=== davidm_ is now known as Guest27591 [04:37] this message ic comming from ubuntu installed on my EVO [04:57] tsk tsk, irc'ing as root! === davidm_ is now known as Guest18305 === ApOgEE__ is now known as ApOgEE [08:40] Hi. Regarding the alsa profile issue this weekend: Our kernel developer sais that the extra alsa driver text fields are ubuntu specific. Is that correct? [08:53] Are there any rules/practices regarding numbering of udev rules? I need to insert a rule for mounting a USB memory device, and I'm trying to figure its number === marvin24_ is now known as marvin24 === Guest14562 is now known as ogra === davidm_ is now known as Guest99521 [14:08] rsalveti, your new phone you got in dallas, was that a galaxy 9000 ? [14:08] ogra: nexus s [14:08] ah, k [14:13] which is nearly same ;D [14:13] hw wise [14:13] * hrw has nexus s [14:18] right, i thought so [14:18] (my provider wants me to pick a new phone for free .... its that time of the year again :) ) [14:26] optimus perhaps ? [14:26] optimus ? [14:28] http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/15/lg-optimus-2x-first-dual-core-smartphone-launches-with-android/ [14:28] ah [14:29] to late, i just picked the samsung [14:35] * rsalveti lunch [14:51] ogra: galaxys? [14:57] hrw, yep [14:59] I wonder when TI will start making pandas bootable directly from usb... [14:59] I am going to be sdless... [15:00] my last card - 8GB microsd [15:02] buy new ones ... and expense them [15:03] will have to [15:12] uf. this card works [15:27] I bought a Pogoplug and installed Arch Linux from the PlugApps web site. Is this the best option for this ARM box? I run Ubuntu at home and at work, but it appears that the latest Ubuntu does not support PogoPlug aka SheevaPlug. [15:30] reb`: pogoplug is the marvell kirkwood platform, right? [15:31] Something like that ... first generation Marvell architecture ... same as original SheevaPlug. [15:31] reb`: then it's supported until ubuntu 9.04, ut not longer. [15:33] Are there any independent sources for more recent Ubuntu releases compiled for that platform? [15:33] none that i knew. [15:33] I'm not unhappy about Arch Linux, it's just that package management is different, system init files are different, etc. [15:37] LetoThe2nd: Thanks! [15:40] reb`: use Debian or Arch [15:46] hrw: I believe you can already boot over usb [15:46] I remember having someone discussing this at the pandaboard m-l [15:46] rsalveti: without sdcard at all? [15:46] usb = micro usb [15:47] rsalveti: there are about a half dozen utils for usb booting [15:47] afaik, yes [15:47] rsalveti: including a new usbboot tool and nishant's u-boot utils [15:47] yup, that's it [15:47] thanks :-) [15:47] hrw: have fun [15:51] prpplague: but how does it work? omap4rom will read xloader from ehci->thumbdrive or expect tool talking to it by usbdevice port? [15:52] hrw: rom code inits the OTG as a host port, then sends a specific enumeration id [15:52] hrw: the client software on the host pc reads that and begins an upload of code [15:53] like what we had for omap3 [15:53] hrw: once the code upload is complete, the rom code jumps to the start address of the code [15:53] rsalveti: exactly like omap3 [15:53] so no use for me. I expect panda to not depend on other devices for boot [16:03] hrw: what is your use case? [16:06] prpplague: during last week I throw 3 sd cards into trashcan. wondering about other ways to boot panda [16:06] hrw: ?? what were wrong with the cards? [16:07] hrw: why wouldn't the usboot stuff work for you? [16:07] prpplague: random filesystem failures all over the card [16:07] prpplague: or cards which magically changed their capacity from 4GB to 0 [16:07] prpplague: panda is far from other machines [16:07] hrw: Is Debian closer to Ubuntu as far as package management and other system stuff is concerned? [16:08] reb`: no. its reverse direction [16:08] reb`: Ubuntu is derivative of Debian [16:08] ok [16:08] So there's a full Debian distribution for ARM Kirkwood? [16:08] yes [16:09] reb`: you can officially install debian on (some set of) kirkwood based devices [16:11] hrw: interesting, this is the first report i have had of that [16:12] hrw: well, what i would do is find a small sd card, and place just x-load and u-boot on the boot partition [16:12] hrw: then use either network booting for kernel and root, or use a usb thumb drive [16:13] Great! I've had a few problems with Arch Linux / PlugApps -- missing dependency after installing a package, inability to find needed linux-api-headers package, etc. [16:14] It's probably my inexperience ... I'd be more comfortable with Debian/Ubuntu. [16:14] hrw: thanks! [16:15] hrw: you could program up an avr or msp to boot the panda [16:15] * prpplague has done that before [16:16] prpplague: normally I have xload/uboot/kernel/initrd on sd + rootfs on usbhdd. but it is hard to test linaro images that way ;d [16:17] hrw: ahh [16:17] hrw: wish you had saved the sd cards, i would have liked to do a post mortem on the cards [16:17] Angstrom 2010.7-test-20101105 omap4430-panda ttyO2 [16:17] prpplague: send me your address? [16:24] ok, kernel compilation under angstrom started. under ubuntu it was enough to get buserror/segfault with mem=1G [16:32] hrw: you don't have these crashes with angstrom? [16:33] sebjan: during fosdem I was told that it was not reproduced there [16:36] hrw: hum, ok. If you have some feedback on this issue, here is where we track it: bug 633227 [16:36] Launchpad bug 633227 in linux-ti-omap4 "instabilities with highmem activated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633227 [16:36] hrw: and avr boot dongle would be cute for the panda [16:37] sebjan: I know about that bug [16:39] drivers/media/IR/ir-functions.c:111: internal compiler error: in attach_dep_link, at sched-deps.c:227 [16:39] Please submit a full bug report, [16:39] ha! [16:39] :-) [16:39] just dont compile through infrared :P [16:40] make -j44 is nice stress test [16:41] hrw: fyi i also reproduce them with gentoo [16:41] hrw: ah, nice, you reproduced it :D [16:42] thing is all the ppl that have said they don't get such failures turns out they don't compile native :/ [18:04] How long will pastes in ubuntu pastebin linger around? === sbambrough is now known as scottb-lunch === scottb-lunch is now known as sbambrough-lunch === davidm_ is now known as Guest95278 === sbambrough-lunch is now known as scottb === scottb is now known as sbambrough === davidm is now known as dm_afk === fosdemlogger is now known as austrialogger === austrialogger is now known as apachelogger === dm_afk is now known as davidm [22:13] rsalveti: have you had a chance to look into xbmc? [22:13] i'm getting ready to overhaul our packaging, would be great to have some guru help :) [22:13] TheUni: not yet, last week was busy with alpha-2, planning to put my hand on it this week [22:13] ok [22:14] TheUni: sure, probably will start working on this bp tomorrow [22:14] bp? [22:14] blueprint [22:14] ah, roger. bp means backport for me lately :) [22:15] haha, true [22:16] rsalveti: one of the big issues will be bundling ffmpeg [22:17] TheUni: hm, ok [22:17] we bundle many libs, which we've been working on moving out. but we're tied pretty closely with ffmpeg [22:17] though as we discussed, we're open to adding gstreamer support [22:18] yeah, that would help us a lot