[00:00] how do i hit aply/ [00:00] Alternative install right? [00:00] apply [00:00] yea [00:00] text mode install [00:00] from ubuntu 10.10 dvd [00:00] There's e: Exit something: Apply in the bottom [00:03] yea.. [00:03] idk how to get there [00:03] i tried shift 1 [00:03] it looks like it applied [00:04] is that all? [00:07] do i quit now? === zkriesse is now known as Zoda === Zoda is now known as zkriesse [00:37] would i just quit Zoda? [00:37] *zkriesse [00:38] I have no idea man [00:38] I've not done the minimal install before [00:38] oh [00:38] So I don't wanna say anything for fear of messing you up [00:38] ... [00:40] i just quit [00:40] atpitude [01:04] aveilleux: prod [01:05] whats teh metal taht is easy to melt and stars witha p [01:05] shawn146: erm, what? [01:06] somethign we used in shop class in middle school [01:06] i forgot the name of it [01:06] there's Pb -- lead [01:06] but I bet you don't use that [01:06] shawn146: what did you do with it? [01:06] paultag: pong [01:07] use low power pots [01:07] aveilleux: someone in -dev was asking about accessibility, figured I'd poke you [01:07] to metl the P something and it pours into clay molds like fancy chess pieces [01:07] *melt [01:07] paultag: What about accessibility? Not really my forte [01:07] and solidifies very fast [01:08] aveilleux: oh crap, who was I confusing you with [01:08] shawn146: pewter? [01:08] an yes [01:08] thank you [01:08] Billg: just a moment [01:08] *ah [01:09] * JackyAlcine is drowning in blueprints, translations and hundreds of lines of codes. [01:09] Gah! [01:09] Billg: the person I thought was on the acc team turns out not to be here. I totally screwed up. I'd try #ubuntu-accessibility :( [01:10] JackyAlcine: take a deep breath [01:10] :) [01:11] * JackyAlcine inhales [01:11] * JackyAlcine chokes on a segmentation fault. [01:11] eh oh, segfault? [01:11] no bueno [01:11] http://xkcd.com/371/ [01:12] haha [01:12] thats awesome [01:12] that's something that gets bookmarked. :D [01:12] indeed [01:13] JackyAlcine: what are you working on ? [01:13] https://www.launchpad.net/cmusphinx-train [01:14] Originally, I was using Qt, but my head adviser wanted 100% ATK, so I moved to GTKmm. [01:14] And RefPtrs are NOT meant to be made global; gah. [01:15] JackyAlcine: aye [01:15] JackyAlcine: Top Contributors: Jack Alcine 37 points :) [01:16] :D [01:17] Jacky I am workin on a p2p client [01:17] that pulls its search results from frostwire, and emule [01:17] and maybe limewire [01:17] gunndawg: So it's a GNUtella client [01:17] aveilleux: essentially, yes [01:18] gunndawg: That sounds superhandy. [01:18] Probably even more increased download/upload speeds, no? [01:18] JackyAlcine: I dont know how it will turn out, yet, we'll see ;) [01:19] if I can tap emules, and frostwires pipes without having to authenticate with them, then yes, it should be a bit quicker [01:19] gunndawg: Can't you connect to the networks directly and save the piping? [01:20] aveilleux: yeah but thats no fun ;) [01:20] gunndawg: And more legal... [01:21] aveilleux: bah, thats the boring way ;) [01:29] Question, Wich is beter openbox or fluxbox? [01:30] distort3d: given my own personal distort3d view, fluxbox [01:31] Ok thanks. [01:32] distort3d: fluxbox is much more user-friendly. [01:32] hmm [01:33] do i need Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (instance)? [01:34] for what shawn146 ? [01:34] for nothing [01:37] shawn146: do you need it for nothing? I guess not [01:51] gksu doesnt work in fluxbox? === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [01:52] why would update manager not allow me to update something? It shows an update, but won't let me check the box. [01:53] try in terminal [01:53] sudo apt-get upgrade [01:54] what is it used fir>' [01:54] *for [01:55] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/564169/ [01:55] it's for docky. [01:56] ok... so i can run current devel release as main work enviroment by doing sudo update-manager -d? [01:56] johnny77: try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [01:56] no i mean Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (instance) [01:57] JoeMaverickSett: why did that work? [01:58] johnny77: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/18330 <-- this explains it better than i could [02:00] johnny77: and you could "man apt-get" and scroll down to "dist-upgrade" section shall explain you more. :) [02:01] what is Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (instance) [02:02] shawn146: It's like Ubuntu One, but for business. [02:02] or other large-scale commerical computing needs. [02:02] oh [02:03] so nothing that iw oud use [02:03] shawn146: Perhaps. [02:04] ok [02:04] what aout DNS server? [02:04] *about [02:05] shawn146: What kind of machine is this? [02:06] its a toshiba satellite [02:06] laptop [02:06] odler [02:06] like when XP was mainline [02:07] shawn146: I have a Toshiba Satellite but its a new one :) [02:08] shawn146: No, I mean what are you using it for. Desktop use? A Web server? [02:10] installing ubuntu on it for a froemd [02:10] *friend [02:11] shawn146: That doesn't answer my question.... so, desktop use? [02:11] yea [02:11] mroe or less [02:11] for browseign [02:12] and him to learn to use [02:12] shawn146: You don't need any of the things you're talking about then [02:21] 02:12 <+aveilleux> shawn146: You don't need any of the things you're talking about then [02:21] Oh jeez [02:21] damn mouse [02:21] shawn146: aveilleux knows a ton, don't get on her case, dude [02:21] shawn146: and she's here on her time working to help people like you [02:21] shawn146: so cut her some slack, mang [02:22] paultag: Get on... whose case [02:22] did I miss something? [02:22] Oh holy jesus christ [02:22] aveilleux: shawn146: sorry dudes, I'm drunk. I thought you ( shawn146 ) were giving aveilleux crap [02:22] I did not read that [02:22] * paultag goes away [02:23] my bad, sorry shawn146 [02:23] carry on [02:23] geezum crow [02:23] my bad! my bad! [02:24] lol paultag, no harm no foul [02:25] lol, why are you on IRC if you're drunk? [02:26] JackyAlcine: dude, it's fun as fuck [02:26] lol, I think running around Manhattan's upper side at 3 in the morning is as fun as that. :D [02:26] language | paultag [02:26] er [02:26] !language | paultag [02:26] paultag: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [02:27] paultag: this isn't -team :P [02:27] lol. it isn't. [02:27] noted duly :) [02:27] random: I might go to the UDS-0 [02:28] Don't drink and paultag kids. See what happens when you do :P [02:28] my /dev now shows sd[a-h][1-15] anyone have this issue before [02:29] gpc: :P [02:30] HoboSteaux: Like one file called sd[a-h][1-15]? [02:30] no, separate instances [02:30] HoboSteaux: That's normal. [02:31] I believe. [02:31] not on any of my other nix boxes [02:31] hm, wait that isn't. [02:31] ive never seen 120 sdX's before [02:31] i only have that with ram [1-15] [02:31] :P [02:31] What drives do you have installed? [02:31] 1 drive, it was perfectly stable for 3 months [02:32] its over usb [02:32] looks like a scrambled egg [02:32] * JackyAlcine has a dark past with external hard drives. **shudders** [02:32] heh [02:33] hmm [02:33] But yes, a scrambled egg indeed, although I'm not sure as to why that's happening. [02:33] ok sorry back [02:34] someone suggested bad interface, i know its not the HD (tried on other comps) [02:34] perhaps. [02:35] ive had limeted success with resetting [02:42] which one of these do i need?http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n436/shawn146/100_1631.jpg [02:43] shawn146: for a normal use, i don't think you need a DNS, LAMP and mail servers ? [02:44] shawn146: None of hem except Ubuntu Desktop [02:44] shawn146: Why are you using the server installation disc? [02:45] i'm not [02:45] i am using a dvd [02:45] shawn146: ....why are you using a DVD then\\ [02:45] sicne dvd+rw's are my last hope [02:45] shawn146: why are you trying to install ubuntu server ? [02:45] of installing [02:45] i'm not [02:45] just select desktop & openssh, deselect rest [02:45] i looked for ubuntu 32-bit dvd download [02:45] this is an older machine [02:46] is this really server? [02:46] shawn146: Yes, that's the server installation [02:46] what [02:46] why a DVD? it would have worked with just a CD. [02:46] shawn146: Why are you using a DVD? You can burn a CD ISO to a DVD. [02:46] i just selected a different install mode for Ubuntu 10.10 [02:47] good point, but the standard iso need to be on a DV also so why not burn a full DVD with the DVD image :P [02:47] i tried that aveilleux and nero would not permit it [02:47] so i spent 40 minutes downlloading and burning [02:47] i want to get ubuntu on this [02:48] my friend needs his laptop tomorrow ;/ [02:48] shawn146: ...then don't use Nero, it's a terrible program [02:48] i ahve tried Image burn too [02:48] shawn146: Imgburn should have let you [02:48] its looking for the correct disc format for the iso [02:56] woot i found my mobile phone nokia 1011 i lost it years ago [02:58] it was one of the first mobile phones, maybe they can unlock it now :| [03:06] hmm [03:06] i am stuck >.