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ballbrb00:31
ballAh poo.  I was watching Doctor who and YouTube only seems to have the first half of Cave of Skulls.02:20
ballI'll have to buy it on DVD02:25
directhexcave of skulls?02:40
directhex-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 353M 2007-06-10 06:46 /data/Media/Video/Series/Doctor Who/01 - William Hartnell/Season 01/Doctor Who 01x01 An Unearthly Child/Doctor Who 01x01 The Cave of Skulls [Part 2].avi02:41
Azelphurball: http://pastebin.com/cKM8j7nn :D02:47
ballNice.02:54
ballYES!  Ubuntu appears to be booting.03:03
terran:O03:03
terranUbuntu? BOOTING?03:03
terranOn a COMPUTER?!03:03
* ball nods03:03
ballTook me all day.03:03
macoanyone done the freebsd trick and put ubuntu on a toaster yet?03:04
ballmaco: That was NetBSD03:05
macowhoops03:06
ballPants. Now I can't find the checkbox I'm looking for.03:07
ballThere's supposed to be a checkbox that lets me share a wireless connection to computers on a wired network03:09
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AlanBellmorning all07:43
* AlanBell waves http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ about07:43
MooDoohello all07:51
AlanBellMooDoo: http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/07:57
AlanBellyou know you want to07:57
MooDooAlanBell: darn you :)  done.08:00
AlanBellTheOpenSourcerer: morning08:08
TheOpenSourcererMorning08:08
dutchieAlanBell: can you not use the data off launchpad for the map?08:29
dwatkinsGood morning all08:34
MooDoomorning dwatkins08:45
* dwatkins looks at ethernet shields for the Arduino and wonders about IPv608:45
daubersMorning08:46
DJonesMorning all08:48
DJonesAlanBell: Seem to be getting a fair few people on the interactive map now09:08
wintellectMornin all09:18
MooDoomorning09:19
JamesTaitHello, $NAME! Happy $DAY_OF_WEEK!09:30
MartijnVdSJamesTait: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HelloInsertNameHere09:31
* tugrik grins at JamesTait 09:36
JamesTaitWhat can I say? I got bored with "Morning all! every day.09:39
DJonesAww, that spoils it09:40
screen-xmorning :)09:46
nigelbmorning folks09:48
nigelbMartijnVdS: Having fun post debian release? ;)09:49
MartijnVdSnigelb: all sources.lists contained "lenny" \o/09:52
MartijnVdSnigelb: so no broken build chroots09:52
nigelbMartijnVdS: WIN \O/09:53
popeyMorning!10:00
dwatkinsyo popey10:02
nigelbhey popey10:03
bigcalmMorning kids :)10:03
czajkowskialoha10:16
bigcalmHi czajkowski :)10:17
DJonesMorning czajkowski10:17
czajkowskihows you bigcalm10:17
livingdaylightgreyday10:31
MooDoolivingdaylight: windy here10:31
livingdaylightyes, and wet10:32
livingdaylightanyone know what an param file is?10:33
livingdaylighthttp://www.renegadehealth.com/ghd/blog/ in Chrome is throwing up embed param file: missing when I try to play the video10:34
DJoneslivingdaylight: Don't know what the file is, but the site works fine for me in Chrome on Windows, the video plays with no problem10:38
popeyditto10:38
livingdaylightDJones, thanks... maybe i should add that I'm using Chrome on Ubuntu10:38
TheOpenSourcererpopey: YGM 8-)10:39
DJoneslivingdaylight: I was assuming that :)10:39
livingdaylightjust opened FF and it seems to be working now. I don't know what is up with my chrome10:39
livingdaylightDJones, :)10:39
popey\o/10:40
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: YHM10:41
TheOpenSourcerer:-)10:42
* bigcalm throws 155 quid at a new tax disc10:43
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: thanks for that, something to look forward to!10:44
TheOpenSourcererpopey: Indeed - I had completely forgotten about it until AlanBell reminded me on our way back on the tube after beer and curry.10:45
s-foxHello.10:46
popeyhi10:48
* DJones should pinch the nick "silver fox" because of all his gray hair10:48
TheOpenSourcerervery amusing crawling by MS: https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/statuses/3456403622592512010:49
s-foxHi popey ,  how are you doing?10:49
TheOpenSourcererI used to work with a bloke we nicknamed the silver-fox, and another we called the Italian Swordsman.10:49
s-foxInteresting10:49
s-fox=)10:49
TheOpenSourcererHello ivanka - Good to meet you last week.10:50
DJonesTheOpenSourcerer: I can guess the reason for the silve fox nick, but don't want to contemplate the why10:51
popeys-fox: tickety boo!10:51
DJoneswhy of the other one10:51
