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Daskreechnixternal: ping01:58
nixternalDaskreech: pong02:59
Daskreechnixternal: Would you happen to have any contacts for any lawyers?03:00
nixternalhaha, no. why?03:01
Daskreechnixternal: I have a friend in slovak doing a law degree and they need some information on punishment choices from the US03:11
Daskreechtrying to find a lawyer or legal they can make contact with03:11
highvoltageoh wow, it's nixternal 03:56
nixternaloh wow, it's highvoltage :)03:59
Daskreechhi nixternal :)04:01
highvoltagenixternal: not sure if it's my imagination, but it just feels like you haven't been around in a while :)04:09
nixternali haven't been...been hiding04:09
Daskreechnixternal: any idea how I can get some Legal's e-mail address? :)04:22
nixternalDaskreech: google :p04:23
nixternali have no clue04:23
DaskreechHmm they do have legal people!04:23
* Daskreech wonders the ramifications of hunting down people at Google via google and bugging them on Gtalk04:23
nigelbnixternal: hey, you're back!05:14
nixternali am always in here, just not always active...or not active at all05:28
nigelbnixternal: yes, yes, that's the point05:39
nigelbnixternal: you're active again :D05:39
nigelbhighvoltage: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!06:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes you did10:31
nigelb\o/ http://kde.in/conf/keynotes/10:42
shadeslayerkool10:42
shadeslayerwhee lydia is coming :D10:44
tazzshadeslayer, you didnt know ?10:46
shadeslayertazz: she had a talk iirc10:47
shadeslayerno keynote ... 10:47
tazzyea... i said that because "<shadeslayer> whee lydia is coming :D"10:47
shadeslayerhmm10:51
shadeslayershould i apply for kubuntu dev10:51
agateauRiddell: ping11:44
Riddellgrr, my laptop won't connect to my wireless11:50
Riddellbad laptop, bad wireless11:51
Riddellpong agateau 11:51
shadeslayeragateau: do you have a rotating busywidget for me? :D11:56
shadeslayerin .gif format :)11:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: you be finding minions11:56
apacheloggerno minions => no chance for kubuntu dev11:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: tazz !!11:57
shadeslayeroh my11:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: tazz is a candidate for minion'ship11:57
shadeslayeroh and11:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: what's the name of the star icon that is showed in GHNS push buttons?11:58
apacheloggerstar :P11:58
apachelogger*shrug*11:58
apacheloggertake a look at the GHNS code11:59
apacheloggersomething with like or bookmark I presume11:59
shadeslayeryeah already looking11:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: the KDM theme chooser page does not have a icon besides the GHNS push button11:59
shadeslayers/page/KCM12:00
shadeslayeraha12:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: /usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/actions/get-hot-new-stuff.png12:00
shadeslayericon of it's own ^_^12:00
tazzwa??12:05
Riddelltazz: you're going to be an elite Kubuntu ninja?12:06
tazzarigato sensei!12:07
Riddellagateau: doesn't like the new libindicate-qt https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete-message-indicator/0.2.0-0ubuntu3/+buildjob/224685912:18
Riddellagateau: likewise https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-message-indicator/0.5.6-0ubuntu5/+buildjob/224686312:20
debfxthey shouldn't check for libindicate when they are using libindicate-qt12:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: want to have a look at a patch for kdm kcm?12:28
shadeslayeri'm still testbuilding it12:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564401/12:28
shadeslayeranyone seen rbelem lately?12:33
Riddellshadeslayer: he pinged me yesterday but didn't stay around for a pong12:39
Riddellrdieter: you're having the same problem of kdebindings on ARM?  (does Fedora do ARM?)12:50
rdieterRiddell: I can let you know shortly, been working on getting the qt/kde stack up to snuff on arm over the past week or so.12:52
shadeslayerah12:54
shadeslayerRiddell: do one line changes to got reviewboard as well?12:57
shadeslayerin the KDM KCM module, GHNS is missing a icon :P12:58
