if i minimize my firefox i see that the fullscreen runs in the background (?!). Does anybody know this issue (and know how to fix it?)
[16:21] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, I'm not sure about jockey , whether it applies to intel graphics , but check kmenu/applications/system/hardware drivers
[16:21] <elcid_> firefox douchebaggery
[16:22] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:23] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: ok
[16:25] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, also check out medibuntu
[16:25] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | FlashDeluxe
[16:27] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: sounds good, didn`t know it before, thank you =)
[16:30] <Goliath> hey i create some panels with auto-hide option, and when i reboot they are set to always-visible again.
[16:34] <fritz_> Hi everybody! Anyone here familiar in xine issues? I've got a strange xine prob. It seems as if it resamples everything to 48 khz unregarded which sample rate the original has. I've tested it with 44.1 kHz flac and 96 kHz wav files. Always the result :(
[16:34] <fritz_> the same result, sorry
[16:38] <Peace-> mmm
[16:39] <Loresan> hi all, im looking to move from ubuntu to kubuntu prior to their 11.04 unity release. i was going to install kubuntu first but i was put off by some issues with KDE that were advertised. Are there any current major issues with kubuntu? or should it be stable and easy on the eye?
[16:39] <Peace-> Loresan:  kernels are the same
[16:39] <Peace-> so hardware should work in the same way
[16:40] <Peace-> kde 4.6 is a pretty stable release
[16:40] <Loresan> basically what im hoping for is to NOT have to spend time post installation ironing out bugs
[16:40] <Loresan> ok cool. thanks for the help :) im downloading the iso now
[16:40] <Peace-> Loresan: anyway...
[16:40] <Loresan> i think it was 4.5 that had issues? or something like that
[16:41] <Peace-> welll kde 4.5.1 had issues
[16:41] <Peace-> kde 4.5.5 should not
[16:41] <Peace-> i am right now on natty kde 4.6
[16:41] <Peace-> that is UNSTABLE
[16:42] <Peace-> on the kernel side
[16:42] <Peace-> kde is pretty stable
[16:42] <Loresan> yeah, that was part of my next question... how unstable is the alpha? is it worth installing into a virtual machine?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Loresan, there are some 11.04 issues with the new X1.10 stack , it can break X on your system by removing and "upgrading " some important xorg files ...I reverted to 10.10 which is much more stable and runs kde 4.6 without any problems for my setup so far
[16:43] <Loresan> ok cool
[16:43] <Peace-> Loresan: it's not safe install an alpha expecially for noobs
[16:43] <Peace-> Loresan: i had problems with 10.10 kernel so ...
[16:44] <Peace-> i am on natty and lucid
[16:44] <Peace-> xD
[16:44] <Peace-> Loresan: http://blip.tv/file/4697114?filename=Nowardev-Kubuntu1104PreviewWithKde46882.m4v
[16:44] <Loresan> im a noob to kubuntu, i usually use fedora (due to the link between that and CentOS which i use for servers) but to be honest im falling out of love with fedora as a desktop
[16:45] <Peace-> Loresan: well... when fedora will remove your desktop with strange dependeces or freeze
[16:45] <Peace-> Loresan: i guess... you will change distro
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Peace-, the 2.6.35.25 kernel wouldn't boot into X on my other pc on 10.10, so i had to remove in favour of the 2.6.35.22
[16:45] <Peace-> a lots of time it can depend from the hardware btw
[16:46] <Peace-> BluesKaj: well xx.10 for me is never a good release
[16:46] <Peace-> XX.04  is always better on my hardware
[16:46] <Peace-> :S
[16:46] <BluesKaj> on older pcs the text based alternate install cd is best
[16:46] <Peace-> BluesKaj: yea
[16:46] <Peace-> used a lots of time
[16:46] <genii-around> I always have 2 installs going... the last LTS on one partition, latest dev on another. This way you have some recourse when things fail horribly
[16:47] <Peace-> genii-around: mee too
[16:47] <Peace-> :)
[16:47] <Peace-> lucid and natty right now
[16:47] <Peace-> home shared
[16:47] <Peace-> different user btw
[16:47] <Peace-> users
[16:47] <rork> Loresan: do you remember which issues you worried about?