brobostigonmorning everyone.10:51
X3Nhow did the opensource expo go?10:51
TheOpenSourcererDJones: yes. Don't go there. Just use your imagination. ;-)10:51
TheOpenSourcererX3N: Do you mean the cloud expo?10:51
DJonesTheOpenSourcerer: I'd rather not thanks10:51
* s-fox now follows TheOpenSourcerer on twitter10:51
TheOpenSourcerer\o/10:52
X3NTheOpenSourcerer: so it was mainly cloud stuff?10:52
* TheOpenSourcerer now follows s-fox in twitter10:52
s-foxYay10:53
s-fox=)10:53
TheOpenSourcererX3N: Yep.10:53
s-foxIs anyone else on twitter in here that I should be following?  I'm terrible for finding people ;)  lol10:53
* screen-x is on twitter, but never tweets.. 10:54
DJonesscreen-x: Same here10:54
TheOpenSourcererWe were on the .org pavilion. The show itself though was rather quiet... I think a lot of visitors came for the presentations rather than the exhibition.10:54
brobostigonmtr, cheers popey :)10:55
popeynp10:55
screen-xwhat's the role of fe80 ipv6 addresses, as there are enough addresses for everything to have a public address?10:56
screen-xI thought it might be just for auto conf, if no router is present, but when I isntalled radvd, it required my ethernet interface to have an fe80/link local address.10:57
DJoness-fox: This one is probably worth following http://twitter.com/#!/uupc10:57
TheOpenSourcerers-fox: That is a *lot* of custard... http://serial-coder.co.uk/blog/2011/01/sunday-night-cake/10:58
s-foxlol TheOpenSourcerer ,  I was very very ill and I wanted something to cheer me up ;)10:58
TheOpenSourcererThat'd work :-D10:59
s-foxThanks for the link DJones  :)10:59
TheOpenSourcereror kill you completely.10:59
popeyhmm, ssh to my server just hangs10:59
s-foxkill or cure is the best way TheOpenSourcerer10:59
popeyi can ping it but ssh just sits there10:59
DJoness-fox: That looks wonderful, the sort of thing for a cold day11:00
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/563793/11:00
popeysuggestions?11:00
TheOpenSourcererpopey: Tried from a different client machine?11:01
popeyah, good point11:01
TheOpenSourcererJust a thought.11:01
screen-xpopey: do you have another session on that machine, where you can read auth.log from?11:01
popeysame from another machine11:01
popeyno screen-x11:01
popeyits at home I am at work11:01
davmor2morning all11:02
popeyI was ssh'ed into it from putty on windows last night11:02
s-foxo/ davmor211:02
MooDoodavmor2: morning11:03
popeyit had a pvmove running overnight, and now I just can't get to it at all, but like I say, ping works11:03
popeyooo, just remembered it has webmin11:03
davmor2no czajkowski I see to busy scoffing waffles11:03
davmor2morning MooDoo11:03
TheOpenSourcererpopey: http://fixunix.com/ssh/74058-ssh-hang-after-ssh2_msg_kexinit-sent.html (Talk of MTU)11:04
popeyhmmm11:05
popeyguess I'll just have to wait till I get home11:05
TheOpenSourcererhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.security.ssh/browse_thread/thread/996059b8cae76932?pli=1 Discussion about putty and key formats...11:06
* s-fox adds self to this - http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we 11:06
TheOpenSourcererHmmm - The page at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ says: Please fill all the required fields! (They are)11:10
popey#blamebell11:10
MartijnVdS#blamealan11:10
s-foxI added myself, but can't see a pin :(11:11
s-fox#blamebell11:11
* s-fox tries again11:12
TheOpenSourcererI had to click the "Place your pin link" first. But 1. You can't place it as it isn't there yet. 2. It is not a "required field"11:12
s-foxHow do you place the pin? Just click on the map?11:13
TheOpenSourcererHah - I seem to have covered AlanBell 's pin completely.11:13
MartijnVdSTheOpenSourcerer: you're that big? :P11:13
* brobostigon crosses his fingers, major updates to debian sid,11:13
MartijnVdS</harsh>11:13
TheOpenSourcererlol11:13
s-fox"Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!"11:14
s-fox:(11:14
gordwhat are you supposed to put in the Description field?11:14
popeyI AM GOD!11:15
TheOpenSourcerergord: A description perhaps?11:15
popey^ that11:15
gorda description of what precisely?11:15
* s-fox just copied twitter about me bit, nice and short ;)11:15
TheOpenSourcerergord: erm you probably.11:15
gordoh really? don't need another place that has a description of me that will become outdated fast ;) will just link to launchpad11:16