shadeslayerso i fixed it by passing a KIcon to its constructor12:58
shadeslayerer.12:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: if it is reviewworthy it goes to reviewboard :P12:59
shadeslayer*do one line changes have to go through reviewboard as well?12:59
shadeslayerhaha12:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok .. then ... hold on a second ^_^12:59
shadeslayer94 % done ...13:00
shadeslayer\o/13:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: Riddell http://paste.ubuntu.com/564416/13:01
apacheloggerhm13:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: that looks wrong13:04
apacheloggerisnt there a knewstuffbutton or something like that?13:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/knewstuff/html/classKNS_1_1Button.html13:06
highvoltagenigelb: thanks :)13:16
* shadeslayer looks13:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: ah so the Pushbutton itself is wrong13:18
agateauRiddell: debfx is right, let me fix this13:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: hai13:18
* shadeslayer tries to fix13:18
shadeslayeri keep dropping off the interwebz13:19
apacheloggerwell13:20
apacheloggerobviously13:20
apacheloggerreception must be horrible over in india13:20
apacheloggerthat is considerably far away from big ben13:20
* apachelogger upps fosdem pix13:21
* Riddell suspects apachelogger of watching the IT Crowd13:21
apacheloggeras usual I did forget to take pictures half the time even though I had a plan to just make photos of everything...13:21
* apachelogger thinks Riddell might be right13:22
shadeslayerheh13:22
shadeslayer@_@ [ 70%] [ 72%] [ 72%] [ 72%] /home/shadeslayer/tmp/kde-workspace/kdm/kcm/kdm-theme.cpp:37:29: fatal error: knewstuffbutton.h: No such file or directory13:27
shadeslayerAHAHAHA Deprecated, use knewstuff3!13:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: thou art outdated13:28
apacheloggershadeslayer: kns3 also got that button13:28
miliansince 10.10 I have huge rendering issues on my work machine that has an ati card. fglrx driver seems to work, at least glxgears and glxinfo seem to output the expected stuff13:36
milianwith rendering issues I mean: text overlapping in konsole, sluggish moving of windows, general painting issues when scrolling in various apps (firefox, quassel, ...)13:36
miliananyone ever heard of that?13:36
miliankwin effects are turned off13:36
miliankde 4.6.0 btw13:37
MamarokRiddell: has that been abandoned? I thought there were plans to have a client for Ubuntu One13:37
RiddellMamarok: apachelogger did it for summer of code but nothing has happened since13:38
Mamarokah, OK13:38
RiddellMamarok: although one of the ubuntu one guys is a Qt fan and has been saying he'll do a Qt frontend.  that's not really the same as KDE integration though13:39
Riddellmilian: usual compositing lottery?  (see mgrasslin's blog from this week)13:39
Riddellmilian: hmm, with compositing off though, dunno, general X crappyness?13:40
Riddellmilian: I'd point you at our X people but I suspect they'll only be interested if you're running natty13:40
milianmaybe - what I also notice: I got dual screen and moving a small window on one of those is generally fast but *very* slow on the other one13:41
milianthe other painting issues I see on both screens though13:41
milianis there a free ati driver that can do dual screens?13:42
milian01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]13:42
milianso that I could try that?13:42
milianmaybe it's fglrx that's crappy :-S13:42
milianslow moving wouldn't be so bad even if at least text would not be painted wrongly in konsole :-S13:42
Riddellmilian: I believe there's about three ATI drivers, but I only know this from mgrasslin's blog13:43
agateauRiddell: new plasma-widget-message-indicator out13:44
Riddellagateau: yay!13:44
agateauRiddell: new kopete-message-indicator out as well13:50
Riddellawooga13:53
debfxRiddell: can you sponsor a few packages?14:01
Riddelldebfx: sure14:01
debfxRiddell: kdemultimedia and kubuntu-default-settings14:02
debfxand http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/phonon_4.7.0really4.4.4-0ubuntu3.debdiff14:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564463/14:10
