[02:32] <lucent> agh, missed my log
[06:41] <coz_> hey all
[07:58] <leagris> Please, can you reproduce/test this bug with compiz ezoom? Using gnome classic desktop (no unity for radeon 9200) Dose someone else here can confirm bug 706803, or test it? It really need momentum as it appeared 3weeks ago and is not fixed. I can't imagine 11.04 coming out with such problem.
[10:49] <susundberg> Hello! I am having issues with my WLAN driver. Before reporting bug i wanted to check the latest GIT kernel if the issue persist. Is there an easy way to compile only some kernel modules (drivers/net/wireless/rt2X00/*) ?
[10:49] <susundberg> and against the current kernel
[13:30] <smittix> Hi all, Does Unity stop you using the desktop how you would now?
[13:30] <smittix> I know it's different but can you still do normal tasks ie; Folders & shortcuts on the desktop?
[13:38] <sidnei> smittix, you can choose 'Ubuntu Desktop Classic' (or something like that) during login if you want to avoid unity
[13:38] <sidnei> smittix, not sure if that answers your question
[13:50] <smittix> sidnei: Kind of, thanks! Im not sure the Desktop Classic option has much of a future though as i bet they will phase that out.
[13:50] <smittix> I Guess i need to just try unity myself and see if I like it.
[13:50] <smittix> What does everyone here think of it so far?
[13:51] <sidnei> it doesn't work for me yet, because i have nvidia graphics and the driver isn't released yet. but there's a unity 2d ppa which supposedly work if that's the case for you.
[13:57] <smittix> sidnei: I ATI
[13:57] <smittix> sorry
[13:57] <smittix> I meant i have ATI
[13:58] <om26er> smittix, you desktop works as it works in classic session
[13:58] <om26er> *your
[14:00] <smittix> om26er: But just with added extras?
[14:00] <smittix> Heh i was all worried in case i didnt like it and id have to find a new wm to use
[14:01] <om26er> the launcher and the panel replaces gnome-panel the desktop is still being drawn by nautilus
[14:43] <smittix> Well just tried unity
[14:43] <smittix> Looks ok actually
[15:02] <genii-around> latest update for kubuntu amd64 breaks quassel, the default irc client
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> hey guys
[15:44] <rork> hi ActionParsnip
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Is everyone else not getting a scrollbar in the list applications button in Unity?
[15:47] <DrHalan> is alpha2 with the old gnome-session as unstable as unity?
[15:49] <robin0800> DrHalan, not for me using metacity as compiz dose not work
[15:49] <DrHalan> really? why not?
[15:50] <robin0800> DrHalan, it just crashes here and is unable to set the right resolution for the laptop display
[15:51] <DrHalan> okay
[15:51] <DrHalan> usually ubuntu is pretty stable at alpha2 already
[15:52] <DrHalan> especially considering that this is not a post-lts release
[15:54] <robin0800> DrHalan, I think this might be at the bottom of all my problems "OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV350"
[15:55] <DrHalan> oh oaky
[15:55] <DrHalan> maybe you have to wait until you can use fglrx again
[15:56] <robin0800> DrHalan, I think this might be at the bottom of all my problems "OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV350"
[15:57] <robin0800> DrHalan, can't use fglrx since 8.03 won't install on rv350 now
[16:04] <DrHalan> robin0800: you cant use it because natty uses xserver1.10
[16:08] <patdk-wk> hmm, we are on 2.6.38 now
[16:08] <robin0800> DrHalan, The Nouveau driver has worked ok in the past but Think Compiz hasn't yet caught up with gallium
[16:09] <DrHalan> robin0800: you are using radeon drivers aren't you?
[16:22] <robin0800> DrHalan, Gallium is the new radeon driver
[16:23] <DrHalan> robin0800: gallium is a OpenGL implementation used by some drivers of the xserver
[16:24] <robin0800> DrHalan, but its installed by default here and I'm not sure I can change it?
[16:25] <DrHalan> no its used by radeon by default
[16:25] <DrHalan> you should look up if your card is supported by the opensource drivers
[16:26] <robin0800> DrHalan, It has always said yes but they don't work and not available in jockey
[16:29] <Daekdroom> Gallium is used by radeon drivers by default from r300 to r500 cards.
[16:30] <robin0800> Daekdroom, I know but can you change it?
[16:30] <Daekdroom> robin0800, yes
[16:30] <robin0800> Daekdroom, how?
[16:31] <Daekdroom> robin0800, what card model?
[16:32] <robin0800> Daekdroom, OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV350
[16:32] <Daekdroom> That means you're using Gallium. Do you want to -not- use it?
[16:33] <robin0800> Daekdroom, Compiz won't work nicely with it
[16:33] <Daekdroom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/564535/
[16:33] <Daekdroom> But that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:34] <Daekdroom> But change "True" to "False"
[16:34] <Daekdroom> *Put
[16:35] <robin0800> Daekdroom, Thanks I'll try that
[16:45] <robin0800> Daekdroom, Yes it works and compiz is ok again
[17:44] <graingert> is nvidia usable yet?
