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virusuyhi all03:26
macointeresting to learn that the gnome people even get rid of theming features though!03:53
macowhoops03:53
macothat was sposed to be in a PM and was gtk engine murrine dropping scrollbar colour settings03:54
highvoltageso if you switched gtk theme you can still change scrollbar colours right?03:57
highvoltageand aren't you supposed to be american? :)03:57
macohighvoltage: just because i was born here doesn't mean i have to spell like a heathen04:07
macoexcept "tire," because "tyre" just looks silly04:07
macohighvoltage: i said "lorry" when talking to an english guy the other day and the americans standing next to us jumped! it amused me04:08
macoi told them i codeswitch and if there's an english person, they trump on whether to use english-english or american-english04:08
StevenKTyre does not look silly!04:10
StevenKmaco: You fully switch? For example, 'faucet' -> 'tap'; 'diaper' -> 'nappy' ?04:11
macoStevenK: those words tend not to come up so much, but i did ask about all the prams when we went to dinner during UDS04:11
macoall the words where i know they say something else, i swap out04:12
macoStevenK: and btw, we say tap and nappy here too sometimes.  i mean "tap water" is colloquial.  nappy is more used when talking to a child though04:13
macoits considered baby talk04:13
StevenKmaco: Don't tempt me to feel insulted :-)04:13
virusuywhere can i find an application who needs to be  packaged ?04:22
macosearch for needs-packaging on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs04:23
virusuymaco: ok! thanks ! and after create de package what i have to do ?04:25
macovirusuy: upload all the pieces of the source package (listed in the .dsc file, including the .dsc) to the bug04:25
virusuymaco: and somewone will check it , right ?04:25
macovirusuy: oh actually wait no. thats for new releases of old packages. sorry, upload it to revu04:26
maco!revu04:26
ubottuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU04:26
virusuymaco: cool! thanks04:26
crabbytagvirusuy: if a package needs packaging, send it up to Debian as well04:37
crabbytagvirusuy: you should file an ITP up there, if you plan on doing the work anyway :)04:37
crabbytagvirusuy: after it's in top-notch shape, send to debain-mentors and close out the Ubuntu ITP as well as the Debian ITP04:38
crabbytagvirusuy: since we pull from Debian automatically04:38
virusuyand ubuntu does just a "sync" from Debian, am i right ?04:38
crabbytagvirusuy: you are04:38
virusuycrabbytag: cool, actually i cannot find a app to package, can you recommend me one? a easy one :-P04:39
crabbytagvirusuy: check for RFP ( Request for Packaging ) bugs in Debian, I also think pabs ( Paul Wise ) has a list of cool software04:39
crabbytagvirusuy: if I had something nifty I liked, I'd just do it myself ;)04:40
virusuycrabbytag: ok! i'll look in debian04:40
crabbytagvirusuy: thanks!04:40
virusuycrabbytag: i found one .... work time!04:43
virusuywhat happend when i found a RFP , and when i go to website, they already have .deb files to download ?04:44
crabbytagvirusuy: you review what they have, and see if it's under a license you may use04:47
crabbytagvirusuy: if it is, you base your work on that, and if it's unfit, please start from scratch04:47
virusuycrabbytag: ok04:48
crabbytagvirusuy: be sure to turn the RFP into an ITP :)04:48
crabbytagvirusuy: remember to always maintain copyright and clean up everything04:48
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virusuypaultag: oki doki :-D04:49
paultagvirusuy: let me know how it goes :)04:49
c2taruncan anyone please explain me this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/563707/05:46
StevenKYou don't have the Build-Depends installed05:50
c2tarunStevenK: Ok, I dont want to install them in my system. but I can install them on my pbuilder-dist any way i can do that?05:55
StevenKThen copy the source package directory inside a pbuilder chroot and run dpkg-buildpackage -S -uc -us from there05:56
micahgc2tarun: BTW, you shouldn't be using build1 for a version unless it's a rebuild of a Debian package that was sync'd05:57
c2tarunmicahg: what should i use here then?05:59
micahgc2tarun: 2.0.6-0ubuntu105:59
