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| bcurtiswx | nigelb, so why the dislike towards SVN? :P | 15:14 |
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| nigelb | bcurtiswx: I like git :D | 15:14 |
| nigelb | bcurtiswx: and generally, dvcs | 15:14 |
| bcurtiswx | nigelb, ah i guess i've used all before and have gotten used to the differences for the most part | 15:14 |
| nigelb | bcurtiswx: yeah, I've used all of them at some point | 15:15 |
| nigelb | bcurtiswx: oh btw, want to talk about upstreaming bugs at UDW? | 15:15 |
| * nigelb is in recruitment mode | 15:15 | |
| bcurtiswx | what day | 15:16 |
| nigelb | bcurtiswx: pick an empty slot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable#preview | 15:16 |
| nigelb | bcurtiswx: final decision? :) | 15:31 |
| bcurtiswx | nigelb, i'm thinkin :) | 15:32 |
| nigelb | hehe | 15:33 |
| nigelb | bcurtiswx: feel free to team up with pedro or hggdh or charlie-tca :D | 15:33 |
| hggdh | heh | 15:34 |
| nigelb | the very subtle form of recruitment ;) | 15:35 |
| bcurtiswx | any of you want to do a session on "Bugs: Head to Dead. | 15:35 |
| bcurtiswx | " | 15:35 |
| bcurtiswx | maybe two sessions worth | 15:35 |
| bcurtiswx | OK, maybe that was a bad play on words | 15:36 |
| bcurtiswx | Where we triage a couple bugs live, from NEW to Triaged | 15:37 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh gets the interest with the obvious public attraction, and i just get to stamp my name on it. how about it :P | 15:39 |
| charlie-tca | Do you really want to start at "New" if you are talking to developers? | 15:39 |
| bcurtiswx | charlie-tca, good point. | 15:40 |
| bcurtiswx | but how well do devs understand our triaging techniques? | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | bcurtiswx: valid point, too. Some do, perhaps most do not? | 15:41 |
| bcurtiswx | charlie-tca, i don't know. | 15:43 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh, charlie-tca, bdmurray: Would a "Bug Triage: NEW to TRIAGED" really benefit dev's in your own opinions | 15:45 |
| bdmurray | bcurtiswx: that seems more appropriate for open week | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | A developer working his bugs doesn't really care what our steps are. If they can fix the bug, it could jump from New to Fixed in one step | 15:48 |
| bcurtiswx | nigelb, i think that best sums up that. Sorry :) | 15:50 |
| nigelb | bcurtiswx: well, you could always talk about upstreams and their importance ;) | 15:50 |
| bdmurray | One thing I've talked about in the past is how to get better quality bug reports | 15:51 |
| bdmurray | by writing apport hooks for example | 15:51 |
| nigelb | oh, apport hooks would be a fun session | 15:52 |
| nigelb | when I wrot them, I kept looking at your sessions bdmurray :) | 15:52 |
| charlie-tca | That would be good, but I know nothing about that... | 15:52 |
| bcurtiswx | nigelb, you have your own session to run then ;) | 15:53 |
| nigelb | oh no | 15:54 |
| nigelb | how did I fall into that trap | 15:54 |
| nigelb | :-P | 15:54 |
| nigelb | bdmurray: can you help me if I'm willing to take an apport session? :) | 15:54 |
| bdmurray | nigelb: sure when is it? | 15:55 |
| nigelb | 1600 4th March? | 15:55 |
| bdmurray | okay that's a fair bit of time | 15:57 |
| nigelb | \o/ | 15:58 |
| nigelb | session added | 15:58 |
| Gartral | hello, I see a fix was posted for Gobi2k 3g radios in Kernel, (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554099?comments=all) but I can't use that Kernel due to a TPM-locked Kernel architecture.. and I was hoping the needed driver was available as a Module.. my other problem is I can't compile the module myself as until i fix 3g in ubuntu, my computer won't have internet. | 16:23 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 73) (dups: 4) (heat: 424)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:23 |
| Gartral | yes ubot4 that's the package and bug. | 16:24 |
| gondoi | I'm a little confused on the SRU instructions... | 16:41 |
| gondoi | I want to submit an SRU for this bug | 16:41 |
| gondoi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/munin/+bug/699967 | 16:41 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 699967 in munin (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Empty list of plugins/services with hostname containing uppercase letters (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 16:41 |
| gondoi | but I'm not sure whether to submit it in that bug or start a new one | 16:41 |
| gondoi | can anyone help me? | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | a little patience is appreciated. We are all volunteers, not sitting looking at the monitor waiting for questions. | 16:42 |