nigelbgord: just use javascript to pull from launchpad api :p11:16
s-fox*sigh, give up.  Broken :(11:16
nigelbs-fox: #blamealan ;)11:16
nigelbOnly there are like 3 alans in here11:17
davmor2popey: It's Elvis people worship I know it might be hard for you to distinguish between the 2 but Elvis is the dead one ;)  #popey_is_mortal_after_all11:17
nigelbdavmor2: hahahahaha, good one11:18
czajkowskidavmor2: eh no in Brussels in hotel going through mail11:18
czajkowskiI am all waffled out11:18
davmor2popey: sorry I couldn't resist :D11:19
* davmor2 hugs czajkowski then blames her for virgin's area wide internet issues :P11:19
* czajkowski hugs davmor2 11:20
* MooDoo waits for his turn with open arms.....oi czajkowski 11:20
* davmor2 races over and hugs MooDoo 11:21
MooDoodavmor2: that'll do :)11:21
* TheOpenSourcerer shuts up and runs away to get moar coffee (and possibly a biscuit or two)11:21
* czajkowski hugs TheOpenSourcerer 11:21
* screen-x adds himself to the map11:22
daubersOoooh biscuits would be good11:22
screen-x\o/ biscuits11:22
screen-xand hi daubers :)11:22
TheOpenSourcerer2 digestives :-D11:24
TheOpenSourcererczajkowski: How was Belgium?11:24
czajkowskipretty good11:24
czajkowskisome great talks11:24
czajkowskimet a lotta people I talk to via twitter so was good to put face to names tbh11:25
MartijnVdSTheOpenSourcerer: "Belgium, man" - http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Belgium11:25
TheOpenSourcererWatch Ireland nearly lose in Rome?11:25
TheOpenSourcererlol11:25
czajkowskidear gods I was in a talk and having to get scores11:25
czajkowskifrustrating as hell11:25
ubuntuuk-planet[Alistair McKinlay] Video of the Week: Weirdest ad of all time& - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/02/video-of-the-week-weirdest-ad-of-all-time/11:27
ubuntuuk-planet[Alistair McKinlay] Best Superbowl Ads - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/02/best-superbowl-ads/11:27
s-foxWell that isn't too bad,  launched new system and it has taken over an hour for a bug to be found. Even better is that I found it, not the userbase.  /me fixes quickly and pretends it never existed ;)11:27
nigelbs-fox: oooh, nice :)11:28
s-foxFix is in place,  testing.11:29
brobostigonphew, no breakkage after sid upgrade, :)11:45
popeyi did like the Motorola Xoom superbowl ad11:47
bigcalmThe Xoom does look interesting11:53
* czajkowski hugs MooDoo, don't want him feeling left out11:54
MooDooczajkowski: don't worry i know you don't love me as much as davmor2 :p11:55
czajkowskiMooDoo: he's had to deal with me since LRL11:56
czajkowski:)11:56
MooDooczajkowski: poor bugger :)11:57
czajkowskiindeed11:57
davmor2czajkowski: to be fair so have you :P11:57
czajkowskiexactly11:58
davmor2czajkowski: did you try maverick/lucid on your dell in the end or did you bury it in the back garden?12:02
czajkowskiwent to brussels12:02
czajkowskilaptop is now in london wiht threats of fedora being installed on it12:02
davmor2czajkowski: :D still won't work :P12:03
czajkowskino idea....12:04
czajkowskiI'm blanking that conversaion out12:04
MooDoooi fedora is good too :p12:05
MooDoook ok ignore i said that12:06
davmor2MooDoo: Her netbook looks to be on it's way out :(   Which is why I say fedora won't work :)12:06
MooDoodavmor2: i knew that ;)12:06
davmor2czajkowski: maybe you could fed-ex it to MooDoo and we not allow him to go out drinking till he's fixed it :D12:07
czajkowskieh no12:08
davmor2hahaha12:08
MooDoodavmor2: easy peasy :)12:09
MooDoodavmor2: ps don't look at my irc cloak ;)12:09
s-foxFixed that bug nigelb ,  it was a little more tricky than I thought. lol12:09
davmor2czajkowski: you're too nice woman where's the old czajkowski that would of said great plan and sent it immediately12:09
davmor2MooDoo: Nice cloak :D12:10
czajkowskidavmor2: full of waffles chocolate na ddetoxing of beer12:10
MooDoodavmor2: it's coz i'm a <stop listening everyone> a fedora ambassador/mentor as well :p </ok everyone can listen again>12:10
gordwaffles n chocolate n beer \o/12:13
davmor2MooDoo: Error at  <stop listing everyone> everyone stopped listening12:14
czajkowskigord: pretty juch sums up my entire weekend12:14
davmor2czajkowski: how did your talk go?12:15
czajkowskiok :s12:15
czajkowskispoke too fast12:15
gordpretty good weekend, but its gonna take a week to get over that ;)12:15
czajkowskiI know I speak fast12:15