[17:51] <graingert> I'll take that as a no :(
[18:13] <coz_> no change in the nvidia issue?
[18:14] <Andre_Gondim> my firefox don't save tabs is it correct?
[18:15] <coz_> Andre_Gondim,  i couldnt tell you  I am using firefox 3  instead of 4
[18:15]  * yofel used 4 daily but with session manager
[18:15] <yofel> and no, no nvidia driver yet
[18:15]  * saby is installing Natty atm so cant say anything
[18:15] <yofel> you can also join #nvidia - they have the current driver versions in the topic
[18:16] <coz_> yofel,  nah thanks :)   no biggie  just checking
[18:16]  * yofel waits desperately...
[18:16] <coz_> I also notice that the kubuntu-full is not removing nvidia-common  just the 173 and 96 modaliases
[18:16] <yofel> the modaliases are deprecated, common is not
[18:17] <coz_> yofel,  I keep an older natty daily disc on hand for such occasions :)
[18:17] <yofel> well, I had an older natty installation which I'm running currently, nouveau is a disaster here
[18:18] <coz_> yofel,  i think fedora is one that is usually on the cutting edge of video   I would assume nouveau works well on that
[18:18] <yofel> you misunderstood me, nouveau is fine on my desktop, it just doesn't like my notebook card
[18:18] <coz_> oh !
[18:19] <yofel> I can use my desktop fine, but when I use it on my notebook I can't work for an hour before the GPU locks up
[18:20] <coz_> yofel,  oh man  that sounds like a pain
[18:20] <yofel> if I even get that far, you really can't work with that, so back on old X with nvidia for now
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Andre_Gondim: save tabs how? my seems to, with firefox 4.0b11
[18:41] <Andre_Gondim> charlie-tca, when I close ff 4b11, when I open it  again my tab aren't still there
[18:44] <charlie-tca> well, that was not the thing to try, huh? Now I got to sign into everything and open my 40 tabs for bugs again
[18:46] <charlie-tca> Andre_Gondim: at least I confirmed that issue for you
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Andre_Gondim:  from chrisccoulson: you need to go to History -> Restore Previous Session
[18:51] <Andre_Gondim> charlie-tca, I will try, thank you
[18:51] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that sucks. we might change that behaviour
[18:51] <charlie-tca> thanks, chrisccoulson
[18:51]  * charlie-tca thinks that went the long way around to get to here
[18:52] <Machtin> soo.. topic tells me that nvidia-current is broken. when will it work again?
[18:52] <Daekdroom> Who knows.
[18:52] <bjsnider> when nvidia releases a driver update
[18:52] <Machtin> ah. fair enough.
[18:53] <Machtin> nouveau's somehow b0rked for me.
[18:59] <chrisccoulson> charlie-tca, http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/home.png
[18:59] <chrisccoulson> (that's the default firefox homepage, which has a nice restore button)
[19:00] <charlie-tca> so the trick is to set it to show the firefox homepage when starting and then restore session ?
[19:06] <saby> hmm, Compiz keeps crashing in Desktop Edition
[20:47] <DaveD0101> Hello all.  It seems that the icon in the notification area for my network settings has disappeared.  I've tried reinstalling gnome-network-manager, and am digging around in gconf, but haven't figured out what's going on.  Any ideas?
[20:51] <DaveD0101> sorry, network-manager-gnome
[20:51] <DaveD0101> and restarted.  still no applet
[21:39] <Q-FUNK> I was just wondering if someone who knows GDM internals could look at bug #713768 ?
[21:41] <Daekdroom> Q-FUNK, have you tried changing the session type?
[21:44] <Q-FUNK> Daekdroom: I cannot change anything until a user is selected.  none of the usual menus appear on the bottom panel.
[21:51] <Q-FUNK> normally, the menu options to change the session locale or the session type would appear right after the user has been selected from the face browser.
[22:02] <BUGabundo> yo friends :D
[22:02] <Q-FUNK> hey :)
[23:00] <tzanger> good evening
[23:01] <tzanger> just a quick question regarding natty... so far it's been great and I'm excited to help test it
[23:01] <tzanger> I've been using gpg-agent and ssh keys for years now... with natty though it seems terribly broken.
[23:02] <tzanger> I've updated from 10.10, which was updated from 10.04 on this particular machine.  it was working great in 10.10 but now even though I see the agent running and see the environment variable, the agent doesn't seem to get invoked.  ssh will ask for the key's passphrase on the CLI instead of using the pin agent
[23:03] <tzanger> /etc/alternatives/pinagent correctly links to /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4, and /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4 runs
[23:04] <tzanger> is there anything specific I should be looking for to help track down the trouble?