< [03:06] idk what to do know [03:07] i installed ubuntu to a flash drive so i can take it to school but i have no gui [03:07] is it possible to boot the cd iso off of a dvd? [03:08] tool88: what machine? i would look at the graphics card [03:08] hey holstein [03:08] maybe make an xorg.conf that uses vesa [03:08] shawn146: o/ :) [03:08] its my acer that im using a crt [03:08] i wasnt sure if i did something wrong [03:09] tool88: i wouldnt rule it out ;) [03:09] the boot screen looks like the recovery sscreen [03:09] tool88: i am assuming several things [03:09] tool88: Graphics card, not monitor [03:09] that you actually installed something with a desktop [03:09] yeah im not ruling out operator error [03:09] using the normal live CD [03:09] or whatever [03:10] tool88: you could get a live CD [03:10] or USB [03:10] at boot, hit shift [03:10] then F6 [03:10] then use the nomodeset setting [03:10] tried that [03:10] IF this were a USB stick i wanted to just boot in any machine [03:11] i would probably force vesa driver [03:11] tool88: do tell.. [03:11] ok didnt try that sorry but ill give it a shot [03:11] yeah === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [03:11] im not a crazy savy X guy [03:12] so, sometimes, i try a knoppix disc [03:12] and grab the xorg.conf from there [03:12] ok back [03:12] is it possible? [03:12] if it is i want ot try it xD [03:12] yeah i wanted to take it to school as the computers arnt really mine till i graduate [03:13] ok well you threw a bunch of things at me im going to have to google [03:13] shawn146: you can burn a DVD [03:13] with the cd iso [03:13] *should be able to [03:13] how [03:13] its tough leaving a windows world [03:13] i am going to try this on anotehr dvd+rw [03:13] tool88: try going back after a while [03:13] thats tougher [03:13] shawn146: just fire it up, and cook it [03:14] ok [03:14] i threw another one in [03:14] unetbootin will do it [03:14] yeah, unet dont care [03:14] always burn your disk at lowest speed [03:14] lowest? [03:14] * holstein throws caution to the wind ;) [03:15] 1x? [03:15] that would take days [03:15] lol maybe not that low [03:16] if its a rw, you can always re-try it [03:16] yea :/ [03:16] that takes time too though [03:16] 56x? [03:16] 4x should go through [03:16] time is what i do not have :( [03:16] UNetBootIn doesn't burn to disc [03:16] how long though [03:16] It writes an ISO to a Flash drive [03:17] just like win to flash [03:17] aveilleux: i believe the speeds we are disussing is not in relation to unet [03:17] are not* [03:17] shawn146: you know what aveilleux means right? [03:17] no i brought that up for the flash boot [03:18] no [03:18] * gunndawg makes a sad face [03:18] unet has never asked me what speed to move the data over [03:18] just read a few articles about how linux is slowly dying out [03:18] hi madsailor [03:18] gunndawg: you want me to link some to the contrary ;) [03:18] holstein: please do [03:19] gunndawg: You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet [03:19] I have read like 3 or 4 diff articles today about how linux is slowly dying out, etc [03:19] linux is like that, simultaneouly dying out, and growing [03:19] is that sarcasm i think its at easiest its ever been [03:19] aveilleux: I dont [03:19] hey gunndawg, how's chromium treating you tonight? [03:19] all those linux kernels on the android phones [03:19] madsailor: its hit or miss I suppose [03:19] what? [03:19] linux is not dying [03:19] its opensource [03:19] big communities [03:19] yeah, linux is not a buisness like that [03:20] to 'dye out' [03:20] shawn146: that doesnt matter, its support is dying out and moving to windows [03:20] as long as there are cheap people in this world linux has spot [03:20] http://www.devside.net/articles/ubuntu-linux-dying [03:20] support in buntu is way better [03:20] all the time [03:20] what [03:20] gunndawg: Of course a site about .NET will say that Linux is dying [03:20] you cant say support is moving to windows [03:20] gunndawg: Its entire market is based around Windows [03:21] that support never left windows [03:21] well i am not moving to micro$oft winblows [03:21] :) [03:21] might