| gondoi | same here | 16:42 |
| gondoi | just throwing it out there and waiting for a reply | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | and expecting an answer within a minute? | 16:43 |
| Gartral | hello, I see a fix was posted for Gobi2k 3g radios in Kernel, (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554099?comments=all) but I can't use that Kernel due to a TPM-locked Kernel architecture.. and I was hoping the needed driver was available as a Module.. my other problem is I can't compile the module myself as until i fix 3g in ubuntu, my computer won't have internet. | 16:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 73) (dups: 4) (heat: 424)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | gondoi: Use the same bug, nominate for series "maverick" | 16:44 |
| gondoi | dude, it wasn't intended as a bump... just asking for assistance | 16:44 |
| gondoi | thank you charlie-tca | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 16:44 |
| Gartral | (if waiting 20 minutes between posts aint long enough, sorry, trying too compensate for joins which i turned off... | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | Gartral: I would suggest asking in #ubuntu-kernel, also, for that issue. They might have a workaround you can use. | 16:45 |
| shankhs | hi | 16:46 |
| Gartral | charlie-tca: maybe, maybe not, keep in mind im forced too use a kernel that I don't even have headers for... so compiling my own module isn't an option | 16:47 |
| * micahg wonders if we're having a meeting | 17:04 | |
| micahg | hggdh: charlie-tca: yofel: bdmurray ^^^ | 17:04 |
| Gartral | ?/? | 17:05 |
| shankhs | Hi i am very much eager to participate in bug day (10 feb ) but I have never done any bug-fixing for ubuntu before . Also I have never saw the code of OpenOffice or LibreOffice. How do I get started with this? I have signed the ubuntu code of conduct and read the Triage guide. Thanks a lot for the help | 17:05 |
| * yofel totally forgot about it, thanks for the ping | 17:05 | |
| micahg | shankhs: can you stick around another hour, we're supposed to have a meeting now, but it might not happen | 17:06 |
| shankhs | micahg: sure! | 17:06 |
| * micahg doesn't see pedro | 17:07 | |
| bdmurray | micahg: pedro is on holiday | 17:09 |
| micahg | bdmurray: ah, good for him :) | 17:09 |
| micahg | bdmurray: well, should we have a meeting or defer 1 week? | 17:09 |
| bdmurray | micahg: looking at the agenda it needs some cleanup and no announcement was sent so I'd pefer to wait | 17:10 |
| bolster | Hey all, I'm new to the bugsquad (and haven't exactly contributed yet, but exams finished this week so I should be a productive human being tomorrow). Have read most / all of the knowledgebase so hopefully can hit the ground running as soon as I can block off some time for it :D | 17:10 |
| micahg | bdmurray: ok, makes sense | 17:11 |
| yofel | +1 | 17:11 |
| bdmurray | okay, I'll take care of the agena, email and channel topic | 17:14 |
| micahg | bdmurray: thanks, | 17:15 |
| micahg | shankhs: so, it's just a matter of installing LIbreOffice and seeing if you can reproduce the OpenOffice bugs, if so, add a bug task for LibreOffice | 17:16 |
| micahg | I think | 17:16 |
| bdmurray | right you don't need to know the code to help out triaging bug reports | 17:16 |
| micahg | bdmurray: are we adding tasks for LibreOffice or moving the bugs? (not everyone might know if something's SRU worthy or not) | 17:17 |
| shankhs | micahg bdmurray : thanks any more pointers | 17:18 |
| bdmurray | micahg: adding seems the easiest to me | 17:18 |
| micahg | bdmurray: ok, thanks | 17:19 |
| vish | bdmurray: hi.. when you get some time, could you have a look at Bug #659947 ? thanks! :) | 17:20 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 659947 in launchpad "Users, unfamiliar with bug-triage, often confuse 'Triaged' and 'Confirmed' status (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659947 | 17:20 |
| bdmurray | vish: what are you looking for with that bug? | 17:34 |
| vish | bdmurray: some solution to prevent redoing the confirmed -> triaged work.. | 17:35 |
| vish | ie, not revisiting the triaged bugs again.. | 17:36 |
| vish | bdmurray: it is a follow up bug, to the earlier one where i suggested locking down the permissions as to who changes those, but their feedabck was a better solution was to looking at reducing the number of statuses | 17:37 |
| vish | to merge triaged and confirmed | 17:38 |