[16:47] <Peace-> Loresan: anyway take a look at this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-want-to-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/
[16:48] <Peace-> Loresan: to set better dolphin
[16:48] <Peace-> Loresan: of course that is my point of view
[16:48] <Peace-> nothing more
[16:48] <Loresan> mainly it was KDEs stability but i have been assured that Kubuntu as a release is stable enough
[16:50] <Peace-> BluesKaj: xd http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/nonepomucknoserachstuff.png
[16:50] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ram usage
[16:50] <Peace-> :P
[16:51] <BluesKaj> I hope the the X1.10 is fixed by the time it's official..I'm a bit worried because it was unfixable on my setup ... the clean 10.10 install was easy enuff with a /home partiton that saved my stuff
[16:52] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ??
[16:53] <genii-around> BluesKaj: So far I'm only having major probs with my big old laptop which has nvidia onboard. The netbook which is running identical setup otherwise has an intel and hehaves perfectly
[16:53] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have added on natty xedegers ppa...
[16:53] <BluesKaj> on 11.04 Peace-
[16:53] <Peace-> BluesKaj: that repository is not safe ... but of course it's safe if oyu know how to downgrade your driver..
[16:54] <Loresan> oh, i have another question.. would any of you happen to be using a sandy bridge processor by any remote chance?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> genii-around, aha , both my pcs have nvidia pcie cards , that's probly the focus of the prblem
[16:54] <bug_> hello
[16:54] <Peace-> BluesKaj: intel here
[16:54] <bug_> can any help with installing Adobe AIR in Kubuntu 10.10?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> !sandybridge
[16:55] <Peace-> adobe air?
[16:55] <Peace-> what is it ?
[16:55] <bug_> yeh adobe air
[16:55] <Peace-> bug_: exe?
[16:55] <bug_> oops sorry about that
[16:55] <bug_> nope i download ed it as a bin file
[16:55] <bug_> the options were .bin .deb .rpm or YUM
[16:56] <Peace-> bug_: so .. if there is a deb...
[16:56] <Peace-> i would test the deb...
[16:56] <Peace-> anyway
[16:56] <bug_> is deb the best choice
[16:56] <Peace-> maybe just chmod +x filebin
[16:56] <Peace-> should work
[16:56] <Peace-> running it like
[16:56] <bug_> i'll the chmod
[16:56] <Peace->  /path/.filebin
[16:57] <Peace->  /path/./filebin
[16:57] <genii-around> bug_: When there is a .deb package available, it is always the first choice
[16:58] <bug_> ok tried the chmod and i get the Nosuch File or Dircetory i'll try the deb file, can it run from ksoftware manger
[16:58] <BluesKaj> sudo ./binfile
[16:58] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mm why sudo
[16:58] <bug_> sorr a bit of a newbiw
[16:58] <BluesKaj> bug make sure the file in /home
[16:58] <BluesKaj> is
[16:58] <bug_> the file is in /home
[16:59] <BluesKaj> Peace-, probly just a habit
[16:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mm dangerous :P
[16:59] <bug_> the file name is AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[16:59] <BluesKaj> I'm the onl;y user so it doesn't really matter
[16:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[16:59] <BluesKaj> not dangerous in my case Peace-
[17:00] <Peace-> bug_: where is the file
[17:00] <Peace-> bug_: give me the path
[17:00] <BluesKaj> ok time for my daily constitution /walk ..bbl
[17:00] <frank_> anyone here who can help me with cairo dock?
[17:00] <Peace-> BluesKaj: bye
[17:00] <Peace-> frank_: cairo :S
[17:00] <bug_> should i ope the file from the download optin as a Gdebi installer or just save the file
[17:00] <Peace-> frank_: there is a plasmoid
[17:01] <Peace-> frank_: look on kde apps
[17:01] <Peace-> frank_: there is a nice plasmoid like cairo
[17:01] <bug_> http://get.adobe.com/air/
[17:01] <bug_> http://get.adobe.com/air/thankyou/?installer=Adobe_AIR_2.5.1_for_Linux_%28.deb%29
[17:01] <bug_> should i ope the file from the download optin as a Gdebi installer or just save the file??
[17:02] <Peace-> bug_: open with gdebi
[17:02] <bug_> ok , took the punt and am doing that
[17:04] <bug_> i hate slow connections
[17:05] <bug_> is there a program that be used as an idnetity cloaker, I am currently in the middle east and can't do my lottery tickets in Australia
[17:10] <bug_> thanks Peace, it seems to be working
[17:12] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to help me get banshee to run?  Won't start... http://pastie.org/1536748
[17:28] <Peace-> JuJuBee: bashee?