czajkowskiturns out I can speak even faster12:15
kazadepresentations and interviews do that to me too... why is that?12:16
screen-xkazade: nerves12:17
nigelbs-fox: the kind of bug that no one notices are the best :-P12:17
kazadeduring our evolution what possible advantage would speaking faster be when put under pressure? :)12:17
screen-xmost people have some sort of tick that they display when nervous.12:17
kazadeI can hardly imagine a caveman quickly talking down a Sabre Toothed Tiger or something12:18
kazaderunning faster I get..12:18
davmor2czajkowski: no surely not you speak to fast :P12:23
andylockranheya12:23
andylockranman, that was a tough cycle in this morning.  Got blown backwards up a hill.12:24
czajkowski:(12:24
andylockrannot looking forward to the cycle home :)12:25
dogmatic69suns shining here12:26
davmor2andylockran: why you shouldn't need to peddle once just don't hit the front brake, it's not the speed that kills you, it's the stopping :D12:27
andylockrandavmor2: it was the sideswipe into the middle of the road I was most concerned about12:31
davmor2andylockran: nice makes sure there is a bus beside you they come in useful sometimesw :)12:33
davmor2-w12:33
andylockran:p12:34
andylockrananyone help me out.  I have a Logitech keyboard with an extra button :) it's the opposite of / on the left of my z key12:35
andylockranhowever, whenever I press it, it zooms the display12:35
ali1234what do you mean "extra"?12:36
ali1234i thought all UK keyboards had that12:36
andylockranhmm, maybe12:37
DJonesandylockran: My keyboard has that key as well12:38
andylockranhmm,12:38
shaunobottom row should have \ at one end and / at the other.  for pinball :)12:46
shaunonever understood how USian keyboards managed without that12:47
Baikonurmy button left to the z has <, > and |12:55
directhexandylockran, backslash zooms?12:55
DJonesshauno: Now you've said that about pinball I don't think I've ever had a keyboard with a "\" key next to the "Z" key12:55
directhexandylockran, sounds like weirdness from compiz12:55
s-foxTime for lunch, back later13:04
andylockranta ra13:17
cpsafternoon13:34
brobostigonafternoonings cps :)13:34
cpshey brobostigon how's you? :)13:34
brobostigoncps: not bad, back and hip pain but good. and you?13:35
cpsI'm okay :)13:35
cpsmight reformat later today13:35
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alexM90hello, everybody!13:40
cpshey alexM90 :)13:41
brobostigoncps: why ?13:42
alexM90does anybody know a good python tutorial for programers? I mean I have some C++ and Java experience13:42
cpsbrobostigon: it's been playing up a lot lately; keeps crashing every hour or so13:42
brobostigoncps: not good,13:42
davmor2alexM90: Yeap there are plenty on the python.org I recommend dive into python too13:44
alexM90cheers davmor213:46
shaunoDJones: no? it shares the pipe key on every (pc) keyboard I've had; ala http://store.aramedia.com/shopimages/products/normal/kb-englishukwhite.jpg13:50
shaunobeside each shift key is a paddle key for pinball :)13:51
DJonesshauno: I was agreeing with you, every keyboard I've had has that key13:51
shaunoah, musta misread13:51
DJonesIt was when you mentioned pinball that reminded me, its always those two keys for the flippers13:51
MooDoo:)14:09
davmor2MOOO!15:19
gordoh dear, davmor2 is mooing now15:23
gordnot a good sign15:23
directhexoink15:25
davmor2gord: tired of going around in circle with python api tests :)  Needed to let off steam and the channel was quiet as czajkowski isn't around :D15:25
danfish davmor2 - she's on her way back and has got a brand new whalloping stick with extra whallop ;)15:34
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davmor2danfish: Don't believe you :P15:35
DJonesShe's from Ireland, I'm sure there's a stock of Shillelagh's to hand15:37
davmor2DJones: she can not harm me my wings are like a shield of steel, well their attached to the get away plane so I hope they are :D15:41
danfishdavmor2: this is the one http://www.swordsantiqueweapons.com/images/s343.jpg :D15:45
DJonesdanfish: That looks painful15:52
danfishDJones: yes, being hit around the head with that may well chafe somewhat15:54
pr0ph3thi all15:55
pr0ph3tI made a bit of a mess15:55
danfishwot happened?15:56
pr0ph3tI installed chrome os and grub on the mbr but ubuntu is not an option on the grub menu, now I am trying to put an iso image of ubuntu on a usb drive so I can boot into it and reinstall grub etc15:57
