[04:56] <nlsthzn> Good morning SOUTH AFRICA... today is Monday, the 7th and this will be the last 7th of this month so make it count!
[04:56] <superfly> morning nlsthzn!
[04:56] <superfly> haha
[04:58] <nlsthzn> :) I am getting pretty good and installing and configuring certain distro's (which is sad cause I never get to use them)... just setup Kubuntu 10.10 wiith KDE 4.6 again... re-configuring all chat and mail apps (again)
[05:02] <Symmetria> *sigh*
[05:02] <Symmetria> piece of advice for all of you
[05:03] <Symmetria> never, ever, ever, ever, ever buy cisco high end routers if you can avoid it
[05:03]  * Symmetria hates 
[05:03] <Symmetria> I swear if I never have to order another piece of cisco gear again in my life I will be happy
[05:04] <Symmetria> big expensive pieces of crap that are full of software bugs :( 
[05:04]  * Symmetria wants to replace all of them with junipers
[05:05]  * nlsthzn thought cisco was the bomb
[05:05] <superfly> Symmetria: I thought you said that cisco is the bomb
[05:09] <Symmetria> heh superfly I said cisco makes fast routers, way faster than a lot of the other cheap crap
[05:09] <Symmetria> but of late
[05:09] <Symmetria> their stuff has been giving a LOT of problems
[05:09] <Symmetria> We're buying more and more juniper gear now
[05:10] <Symmetria> the problem is, some of these issues are soooo hard to debug
[05:10] <superfly> btw, Symmetria, how's the server upgrade coming along? when are you expecting the kit to arrive?
[05:11] <Symmetria> will know that as soon as the hardware guy arrives
[05:11] <Symmetria> Im hoping this week or mid next week
[05:11] <Symmetria> Im going to get Patrick to go do full firmware upgrades on the current server today though to see if it puts an end to the prboelms we've been seeing (and the reason the server is offline right now)
[05:31] <Kilos> morning superfly and everyone else
[05:54] <Symmetria> heh gawd when you start doing really deep network debugging, there are some really... interesting commands... hidden away on routers 
[05:54] <Symmetria> if you know how to turn them on that is
[05:55] <Symmetria> lol, on a cisco, type service internal and then start issuing certain show commands and it starts doing things like packet header capture off the asics for you to analyze 
[06:35] <sakhi> mooning 
[06:37] <superfly> aloha sakhi
[06:38] <bmg505> gmsa
[06:39] <bmg505> :)
[06:39] <superfly> morning bmg505!
[06:39] <bmg505> Symmetria, most of their undocumented feature is the source of most exploits or used to be
[07:36] <nlsthzn> you guys aware of severed fifth?
[07:41] <superfly> yes
[07:42] <nlsthzn> cool, downloaded the albums... now for some metal :)
[08:24] <Count_Janik> today a legend in rock is no more: http://www.eyewitnessnews.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=58821
[08:24] <Count_Janik> :(
[08:30] <nlsthzn> Count_Janik: bit before my time, but sad when ones idols and legends die
[08:30] <Count_Janik> yep
[09:52] <Symmetria> sorry about that marcog/sakhi
[09:52] <Symmetria> we have a bit of a major problem we're trying to resolve 
[12:41] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: marcog asks what this is in reference to
[18:36] <inetpro> guten abend
[18:36] <drubin> inetpro: hilo
[18:36] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[18:36]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:36] <superfly> inetpro: guten abend
[18:37] <inetpro> heh drubin & superfly, how are yeah?
[18:37] <superfly> moeg
[18:38] <inetpro> superfly: why that?
[18:39] <superfly> inetpro: didn't get much sleep last night, spent the night on the couch to get a little bit of shuteye
[18:39] <drubin> baie moeg
[18:39] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... I know the feeling
[18:39] <drubin> superfly: shame... but I don't know the feeling
[18:40] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro!
[18:40] <inetpro> Maaz: baie dankie
[18:41] <Maaz> Plesier inetpro
[18:41] <inetpro> drubin: how come you are tired?
[18:42] <inetpro> should still be fully loaded with energy
[18:45] <drubin> inetpro: I just got back from cycling 30km :)
[18:46] <inetpro> drubin: very nice
[18:47]  * drubin is trying
[18:47] <drubin> it doesn't actually seem that much when I type it out, but it is an improvement on when I started
[18:49] <marcog> drubin: ta for the banner/table cloth
[18:49] <marcog> i'm sure it drew in quite a bit of attention
[18:49] <drubin> marcog: We want it back in one piece and pics!
