[15:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[15:32]  * genii-around sips
[15:38] <BluesKaj> hi genii-around
[15:39] <genii-around> hiya BluesKaj
[15:41]  * BluesKaj contemplates going for a walk in -12c temps ...not real cold for this area but still have to pull on the longjohns :P
[15:43] <genii-around> I like it when the snow is nice and crunchy at those temps
[15:50] <IMOTHEP> bonjour
[15:51] <IMOTHEP> sur ce canal vous vous exprimez en français ou en anglais ? sur ce canal vous vous exprimer en français ou en anglais ? //on the channel you speak French or English?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> heh, no patience
[16:05] <dscassel> It's possible they just read /topic.
[16:09] <genii-around> I idly wonder if they went to #ubuntu-qc ;)
[16:12] <BluesKaj> nope,not there
[16:20] <genii-around> je mal dans francais
[18:42] <dscassel> genii-around: I'm sure you know this already, but CRTC is asking for "feedback" on UBB from ISPs again: http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-77.htm
[18:43] <genii-around> dscassel: The boss was saying he wanted another emergency meeting, maybe this is whats on our agenda. Though I hadn't heard about it til now
[18:43] <genii-around> Thanks for the link
[18:43] <dscassel> np
[18:43] <dscassel> Good luck. :)
[18:53] <johanbr_> On the UBB question, it amazes me how many media commentators really don't understand the issues
[18:53] <johanbr_> It makes me wonder if they are equally clueless on other things, which I know less about myself
[18:54] <dscassel> johanbr_: scary, isn't it?
[18:55] <johanbr_> yep :(
[18:58] <BluesKaj> the "capitalist" types who think we're "America jr " here in Canada are agreeing with the pay-for-use approach and let the small ISPs fall by the wayside to Ogilopolies , are the problem ...Kevinb O'leary and Abdrew Coyne are spouting that philosophy all over the CBC
[18:59] <BluesKaj> correction : Kevin O'leary and Andrew Coyne
[19:03] <johanbr_> I guess they think a markup of a few thousand percent is fair
[19:07] <johanbr_> my girlfriend gets really annoyed whenever that business show with Kevin O'Leary and Amanda Lang happens to come on... she refers to it as "Beauty and the beast"
[19:08] <dscassel> There's some of that sentiment on the local LUG mailing list too, suprisingly.
[19:09] <dscassel> I'd have some sympathy for that argument if Bell wasn't so heavily subsidized by the government since its inception.
[19:13] <johanbr_> even if it hadn't been, capitalism doesn't work so well when a few companies have a very long head start and competing with them would require enormous investments
[19:13] <johanbr_> especially with something that's well on its way to becoming an essential service, if it isn't already
[19:32] <BluesKaj> johanbr_ , he's a "put on" as we used say , he's just a rich bozo who's there to create controversy to attract those who love to hate
[19:33] <johanbr_> yes, exactly... I hoped the CBC would be above that sort of thing
[19:34] <BluesKaj> W don't have the population to run US style ISPs , subsidy is necessary in this country due to our small population. I this was the US I'd still be on dialup.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> if this was
[19:38] <BluesKaj> I was chatting with musician chat friend in New Mexico . a town of 8000 ppl with no cable tv or even a local ISP dialup service , so he uses satellite internet at 110$ / mos
[19:40] <johanbr_> yikes
[19:41] <johanbr_> but that must be pretty remote - I also have friends in a New Mexico town of about that size, and they have Comcast
[19:43] <BluesKaj> johanbr_, well they're probly all on satellite , it's a retirement type town
[19:44] <johanbr_> ahh...
[21:10] <hakimsheriff> HI all