| Gartral | hello, I see a fix was posted for Gobi2k 3g radios in Kernel, (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554099?comments=all) but I can't use that Kernel due to a TPM-locked Kernel architecture.. and I was hoping the needed driver was available as a Module.. my other problem is I can't compile the module myself as until i fix 3g in ubuntu, my computer won't have internet. | 17:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 73) (dups: 4) (heat: 424)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 17:38 |
| bdmurray | vish: okay | 17:38 |
| micahg | vish: I think that's a bad idea, confirmed means there's a real bug, but not enough information to work on it, triaged means there's enough information to work on it | 17:39 |
| vish | micahg: yea.. thats how i thought so too.. but sinzui and mpt suggestion seemed OK.. but i'll take whatever fixes the current situation ;) | 17:40 |
| micahg | Gartral: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-kernel about that | 17:42 |
| ddecator | assuming my calendar is correct, there is a bugsquad meeting starting in a few minutes, right? | 17:53 |
| micahg | ddecator: calendar is wrong :) | 17:55 |
| ddecator | micahg: what the, i swear i copied it from the fridge calendar.. | 17:56 |
| ddecator | micahg: ...from your calendar | 17:57 |
| micahg | ddecator: yeah, I saw that, idk why it was set for 18:00, meeting was 17:00 I thought, but in any case, no announcement and an old agenda postponed the meeting | 17:57 |
| ddecator | micahg: ah, gotcha. when is it now? | 17:57 |
| micahg | ddecator: TBA | 17:58 |
| ddecator | micahg: alright, thanks | 17:58 |
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| Rcart | hello, there are logs available for the talk that took place today? | 19:33 |
| ddecator | Rcart: the meeting? it's being rescheduled | 19:34 |
| Rcart | ddecator: Oh, great. 10 February right? | 19:36 |
| ddecator | Rcart: i don't think a new time has been determined yet | 19:36 |
| charlie-tca | It should change in the topic here when it is decided | 19:37 |
| Rcart | ddecator: Thanks, I was confusing it with the Hug Day date ^^ | 19:37 |
| hjd | Hi. I'm tagging some bugs 'upgrade-software-version' and wondered what (if anything) I should do with bugs tagged 'upgrade'. Should I replace the tag with usv, add it in addition or leave them alone? | 19:38 |
| Rcart | charlie-tca: I'll be waiting for the update then :). Thanks. | 19:39 |
| bdmurray | micahg: what did we decide about upgrade vs upgrade-software-version? I'd say keep the old one | 19:40 |
| micahg | bdmurray: hmm, I've been using the new one? either way is fine, there are only about 15 wtih the new tag | 19:41 |
| charlie-tca | seems like it would depend on the actual bug, if they used upgrade in place of upgrade-software-version or to report a bug that happened during an upgrade | 19:42 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: upgrade bugs are supposed to be specified by their releases (i.e. lucid2maverick) | 19:42 |
| charlie-tca | I know, but that doesn't mean the reporter did not add "upgrade". | 19:42 |
| bdmurray | micahg: if the bug is already tagged upgrade I'd say keep that tag | 19:42 |
| micahg | bdmurray: ok, I've just been adding, not changing | 19:43 |
| bdmurray | hjd: so add usv inaddition to upgrade | 19:43 |
| bdmurray | hjd: thanks for asking | 19:44 |
| hjd | ok. I've left them alone so far, just thought I'd check. | 19:45 |
| hjd | For some requests for newer versions, I've found similar bug reports in debian as well. However, the Ubuntu bug and Debian bugs mention different versions. Should I add a bugwatch to these or not? As a new release might fix one of the bugs, but not the other. (I can probably find an example) | 19:51 |
| hjd | for instance bug 451947 vs http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=599617. (Perhaps a bad example, as the difference i version numbers are pretty small) | 19:55 |
| ubot4 | Debian bug 599617 in php-codesniffer "php-codesniffer: New upstream version available" [Wishlist,Open] | 19:55 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 451947 in php-codesniffer (Ubuntu) "Version bump request (1.2.0) (affects: 2) (heat: 7)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451947 | 19:55 |
| bdmurray | hjd: I think making the ubuntu one less version specific and linking to the debian bug is a good idea | 20:05 |
| hjd | bdmurray: something like this (bug 451947)? | 20:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 451947 in php-codesniffer (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Version bump request (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451947 | 20:19 |
| bdmurray | hjd: yes - you could also confirm since you know ubuntu is behind | 20:20 |
| hjd | bdmurray: confirmed as well. Wasn't aware I should do taht. | 20:23 |
| hjd | *that | 20:23 |
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