shadeslayerderp14:11
shadeslayerone sec14:12
shadeslayerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/564464/14:13
Riddelldebfx: what's the significance of the phonon patch?14:21
debfxRiddell: it makes packages that link against libphonon depend on the phonon package14:21
debfxwhich recommends a phonon backend14:22
shadeslayerhmm14:22
Riddellclever14:23
Riddelldebfx: all uploaded14:23
debfxRiddell: thanks14:23
debfxagateau: it would be great if you could build libindicate-qt with -fvisibility=hidden in the future14:25
debfxagateau: though I'm not sure if doing so breaks the ABI14:25
agateaudebfx: mmm... I am no build expert... think you can try a patch?14:26
debfxagateau: sure14:28
agateaudebfx: great!14:28
Riddellagateau: you "Reworked one of the dialog of the Kubuntu Notification Helper"?  that doesn't seem to be in bzr, is there a merge to be done?14:35
agateauRiddell: I made a merge request, it was merged in by one of the Jonathans14:35
shadeslayerany ideas how to forward declare knewstuffbutton.h ? ... i used class knewstuffbutton ... didn't work14:36
agateaushadeslayer: use proper capitalization? :)14:36
Riddellagateau: oh yes, there is it, my mistake14:36
nigelbRiddell / apachelogger : either of you want to take a session at UDW?14:36
nigelb(Ubuntu developer week)14:36
shadeslayeralso ...14:37
shadeslayerRiddell: can you upload kdegames? Quintasan_ seems to have forgotten about it14:37
agateaushadeslayer: it's in a namespace14:37
shadeslayerwe don't want upstream breathing down our necks14:37
agateaushadeslayer: you must do it like this:14:37
shadeslayeroh14:37
agateaushadeslayer: namespace KNS3 { class Button; }14:37
shadeslayeragateau: one sec :)14:37
shadeslayeragateau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564477/14:38
shadeslayersince bGetNewThemes is in the header, i need to modify that as well14:38
agateaushadeslayer: is there a question attached with this paste?14:38
Riddellshadeslayer: doing14:38
agateauoh ok :)14:38
shadeslayer:D14:39
agateaushadeslayer: just add the snippet I wrote to kdm-theme.h it should be ok14:39
shadeslayerok14:39
agateaushadeslayer: but the code in kdm-theme.cpp looks very wrong14:40
agateaushadeslayer: you are declaring a new local "bGetNewThemes" var instead of initializing the one from the class14:40
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nigelbwhat the..14:45
nigelbsorry14:45
* agateau detected a cat on a keyboard14:45
DaskreechMore like a paste14:46
Daskreechcats have a more /dev/random function14:46
nigelbits just irssi spitting nonsense14:46
shadeslayerhaha 14:47
shadeslayerwhee14:47
shadeslayeragateau: thanks agateau :)14:47
agateau Daskreech: indeed14:47
agateaushadeslayer: you're welcome14:47
shadeslayer\o/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/564485/14:47
shadeslayeri have to get up, walk to the end of the other room and manually reset the router everytime i lost my interwebzx14:48
shadeslayer-x14:48
shadeslayerdone that ... about ... 9 times already14:48
Riddellshadeslayer: would you be able to put kdegames into kubuntu-ppa/backports too?  upstream was asking14:57
shadeslayeryep .. will do14:57
DaskreechWould anyone happen to have an e-mail for any legals?14:58
shadeslayerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/4330 << can that go into KDE Trunk? :)14:59
Riddellshadeslayer: I would say so, you should check with ossi, who's on #kde-devel15:02
agateaushadeslayer: be careful, ossi is... difficult sometimes :)15:02
shadeslayerok15:02
shadeslayeragateau: thanks for the tip :)15:03
apacheloggernigelb: when is that?15:16
nigelbapachelogger: last week of feb15:16
nigelbapachelogger: you can pick an empty slot from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable#preview15:16
nigelberm minus the preview bit15:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: looks good15:17
apacheloggerexcept that the patch is incomplete15:17
apacheloggeralso bugged15:17
apachelogger+    KNS3::Button* bGetNewThemes = new KNS3::Button(i18nc("@action:button", "&Get New Themes"), "kdm.knsrc" , this);15:17
apacheloggerwhat you are doing there is overriding the member bGetNewThemes15:18
