=== MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [00:31] brb [02:20] Ah poo. I was watching Doctor who and YouTube only seems to have the first half of Cave of Skulls. [02:25] I'll have to buy it on DVD [02:40] cave of skulls? [02:41] -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 353M 2007-06-10 06:46 /data/Media/Video/Series/Doctor Who/01 - William Hartnell/Season 01/Doctor Who 01x01 An Unearthly Child/Doctor Who 01x01 The Cave of Skulls [Part 2].avi [02:47] ball: http://pastebin.com/cKM8j7nn :D [02:54] Nice. [03:03] YES! Ubuntu appears to be booting. [03:03] :O [03:03] Ubuntu? BOOTING? [03:03] On a COMPUTER?! [03:03] * ball nods [03:03] Took me all day. [03:04] anyone done the freebsd trick and put ubuntu on a toaster yet? [03:05] maco: That was NetBSD [03:06] whoops [03:07] Pants. Now I can't find the checkbox I'm looking for. [03:09] There's supposed to be a checkbox that lets me share a wireless connection to computers on a wired network === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller [07:43] morning all [07:43] * AlanBell waves http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ about [07:51] hello all [07:57] MooDoo: http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ [07:57] you know you want to [08:00] AlanBell: darn you :) done. [08:08] TheOpenSourcerer: morning [08:08] Morning [08:29] AlanBell: can you not use the data off launchpad for the map? [08:34] Good morning all [08:45] morning dwatkins [08:45] * dwatkins looks at ethernet shields for the Arduino and wonders about IPv6 [08:46] Morning [08:48] Morning all [09:08] AlanBell: Seem to be getting a fair few people on the interactive map now [09:18] Mornin all [09:19] morning [09:30] Hello, $NAME! Happy $DAY_OF_WEEK! [09:31] JamesTait: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HelloInsertNameHere [09:36] * tugrik grins at JamesTait [09:39] What can I say? I got bored with "Morning all! every day. [09:40] Aww, that spoils it [09:46] morning :) [09:48] morning folks [09:49] MartijnVdS: Having fun post debian release? ;) [09:52] nigelb: all sources.lists contained "lenny" \o/ [09:52] nigelb: so no broken build chroots [09:53] MartijnVdS: WIN \O/ [10:00] Morning! [10:02] yo popey [10:03] hey popey [10:03] Morning kids :) [10:16] aloha [10:17] Hi czajkowski :) [10:17] Morning czajkowski [10:17] hows you bigcalm [10:31] greyday [10:31] livingdaylight: windy here [10:32] yes, and wet [10:33] anyone know what an param file is? [10:34] http://www.renegadehealth.com/ghd/blog/ in Chrome is throwing up embed param file: missing when I try to play the video [10:38] livingdaylight: Don't know what the file is, but the site works fine for me in Chrome on Windows, the video plays with no problem [10:38] ditto [10:38] DJones, thanks... maybe i should add that I'm using Chrome on Ubuntu [10:39] popey: YGM 8-) [10:39] livingdaylight: I was assuming that :) [10:39] just opened FF and it seems to be working now. I don't know what is up with my chrome [10:39] DJones, :) [10:40] \o/ [10:41] TheOpenSourcerer: YHM [10:42] :-) [10:43] * bigcalm throws 155 quid at a new tax disc [10:44] TheOpenSourcerer: thanks for that, something to look forward to! [10:45] popey: Indeed - I had completely forgotten about it until AlanBell reminded me on our way back on the tube after beer and curry. [10:46] Hello. [10:48] hi [10:48] * DJones should pinch the nick "silver fox" because of all his gray hair [10:49] very amusing crawling by MS: https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/statuses/34564036225925120 [10:49] Hi popey , how are you doing? [10:49] I used to work with a bloke we nicknamed the silver-fox, and another we called the Italian Swordsman. [10:49] Interesting [10:49] =) [10:50] Hello ivanka - Good to meet you last week. [10:51] TheOpenSourcerer: I can guess the reason for the silve fox nick, but don't want to contemplate the why [10:51] s-fox: tickety boo! [10:51] why of the other one [10:51] morning everyone. [10:51] how did the opensource expo go? [10:51] DJones: yes. Don't go there. Just use your imagination. ;-) [10:51] X3N: Do you mean the cloud expo? [10:51] TheOpenSourcerer: I'd rather not thanks [10:51] * s-fox now follows TheOpenSourcerer on twitter [10:52] \o/ [10:52] TheOpenSourcerer: so it was mainly cloud stuff? [10:52] * TheOpenSourcerer now follows s-fox in twitter [10:53] Yay [10:53] =) [10:53] X3N: Yep. [10:53] Is anyone else on twitter in here that I should be following? I'm terrible for finding people ;) lol [10:54] * screen-x is on twitter, but never tweets.. [10:54] screen-x: Same here [10:54] We were on the .org pavilion. The show itself though was rather quiet... I think a lot of visitors came for the presentations rather than the exhibition. [10:55] mtr, cheers popey :) [10:55] np [10:56] what's the role of fe80 ipv6 addresses, as there are enough addresses for everything to have a public address? [10:57] I thought it might be just for auto conf, if no router is present, but when I isntalled radvd, it required my ethernet interface to have an fe80/link local address. [10:57] s-fox: This one is probably worth following http://twitter.com/#!