pr0ph3tI used the command sudo dd if=image of=device is that a good way to solve the problem?15:58
pr0ph3tsorry I used dd if=./imagename of=/device15:59
pr0ph3tlooks like it's done15:59
dwatkinsI suggest using unetbootin to make a bootable USB installer15:59
pr0ph3tdwatkins: thanks for the tip16:00
pr0ph3tI'm not even sure this is actually chrome os I'm running now16:00
dwatkinswelcome16:00
dwatkinsyou can't tell what OS you're running?16:00
pr0ph3tlooks more like openSUSE to me16:01
pr0ph3tit's definitely based on openSUSE16:01
pr0ph3tbrb hopefully16:02
Azelphurthis £100 android phone I bought for my mum seems quite spiffy, even with all of oranges bloatware16:13
AzelphurI'm gonna remove all the crap with a custom rom and tidy it up, I reckon it's got potential :)16:14
MooDooAzelphur: which phone?16:14
AzelphurOrange San Francisco / ZTE Blade, it's £100 from orange/amazon atm16:14
MooDoocool16:14
davmor2Azelphur: it's quite easy to root it and loose the orange bloatware too :)16:15
Azelphurindeed16:15
Azelphurdavmor2: have you done it? maybe you can point me in better directions, I'm no doubt working from old instructions16:16
AzelphurI'm still kinda vague on what rom to flash and how to root it16:16
davmor2http://androidforums.com/san-francisco-all-things-root/230099-guide-flashing-your-orange-san-francisco-zte-blade-custom-rom.html#post1952386  I haven't someone from the lug has though16:17
davmor2Azelphur: ^16:17
Azelphurdavmor2: nice16:19
AzelphurI probably have newer phone though, I bought it new16:19
* Azelphur checks build number16:19
Azelphuryea, I got B0816:19
Azelphurso that's no good for me :(16:20
Azelphurdavmor2: wow...that's cheap -.-16:21
Azelphurthe B08 has less RAM too16:21
AzelphurI might send it back, that's crappy16:21
lazarus_http://paste.ubuntu.com/563934/16:22
screen-xlazarus_: I'd move the file its winging about out the way, then apt-get update16:24
Azelphurdavmor2: oh no it's ok, I do indeed have the 512MB model that's ok :p16:24
Azelphurbut still B08 so that rom won't work :(16:25
davmor2Azelphur: the rooting process should still be the same though16:28
lazarus_screen-x: how would i do that16:29
Azelphurdavmor2: just fastboot clockwork right?16:29
screen-xlazarus_:  sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-amd64_Packages ~; sudo apt-get update16:29
davmor2Azelphur: again no idea a friend worked through it to get it to work for them16:29
Azelphurhehe16:30
lazarus_screen-x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/563945/16:33
screen-xlazarus_: you got that after moving the file out the way and updating?16:34
lazarus_mhm16:34
screen-xare you using a package proxy?16:34
lazarus_noo....16:34
HazRPG\o16:35
HazRPGhey all16:35
lazarus_HazRPG: hey16:35
HazRPGlazarus_: :) hey16:36
screen-xlazarus_: you could remove all the lists in /var/lib/apt/lists, then try apt-get update.16:36
lazarus_screen-x: how lol16:37
brobostigonafternoonings HazRPG :)16:40
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screen-xlazarus_: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*16:40
screen-xlazarus_: then when you apt-get update, those files will be recreated.16:40
HazRPGbrobostigon: afternoon :)16:41
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andylockranhowdy16:51
bigcalmMorning16:53
Pendulumbigcalm: a little late for that, isn't it?16:54
bigcalm;)16:54
screen-xbigcalm: long night of minecraft?16:54
brobostigonis the awake time, in the new android 2.3 battery measure graph thingie, the same as the wake time in spare parts?16:55
bigcalmscreen-x: I've been weaning myself off of the crack16:55
lazarus_screen-x: thanks16:55
* bigcalm ponders what to make for dinner16:56
bigcalmPasta bake is tempting16:56
screen-xbigcalm: curry!16:56
dogmatic69pizza16:56
bigcalmWe had pizza yesterday16:57
screen-xactually I do quite like pasta bake :)16:57
bigcalmTinned chicken corma and brown rice. That's also possible16:57
screen-xand pasta bake is within my very small remit :)16:58
bigcalmMaking do with what's in the house is us trying to be sensible16:59
bigcalmHave a table booked at a local balti house for the 14th though16:59
screen-xTo find ip address from mac address, I should use rarp? however rarp -a returns "This kernel does not support RARP", any other ways?17:02
ormiretscreen-x: ask your DHCP server?17:02