apacheloggerthus the member will not ever be set and dangle until the kcm crashes thanks to the ptr15:18
shadeslayerdude15:18
shadeslayeragateau: http://paste.kde.org/433015:18
shadeslayererm15:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/433015:18
apacheloggermadness15:18
apacheloggerstill incompletel15:19
shadeslayerO_O15:19
apacheloggerthe old qpushbutton surely had further magic attached, magic that is now handled by the button15:19
apacheloggere.g. I would suppose the newstuffbutton does the downloaddialog stuff...15:19
shadeslayerno15:20
shadeslayerKSN has a seprate header for download dialogs15:21
shadeslayerand i haz the apporoval of ossi :P15:21
nigelbapachelogger: still interested?15:22
apachelogger...15:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: my leg also has its own header15:22
shadeslayer@_@15:23
apacheloggerthat still does not prevent me from using it 15:23
apachelogger...15:23
apacheloggernigelb: I dont have time that week it would seem15:23
nigelbapachelogger: aw :(15:24
apacheloggerMamarok: there is an ubuntu one client15:24
apacheloggerand it does not work with KDE15:24
apacheloggerwhich is a bug and should be reported as such, if that did not happen yet15:25
shadeslayer^_^15:25
apacheloggerlikely no one reported that because they are all whiny about not getting a kde ui15:25
milianRiddell: switched to radeon driver, now the issues are gone - seems like fglrx is pretty broken for my card in 10.1015:27
miliananywasy, good news that the foss drivers are working so good now15:27
Riddellmilian: X is such a lottery really :(15:29
Riddellhi rbelem 15:29
* apachelogger does the wayland dance15:30
shadeslayerapachelogger: hah15:30
shadeslayerapachelogger:  i see 3 instances of bGetNewThemes15:30
shadeslayerone of them is the allocation of bGetNewThemes to the heap, the second adds it to the main window and the 3rd is the connect for when it is clicked15:31
apacheloggerwah?15:31
shadeslayerinstances as in ... uses :P15:31
apacheloggerah15:31
apacheloggeryeah15:31
apacheloggerso15:31
shadeslayerso imo it doesn't need further poking15:31
apacheloggerquestion is, why do you tell me? :P15:31
* apachelogger notes that by now he also looked at the file15:31
apacheloggershadeslayer: it does15:31
apacheloggerand that is not even my opinion :P15:31
apacheloggerit just does15:31
shadeslayerheh15:31
shadeslayeri don't see what i can do further :S15:32
apacheloggerwell15:32
apacheloggersince there are only 3 uses one of them must be the bogus15:33
shadeslayerwha15:36
shadeslayerhow is one of them bogus? all of the uses look sane15:37
apacheloggerlook at the knewstuffbutton.cpp and say that again15:39
shadeslayerlooking15:39
shadeslayeri still don't see it15:40
* apachelogger just fell asleep while reading15:40
apacheloggeroh my15:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you test your change?15:41
* shadeslayer gives apachelogger a unicorn to keep him company15:41
apacheloggeras in: runtime test15:41
shadeslayerno ... :S15:41
apacheloggerdo that15:41
apacheloggerthen you will see why your change is incomplete15:42
shadeslayerok15:42
shadeslayercloning is going to be a PITA15:43
shadeslayerbuilding even more so15:43
debfxagateau: http://paste.kde.org/4336/16:35
agateaudebfx: nice, thanks!16:36
agateaudebfx: will review tomorrow16:37
agateau(busy busy right now)16:37
ari-tczewRiddell: bug 71379016:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 713790 in libktorrent (Ubuntu) "Sync libktorrent 1.0.5-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71379016:47
ari-tczewdid ScottK response for any concerncs?16:48
shadeslayeruh ok16:48
shadeslayerdcmtk was updated16:48
* shadeslayer looks16:48
shadeslayerand p.d.o looks much better now16:49
ari-tczewshadeslayer: what is p.d.o?16:55
shadeslayerari-tczew: packages.debian.org :D16:55
ari-tczewshadeslayer: I don't see any difference.16:56
shadeslayerRiddell: rekonq 0.7 alpha out today, might want to keep a eye on that :)16:56
shadeslayerari-tczew: sorry?16:56
ari-tczewshadeslayer: you wrote p.d.o looks better, why?16:56
shadeslayerah16:57
shadeslayerari-tczew: new theme etc16:57
ari-tczewshadeslayer: so I wrote: I don't see any difference.16:57