c2tarunmicahg: but in changelog it was in build format, why so?06:00
micahgc2tarun: that was just a rebuild of the Debian import, not something with Ubuntu changes06:00
c2tarunmicahg: ok06:01
micahgc2tarun: did uscan/uupdate not set up the right changelog or did you manually set this up?06:01
chillywillyW0000T!!!! Packers are the Superbowl Champs!!!!!!!06:01
c2tarunmicahg: no i downloaded the older version by apt-get and there was no watch file so i downloaded newer version from site06:03
micahgc2tarun: there's a newer version on mentors.debian.net, maybe you want to coordinate with Debian on this update06:04
c2tarunmicahg: which file should I upload as a my public key for gpg key?06:13
micahgc2tarun: there should be instructions on launchpad06:14
c2tarunmicahg: ya i just saw :) thanks06:15
c2tarunmicahg: there is a version on mentors.debian.net upper than version in our archives. How can I coordinate with them?06:39
micahgc2tarun: you could try commenting on debian 609789 about the new version on mentors and the new version upstream, if that doesn't get a response by the end of the week, try e-mailing the mentors uploader and the maintainer in the same e-mail and try to coordinate06:44
ubottuDebian bug 609789 in spyder "spyder: New upstream version" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/60978906:44
dholbachgood morning07:18
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simarmaco, if you don't mind can i ask you some help related to packaging .. i'm stuck at some point09:55
Bachstelzesimar: why not just ask here for everyone to see?10:24
mok0inquisitive minds want to know10:24
simarBachstelze, no problem .. i mean that would be my pleasure..10:25
simari'm a bit new to packaging and is trying to resolve this one for dapper https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/20962710:25
ubottuUbuntu bug 209627 in lighttpd (Ubuntu Dapper) "lighttpd (security) ssl fix" [Low,In progress]10:25
simari know dapper is out now but that would be good practice for me10:26
simarusing hardy sources (where bug is resolved) i found that 92_CVE-2008-1531.dpatch contains the code to fix the patch but the problem is that i do not understand the format of dpatch and there is no manual available on Internet10:27
ubottuThe connection_state_machine function (connections.c) in lighttpd 1.4.19 and earlier, and 1.5.x before 1.5.0, allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (active SSL connection loss) by triggering an SSL error, such as disconnecting before a download has finished, which causes all active SSL connections to be lost. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-1531)10:27
simarhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/563767/ contains the patch10:28
Bachstelzesimar: what's the problem ? The patch doesn't apply cleanly to the sources in DApper ?10:29
simarBachstelze, i know how to do that. can i use the same patch and use in dapper sources...10:29
Bachstelzeif it applies cleanly, yes10:31
simarBachstelze, ok .. i will try to apply.. it10:33
simarBachstelze, if you can tell me command that would make my half work done...10:33
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simari have downloaded the sources of both hardy and dapper and '''dpkg-source -x''' them in separate folders..10:34
Bachstelzesimar: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/index.php?view=use_dpatch10:36
Bachstelzesimar: basically, copy the patch from the hardy package in debian/patches of the dapper package and try to apply it10:37
Bachstelze(don't forget to also edit debian/patches/00list to "enable" it)10:37
simarBachstelze, I think i got it..10:37
simari know that..10:37
simarbut after i do that .. then what to do ..10:38
Bachstelzeafter that you update debian/changelog, create a package with debuild and see if it fixes the problem10:39
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simarhow can i check whether it fixes the problem .. i mean should i use pbuilder or virtualbox?10:40
simarBachstelze,10:41
Bachstelzesimar: you try to reproduce the bug10:41
Bachstelzepbuilder is just a tool to build the package, you can use it if you want, or just usez debuild10:42
Bachstelzeit's unimportant10:42