be true that 90 percent of buisnes use windows [03:21] wpow [03:21] that is not right [03:21] but main servers are using linux unix [03:21] bill gates is basically buying their lives [03:21] yeah [03:21] gunndawg, would you mind trying some plymouth themes that I made since I have only verified them at my resolution (since I know you are now a plymouth & theme master ;))) [03:22] madsailor: surely [03:23] they're at https://github.com/madsailor/XBMC-Plymouth-Bootsplash-Screens...you can download a tar or zip from the downloads button on the right of the page [03:23] appreciate it [03:24] gunndawg: Whoever wrote that article seems to forget that Canonical offers paid support [03:25] gunndawg: and... Mark Shuttleworth paid to go into space... he's freaking rich [03:25] and, thats not the goal [03:25] to sell desktop support [03:25] the app store, and ubuntu one are attempts to be marketable [03:25] good ones too [03:26] im sure better than xandros ever was [03:26] google is the last and biggest critical force on the market. Without google there would be even less open source and linux, imo [03:26] eh [03:27] google doesnt really create all that much open source [03:28] yeah but there are still doubts as to whether they are the good guys or not [03:28] they run a buisness [03:28] good or bad aint going to ever be a part of it [03:28] seems to be OK for us though [03:28] so far [03:28] so do i need to write at 56x? [03:28] and just think how safe all your stuff will be on a cloud os [03:28] To put this in perspective. [03:28] yeah gut in regards to the competition there's no doubt left [03:29] Google is the FOSS world's only hope of toppling Microsoft. [03:29] oracle, microsoft, ibm, sony, etc [03:29] shawn146: i wouldnt sweat the speed [03:29] IF you have problems, slow it down [03:29] oh ok lol [03:29] collinp: hehe, agreed [03:29] so AWS is fine? [03:29] And Microsoft is falling. Slowly, but it is. [03:30] collinp: poor them ;) [03:30] google's credo is "don't be evil" [03:30] whether they follow it or not [03:31] id say linux in general still has some catching up to ms with the ease part [03:31] tool88: well that goes without saying, of course [03:31] madsailor: yeah? im pretty sure the credo is 'sell advertising' [03:31] tool88: im not sure about that [03:31] depending on hardware [03:32] i find it a lot easier to install buntu [03:32] holstein: so do I [03:32] with all the drivers we have in the kernel [03:32] modular [03:32] too easy [03:32] ? [03:32] best case scenario with windows [03:32] holstein, what they say, not necessarily what they do [03:32] you have on of those driver discs [03:32] I am having an issue with Ubuntu x64 iso.Would anyone be able to help [03:32] oh hell i am just gonna try it [03:33] shawn146: cook it [03:33] warlock_: whats up? [03:33] i had problems with the 64 the 32 works perfect [03:33] If Linux is going anywhere, we _have_ to get commercial support, no matter how much we like it. [03:33] collinp: agreed [03:34] of course, the question is, does linux need to 'go anywhere' [03:34] ? [03:34] i think it would be great [03:34] but i can understand the arguments about keeping it small and niche [03:34] with the track linux is on id say its just starting [03:35] Device Not Ready (Logical Unit not ready, Operation in progress) [03:35] dang [03:35] than it stops [03:36] wat do i do [03:37] shawn146: dumb question but I figure I'll ask. Do you have hardware that supports 64bit ? [03:37] this laptop [03:37] but not myfriends [03:38] i downlaoded the 32-bit desktop version also [03:38] but its not burning on my DVD+RW [03:38] do you have any media? [03:38] shawn146: might wanna make sure it supports 64bit before trying to install a 64bit OS [03:38] or use windows image burner [03:39] am i saying 64-bit? [03:40] shawn146: I was confusing you with someone else [03:40] shawn146: show it who's boss [03:40] :) [03:40] ? [03:40] you want to burn an iso, burn an iso [03:40] those rw's are strange sometimes [03:40] what program you using shawn [03:40] ive had mixed luck with them [03:41] i had better luck with gnomebaker [03:41] if memory serves [03:41] IMGburn [03:42] shawn146, if you are really having trouble with your burner and have a spare USB pen drive you can use it to install instead [03:42] i am on windows atm [03:42] and i have tried usb alreayd [03:42] are you on w7? [03:42] ahh..ok [03:42] my friends laptop doesn't support usb boot [03:42]