[07:18] <Severian> Howdy.  If I do the same qa test with 2 different computers, where one failed the test and one passwed, how do I enter them both?
[07:41] <Severian> passwed -> passed
[09:10] <Severian> So, the first couple of tests installing alpha-2 using the alternate installer have failed.  I have reported and now I am trying to decide what to try next.  Is there any way to get gnome started?  Is there something I can do from a virtual terminal?
[09:43] <jibel> Hello Severian, what kind of failure are you facing ? Do you have a bug number ?
[09:46] <Severian> bug 714404.  Gnome comes up after boot with no menus.  There is no way to start a program that I see.  I went to a virtual terminal and ran jockey-text to switch to a nvidia proprietary driver in the hopes it would help.  Rebooting after that never gives me anything but a black screen.
[09:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 714404 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Gnome menus unavailable after fresh install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714404
[09:46] <Severian> I am reinstalling right now and hoped there would be something I could try.
[09:53] <jibel> Severian, this is a know issue discovered during alpha testing last week. The master bug is part of the release notes. Let me find it.
[09:57] <jibel> Severian, bug 712630
[09:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 712630 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Alternate: Empty desktop after installation with 2D fallback (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712630
[09:59] <Severian> That does sound similar.  I chose the other option when asked to change session or close and my results were no better.  I'll add my info to that ticket.
[10:00] <jibel> Severian, thanks.
[10:01] <Severian> Should I close 714404?  It still mentions the prompt that does not have any answer that really makes sense.
[10:02] <jibel> you can mark it as duplicate and add the information to master report.
[10:04] <Severian> sure.
[10:34] <mvo_> jibel: simple(silly?) question, how do I make mago display debug output? it seems like it eats my prints or logging output (from the mago script not the app under testing)
[10:35] <jibel_> mvo_, -sv switches should make it, by default the output is buffered.
[10:39] <mvo_> jibel_: thanks, that works :)
[10:39] <mvo_> jibel_: is it currently unhappy (mago) about running inside xvfb-run ? or am I just running it with the wrong parameters?
[10:41] <jibel_> mvo_, so, that's a problem with ldtp where the ldtp client can't communicate to the ldtp daemon. There's a specific setup to proxify ldtp call to the daemon. Let me find it.
[10:47] <jibel_> mvo_, http://mago.ubuntu.com/Documentation/RunningOnHudson - Creating an a11y environment, there are 2 scripts to allow ldtp to run in an xvfb environment.
[10:48] <mvo_> thanks jibel_
[10:51] <jibel_> mvo_, I could add your scripts to the daily run if you wish ?
[10:55] <mvo_> jibel_: thanks, I need to finish it first :) plus I added some atk.Object.set_name() to make it easier to find the right widgets
[18:45] <nagappan> jibel, latest scripts for hudson x11 gui test are available here - https://launchpad.net/hudson-x11-guitest
[19:43] <bdmurray> highvoltage: you experienced bug 438637 when iso-testing?
[19:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 438637 in italc (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "italc application crashes soon after startup (affects: 2) (heat: 23)" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/438637
[19:47] <highvoltage> bdmurray: yep
[19:48] <bdmurray> highvoltage: I think a new bug reported via apport would have helped in this case
[19:48] <highvoltage> bdmurray: oops, just a moment
[19:51] <highvoltage> bdmurray: ok, I'll do so the next time I test an iso, I'll get that fixed before alpha3 as well by just not starting italc anymore on login
[19:53] <bdmurray> highvoltage: is not starting it a fix?
[20:04] <highvoltage> bdmurray: it works on the installed system, we discussed it in edubuntu before and the result was that it wasn't that useful in a live system, it also takes quite a bit of RAM so we don't want to start it by default on a live system anyway. it works once installed though. I'll look at what is needed to fix it, it would probably be nice to have it startable on live media fwiw
[20:06] <bdmurray> highvoltage: okay, that makes sense.  it probably would have been helpful to have that info in the bug for other people - like me ;-)
[20:07] <highvoltage> bdmurray: indeed, sorry. we have it all over our edubuntu notes but sometimes we forget that there are other people who care
[20:08] <bdmurray> highvoltage: okay, thanks for all the information
[20:28] <jibel> nagappan, Hi,  I didn't knew you made it a project, thanks. I'll update the documentation.
[20:29] <jibel> nagappan, btw I've patched the new mago to run with python2.6
[21:44] <hakimsheriff> Hi people
[21:45] <highvoltage> hi hakimsheriff
[21:51] <nagappan> jibel, awesome, thanks :-)