/uupc [10:58] s-fox: That is a *lot* of custard... http://serial-coder.co.uk/blog/2011/01/sunday-night-cake/ [10:58] lol TheOpenSourcerer , I was very very ill and I wanted something to cheer me up ;) [10:59] That'd work :-D [10:59] Thanks for the link DJones :) [10:59] or kill you completely. [10:59] hmm, ssh to my server just hangs [10:59] kill or cure is the best way TheOpenSourcerer [10:59] i can ping it but ssh just sits there [11:00] s-fox: That looks wonderful, the sort of thing for a cold day [11:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/563793/ [11:00] suggestions? [11:01] popey: Tried from a different client machine? [11:01] ah, good point [11:01] Just a thought. [11:01] popey: do you have another session on that machine, where you can read auth.log from? [11:01] same from another machine [11:01] no screen-x [11:01] its at home I am at work [11:02] morning all [11:02] I was ssh'ed into it from putty on windows last night [11:02] o/ davmor2 [11:03] davmor2: morning [11:03] it had a pvmove running overnight, and now I just can't get to it at all, but like I say, ping works [11:03] ooo, just remembered it has webmin [11:03] no czajkowski I see to busy scoffing waffles [11:03] morning MooDoo [11:04] popey: http://fixunix.com/ssh/74058-ssh-hang-after-ssh2_msg_kexinit-sent.html (Talk of MTU) [11:05] hmmm [11:05] guess I'll just have to wait till I get home [11:06] http://groups.google.com/group/comp.security.ssh/browse_thread/thread/996059b8cae76932?pli=1 Discussion about putty and key formats... [11:06] * s-fox adds self to this - http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we [11:10] Hmmm - The page at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/ says: Please fill all the required fields! (They are) [11:10] #blamebell [11:10] #blamealan [11:11] I added myself, but can't see a pin :( [11:11] #blamebell [11:12] * s-fox tries again [11:12] I had to click the "Place your pin link" first. But 1. You can't place it as it isn't there yet. 2. It is not a "required field" [11:13] How do you place the pin? Just click on the map? [11:13] Hah - I seem to have covered AlanBell 's pin completely. [11:13] TheOpenSourcerer: you're that big? :P [11:13] * brobostigon crosses his fingers, major updates to debian sid, [11:13] [11:13] lol [11:14] "Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!" [11:14] :( [11:14] what are you supposed to put in the Description field? [11:15] I AM GOD! [11:15] gord: A description perhaps? [11:15] ^ that [11:15] a description of what precisely? [11:15] * s-fox just copied twitter about me bit, nice and short ;) [11:15] gord: erm you probably. [11:16] oh really? don't need another place that has a description of me that will become outdated fast ;) will just link to launchpad [11:16] gord: just use javascript to pull from launchpad api :p [11:16] *sigh, give up. Broken :( [11:16] s-fox: #blamealan ;) [11:17] Only there are like 3 alans in here [11:17] popey: It's Elvis people worship I know it might be hard for you to distinguish between the 2 but Elvis is the dead one ;) #popey_is_mortal_after_all [11:18] davmor2: hahahahaha, good one [11:18] davmor2: eh no in Brussels in hotel going through mail [11:18] I am all waffled out [11:19] popey: sorry I couldn't resist :D [11:19] * davmor2 hugs czajkowski then blames her for virgin's area wide internet issues :P [11:20] * czajkowski hugs davmor2 [11:20] * MooDoo waits for his turn with open arms.....oi czajkowski [11:21] * davmor2 races over and hugs MooDoo [11:21] davmor2: that'll do :) [11:21] * TheOpenSourcerer shuts up and runs away to get moar coffee (and possibly a biscuit or two) [11:21] * czajkowski hugs TheOpenSourcerer [11:22] * screen-x adds himself to the map [11:22] Ooooh biscuits would be good [11:22] \o/ biscuits [11:22] and hi daubers :) [11:24] 2 digestives :-D [11:24] czajkowski: How was Belgium? [11:24] pretty good [11:24] some great talks [11:25] met a lotta people I talk to via twitter so was good to put face to names tbh [11:25] TheOpenSourcerer: "Belgium, man" - http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Belgium [11:25] Watch Ireland nearly lose in Rome? [11:25] lol [11:25] dear gods I was in a talk and having to get scores [11:25] frustrating as hell [11:27] [Alistair McKinlay] Video of the Week: Weirdest ad of all time& - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/02/video-of-the-week-weirdest-ad-of-all-time/ [11:27] [Alistair McKinlay] Best Superbowl Ads - http://www.10people.co.uk/index.php/2011/02/best-superbowl-ads/ [11:27] Well that isn't too bad, launched new system and it has taken over an hour for a bug to be found. Even better is that I found it, not the userbase. /me fixes quickly and pretends it never existed ;) [11:28] s-fox: oooh, nice :) [11:29] Fix is in place, testing. [11:45] phew, no breakkage after sid upgrade, :) [11:47] i did like the Motorola Xoom superbowl ad [11:53] The Xoom does look interesting [11:54] * czajkowski hugs MooDoo, don't want him feeling left out [11:55] czajkowski: don't worry i know you don't love me as much as davmor2 :p [11:56] MooDoo: he's had to deal with me since LRL [11:56] :) [11:57] czajkowski: poor bugger :) [11:57] indeed [11:57] czajkowski: to be fair so have you :P [11:58] exactly [12:02] czajkowski: did you try maverick/lucid on your dell in the end or did you bury it in the back garden? [12:02] went to brussels [12:02] laptop is now in london wiht threats of fedora being installed on it [12:03] czajkowski: :D still won't work :P [12:04] no idea.... [12:04] I'm blanking that conversaion out [12:05] oi fedora is good too :p [12:06] ok ok ignore i said that [12:06] MooDoo: Her netbook looks to be on it's way out :( Which is why I say fedora won't work :) [12:06] davmor2: i knew that ;) [12:07] czajkowski: maybe you could fed-ex it to MooDoo and we not allow him to go out drinking till he's fixed it :D [12:08] eh no [12:08] hahaha [12:09] davmor2: easy peasy :) [12:09] davmor2: ps don't look at my irc cloak ;) [12:09] Fixed that bug nigelb , it was a little more tricky than I thought. lol [12:09] czajkowski: you're too nice woman where's the old czajkowski that would of said great plan and sent it immediately [12:10] MooDoo: Nice cloak :D [12:10] davmor2: full of waffles chocolate na ddetoxing of beer [12:10] davmor2: it's coz i'm a a fedora ambassador/mentor as well :p [12:13] waffles n chocolate n beer \o/ [12:14] MooDoo: Error at everyone stopped listening [12:14] gord: pretty juch sums up my entire weekend [12:15] czajkowski: how did your talk go? [12:15] ok :s [12:15] spoke too fast [12:15] pretty good weekend, but its gonna take a week to get over that ;) [12:15] I know I speak fast [12:15] turns out I can speak even faster [12:16] presentations and interviews do that to me too... why is that? [12:17] kazade: nerves [12:17] s-fox: the kind of bug that no one notices are the best :-P [12:17] during our evolution what possible advantage would speaking faster be when put under pressure? :) [12:17] most people have some sort of tick that they display when nervous. [12:18] I can hardly imagine a caveman quickly talking down a Sabre Toothed Tiger or something [12:18] running faster I get.. [12:23] czajkowski: no surely not you speak to fast :P [12:23] heya [12:24] man, that was a tough cycle in this morning. Got blown backwards up a hill. [12:24] :( [12:25] not looking forward to the cycle home :) [12:26] suns shining here [12:27] andylockran: why you shouldn't need to peddle once just don't hit the front brake, it's not the speed that kills you, it's the stopping :D [12:31] davmor2: it was the sideswipe into the middle of the road I was most concerned about [12:33] andylockran: nice makes sure there is a bus beside you they come in useful sometimesw :) [12:33] -w [12:34] :p [12:35] anyone help me out. I have a Logitech keyboard with an extra button :) it's the opposite of / on the left of my z key [12:35] however, whenever I press it, it zooms the display [12:36] what do you mean "extra"? [12:36] i thought all UK keyboards had that [12:37] hmm, maybe [12:38] andylockran: My keyboard has that key as well [12:38] hmm, [12:46] bottom row should have \ at one end and / at the other. for pinball :) [12:47] never understood how USian keyboards managed without that [12:55] my button left to the z has <, > and | [12:55] andylockran, backslash zooms? [12:55] shauno: Now you've said that about