screen-xormiret: grep -i -B6 $MAC </var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases   should have thought of that :)17:05
Jibadeehawas just trying alpha 2 of unity ... quite like it .. reminds me of windowmaker with that dock17:11
Jibadeehaalpha 2 of ubuntu that is17:11
popey5/9317:11
popeybah17:11
screen-x"From February 15 you will need to be a subscriber to listen to Last.fm Radio stations on devices, including your Last.fm iPhone / iPod Touch app."     <----      /o\17:12
screen-xpopey: that's not a great score :-/17:12
* screen-x deletes last.fm app17:12
dwatkinsWhy, screen-x - I'm curious as to your reason.17:18
screen-xdwatkins: ^317:18
dwatkinsI assume it's the requirement for registration, but what's wrong with that?17:19
screen-xsubscriber = ££17:19
screen-x<-- cheapskate17:20
dwatkinsoh paid, gotcha17:20
DJonesdwatkins: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/07/lastfm_mobile_subscriptions/17:20
screen-xBasically last.fm are becoming more spotifyish, without letting you listen to exactly what you want to.17:20
screen-xI was wondering how last.fm were paying for all my streaming though :p17:21
dwatkinsthat's not so good17:21
dwatkinsyeah, me too17:21
screen-xlast.fm even have audio adverts now.17:21
dwatkinsI listen to soma.fm mostly.17:23
screen-xheh, "mission control", I'll have to try listening to that :)17:25
dwatkinsSadly philosomatika closed even though I bought 3 t-shirts.17:25
screen-xdwatkins: unfortunately freeloaders always outway paying people (/me being one of them :-/)17:26
dwatkinsYeah, I like Mission Control for background 'music' at work so I don't have to listen to others17:26
dwatkinsI don't mind occasional adverts on netradio17:26
Baikonuri haven't actually listened any other soma fm radio but suburbs of goa17:28
Baikonureven though i listen to that quite a lot17:29
dwatkinsI like trance17:29
MartijnVdSNo problems here.. but I was already a paying member for last.fm :)17:49
MartijnVdSalso, last.fm works in my Linux clients17:50
MartijnVdSspotify is more expensive and I need wine17:50
AlanBellevening peeps17:54
MartijnVdS\o17:55
popeyMartijnVdS: you dont need wine if you pay17:57
MartijnVdSpopey: only if you pay enough17:57
popeylo AlanBell17:57
davmor2MartijnVdS: you could always do what I do,  Find an internet radio station that is free and plays the music you're interested in?  or buy music and listen to that :D17:57
popeyi thought the linux client worked on all pay accounts17:57
MartijnVdSdavmor2: yeah, that's what I do17:57
MartijnVdSdavmor2: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/luisterpaal/ ("steal" some Dutch public broadcasting money :))17:58
MartijnVdSpopey: "meh" :)17:58
davmor2MartijnVdS: I listen to my own music or I like absolute radio 80's which is available in a mad selection of formats including ogg vorbis and flac17:59
MartijnVdSdavmor2: yeah, I can get it from my sat card as well :)18:03
davmor2MartijnVdS: and on virgin cable too :)  and on freeview too I think18:04
MartijnVdSdavmor2: still, I watch BBC HD from the Netherlands, the least you could do is listen to Dutch public broadcasting from the UK :P18:14
davmor2MartijnVdS: But that's cause the bbc is good right ;)18:15
MartijnVdSdavmor2: so is the VPRO18:15
MartijnVdSdavmor2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPRO18:15
davmor2MartijnVdS: the word religious put me off :D18:16
MartijnVdSdavmor2: they aren't anymore18:17
MartijnVdShaven't been since the mid-60s18:18
davmor2:D  I'm not being blagged by that line ;)18:18
MartijnVdSdavmor2: if you want religious TV in the Netherlands, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelische_Omroep18:19
davmor2MartijnVdS: No that's just it I don't :D18:19
MartijnVdS^ those people edited the bits refering to evolution out of some Attenborough documentaries18:19
pr0ph3tso there, we can't try out chrome os anymore?18:46
pr0ph3tonly comes on their hardware18:47
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: you can try to get one of those laptops18:47
jono`anyone have a uk phone number that i could send a quick sms test to? :)18:47
pr0ph3tMartijnVdS, they are only for US residents18:48
Azelphurjono`: sure18:48
Azelphurjono`: pm'd number18:49
jono`thx!18:49
pr0ph3tI tried it though and it's just openSUSE with chrome web browser installed basically, doesn't even boot that fast18:49