ari-tczewshadeslayer: nevermind, I forgot packages.debian.org with PTS17:01
ari-tczews/forgot/mistake17:01
shadeslayer:)17:02
shadeslayerrekonq 0.7 Alpha 1 tagged17:16
=== dpm_ is now known as dpm
shadeslayerScottK: around?17:37
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/4341 << DSO Linking ... and i can't make head or tails of the debian wiki page17:38
shadeslayerhah17:41
shadeslayerQuintasan_: and you thought SIP was a problem, go look at dcmtk17:42
shadeslayeri'm taking a break ... cya17:57
afiestasrbelem: ping18:05
rbelemafiestas: pong18:16
ryanakcaRiddell: Thanks for the sync19:11
debfxshadeslayer: that dcmtk package is seriously broken19:11
Riddellagateau: I take it kubuntu_02_fix_text_overlap_in_systemtray.diff can be removed from plasma-widget-message-indicator now?19:24
Riddellbug 63241919:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 632419 in plasma-widget-indicatordisplay (Ubuntu) "Hiden items in systray are not well arranged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63241919:24
Quintasan_shadeslayer: yeah? then do SIP for project-neon20:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: ping20:07
apacheloggerQuintasan_: ping20:08
Quintasan_pong20:08
Quintasan_apachelogger: ^20:08
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
apacheloggerQuintasan_: you be talking about nightly builds using launchpad at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable20:08
apacheloggerplease select a time slot20:08
QuintasanI will be talking as in I'm in no position to refuse?20:09
debfxshadeslayer: ping20:09
apacheloggerQuintasan: exactly20:09
apacheloggerdebfx: ping20:09
debfxapachelogger: pongpong20:09
apacheloggerdebfx: you be talking about kubuntu development at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable20:09
apacheloggerplease select a slot20:09
debfxo_O20:09
apacheloggerdebfx: also you need a minion to become kubuntu dev ... :P20:10
Quintasanapachelogger: Firday 4th  @ 19 UTC seems to be okay20:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: groovy, just add yourself :)20:11
Quintasanapachelogger: You want me to talk about Project Neon or about nightly builds in general20:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: general would be better, but with neon as example20:12
Quintasanapachelogger: I will add it as (not confirmed) since I dont know if I'll be going anywhere then20:12
apacheloggerso one has practical stuff to hold on to20:12
apacheloggerQuintasan: maybe you should use another slot then?20:12
apachelogger..or when will you know?20:12
Quintasanapachelogger: tomorrow20:12
apacheloggerah, fair enough20:12
apacheloggerwhere is jt?20:13
QuintasanWhat is where?20:13
apacheloggerproducing faulty software and then hiding -.-20:13
apacheloggerQuintasan: jontheechidna20:14
QuintasanOh, I guess he hid just to annoy you20:14
apacheloggerprobably20:14
Quintasanhmm, I will have to prepare it next week20:15
Quintasansounds reasonable20:15
Quintasanwell then, back to pretending that I am doing my homework properlly20:15
apachelogger^^20:16
QuintasanProvided that one school year is around 290 days and one day of pretending gives me 1 skill point then I already have 4900+20:18
QuintasanNext stop, OVER 900020:18
apacheloggerI need a dollar, a dollar is all I need20:21
QuintasanIf you don't have a dollar then how do you pay ur internet bill?20:21
apacheloggerwell20:22
apacheloggerwe do not haz dollars in the union of europe and mars20:23
QuintasanSo why the hell do you need a dollar?20:23
apacheloggercoz I was sining!!!20:25
apacheloggerdebfx: do you have a slot yet?20:27
* apachelogger git adds Quintasan by mistake20:27
Quintasanhow the hell you can add me to git?20:27
* Quintasan is not translateable into binary20:27
apacheloggereveryone is!!!20:28
Quintasanlolwut20:29
QuintasanI'm off20:29
Quintasangood luck adding me to git20:29
debfxapachelogger: no thanks, i'll pass on that20:35
apacheloggerdebfx: why?20:35
apacheloggerI needz you :/20:35
tazzhmm so it seems we have a lot of documentation pending for natty.21:17
sheytanHey21:21
sheytananyone with HTC wildefire?21:21

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