[17:28] <Peace-> JuJuBee: ask to #ubuntu
[17:28] <Peace-> JuJuBee: this is kubuntu channel
[17:29] <JuJuBee> I know but I run it in kubuntu and they tell me ask in kubuntu then...
[17:30] <Peace-> JuJuBee: i guess here nobody uses bashee.., kubuntu is a part of ubuntu
[17:30] <Peace-> JuJuBee: anyway ...
[17:31] <Peace-> JuJuBee: seems a bashee bug...
[17:31] <Peace-> JuJuBee: http://www.google.it/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=The+program+'Banshee'+received+an+X+Window+System+error.This+probably+reflects+a+bug+in+the+program.The+error+was+'BadMatch+(invalid+parameter+attributes)'.
[17:31] <FloodBotK3> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <Peace-> FloodBotK3: yes sir xD
[17:33] <JuJuBee> Peace-:  thanks  there is a workaround that seems to work
[18:11] <nlsthzn> hey, I want to use openVPN in Kubuntu (but don't want to touch anything Gnome related)... how do I go about doing that?
[18:18] <genii-around> !info network-manager-openvpn-kde
[18:23] <corinth> Hello room. I just installed Kubuntu, and the sound coming out of my speakers is static-y. Almost as if it were clipping...but it shouldn't be. Help?
[18:23] <Peace-> corinth: hi
[18:23] <Peace-> corinth: system 10.10 ?
[18:23] <corinth> Peace-: Hello there
[18:23] <corinth> 10.10 is the most recent, yes?
[18:23] <corinth> Yes, it's 10.10
[18:24] <Peace-> corinth: pulse is your problem probabilly
[18:24] <nlsthzn> genii-around: Thank you very much!
[18:24] <corinth> How do I fix that, Peace-?
[18:24] <genii-around> nlsthzn: You're welcome
[18:24] <Peace-> corinth:  search this on google nowardev pulse sound problem kubuntu 10.10
[18:24] <nlsthzn> genii-around: how you get your info... experience or google (cause I tried)
[18:24] <Peace-> corinth: should give you my blog
[18:25] <Peace-> corinth: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/audio-problem-with-kubuntu-10-10/
[18:25] <genii-around> nlsthzn: By: apt-cache search openvpn | grep kde
[18:26] <nlsthzn> genii-around: even more valuable... thank you times 1000
[18:34] <rtdos> how can i find out how much memory my system has?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> rtdos, free in the terminal
[18:37] <gerlosgm> rtdos: or you can use KInfoCenter or ksysguard, if installed
[18:37] <rtdos> thanks.
[18:50] <radi5__> hi, I need some help with Kontact. As far as I remember Kontact was continued after closing it wiht the X button
[18:50] <radi5__> after the last upgrade it is closed completly
[18:51] <radi5__> so new mails are not recogniced (of course)
[18:51] <radi5__> where can I configure the old behavior?
[18:51] <radi5__> Cold anybody help me please?
[18:56] <areichman> radi5__: go to Configure Kontact, Mail > Appearance, System Tray
[18:56] <areichman> and enable the system tray icon
[18:57] <areichman> set it to always show icon and it should do what you want
[18:57] <radi5__> perfect
[18:57] <radi5__> thanks a lot
[19:03] <areichman> welcome
[19:24] <FloridaGuy> how do i find out my ip adress
[19:25] <DarthFrog> FloridaGuy: use the "ifconfig" command.
[19:25] <FloridaGuy> DarthFrog: thanks
[19:27] <nathanael> hi
[19:27] <nathanael> how do i register a nick on irc?
[19:27] <the_O> hello
[19:27] <nathanael> before i start?
[19:28] <the_O> type /ns REGISTER <password> <email>
[19:28] <the_O> so does anyone here know of a good irc client for linux other then xchat
[19:30] <the_O> is anyone in here
[19:31] <DarthFrog> the_O: I like konversation.
[19:31] <areichman> the_O: I'm using quassel
[19:31] <DarthFrog> Others use quassel.
[19:31] <NathanaelG> konversation, over here
[19:32] <NathanaelG> but first time since very long
[19:32] <NathanaelG> anyone knows a graphical boot frontend for 10.10 and how to install it?
[19:33] <friese> hi
[19:33] <DarthFrog> !grub | NathanaelG
[19:33] <the_O> yeah I tried those but need script support
[19:34] <NathanaelG> hm?
[19:34] <NathanaelG> i use 10.10 so still grub?