pr0ph3tbut I guess it's not the version that will be installed on the laptops18:50
moreatijono`: +44779081633918:51
MartijnVdSmoreati: added to spamlist18:52
pr0ph3tlol18:52
jono`heh, thank moreati, ill privmsg you :)18:52
brobostigonmoreati: thats maybe not such a good idea ina publiclly logged channel, with the possibilitly o allsorts of people  bing inhere.18:53
moreatiOh, I only scaned for digits, didn't see Azelphur's. Sorry18:53
Azelphurhehe :P18:53
davmor2jono`: do you need any more or is that enough?18:54
jono`sure, third times a charm :)18:54
jono`thanks for everyones help18:54
jono`#ubuntu-uk++ :)18:58
moreatibrobostigon: I don't hide my email address or tel number. A dumb idea maybe, but a concious decision. So far not too much SMS spam, and gmail deals with email spam19:00
brobostigonmoreati: ok, fair enough, but i wouldnt do it, myself.19:01
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: you don't have to ;)19:08
MartijnVdSyou can always get a new phone number if it gets out of hand19:09
brobostigonMartijnVdS: never had to do that,because i am careful whoi give my number to.19:10
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: it's less bother, agreed :)19:10
brobostigonMartijnVdS: very, lessbother. :)19:10
pr0ph3thow do I sync a folder on ubuntu one? basically I need those files on the cloud19:29
pr0ph3trunning ubuntu 10.10 64bit19:29
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: in the file browser, right-click -> share?19:29
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: or right-click -> ubuntu one19:30
X3Nyou will need to have setup your ubuntu one account first though via Preferences > Ubuntu one19:30
davmor2pr0ph3t: do you have an ubuntuone account?19:30
pr0ph3tX3N, I have the account already19:31
pr0ph3tyes davmor219:31
davmor2pr0ph3t: do you see a folder called Ubuntu One?19:31
davmor2in you home folder19:31
popeybrobostigon: I have had the same number since 1995 and get pretty much no spam calls/texts19:36
popeyand my number is well known19:36
* popey suspects MartijnVdS has it :)19:36
MartijnVdSpopey: I do19:37
MartijnVdSI even remember where I got it ;)19:37
brobostigonpopey: you're lucky then i think,19:37
macomost of the calls i get from people i dont know are from my dad's friends who dont realise it hasnt been his number in nearly a decade19:37
MartijnVdSI've had my number for about.. 8 years19:37
pr0ph3thave you guys tried the natty alpha 2 then?19:38
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: I'm running natty atm19:38
DJonesOne way of reducing spam calls would be to register with the TPS19:38
pr0ph3tMartijnVdS, with unity or the classic desktop?19:38
MartijnVdSclassic19:38
davmor2I have a nice mix of natty, maverick and lucid, windows etc at the moment19:38
* MartijnVdS plays with Google Fusion Tables a bit19:40
pr0ph3tsudo apt-get upgrade -d?19:40
davmor2pr0ph3t: update-manager -d19:40
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: no, and if you don't know where to find how to do it, you shouldn't be running alphas :)19:40
MartijnVdSdavmor2: ^19:40
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: (things WILL break in natty, be warned :))19:41
pr0ph3tMartijnVdS, too late19:41
pr0ph3tdavmor2, thanks19:41
davmor2MartijnVdS: No get it right pr0ph3t things keep breaking in natty19:42
MartijnVdSnatty has been the most unstable dev version since jaunty for me19:42
pr0ph3tdavmor2, I was running alpha 1 up to a couple of weeks ago19:42
pr0ph3tand by the way I am positively shocked by the new chromium web apps19:44
davmor2pr0ph3t: in that case you just need to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:45
davmor2MartijnVdS: Yeah but for go reason apparently :)19:45
davmor2MartijnVdS: it's bad when you have to revert kernels in order to get your wifi to work though, the new atheros driver adds some functionality that hasn't been used by atheros so the driver simply fails to work :D19:45
MartijnVdSdavmor2: the whole indicator thing feels unstable19:46
MartijnVdSdavmor2: so does compiz19:46
MartijnVdSand when I change/fix my keyboard layout, gnome-settings-daemon crashes and everything reverts to some "Default" gtk theme19:46
davmor2MartijnVdS: the magic of unity --reset is the most used command in my history19:47
pr0ph3tMartijnVdS, does the panel start more than one nm-applet etc?19:47
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: sometimes19:47
