[01:58] nixternal: ping [02:59] Daskreech: pong [03:00] nixternal: Would you happen to have any contacts for any lawyers? [03:01] haha, no. why? [03:11] nixternal: I have a friend in slovak doing a law degree and they need some information on punishment choices from the US [03:11] trying to find a lawyer or legal they can make contact with [03:56] oh wow, it's nixternal [03:59] oh wow, it's highvoltage :) [04:01] hi nixternal :) [04:09] nixternal: not sure if it's my imagination, but it just feels like you haven't been around in a while :) [04:09] i haven't been...been hiding [04:22] nixternal: any idea how I can get some Legal's e-mail address? :) [04:23] Daskreech: google :p [04:23] i have no clue [04:23] Hmm they do have legal people! [04:23] * Daskreech wonders the ramifications of hunting down people at Google via google and bugging them on Gtalk [05:14] nixternal: hey, you're back! [05:28] i am always in here, just not always active...or not active at all [05:39] nixternal: yes, yes, that's the point [05:39] nixternal: you're active again :D [06:51] highvoltage: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! [10:31] apachelogger: yes you did [10:42] \o/ http://kde.in/conf/keynotes/ [10:42] kool [10:44] whee lydia is coming :D [10:46] shadeslayer, you didnt know ? [10:47] tazz: she had a talk iirc [10:47] no keynote ... [10:47] yea... i said that because " whee lydia is coming :D" [10:51] hmm [10:51] should i apply for kubuntu dev [11:44] Riddell: ping [11:50] grr, my laptop won't connect to my wireless [11:51] bad laptop, bad wireless [11:51] pong agateau [11:56] agateau: do you have a rotating busywidget for me? :D [11:56] in .gif format :) [11:56] shadeslayer: you be finding minions [11:57] no minions => no chance for kubuntu dev [11:57] apachelogger: tazz !! [11:57] oh my [11:57] apachelogger: tazz is a candidate for minion'ship [11:58] oh and [11:58] apachelogger: what's the name of the star icon that is showed in GHNS push buttons? [11:58] star :P [11:58] *shrug* [11:59] take a look at the GHNS code [11:59] something with like or bookmark I presume [11:59] yeah already looking [11:59] apachelogger: the KDM theme chooser page does not have a icon besides the GHNS push button [12:00] s/page/KCM [12:00] aha [12:00] apachelogger: /usr/share/icons/oxygen/48x48/actions/get-hot-new-stuff.png [12:00] icon of it's own ^_^ [12:05] wa?? [12:06] tazz: you're going to be an elite Kubuntu ninja? [12:07] arigato sensei! [12:18] agateau: doesn't like the new libindicate-qt https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete-message-indicator/0.2.0-0ubuntu3/+buildjob/2246859 [12:20] agateau: likewise https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-message-indicator/0.5.6-0ubuntu5/+buildjob/2246863 [12:27] they shouldn't check for libindicate when they are using libindicate-qt [12:28] apachelogger: want to have a look at a patch for kdm kcm? [12:28] i'm still testbuilding it [12:28] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564401/ [12:33] anyone seen rbelem lately? [12:39] shadeslayer: he pinged me yesterday but didn't stay around for a pong [12:50] rdieter: you're having the same problem of kdebindings on ARM? (does Fedora do ARM?) [12:52] Riddell: I can let you know shortly, been working on getting the qt/kde stack up to snuff on arm over the past week or so. [12:54] ah [12:57] Riddell: do one line changes to got reviewboard as well? [12:58] in the KDM KCM module, GHNS is missing a icon :P [12:58] so i fixed it by passing a KIcon to its constructor [12:59] er. [12:59] shadeslayer: if it is reviewworthy it goes to reviewboard :P [12:59] *do one line changes have to go through reviewboard as well? [12:59] haha [12:59] apachelogger: ok .. then ... hold on a second ^_^ [13:00] 94 % done ... [13:01] \o/ [13:01] apachelogger: Riddell http://paste.ubuntu.com/564416/ [13:04] hm [13:04] shadeslayer: that looks wrong [13:04] isnt there a knewstuffbutton or something like that? [13:06] shadeslayer: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/knewstuff/html/classKNS_1_1Button.html [13:16] nigelb: thanks :) [13:18] * shadeslayer looks [13:18] apachelogger: ah so the Pushbutton itself is wrong [13:18] Riddell: debfx is right, let me fix this [13:18] shadeslayer: hai [13:18] * shadeslayer tries to fix [13:19] i keep dropping off the interwebz [13:20] well [13:20] obviously [13:20] reception must be horrible over in india [13:20] that is considerably far away from big ben [13:21] * apachelogger