pinball I don't think I've ever had a keyboard with a "\" key next to the "Z" key [12:55] andylockran, sounds like weirdness from compiz [13:04] Time for lunch, back later [13:17] ta ra [13:34] afternoon [13:34] afternoonings cps :) [13:34] hey brobostigon how's you? :) [13:35] cps: not bad, back and hip pain but good. and you? [13:35] I'm okay :) [13:35] might reformat later today === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller [13:40] hello, everybody! [13:41] hey alexM90 :) [13:42] cps: why ? [13:42] does anybody know a good python tutorial for programers? I mean I have some C++ and Java experience [13:42] brobostigon: it's been playing up a lot lately; keeps crashing every hour or so [13:42] cps: not good, [13:44] alexM90: Yeap there are plenty on the python.org I recommend dive into python too [13:46] cheers davmor2 [13:50] DJones: no? it shares the pipe key on every (pc) keyboard I've had; ala http://store.aramedia.com/shopimages/products/normal/kb-englishukwhite.jpg [13:51] beside each shift key is a paddle key for pinball :) [13:51] shauno: I was agreeing with you, every keyboard I've had has that key [13:51] ah, musta misread [13:51] It was when you mentioned pinball that reminded me, its always those two keys for the flippers [14:09] :) [15:19] MOOO! [15:23] oh dear, davmor2 is mooing now [15:23] not a good sign [15:25] oink [15:25] gord: tired of going around in circle with python api tests :) Needed to let off steam and the channel was quiet as czajkowski isn't around :D [15:34] davmor2 - she's on her way back and has got a brand new whalloping stick with extra whallop ;) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:35] danfish: Don't believe you :P [15:37] She's from Ireland, I'm sure there's a stock of Shillelagh's to hand [15:41] DJones: she can not harm me my wings are like a shield of steel, well their attached to the get away plane so I hope they are :D [15:45] davmor2: this is the one http://www.swordsantiqueweapons.com/images/s343.jpg :D [15:52] danfish: That looks painful [15:54] DJones: yes, being hit around the head with that may well chafe somewhat [15:55] hi all [15:55] I made a bit of a mess [15:56] wot happened? [15:57] I installed chrome os and grub on the mbr but ubuntu is not an option on the grub menu, now I am trying to put an iso image of ubuntu on a usb drive so I can boot into it and reinstall grub etc [15:58] I used the command sudo dd if=image of=device is that a good way to solve the problem? [15:59] sorry I used dd if=./imagename of=/device [15:59] looks like it's done [15:59] I suggest using unetbootin to make a bootable USB installer [16:00] dwatkins: thanks for the tip [16:00] I'm not even sure this is actually chrome os I'm running now [16:00] welcome [16:00] you can't tell what OS you're running? [16:01] looks more like openSUSE to me [16:01] it's definitely based on openSUSE [16:02] brb hopefully [16:13] this £100 android phone I bought for my mum seems quite spiffy, even with all of oranges bloatware [16:14] I'm gonna remove all the crap with a custom rom and tidy it up, I reckon it's got potential :) [16:14] Azelphur: which phone? [16:14] Orange San Francisco / ZTE Blade, it's £100 from orange/amazon atm [16:14] cool [16:15] Azelphur: it's quite easy to root it and loose the orange bloatware too :) [16:15] indeed [16:16] davmor2: have you done it? maybe you can point me in better directions, I'm no doubt working from old instructions [16:16] I'm still kinda vague on what rom to flash and how to root it [16:17] http://androidforums.com/san-francisco-all-things-root/230099-guide-flashing-your-orange-san-francisco-zte-blade-custom-rom.html#post1952386 I haven't someone from the lug has though [16:17] Azelphur: ^ [16:19] davmor2: nice [16:19] I probably have newer phone though, I bought it new [16:19] * Azelphur checks build number [16:19] yea, I got B08 [16:20] so that's no good for me :( [16:21] davmor2: wow...that's cheap -.