[19:34] <the_O> I need to have two clients running with different scripts
[19:34] <NathanaelG> well I do think that it was after a windows installation, will try
[19:34] <DarthFrog> NathanaelG: No, grub2.
[19:35] <NathanaelG> now it starts with bright blue and kubuntu as ascii art
[19:35] <DarthFrog> !grub 2| NathanaelG
[19:35] <NathanaelG> ok
[19:37] <NathanaelG> but ehm
[19:38] <NathanaelG> but grub is working, only no graphic
[19:38] <woodzy> what is a good text mode file manager? (one that color codes files based on type / extension) ?
[19:39] <NathanaelG> ls ;-)
[19:39] <genii-around> Yup
[19:39] <NathanaelG> lol
[19:39] <NathanaelG> sry, was a joke
[19:40] <genii-around> woodzy: ls -l --color                  for instance :)
[19:40] <DarthFrog> NathanaelG: In /etc/grub.d/00header, there is a varialble GRUB_GFXMODE that you might want to play around with.
[19:40] <NathanaelG> i once used sthg like midnight commander @ woodzy .. like etherneties past
[19:41] <NathanaelG> thx
[19:41] <woodzy> i'll check it out.
[19:41] <NathanaelG> at tarthfrog
[19:41] <woodzy> ah, gnu mc
[19:43] <woodzy> wait. there is actually a menstrual calendar in the repositories? WOW! Maybe I can get my wife to use Linux after all!!! :-P
[19:43] <woodzy> ...sorry couldn't resist.
[19:44] <NathanaelG> hm
[19:45] <NathanaelG> what would i have to change there while having a screen with full hd resolution?
[19:54] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I have a screen which does 1920x1080 and put in /etc/default/grub GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080             it works fine
[19:54] <NathanaelG> thx
[19:54] <NathanaelG> propritary nvidia drivers no prob?
[19:54] <genii-around> NathanaelG: You have to do the update-grub
[19:55] <NathanaelG> ok so step one would be:
[19:56] <genii-around> work, back soon
[19:57] <genii-around> NathanaelG: Before the nvidia drivers broke it worked fine for me then, now that I'm temporarily on the nouveau drivers it also works fine
[19:59] <genii-around> NathanaelG: eg: echo "GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub
[20:01] <NathanaelG> ok
[20:01] <NathanaelG> press thumbs, booting through
[20:01] <Loresan> hi hi... is Peace- online by any chance?
[20:03] <Peace-> Loresan: ?
[20:03] <Loresan> hi Peace- sorry to disturb you but could you send me that link again about setting dolphin up and the programs list?
[20:04] <Peace-> Loresan: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-want-to-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/
[20:04] <NathanaelG> hi again
[20:04] <Peace-> Loresan: save the link...
[20:04] <Peace-> Loresan: there are *a lots* of stuff in my blog
[20:04] <NathanaelG> My grub splash is still a bright blue and kubuntu 10.10 in Ascii
[20:05] <NathanaelG> the five dots are also in ascii
[20:05] <NathanaelG> only thing that improved now is that the selection screen for my os's is in full hd
[20:05] <NathanaelG> Extreme eye-candy, ascii on blacck in full hd!!!
[20:05] <NathanaelG> ;-)
[20:06] <Loresan> thank you very much Peace
[20:06] <Loresan> brb
[20:06] <Peace-> Loresan: kindom?
[20:06] <Peace-> Loresan: i mean uk
[20:06] <NathanaelG> @
[20:06] <Loresan> yes
[20:06] <NathanaelG> genii-around: well i don't think i can co to nouveau
[20:07] <NathanaelG> I m playing starcraft2 over crossover-office
[20:07] <NathanaelG> or is nouveau good enough for that?
[20:07] <Peace-> Loresan: well i am not an english guy so...don't die reading the blog (grammar)
[20:07] <Loresan> i'm sure i will be fine :)
[20:08] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I don't know. I don't do anything that would really stress-test it. But my compositing works great in regular usage
[20:08] <NathanaelG> hm
[20:08] <NathanaelG> so how to change back? just disabling the proprietary driver, genii-around
[20:08] <NathanaelG> ?
[20:09]  * Peace- rebooting to lucid
[20:09] <jschall> i can't see the samba shares on my desktop from my netbook... dolphin can't find anything.
[20:10] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I usually uninstall or reinstall the nvidia-current when I need to toggle between nouveau and nvidia
[20:11] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I should note I'm currently using 11.04 where nvidia is horribly broken though
[20:12] <NathanaelG> hm
[20:12] <NathanaelG> 11.04 is due for end of month, not?
