[14:27] <coz_> good day all
[14:43] <darkmatter> heya coz_
[14:44] <coz_> darkmatter,  hey guy
[14:44] <coz_> darkmatter,  I found a sit to upload audio like flickr for graphics
[14:44] <darkmatter> nice
[14:44] <coz_> darkmatter,  I am uploading now  will link when finished
[14:44]  * darkmatter is currently hacking together firefox theme :O
[14:44] <darkmatter> kk
[14:45] <coz_> oo firefox theme:)  although I really enjoy that one you showd me
[14:46] <darkmatter> coz_: http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/456/screenshotfbj.png <-- modding the elementary firefox to be more native, less crap. nearly all the icons are coming from stock, minus just a few
[14:47] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh nice... I am getting tired of elementary stuff though,,way to much like a mac  :(
[14:48] <darkmatter> coz_: yeah. bit I'm just doing it for fun. it's been almost a year since I themed ffx. I'd rather brush the rust out with hackerage than real work :P
[14:50] <coz_> darkmatter,  understood but I didnt mean to discourage... many love elementary stuff as I did at first
[14:51] <darkmatter> cozthe overall project is ok. but it is decidely mac-ish. the whole "fresh ideas" thing isn't very fresh :P)
[14:51] <coz_> darkmatter,  mac look is somewhat boring to me...especially now that someone said to me " mac did it right,,why play with anything else"
[14:51] <darkmatter> lol
[14:54] <coz_> darkmatter,  I did a double face palm and a "home alone"  screem when they said that to me :)
[14:54] <darkmatter> coz_: the problem I have isnt so much the 'look'. that can be changed. I just don't like the cloning of mac apps. the only really appealing thing about eleentary (imho) is the lack of menubars. because we all know how I hate such things, global or otherwise :P
[14:55] <coz_> darkmatter,  i agree,, I actually find it a bit better than mac's appearance
[14:55] <darkmatter> not saying they're not doing a good job. I give them credit for all the code being committed. just to much mac :P
[14:58] <darkmatter> coz_: buy I do like "some" of it a lot, like the friendly error page being worked on for midori. kinda what I was talking about years ago regarding less error, more love, ala BeOS. quite diff, but same vein
[14:59] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah i know DanRabbit and the guys are doing some fine work for sure
[15:01] <darkmatter> coz_: things like the error page http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/screenshots/nix/?order=5&offset=24#/d38wqvd
[15:01] <coz_> nice  :)
[15:01] <darkmatter> because I've talked about shit like that for/// ummm/// lost track of how many years :P
[15:01] <coz_> :)  yes I am well aware :)
[15:02] <coz_> ok you guys have my flicker   http://www.flickr.com/photos/57304627@N04/
[15:02] <coz_> here is my soundcloud    http://soundcloud.com/cozziemoto
[15:03] <darkmatter> has "goofy" wording that could be less 'cool kid' crap, but the lack of text wall and actual choices beyong shreaking like a banshee woirks
[15:03] <darkmatter> k. looking in a sec. need coffee :P
[15:03] <coz_> there are 3 pages... mm I must have been up all night :)
[15:04] <coz_> eww  the transcoding they do there is not that great   damn damn damn
[17:07] <thorwil> oh boy, the Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork thread is so full of naivety, i don't even know where to start
[17:07]  * thorwil deletes thread and ponders unsubscribing once again
[18:46] <doctormo> thorwil: morning
[18:46] <thorwil> morning doctormo
[18:47] <doctormo> thorwil: can I get your thoughts on the ideas in this wallpaper http://imagebin.org/136621 (not the execution, I have more work to do)
[18:51] <thorwil> hmmm
[18:52] <thorwil> doctormo: is that a mother happy to see the father coming from the other side?
[18:53] <thorwil> doctormo: it looks pretty well balanced to me
[18:56] <thorwil> doctormo: the far distance is maybe a bit dark. might be ok if you assume the sun is in the back of the viewer
[19:01] <doctormo> thorwil: Thanks :-) they also wanted a plain version, I'm still playing with it all http://imagebin.org/136624
[19:04] <thorwil> doctormo: stream needs to be brighter in front
[19:04] <thorwil> who are 'they'?
[19:04] <doctormo> Edubuntu, trying to make a concept they'll be happy with.
[19:05] <doctormo> Since I think they've been disapointed with the results so far.
[19:05] <thorwil> really? a world map lacking new zealand  sets a high standard!
[19:07] <doctormo> Awe, now you're just being vicious. what's this thread about on the mailing list? I haven't read it.
[19:07] <thorwil> doctormo: then don't do it ;)
[19:09] <thorwil> it's about how almost complete ignorance of the visual identity somehow allows to create artwork that can be used over a long time. and which application beats which, with gimp, ps, inkscape, corel draw and illustrator in the ring :}
[19:16] <doctormo> thorwil: I don't think I understand. You're saying that the discussion is about creating DVD box artwork which has no branding?
[19:18] <thorwil> doctormo: it's my point that it is somewhat absurd ... the author expressed that ignoring the ubuntu visual identity would allow long-time reuse of the work. he made it sound like the identity would change every few months ...
[19:19] <doctormo> heh
[19:19] <doctormo> How about every 5 years
[19:19] <doctormo> The author is slightly cookoo when it comes to Ubuntu art anyway. Check out his deviantArt page.
[19:21] <thorwil> isn't much of deviantart slightly cookoo?
[19:31] <doctormo> thorwil: It's based on the innner most parts of people's brains. Squishy.
[19:35] <thorwil> http://identitydesigned.com/royal-mail/
[19:41] <doctormo> thorwil: God the colour is aweful.
[19:44]  * thorwil will have that colour for breakfast and like it!