- [16:21] the B08 has less RAM too [16:21] I might send it back, that's crappy [16:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/563934/ [16:24] lazarus_: I'd move the file its winging about out the way, then apt-get update [16:24] davmor2: oh no it's ok, I do indeed have the 512MB model that's ok :p [16:25] but still B08 so that rom won't work :( [16:28] Azelphur: the rooting process should still be the same though [16:29] screen-x: how would i do that [16:29] davmor2: just fastboot clockwork right? [16:29] lazarus_: sudo mv /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-amd64_Packages ~; sudo apt-get update [16:29] Azelphur: again no idea a friend worked through it to get it to work for them [16:30] hehe [16:33] screen-x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/563945/ [16:34] lazarus_: you got that after moving the file out the way and updating? [16:34] mhm [16:34] are you using a package proxy? [16:34] noo.... [16:35] \o [16:35] hey all [16:35] HazRPG: hey [16:36] lazarus_: :) hey [16:36] lazarus_: you could remove all the lists in /var/lib/apt/lists, then try apt-get update. [16:37] screen-x: how lol [16:40] afternoonings HazRPG :) === supercosmonaut is now known as przem [16:40] lazarus_: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* [16:40] lazarus_: then when you apt-get update, those files will be recreated. [16:41] brobostigon: afternoon :) === przem is now known as supercosmonaut [16:51] howdy [16:53] Morning [16:54] bigcalm: a little late for that, isn't it? [16:54] ;) [16:54] bigcalm: long night of minecraft? [16:55] is the awake time, in the new android 2.3 battery measure graph thingie, the same as the wake time in spare parts? [16:55] screen-x: I've been weaning myself off of the crack [16:55] screen-x: thanks [16:56] * bigcalm ponders what to make for dinner [16:56] Pasta bake is tempting [16:56] bigcalm: curry! [16:56] pizza [16:57] We had pizza yesterday [16:57] actually I do quite like pasta bake :) [16:57] Tinned chicken corma and brown rice. That's also possible [16:58] and pasta bake is within my very small remit :) [16:59] Making do with what's in the house is us trying to be sensible [16:59] Have a table booked at a local balti house for the 14th though [17:02] To find ip address from mac address, I should use rarp? however rarp -a returns "This kernel does not support RARP", any other ways? [17:02] screen-x: ask your DHCP server? [17:05] ormiret: grep -i -B6 $MAC was just trying alpha 2 of unity ... quite like it .. reminds me of windowmaker with that dock [17:11] alpha 2 of ubuntu that is [17:11] 5/93 [17:11] bah [17:12] "From February 15 you will need to be a subscriber to listen to Last.fm Radio stations on devices, including your Last.fm iPhone / iPod Touch app." <---- /o\ [17:12] popey: that's not a great score :-/ [17:12] * screen-x deletes last.fm app [17:18] Why, screen-x - I'm curious as to your reason. [17:18] dwatkins: ^3 [17:19] I assume it's the requirement for registration, but what's wrong with that? [17:19] subscriber = ££ [17:20] <-- cheapskate [17:20] oh paid, gotcha [17:20] dwatkins: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/07/lastfm_mobile_subscriptions/ [17:20] Basically last.fm are becoming more spotifyish, without letting you listen to exactly what you want to. [17:21] I was wondering how last.fm were paying for all my streaming though :p [17:21] that's not so good [17:21] yeah, me too [17:21] last.fm even have audio adverts now. [17:23] I listen to soma.fm mostly. [17:25] heh, "mission control", I'll have to try listening to that :) [17:25] Sadly philosomatika closed even though I bought 3 t-shirts. [17:26] dwatkins: unfortunately freeloaders always outway paying people (/me being one of them :-/) [17:26] Yeah, I like Mission Control for background 'music' at work so I don't have to listen to others [17:26] I don't mind occasional adverts on netradio [17:28] i haven't actually listened any other soma fm radio but suburbs of goa [17:29] even though i listen to that quite a lot [17:29] I like trance [17:49] No problems here.. but I was already a paying member for last.fm :) [17:50] also, last.fm works in my Linux clients [17:50] spotify is more expensive and I need wine [17:54] evening peeps [17:55] \o [17:57] MartijnVdS: you dont need wine if you pay [17:57] popey: only if you pay enough [17:57] lo AlanBell [17:57] MartijnVdS: you could always do what I do, Find an internet radio station that is free and plays the music you're interested in? or buy music and listen to that :D [17:57] i thought the linux client worked on all pay accounts [17:57] davmor2: yeah, that's what I do [17:58] davmor2: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/luisterpaal/ ("steal" some Dutch public broadcasting money :)) [17:58] popey: "meh" :) [17:59] MartijnVdS: I listen to my own music or I like absolute radio 80's which is available in a mad selection of formats including ogg vorbis and flac [18:03] davmor2: yeah, I can get it from my sat card as well :) [18:04] MartijnVdS: and on virgin cable too :) and on freeview too I think [18:14]