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| Homefix | this message ic comming from ubuntu installed on my EVO | 04:37 |
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| jhobbs | tsk tsk, irc'ing as root! | 04:57 |
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| sveinse | Hi. Regarding the alsa profile issue this weekend: Our kernel developer sais that the extra alsa driver text fields are ubuntu specific. Is that correct? | 08:40 |
| sveinse | Are there any rules/practices regarding numbering of udev rules? I need to insert a rule for mounting a USB memory device, and I'm trying to figure its number | 08:53 |
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| ogra | rsalveti, your new phone you got in dallas, was that a galaxy 9000 ? | 14:08 |
| rsalveti | ogra: nexus s | 14:08 |
| ogra | ah, k | 14:08 |
| hrw | which is nearly same ;D | 14:13 |
| hrw | hw wise | 14:13 |
| * hrw has nexus s | 14:13 | |
| ogra | right, i thought so | 14:18 |
| ogra | (my provider wants me to pick a new phone for free .... its that time of the year again :) ) | 14:18 |
| sveinse | optimus perhaps ? | 14:26 |
| ogra | optimus ? | 14:26 |
| sveinse | http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/ | 14:28 |
| ogra | ah | 14:28 |
| ogra | to late, i just picked the samsung | 14:29 |
| * rsalveti lunch | 14:35 | |
| hrw | ogra: galaxys? | 14:51 |
| ogra | hrw, yep | 14:57 |
| hrw | I wonder when TI will start making pandas bootable directly from usb... | 14:59 |
| hrw | I am going to be sdless... | 14:59 |
| hrw | my last card - 8GB microsd | 15:00 |
| ogra | buy new ones ... and expense them | 15:02 |
| hrw | will have to | 15:03 |
| hrw | uf. this card works | 15:12 |
| reb` | I bought a Pogoplug and installed Arch Linux from the PlugApps web site. Is this the best option for this ARM box? I run Ubuntu at home and at work, but it appears that the latest Ubuntu does not support PogoPlug aka SheevaPlug. | 15:27 |
| LetoThe2nd | reb`: pogoplug is the marvell kirkwood platform, right? | 15:30 |
| reb` | Something like that ... first generation Marvell architecture ... same as original SheevaPlug. | 15:31 |
| LetoThe2nd | reb`: then it's supported until ubuntu 9.04, ut not longer. | 15:31 |
| reb` | Are there any independent sources for more recent Ubuntu releases compiled for that platform? | 15:33 |
| LetoThe2nd | none that i knew. | 15:33 |
| reb` | I'm not unhappy about Arch Linux, it's just that package management is different, system init files are different, etc. | 15:33 |
| reb` | LetoThe2nd: Thanks! | 15:37 |
| hrw | reb`: use Debian or Arch | 15:40 |
| rsalveti | hrw: I believe you can already boot over usb | 15:46 |
| rsalveti | I remember having someone discussing this at the pandaboard m-l | 15:46 |
| hrw | rsalveti: without sdcard at all? | 15:46 |
| rsalveti | usb = micro usb | 15:46 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: there are about a half dozen utils for usb booting | 15:47 |
| rsalveti | afaik, yes | 15:47 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: including a new usbboot tool and nishant's u-boot utils | 15:47 |
| rsalveti | yup, that's it | 15:47 |
| rsalveti | thanks :-) | 15:47 |
| rsalveti | hrw: have fun | 15:47 |
| hrw | prpplague: but how does it work? omap4rom will read xloader from ehci->thumbdrive or expect tool talking to it by usbdevice port? | 15:51 |
| prpplague | hrw: rom code inits the OTG as a host port, then sends a specific enumeration id | 15:52 |
| prpplague | hrw: the client software on the host pc reads that and begins an upload of code | 15:52 |
| rsalveti | like what we had for omap3 | 15:53 |
| prpplague | hrw: once the code upload is complete, the rom code jumps to the start address of the code | 15:53 |
| prpplague | rsalveti: exactly like omap3 | 15:53 |
| hrw | so no use for me. I expect panda to not depend on other devices for boot | 15:53 |
| prpplague | hrw: what is your use case? | 16:03 |
| hrw | prpplague: during last week I throw 3 sd cards into trashcan. wondering about other ways to boot panda | 16:06 |
| prpplague | hrw: ?? what were wrong with the cards? | 16:06 |
| prpplague | hrw: why wouldn't the usboot stuff work for you? | 16:07 |
| hrw | prpplague: random filesystem failures all over the card | 16:07 |
