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Homefix this message ic comming from ubuntu installed on my EVO04:37
jhobbstsk tsk, irc'ing as root!04:57
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sveinseHi. Regarding the alsa profile issue this weekend: Our kernel developer sais that the extra alsa driver text fields are ubuntu specific. Is that correct?08:40
sveinseAre there any rules/practices regarding numbering of udev rules? I need to insert a rule for mounting a USB memory device, and I'm trying to figure its number08:53
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ograrsalveti, your new phone you got in dallas, was that a galaxy 9000 ?14:08
rsalvetiogra: nexus s14:08
ograah, k14:08
hrwwhich is nearly same ;D14:13
hrwhw wise14:13
* hrw has nexus s14:13
ograright, i thought so14:18
ogra(my provider wants me to pick a new phone for free .... its that time of the year again :) )14:18
sveinseoptimus perhaps ?14:26
ograoptimus ?14:26
sveinsehttp://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/14:28
ograah14:28
ograto late, i just picked the samsung14:29
* rsalveti lunch14:35
hrwogra: galaxys?14:51
ograhrw, yep14:57
hrwI wonder when TI will start making pandas bootable directly from usb...14:59
hrwI am going to be sdless...14:59
hrwmy last card - 8GB microsd15:00
ograbuy new ones ... and expense them15:02
hrwwill have to15:03
hrwuf. this card works15:12
reb`I bought a Pogoplug and installed Arch Linux from the PlugApps web site.  Is this the best option for this ARM box?  I run Ubuntu at home and at work, but it appears that the latest Ubuntu does not support PogoPlug aka SheevaPlug.15:27
LetoThe2ndreb`: pogoplug is the marvell kirkwood platform, right?15:30
reb`Something like that ... first generation Marvell architecture ... same as original SheevaPlug.15:31
LetoThe2ndreb`: then it's supported until ubuntu 9.04, ut not longer.15:31
reb`Are there any independent sources for more recent Ubuntu releases compiled for that platform?15:33
LetoThe2ndnone that i knew.15:33
reb`I'm not unhappy about Arch Linux, it's just that package management is different, system init files are different, etc.15:33
reb`LetoThe2nd: Thanks!15:37
hrwreb`: use Debian or Arch15:40
rsalvetihrw: I believe you can already boot over usb15:46
rsalvetiI remember having someone discussing this at the pandaboard m-l15:46
hrwrsalveti: without sdcard at all?15:46
rsalvetiusb = micro usb15:46
prpplaguersalveti: there are about a half dozen utils for usb booting15:47
rsalvetiafaik, yes15:47
prpplaguersalveti: including a new usbboot tool and nishant's u-boot utils15:47
rsalvetiyup, that's it15:47
rsalvetithanks :-)15:47
rsalvetihrw: have fun15:47
hrwprpplague: but how does it work? omap4rom will read xloader from ehci->thumbdrive or expect tool talking to it by usbdevice port?15:51
prpplaguehrw: rom code inits the OTG as a host port, then sends a specific enumeration id15:52
prpplaguehrw: the client software on the host pc reads that and begins an upload of code15:52
rsalvetilike what we had for omap315:53
prpplaguehrw: once the code upload is complete, the rom code jumps to the start address of the code15:53
prpplaguersalveti: exactly like omap315:53
hrwso no use for me. I expect panda to not depend on other devices for boot15:53
prpplaguehrw: what is your use case?16:03
hrwprpplague: during last week I throw 3 sd cards into trashcan. wondering about other ways to boot panda16:06
prpplaguehrw: ?? what were wrong with the cards?16:06
prpplaguehrw: why wouldn't the usboot stuff work for you?16:07
hrwprpplague: random filesystem failures all over the card16:07
hrwprpplague: or cards which magically changed their capacity from 4GB to 016:07
hrwprpplague: panda is far from other machines16:07
reb`hrw: Is Debian closer to Ubuntu as far as package management and other system stuff is concerned?16:07
hrwreb`: no. its reverse direction16:08
hrwreb`: Ubuntu is derivative of Debian16:08
reb`ok16:08
reb`So there's a full Debian distribution for ARM Kirkwood?16:08
hrwyes16:08
hrwreb`: you can officially install debian on (some set of) kirkwood based devices16:09
prpplaguehrw: interesting, this is the first report i have had of that16:11
prpplaguehrw: well, what i would do is find a small sd card, and place just x-load and u-boot on the boot partition16:12
prpplaguehrw: then use either network booting for kernel and root, or use a usb thumb drive16:12
reb`Great!  I've had a few problems with Arch Linux / PlugApps -- missing dependency after installing a package, inability to find needed linux-api-headers package, etc.16:13
reb`It's probably my inexperience ... I'd be more comfortable with Debian/Ubuntu.16:14
reb`hrw: thanks!16:14
prpplaguehrw: you could program up an avr or msp to boot the panda16:15
* prpplague has done that before16:15
hrwprpplague: normally I have xload/uboot/kernel/initrd on sd + rootfs on usbhdd. but it is hard to test linaro images that way ;d16:16
prpplaguehrw: ahh16:17
prpplaguehrw: wish you had saved the sd cards, i would have liked to do a post mortem on the cards16:17
hrwAngstrom 2010.7-test-20101105 omap4430-panda ttyO216:17
hrwprpplague: send me your address?16:17
hrwok, kernel compilation under angstrom started. under ubuntu it was enough to get buserror/segfault with mem=1G16:24
sebjanhrw: you don't have these crashes with angstrom?16:32
hrwsebjan: during fosdem I was told that it was not reproduced there16:33
sebjanhrw: hum, ok. If you have some feedback on this issue, here is where we track it: bug 63322716:36
ubot2Launchpad bug 633227 in linux-ti-omap4 "instabilities with highmem activated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63322716:36
prpplaguehrw: and avr boot dongle would be cute for the panda16:36
hrwsebjan: I know about that bug16:37
hrwdrivers/media/IR/ir-functions.c:111: internal compiler error: in attach_dep_link, at sched-deps.c:22716:39
hrwPlease submit a full bug report,16:39
hrwha!16:39
rsalveti:-)16:39
ograjust dont compile through infrared :P16:39
hrwmake -j44 is nice stress test16:40
armin76hrw: fyi i also reproduce them with gentoo16:41
armin76hrw: ah, nice, you reproduced it :D16:41
armin76thing is all the ppl that have said they don't get such failures turns out they don't compile native :/16:42
sveinseHow long will pastes in ubuntu pastebin linger around?18:04
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TheUnirsalveti: have you had a chance to look into xbmc?22:13
TheUnii'm getting ready to overhaul our packaging, would be great to have some guru help :)22:13
rsalvetiTheUni: not yet, last week was busy with alpha-2, planning to put my hand on it this week22:13
TheUniok22:13
rsalvetiTheUni: sure, probably will start working on this bp tomorrow22:14
TheUnibp?22:14
rsalvetiblueprint22:14
TheUniah, roger. bp means backport for me lately :)22:14
rsalvetihaha, true22:15
TheUnirsalveti: one of the big issues will be bundling ffmpeg22:16
rsalvetiTheUni: hm, ok22:17
TheUniwe bundle many libs, which we've been working on moving out. but we're tied pretty closely with ffmpeg22:17
TheUnithough as we discussed, we're open to adding gstreamer support22:17
rsalvetiyeah, that would help us a lot22:18

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