[18:49] <marcog> for pics ask tumbleweed 
[18:49] <drubin> if there isn't pics we are going to be very sad pandas
[18:49] <drubin> s/isn't/aren't/
[18:49] <marcog> one piece - hmm, that might be a bit late
[18:50] <marcog> you didn't add it in the agreement before handing it over
[18:50]  * drubin hopes marcog is joking
[18:50] <marcog> :P
[18:50] <marcog> :P
[18:50] <marcog> ofc i am :)
[18:50] <drubin> it was quite a big thing who knows
[18:50] <marcog> half the people kept thinking we had 2 banners
[18:50] <drubin> marcog: Glad it drew attention
[18:50] <marcog> not realising how massive it was
[18:51] <marcog> before unrolling that is
[18:51] <marcog> we want to try prod ctpug to get a python equivalent
[18:51] <marcog> then borrow that for AC/Umonya
[18:51] <drubin> marcog: This was sponsored by canonical... might not have the same funds in ctpug
[18:52] <marcog> tumbleweed says they're looking for things to get sponsorship for
[18:52] <drubin> marcog: Can you please ask tumbleweed for pics
[18:52] <marcog> Maaz: tell tumbleweed drubin wants pics of the stand
[18:52] <Maaz> marcog: Sure, I'll tell tumbleweed on freenode
[18:52]  * drubin honestly doesn't know his toes from his head at the moment
[18:53] <drubin> I mean he reads logs... I mean will you prod him :)
[18:53] <tumbleweed> Maaz: .
[18:53] <Maaz> tumbleweed: Huh?
[18:53] <Maaz> tumbleweed: By the way, marcog on freenode told me "tell tumbleweed drubin wants pics of the stand" 38 seconds ago
[18:53] <tumbleweed> yeah I'll post pics
[18:53] <tumbleweed> brb upgrading this box to squeeze
[18:53] <drubin> tumbleweed: \o/
[18:55] <tumbleweed> that seems to have worked
[19:07] <Kilos> evening all. found an interesting tool for fixing mbr with grub and grub2
[19:07] <Kilos> http://download2.berlios.de/supergrub/super_grub_disk_0.9799.iso
[19:07] <Kilos> cand even boot an OS that doesnt boot on its own
[19:08] <Kilos> can
[19:10] <Kilos> and i first went to an ubuntu site then got the info from there
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: does that mean your problems are just grub issues?
[19:19] <Kilos> yip inetpro  looks like but my 80g still giving probs
[19:20] <Kilos> install xp and works but wont take maverick
[19:20] <Kilos> will try this tool on the 80g tomorrow
[19:21] <Kilos> its actually the mbr not grub
[19:21] <Kilos> that tool fixes mbr as well
[19:21] <Kilos> there are 2 iso's for grub and grub2
[19:22] <Kilos> not sure what the site address is anymore must be that link minus the last bit hey?
[19:23] <Kilos> and i got 9.10 running on my overclocked P3 with 192m ram
[19:23] <Kilos> so if the P4 crashes i am not without contact again
[19:26] <Kilos> and i have a custom cd made with remastersys which i must still try. made here on p4 with an updated maverick
[19:26] <Kilos> took a while to work out how to get it to cd. but only 292m so dunno if it can all be there
[19:27] <Kilos> maybe its well compressed
[19:28] <Kilos> one thing about maverick i dont enjoy too much is having to install aptitude and gedit etc on their own 
[19:30] <Kilos> but its much better than karmic with the close windows X on the right. kinda hard to remember where to find them when swopping from one to the other
[19:39] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[19:39]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[19:39] <Kilos> Maaz, with cremora
[19:39] <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste
[19:40] <Kilos> Maaz, and milk
[19:40] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[19:40] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[19:40] <Maaz> Sure thing Kilos... Hey guy's!!  Bring your mugs. I am tired of doing all the dishes on my own.
[19:43] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:43] <Kilos> Maaz, gracias
[19:43] <Maaz> Kilos: ¡de nada!
[19:47] <Kilos> much too windy , the weeds are blowing in and out
[20:00] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight