[15:21] Howdy [15:32] * genii-around sips [15:38] hi genii-around [15:39] hiya BluesKaj [15:41] * BluesKaj contemplates going for a walk in -12c temps ...not real cold for this area but still have to pull on the longjohns :P [15:43] I like it when the snow is nice and crunchy at those temps [15:50] bonjour [15:51] sur ce canal vous vous exprimez en français ou en anglais ? sur ce canal vous vous exprimer en français ou en anglais ? //on the channel you speak French or English? [16:04] heh, no patience [16:05] It's possible they just read /topic. [16:09] I idly wonder if they went to #ubuntu-qc ;) [16:12] nope,not there [16:20] je mal dans francais [18:42] genii-around: I'm sure you know this already, but CRTC is asking for "feedback" on UBB from ISPs again: http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-77.htm [18:43] dscassel: The boss was saying he wanted another emergency meeting, maybe this is whats on our agenda. Though I hadn't heard about it til now [18:43] Thanks for the link [18:43] np [18:43] Good luck. :) [18:53] On the UBB question, it amazes me how many media commentators really don't understand the issues [18:53] It makes me wonder if they are equally clueless on other things, which I know less about myself [18:54] johanbr_: scary, isn't it? [18:55] yep :( [18:58] the "capitalist" types who think we're "America jr " here in Canada are agreeing with the pay-for-use approach and let the small ISPs fall by the wayside to Ogilopolies , are the problem ...Kevinb O'leary and Abdrew Coyne are spouting that philosophy all over the CBC [18:59] correction : Kevin O'leary and Andrew Coyne [19:03] I guess they think a markup of a few thousand percent is fair [19:07] my girlfriend gets really annoyed whenever that business show with Kevin O'Leary and Amanda Lang happens to come on... she refers to it as "Beauty and the beast" [19:08] There's some of that sentiment on the local LUG mailing list too, suprisingly. [19:09] I'd have some sympathy for that argument if Bell wasn't so heavily subsidized by the government since its inception. [19:13] even if it hadn't been, capitalism doesn't work so well when a few companies have a very long head start and competing with them would require enormous investments [19:13] especially with something that's well on its way to becoming an essential service, if it isn't already [19:32] johanbr_ , he's a "put on" as we used say , he's just a rich bozo who's there to create controversy to attract those who love to hate [19:33] yes, exactly... I hoped the CBC would be above that sort of thing [19:34] W don't have the population to run US style ISPs , subsidy is necessary in this country due to our small population. I this was the US I'd still be on dialup. [19:35] if this was [19:38] I was chatting with musician chat friend in New Mexico . a town of 8000 ppl with no cable tv or even a local ISP dialup service , so he uses satellite internet at 110$ / mos [19:40] yikes [19:41] but that must be pretty remote - I also have friends in a New Mexico town of about that size, and they have Comcast [19:43] johanbr_, well they're probly all on satellite , it's a retirement type town [19:44] ahh... [21:10] HI all