simarBachstelze, but i have maverick and i think the bug is already fixed here. I must have to have dapper to reproduce the bug.10:42
Bachstelzeyou just need to build the package, no matter how10:42
Bachstelzethen yes, you can use virtualbox10:43
simarBachstelze, can i build the package in maverick..?? without any of its interference..10:43
simari mean it may get some build-depends from maverick .. may be??10:44
Bachstelzesimar: yes, you can createz a Dapper pbuilder10:44
Bachstelzecreate*10:44
simarBachstelze, ok.. i mean i must build the package in dapper pbuilder and then use VB to test whether the new one removes the bug or not...10:46
Bachstelzethat would be one way to do it, yes10:46
simarBachstelze, but from where can i get dapper iso now..10:46
Bachstelzehttp://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10:47
simarBachstelze, thanks10:47
Bachstelzeactually10:48
Bachstelzethey are still on releases.ubuntu/com10:48
Bachstelze.*10:48
simarone last thing .. plz help me to install pbuilder for dapper?? or tell other easy way if you know one..10:50
BachstelzeI think you can use pbuilder-dist for that10:50
simarpbuilder-dist dapper10:51
simar??10:51
Bachstelzenot sure, I don't use it myself10:51
BachstelzeI use this .pbuilderrc10:51
Bachstelzehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Multiple%20pbuilders10:51
Bachstelzeand env variables (DIST and ARCH)10:52
simarBachstelze, Thanks you very much. I hope now I can do it..10:53
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drizthello!13:31
drizt renamed a package. I updating my old (installing before renaming) package with apt-get install but it not removed old config files from /etc. I neen properly updating of my old package. How I should write rules file for it? I need to remove old config files (from old-name package) when installing new version of package13:32
drizthey guys! is there anybody here? it's so hardy question? or is my english so bad?13:51
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c2tarunhow can i copy anthing from my home folder in pbuilder-dist environment?15:55
tumbleweedc2tarun: copy it from outside the pbuilder (the chroot is in /var/cache/pbuilder/build/something)16:11
c2tarunactually pbuilder env is in /var/cache/pb.... mine is in ~/pbuilder/16:12
tumbleweedc2tarun: pbuilder-dist doesn't set the buildplace, so it presumably still happens in /var/cache/pbuilder/build16:13
c2taruntumbleweed: thanks :) i'll try16:14
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Laneyif I ship a file in a deb with changed permissions (excluded from fixperms), will dpkg maintain local (statoverride) permission changes?16:49
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simarari-tczew, hi18:58
simarari-tczew, can i pm you18:58
ari-tczewsimar: hello. sure.19:07
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drizthi. how i can see what command execute in the postinst and preinst sections when i install my package with apt-get install?21:55
geserdrizt: add "set -x" near the top of the scripts21:57
driztgeser: you mean what i should add "set -x" to my .postinst file?21:58
geseryes21:59
driztthank you. i will try. ... maybe is there is another way to do it?21:59
driztwhat is mean "set -e" ? I have open my .postinst file and seem it on the top.22:01
StevenKIf a command exits with a status that isn't 0, the script exits22:01
driztok thank you22:01
driztI want to remove obsoletes conffiles. For it i must use .preinst file. I need to see upgrade parameter and if i got it remove old conffiles. Is it true?22:08
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MTecknologydrizt: looking for this? http://man.cx/dpkg-maintscript-helper22:16
driztmaybe ...22:17
driztthank you.22:18
driztdamn. after rpm it so hardy for me!22:19
MTecknologywhat exactly are you trying to do?22:20
drizti renamed package.22:22
MTecknologythen ya, you want that page22:23
driztafter upgrade old package (with old name) i got couple of conffiles (from old and new packages).22:23
driztMTecknology: thank you for man.cx now i can use firefox searching to find a manpage!22:30
MTecknologydrizt: I gave you a link to the page you need22:36
* MTecknology has to run off22:36

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