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: sometimes not19:47
pr0ph3tI had that a lot19:47
pr0ph3tthe keyboard problem as well for a while19:47
pr0ph3tcompiz was really cool with all the new stuff though19:48
pr0ph3talthough some things didn't work19:49
pr0ph3tanimations settings did not start19:49
lazarus_From February 15 you will need to be a subscriber to listen to Last.fm Radio stations on devices, including your Last.fm Android app. jsuk19:57
MartijnVdS\o/ already paying customer (because radio won't work at all in .nl otherwise)20:15
MooDoohello all20:45
popeylo20:45
bigcalmMorning20:47
MartijnVdSbigcalm: afternoon :)20:48
TOSDroidEveni.g all20:55
dogmatic69could anyone point me to the best way to run spotify?20:57
dogmatic69the site has some info, but for debian... should i just use that?20:57
dogmatic69or the nasty windows one...20:58
brobostigoni do believe you canrun the windows version straight out, inside wine, without issue nor difficulty,20:58
HazRPGlazarus_: no way! :(21:00
HazRPGgonna miss last.fm :(21:00
mgdmthere's a linux version that works for me21:01
lazarus_HazRPG: yea21:01
popeydogmatic69: if you are a paying spotify customer you can use the linux version, if not you use windows version in wine21:06
mgdmOooh, yes. I forgot, I pay for it. :)21:06
dogmatic69popey: ah, just read the fine print...21:06
popeyditto21:07
jacobwis there an irc channel for bytemark hosting?21:07
dogmatic69ok, so new question... how do i use wine :D21:09
* jacobw is clueless about DNS21:10
MartijnVdStime to learn :)21:10
mgdmjacobw: what's your question? I know enough to get by21:10
jacobwI assume I need a static IP to point a DNS record at?21:10
Baikonurdogmatic69: red with meats, white with fish or veggies21:11
dogmatic69ah... thats what i been doing wrong21:11
jacobwi'm ordering a vm with the intention of using it to serve a webpage at a domain that i've registered21:11
MartijnVdSthe vm will get a static IP21:12
MartijnVdSso point your records at that21:12
MartijnVdSstart $web_server21:12
MartijnVdSdone!21:12
jacobw:)21:12
* jacobw wades through the order form21:12
mgdmjacobw: yeah, that'll do it21:14
aphrekhi all21:23
ubuntuuk-planet[Matthew Garrett] Hardware vexation - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/133674.html21:28
dutchiemmmmm, beer21:28
dutchiethis is exactly what i need atm21:28
TOSDroidHorizon is quite gruesome tonight... About car crashes and how to improve things.21:35
aphreknot a barrel of laughs then..21:42
bjb_clear21:44
bjb_irssi21:46
dogmatic69a friends fb account just got hacked and chat was sending out random chats.... to bad im using ubuntu :)21:57
dogmatic69some exe download21:57
JibadeehaTOSDroid, what do they suggest to improve things21:58
TOSDroidJibadeeha: various: Medical, psychological, technical... Volvo quite well represented.22:00
TOSDroidIt will be on the iy22:00
TOSDroidIplayer shortly22:00
JibadeehaTOSDroid, great will watch that22:00
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aphrekthe battery staus has disappeared from my menu - any ideas on how to get it back?23:19
Baikonurthis might mean increased battery life23:20
Baikonurto infinity23:20
dutchieaphrek: system -> preferences -> power manager, then check the "notification area" bit on the "General" tab23:20
Baikonurquite unlikely, though23:20
aphreklol23:21
aphrekdutchie - it's set to always show an icon..?23:21
dutchiedo you have any other icons there?23:22
aphrekpressed make default & no success. Also tried to set 'never display icon' and then back to always show - still no luck..23:22
dutchiee.g. the messaging menu, which looks like an envelope23:23
aphrekyes- system status, wifi, time etc..23:23
dutchieand volume control?23:23
aphrekno - thats not there23:23
dutchiethe wifi and time live in different panel applets23:23
dutchieso you are missing the indicator applet23:23
dutchieright click on the panel, and choose add to panel23:23
aphrekaha, thanks!23:24
dutchiescroll down or search and choose "indicator applet" (not "indicator applet session"23:24
dutchie)23:24
aphreksorted - thank you23:24
dutchieno problem23:24
aphreknot sure how I lost that. Though I must say I looked through the applets & it's not completely obvious23:24
dutchieno, it isn't really23:24
aphrekanyhow - must dash thanks all, esp dutchie23:25
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