upps fosdem pix [13:21] * Riddell suspects apachelogger of watching the IT Crowd [13:21] as usual I did forget to take pictures half the time even though I had a plan to just make photos of everything... [13:22] * apachelogger thinks Riddell might be right [13:22] heh [13:27] @_@ [ 70%] [ 72%] [ 72%] [ 72%] /home/shadeslayer/tmp/kde-workspace/kdm/kcm/kdm-theme.cpp:37:29: fatal error: knewstuffbutton.h: No such file or directory [13:27] AHAHAHA Deprecated, use knewstuff3! [13:28] apachelogger: thou art outdated [13:28] shadeslayer: kns3 also got that button [13:36] since 10.10 I have huge rendering issues on my work machine that has an ati card. fglrx driver seems to work, at least glxgears and glxinfo seem to output the expected stuff [13:36] with rendering issues I mean: text overlapping in konsole, sluggish moving of windows, general painting issues when scrolling in various apps (firefox, quassel, ...) [13:36] anyone ever heard of that? [13:36] kwin effects are turned off [13:37] kde 4.6.0 btw [13:37] Riddell: has that been abandoned? I thought there were plans to have a client for Ubuntu One [13:38] Mamarok: apachelogger did it for summer of code but nothing has happened since [13:38] ah, OK [13:39] Mamarok: although one of the ubuntu one guys is a Qt fan and has been saying he'll do a Qt frontend. that's not really the same as KDE integration though [13:39] milian: usual compositing lottery? (see mgrasslin's blog from this week) [13:40] milian: hmm, with compositing off though, dunno, general X crappyness? [13:40] milian: I'd point you at our X people but I suspect they'll only be interested if you're running natty [13:41] maybe - what I also notice: I got dual screen and moving a small window on one of those is generally fast but *very* slow on the other one [13:41] the other painting issues I see on both screens though [13:42] is there a free ati driver that can do dual screens? [13:42] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450] [13:42] so that I could try that? [13:42] maybe it's fglrx that's crappy :-S [13:42] slow moving wouldn't be so bad even if at least text would not be painted wrongly in konsole :-S [13:43] milian: I believe there's about three ATI drivers, but I only know this from mgrasslin's blog [13:44] Riddell: new plasma-widget-message-indicator out [13:44] agateau: yay! [13:50] Riddell: new kopete-message-indicator out as well [13:53] awooga [14:01] Riddell: can you sponsor a few packages? [14:01] debfx: sure [14:02] Riddell: kdemultimedia and kubuntu-default-settings [14:02] and http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/phonon_4.7.0really4.4.4-0ubuntu3.debdiff [14:10] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564463/ [14:11] derp [14:12] one sec [14:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/564464/ [14:21] debfx: what's the significance of the phonon patch? [14:21] Riddell: it makes packages that link against libphonon depend on the phonon package [14:22] which recommends a phonon backend [14:22] hmm [14:23] clever [14:23] debfx: all uploaded [14:23] Riddell: thanks [14:25] agateau: it would be great if you could build libindicate-qt with -fvisibility=hidden in the future [14:25] agateau: though I'm not sure if doing so breaks the ABI [14:26] debfx: mmm... I am no build expert... think you can try a patch? [14:28] agateau: sure [14:28] debfx: great! [14:35] agateau: you "Reworked one of the dialog of the Kubuntu Notification Helper"? that doesn't seem to be in bzr, is there a merge to be done? [14:35] Riddell: I made a merge request, it was merged in by one of the Jonathans [14:36] any ideas how to forward declare knewstuffbutton.h ? ... i used class knewstuffbutton ... didn't work [14:36] shadeslayer: use proper capitalization? :) [14:36] agateau: oh yes, there is it, my mistake [14:36] Riddell / apachelogger : either of you want to take a session at UDW? [14:36] (Ubuntu developer week) [14:37] also ... [14:37] Riddell: can you upload kdegames? Quintasan_ seems to have forgotten about it [14:37] shadeslayer: it's in a namespace [14:37] we don't want upstream breathing down our necks [14:37] shadeslayer: you must do it like this: [14:37] oh [14:37] shadeslayer: namespace KNS3 { class Button; } [14:37] agateau: one sec :) [14:38] agateau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/564477/ [14:38] since bGetNewThemes is in the header, i need to modify that as well [14:38] shadeslayer: is there a question attached with this paste? [14:38] shadeslayer: doing [14:38] oh ok :) [14:39] :D [14:39] shadeslayer: just add the snippet I wrote to kdm-theme.h it should be ok [14:39] ok [14:40] shadeslayer: but the code in kdm-theme.cpp looks very wrong [14:40] shadeslayer: you are declaring a new local "bGetNewThemes" var instead of initializing the one from the class [14:45] [1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D[1;3D95 [14:45] what the.. [14:45] sorry [14:45] * agateau detected a cat on a keyboard [14:46] More like a paste [14:46] cats have a more /dev/random function [14:46] its just irssi spitting nonsense [14:47] haha [14:47] whee [14:47] agateau: thanks agateau :) [14:47] Daskreech: indeed [14:47] shadeslayer: you're welcome [14:47] \o/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/564485/ [14:48] i have to get up, walk to the end of the other room and manually reset the router everytime i lost my interwebzx [14:48] -x [14:48] done that ... about ... 9 times already [14:57] shadeslayer: would you be able to put kdegames into kubuntu-ppa/backports too? upstream was asking [14:57] yep .. will do [14:58] Would anyone happen to have an e-mail for any legals? [14:59] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/4330 << can that go into KDE Trunk? :) [15:02] shadeslayer: I would say so, you should check with ossi, who's on #kde-devel [15:02] shadeslayer: be careful, ossi is... difficult sometimes :) [15:02] ok [15:03] agateau: thanks for the tip :) [15:16] nigelb: when is that? [15:16] apachelogger: last week of feb [15:16] apachelogger: you can pick an empty slot from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable#preview [15:16] erm minus the preview bit [15:17] shadeslayer: looks good [15:17] except that the patch is incomplete [15:17] also bugged [15:17] + KNS3::Button* bGetNewThemes = new KNS3::Button(i18nc("@action:button", "&Get New Themes"), "kdm.knsrc" , this); [15:18] what you are doing there is overriding the member bGetNewThemes [15:18] thus the member will not ever be set and dangle until the kcm crashes thanks to the ptr [15:18] dude [15:18] agateau: http://paste.kde.org/4330 [15:18] erm [15:18] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/4330 [15:18] madness [15:19] still incompletel [15:19] O_O [15:19] the old qpushbutton surely had further magic attached, magic that is now handled by the button [15:19] e.g. I would suppose the newstuffbutton does the downloaddialog stuff... [15:20] no [15:21] KSN has a seprate header for download dialogs [15:21] and i haz the apporoval of ossi :P [15:22] apachelogger: still interested? [15:22] ... [15:22] shadeslayer: my leg also has its own header [15:23] @_@ [15:23] that still does not prevent me from using it [15:23] ... [15:23] nigelb: I dont have time that week it would seem [15:24] apachelogger: aw :( [15:24] Mamarok: there is an ubuntu one client [15:24] and it does not work with KDE [15:25] which is a bug and should be reported as such, if that did not happen yet [15:25] ^_^ [15:25] likely no one reported that because they are all whiny about not getting a kde ui [15:27] Riddell: switched to radeon driver, now the issues are gone - seems like fglrx is pretty broken for my card in 10.10 [15:27] anywasy, good news that the foss drivers are working so good now [15:29] milian: X is such a lottery really :( [15:29] hi rbelem [15:30] * apachelogger does the wayland dance [15:30] apachelogger: hah [15:30] apachelogger: i see 3 instances of bGetNewThemes [15:31] one of them is the allocation of bGetNewThemes to the heap, the second adds it to the main window and the 3rd is the connect for when it is clicked [15:31] wah? [15:31] instances as in ... uses :P [15:31] ah [15:31] yeah [15:31] so [15:31] so imo it doesn't need further poking [15:31] question is, why do you tell me? :P [15:31] * apachelogger notes that by now he also looked at the file [15:31] shadeslayer: it does [15:31] and that is not even my opinion :P [15:31] it just does [15:31] heh [15:32] i don't see what i can do further :S [15:32] well [15:33] since there are only 3 uses one of them must be the bogus [15:36] wha [15:37] how is one of them bogus? all of the uses look sane [15:39] look at the knewstuffbutton.cpp and say that again [15:39] looking [15:40] i still don't see it [15:40] * apachelogger just fell asleep while reading [15:40] oh my [15:41] shadeslayer: did you test your change? [15:41] * shadeslayer gives apachelogger a unicorn to keep him company [15:41] as in: runtime test [15:41] no ... :S [15:41] do that [15:42] then you will see why your change is incomplete [15:42] ok [15:43] cloning is going to be a PITA [15:43] building even more so [16:35] agateau: http://paste.kde.org/4336/ [16:36] debfx: nice, thanks! [16:37] debfx: will review tomorrow [16:37] (busy busy right now) [16:47] Riddell: bug 713790 [16:47] Launchpad bug 713790 in libktorrent (Ubuntu) "Sync libktorrent 1.0.5-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713790 [16:48] did ScottK response for any concerncs? [16:48] uh ok [16:48] dcmtk was updated [16:48] * shadeslayer looks [16:49] and p.d.o looks much better now [16:55] shadeslayer: what is p.d.o? [16:55] ari-tczew: packages.debian.org :D [16:56] shadeslayer: I don't see any difference. [16:56] Riddell: rekonq 0.7 alpha out today, might want to keep a eye on that :) [16:56] ari-tczew: sorry? [16:56] shadeslayer: you wrote p.d.o looks better, why? [16:57] ah [16:57] ari-tczew: new theme etc [16:57] shadeslayer: so I wrote: I don't see any difference. [17:01] shadeslayer: nevermind, I forgot packages.debian.org with PTS [17:01] s/forgot/mistake [17:02] :) [17:16] rekonq 0.7 Alpha 1 tagged === dpm_ is now known as dpm [17:37] ScottK: around? [17:38] http://paste.kde.org/4341 << DSO Linking ... and i can't make head or tails of the debian wiki page [17:41] hah [17:42] Quintasan_: and you thought SIP was a problem, go look at dcmtk [17:57] i'm taking a break ... cya [18:05] rbelem: ping [18:16] afiestas: pong [19:11] Riddell: Thanks for the sync [19:11] shadeslayer: that dcmtk package is seriously broken [19:24] agateau: I take it kubuntu_02_fix_text_overlap_in_systemtray.diff can be removed from plasma-widget-message-indicator now? [19:24] bug 632419 [19:24] Launchpad bug 632419 in plasma-widget-indicatordisplay (Ubuntu) "Hiden items in systray are not well arranged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/632419 [20:05] shadeslayer: yeah? then do SIP for project-neon [20:07] shadeslayer: ping [20:08] Quintasan_: ping [20:08] pong [20:08] apachelogger: ^ === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [20:08] Quintasan_: you be talking about nightly builds using launchpad at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable [20:08] please select a time slot [20:09] I will be talking as in I'm in no position to refuse? [20:09] shadeslayer: ping [20:09] Quintasan: exactly [20:09] debfx: ping [20:09] apachelogger: pongpong [20:09] debfx: you be talking about kubuntu development at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable [20:09] please select a slot [20:09] o_O [20:10] debfx: also you need a minion to become kubuntu dev ... :P [20:11] apachelogger: Firday 4th @ 19 UTC seems to be okay [20:11] Quintasan: groovy, just add yourself :) [20:11] apachelogger: You want me to talk about Project Neon or about nightly builds in general [20:12] Quintasan: general would be better, but with neon as example [20:12] apachelogger: I will add it as (not confirmed) since I dont know if I'll be going anywhere then [20:12] so one has practical stuff to hold on to [20:12] Quintasan: maybe you should use another slot then? [20:12] ..or when will you know? [20:12] apachelogger: tomorrow [20:12] ah, fair enough [20:13] where is jt? [20:13] What is where? [20:13] producing faulty software and then hiding -.- [20:14] Quintasan: jontheechidna [20:14] Oh, I guess he hid just to annoy you [20:14] probably [20:15] hmm, I will have to prepare it next week [20:15] sounds reasonable [20:15] well then, back to pretending that I am doing my homework properlly [20:16] ^^ [20:18] Provided that one school year is around 290 days and one day of pretending gives me 1 skill point then I already have 4900+ [20:18] Next stop, OVER 9000 [20:21] I need a dollar, a dollar is all I need [20:21] If you don't have a dollar then how do you pay ur internet bill? [20:22] well [20:23] we do not haz dollars in the union of europe and mars [20:23] So why the hell do you need a dollar? [20:25] coz I was sining!!! [20:27] debfx: do you have a slot yet? [20:27] * apachelogger git adds Quintasan by mistake [20:27] how the hell you can add me to git? [20:27] * Quintasan is not translateable into binary [20:28] everyone is!!! [20:29] lolwut [20:29] I'm off [20:29] good luck adding me to git [20:35] apachelogger: no thanks, i'll pass on that [20:35] debfx: why? [20:35] I needz you :/ [21:17] hmm so it seems we have a lot of documentation pending for natty. [21:21] Hey [21:21] anyone with HTC wildefire?