[20:13] <genii-around> NathanaelG: It's usually the very last day of the month it is named for
[20:13] <genii-around> So likely April 30
[20:13] <genii-around> Numbered after, rather, not named after :)
[20:14] <NathanaelG> oh
[20:14] <kusa> Hi all
[20:14] <NathanaelG> thx, didnt know that
[20:15] <NathanaelG> booting through
[20:19] <NathanaelG> well
[20:19] <NathanaelG> it worked, genii-around
[20:19] <NathanaelG> htx a lot
[20:19] <genii-around> NathanaelG: You're welcome
[20:19] <NathanaelG> is there a possibility for a kubuntu-skinned os selection screen as well?
[20:20] <genii-around> Possibly, but i haven't looked into that much
[20:20] <NathanaelG> btw, sry for getting on your nerves
[20:20] <NathanaelG> thx
[20:20] <NathanaelG> well, it works for what i want now
[20:20] <NathanaelG> you all on kde 4.6?
[20:20] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I find the fonts in cli at that res to be eye-wrenching though
[20:21] <NathanaelG> lol, no prob for me
[20:21] <NathanaelG> 1 know i need the first or the last
[20:22] <NathanaelG> will have to suppress the messages for the embedded partitions sometime
[20:22] <NathanaelG> but that s easy
[21:12] <NathanaelG> hi all
[21:12] <NathanaelG> hi genii-around
[21:12] <NathanaelG> had to switch back to proprietary driver, as many effects like window stack didn't work
[21:12] <NathanaelG> so now i have a text boot again
[21:13] <NathanaelG> any hints on how to get the graphical bootsplash back?
[21:13] <NathanaelG> with the nvidia drivers?
[21:17] <genii-around> NathanaelG: Apologies, but my work is too busy right now for me to help
[21:21] <NathanaelG> genii-around:  no probs, thx anyway, cu later
[21:21] <NathanaelG> and off
[21:40] <mandla> Hey guys, where can i find student data sample spreadsheet files, im working on an Academic Records Management System, so i need to test it with sample data.
[21:42] <mandla> Hello?
[21:48] <Snowhog> mandla: Do you have a question? Just ask it.
[21:48] <kurumin> oi
[21:48] <mandla> Snowhog: Hey guys, where can i find student data sample spreadsheet files, im working on an Academic Records Management System, so i need to test it with sample data
[21:49] <Snowhog> mandla: What Kubuntu application are you using?
[21:50] <mandla> Snowhog: Im using a localhost server so i need sample data to test the module of the System that i recently completed.
[21:51] <Snowhog> mandla: That still doesn't answer the question: What application (software) are you using/running?
[21:52] <mandla> Snowhog: What exactly do yo mean? I need a spreadsheet file with student records. openOffice calc
[21:53] <genii-around> mandla: That is not a Kubuntu support issue :)
[21:53] <Snowhog> mandla: OpenOffice Calc. That's the answer to the question.
[21:53] <mandla> genii-around: I know, i just thought you might know smwhere i can download the file.
[21:54] <genii-around> eg: Your openOffice Calc is not experiencing a problem, you just need some test database to look at
[21:54] <genii-around> mandla: Is it http://www.vastech.co.ug/products/academic-registrar-information-management-systems-arims that is the ARMS thing you are using? Just curious
[21:56] <mandla> genii-around: Yah something like that but better.
[21:57] <genii-around> mandla: Because I would ask the guys who make your version to point you at some test data, etc
[21:58] <BluesKaj> how does one alias one's password in ~/.bashrc,  so that it works after 'password for user : ' prompt in the cli ?
[21:58] <mandla> genii-around: Thats exactly what i need. I just want a spreadsheet file with students details.
[22:00] <mandla> genii-around: There should be sample data smwhere on the net. I really need it. Friday um presenting this system.
[22:11] <daltin> hello
[22:12] <Snowhog> daltin: Please just ask your question.
[22:24] <SDemonUA> Вива кубунтеры!!! Ж)
[22:24] <BluesKaj> !ru
[22:25] <SDemonUA> Viva kubunters!
[23:57] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I need some help, Chromium completely locked up, killall chromium && killall chromium-browser does nothing, launching firefox via commnadline also does nothing
[23:57] <shane4ubuntu> no errors, nothing
[23:58] <shane4ubuntu> wow, nobody around?