| hrw | prpplague: or cards which magically changed their capacity from 4GB to 0 | 16:07 |
| hrw | prpplague: panda is far from other machines | 16:07 |
| reb` | hrw: Is Debian closer to Ubuntu as far as package management and other system stuff is concerned? | 16:07 |
| hrw | reb`: no. its reverse direction | 16:08 |
| hrw | reb`: Ubuntu is derivative of Debian | 16:08 |
| reb` | ok | 16:08 |
| reb` | So there's a full Debian distribution for ARM Kirkwood? | 16:08 |
| hrw | yes | 16:08 |
| hrw | reb`: you can officially install debian on (some set of) kirkwood based devices | 16:09 |
| prpplague | hrw: interesting, this is the first report i have had of that | 16:11 |
| prpplague | hrw: well, what i would do is find a small sd card, and place just x-load and u-boot on the boot partition | 16:12 |
| prpplague | hrw: then use either network booting for kernel and root, or use a usb thumb drive | 16:12 |
| reb` | Great! I've had a few problems with Arch Linux / PlugApps -- missing dependency after installing a package, inability to find needed linux-api-headers package, etc. | 16:13 |
| reb` | It's probably my inexperience ... I'd be more comfortable with Debian/Ubuntu. | 16:14 |
| reb` | hrw: thanks! | 16:14 |
| prpplague | hrw: you could program up an avr or msp to boot the panda | 16:15 |
| * prpplague has done that before | 16:15 | |
| hrw | prpplague: normally I have xload/uboot/kernel/initrd on sd + rootfs on usbhdd. but it is hard to test linaro images that way ;d | 16:16 |
| prpplague | hrw: ahh | 16:17 |
| prpplague | hrw: wish you had saved the sd cards, i would have liked to do a post mortem on the cards | 16:17 |
| hrw | Angstrom 2010.7-test-20101105 omap4430-panda ttyO2 | 16:17 |
| hrw | prpplague: send me your address? | 16:17 |
| hrw | ok, kernel compilation under angstrom started. under ubuntu it was enough to get buserror/segfault with mem=1G | 16:24 |
| sebjan | hrw: you don't have these crashes with angstrom? | 16:32 |
| hrw | sebjan: during fosdem I was told that it was not reproduced there | 16:33 |
| sebjan | hrw: hum, ok. If you have some feedback on this issue, here is where we track it: bug 633227 | 16:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 633227 in linux-ti-omap4 "instabilities with highmem activated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633227 | 16:36 |
| prpplague | hrw: and avr boot dongle would be cute for the panda | 16:36 |
| hrw | sebjan: I know about that bug | 16:37 |
| hrw | drivers/media/IR/ir-functions.c:111: internal compiler error: in attach_dep_link, at sched-deps.c:227 | 16:39 |
| hrw | Please submit a full bug report, | 16:39 |
| hrw | ha! | 16:39 |
| rsalveti | :-) | 16:39 |
| ogra | just dont compile through infrared :P | 16:39 |
| hrw | make -j44 is nice stress test | 16:40 |
| armin76 | hrw: fyi i also reproduce them with gentoo | 16:41 |
| armin76 | hrw: ah, nice, you reproduced it :D | 16:41 |
| armin76 | thing is all the ppl that have said they don't get such failures turns out they don't compile native :/ | 16:42 |
| sveinse | How long will pastes in ubuntu pastebin linger around? | 18:04 |
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| TheUni | rsalveti: have you had a chance to look into xbmc? | 22:13 |
| TheUni | i'm getting ready to overhaul our packaging, would be great to have some guru help :) | 22:13 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: not yet, last week was busy with alpha-2, planning to put my hand on it this week | 22:13 |
| TheUni | ok | 22:13 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: sure, probably will start working on this bp tomorrow | 22:14 |
| TheUni | bp? | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | blueprint | 22:14 |
| TheUni | ah, roger. bp means backport for me lately :) | 22:14 |
| rsalveti | haha, true | 22:15 |
| TheUni | rsalveti: one of the big issues will be bundling ffmpeg | 22:16 |
| rsalveti | TheUni: hm, ok | 22:17 |
| TheUni | we bundle many libs, which we've been working on moving out. but we're tied pretty closely with ffmpeg | 22:17 |
| TheUni | though as we discussed, we're open to adding gstreamer support | 22:17 |
| rsalveti | yeah, that would help us a lot | 22:18 |
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